There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

lemmy.today

inb4_FoundTheVegan , to lemmyshitpost in Mildred
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

I say this as a trans woman. I will support, defend and love you no matter what sis.

But…

Fucking Mildred!?

NegativeInf ,

That’s my great grandma’s name. I think it’s pretty nice. Lol.

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

Oh sure, I bet your Great Grandma is a lovely person and I have nothing against her or her name.

But, it is very much a GREAT GRANDMA sort of name that is super out of date. I would be exactly as critical as a parent naming their child Mildred.

blackbrook ,

This generational. I’ve seen a number of names I thought of as grandma names come back into fashion. People who are young enough not to have experienced grandmas with those names pick them. Gertrude is a grandma name to me, BTW, not a great-grandma name. I actually had a grandma named Gertrude. Welcome to old. (Edit: my brain glitched from Mildred to Gertrude there. Looking forward to Alzheimers.)

Infynis ,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

My partner’s favorite name is Edith

VelvetStorm ,

Edith Cranwinkle, chair person of the art crawl! Maybe you’re not such a horrible, greasy, perverted, shabby, two - bit, filthy, disgusting pig, Bob!

ApathyTree ,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I low-key hope Agnes doesn’t come back… that’s my middle name… can’t stand it. I know it was my great grandmothers name, but I never met the woman… and it just feels… harsh. (Probs because I only heard it when I was in trouble, or when people were making fun of me)

Plus side, my mom got talked out of naming me “Elsbeth”, which is a very very defunct precursor to Elizabeth (which she didn’t like)… Since frozen with Elsa, that probably would have been ok, but it didn’t come out until I was in my checks release very late 20s, by which point the damage would have been done.

But hey I can’t complain too much on the naming lottery… my sister has a fully 100% boys name. Her middle name is a French version of Patrick.

VelvetStorm ,

I wish my middle name Shay (its the name i go by)would come back or be a thing for men. I’ve only ever met 2 other people in my age range with it, and both were women, and the one person outside of my age range was an old old old woman. I dislike my first name to such a large extent that I choose to go by Shay.

ApathyTree ,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I feel your pain. I wish I had a better first name or middle name to go by but I’m stuck between a shit place and a shitter place. And none of the nicknames I tried to get assigned actually worked out for me so… I either get nicknames I hate as much as the name itself or nothing. Super fun!

And if you want to change names, holy fuck, best of luck!

At least you have something you can relate to? I have never met anyone, of any gender, named Shay. I know that doesn’t necessarily help… but… it’s definitely not something I’d (as a solid middle age sort of person) consider a gendered name. Not more so than Aaron/Erin or any other neutral name…

VelvetStorm ,

When you meet new people just tell them whatever name you prefer even if it’s not your name. 2ish years ago, I started going by Shay by just telling people that. But there were people who have always known me by my other name, but I just told them I always hated that name, so call me Shay, and I gently corrected them every time they called me by my other name. The only people who still call me by me og name is my wife and my girlfriend(poly relationship not cheating), but they are working on it.

ApathyTree ,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There’s no name I actively want to go by, is the problem. I’ve tried with minor changes but nobody took them and they aren’t things I can just be like “this is me” because it… wouldn’t be actually? I’m envious of people who have the option to choose their own name, or how to apply it. Mine is so short there’s like 2 nickname options and I hate both. Passionately.

Best I’ve ever come up with would take a full name change (first middle last) to be worth doing. And that’s not worth doing.

I’m super glad it was effective for you, though, honestly that’s what matters. If it matters enough that you have a preference, it matters. My preference is just “anything else please” and that’s not a good option for most people, which… legit.

No judgement on your relationships, whatever works. I haven’t the energy to be weird about it :)

VelvetStorm ,

Well, im sorry to hear that. I get how you feel, and I hope it can change for you if that’s what you want. Ya polyamory is hard work and a lot of communication, but it can be super rewarding when it works.

ApathyTree ,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Im super glad it works for you, same with a self-directed name :)

No need for sorrow, I think I’m just too old to see myself the way I’d have liked several decades back :)

Either way, I hope you have a wonderful night friend! I hope to run into you again :)

the_crotch ,

Women named Agnes should be required by law to marry a man named Abner

lugal ,

Technically we know neither OOP’s nor Mildred’s age or generation

Zidane ,

Also my great grandmother’s name… Cousin?

5714 ,

Do you accept Morgana or Gertrude better?

MelastSB ,

Morgana rocks, like Morrigan

ramble81 ,

Darkstalkers ftw.

Viking_Hippie ,
PopcornPrincess ,

Morgana reminds me of LoL.

melvisntnormal ,

Morgana

Only if I can still decide when I go to sleep

Drivebyhaiku ,

I throw no shade on Mildred… As long as she’s one of those girls who like dress in 1950’s fashions and is way too into electroswing.

Then it’s only fitting.

captainlezbian ,

As a trans woman, fuck yeah Mildred. Take that awful name and make it your own. Sure you could’ve been a Megan or a Maria or even a McKenzie, but anyone could pull those off. You chose Mildred to flex on us plebs

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

In contrary to my own comment, I entirely agree with this take.

captainlezbian ,

So many of us have a ridiculous name. I kept mine to my middle name, but so many don’t, so I can just fully embrace someone deciding she’s talking great grandma’s name and damn the consequences

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

I actually sort of am the opposite! Growing up my deadname had an unusual spelling. It was literally immposible for someone to spell it correctly on their first attempt. So every form filled out on my behalf had to be corrected, everytime my name was called there would be a double checking moment who I am. It was just a huge giant pain in the ass and even as a kid I knew I would change it, even for non trans reasons. So my chosen name is much more basic, it’s actually one of the most popular names for my birth year.

I can’t tell ya what a sigh of relief I give off when a cashier asks my name and just spells it correctly without giving it thought. that I can say who I am and people just… know that it’s the person on the forum. So y’all are 10,000,000% valid and I love your damn the consequences vibes! But for me? I’m so happy with my basic simple unremarkable name.

captainlezbian ,

I get that, unfortunately my hard to spell name is my last name and I liked it too much to change it. I also didn’t realize that my common name has so many spellings, but by fuck do a lot of people insist on proving that. I also just like having a name that doesn’t instantly draw people’s attention, especially since my last name does.

My middle name on the other hand is fucking ridiculous, but it’s easy to spell so there’s that.

CreativeShotgun ,

I had some friends that saved me from…Edith ugh.

Then i did a juke and went with Eleanore lol

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

Haaaa! I actually think Eleanore is a very pretty name, it has an elegant quality to me? Good pick! ♥

pyre ,

cishet dude here so i dunno how much what I’m about to say matters but I’ve always liked the name Eleanor(e) because The Practice is my favorite procedural series and in that show Eleanor was a badass woman with strong convictions and morals.

she also was in one of the coolest scenes in tv imo, having a very heated argument entirely in sign language. here’s an unfortunately terrible recording of it: youtu.be/CwV9dHHQj-8

anyway i think Eleanore is a cool name, but more than that, once people associate it with you that’s what they will think about when they hear the name, the kind of person you are. not the other way around.

barsoap ,

Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before;
But the silence was unbroken, and the stillness gave no token,
And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, “Lenore?”
This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word, “Lenore!”—
Merely this and nothing more.

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

Lol, Edith and Mildred are literally my grandmothers’ names. Edith is a badass and just turned 99.

StrongHorseWeakNeigh , to lemmyshitpost in Benny 😍😍😍

Fake Ben Shapiro tweets are always hilarious

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Such a plausible thing for him to say I didn't even question it.

Gork ,

I want to believe

FatTony ,
@FatTony@lemmy.world avatar

It doesn’t even have to be plausible to be funny. Anything read in his goblin voice is funny.

“Let’s say for the sake of this argument in a theoretical hole, under the ground, there lived let’s say a hobbit…”

nilloc ,

Figured Ben would be going a different direction with the theoretical ground hole…

ArbiterXero ,

I literally came to the comments to find out if it was real or not.

Because quite frankly, I would probably believe either way .

db2 ,

I wouldn’t believe he’d have stopped there.

Ranvier ,

I ate the onion on this one for a second.

_tezz ,

Thanks for introducing me to this phrase haha

LodeMike OP ,

You got any more :)

brbposting , (edited )

Hey @LodeMike - loved the post.

After sharing my concerns and receiving affirmational feedback, I have made a very small edit to this image.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/0b64e0dc-3e66-4e0c-81b1-953bdb42b002.jpeg

Please consider using Lemmy’s awesome image hot swap feature to update the image. You may simply tap edit and paste the following link:


<span style="color:#323232;">https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/0b64e0dc-3e66-4e0c-81b1-953bdb42b002.jpeg
</span>

If there any mods reading through here, I might suggest a rule asking folks to use their best judgment to include a similar indicator in similar circumstances.

I’m not much of an “/s” guy, but I think these six letters (parody) can avoid misleading without ruining the fun :)

some_guy ,

We don’t need shit like that around here. Conservative / christofascist fucks say enough things that we can malign. Don’t make shit up unless it’s impossible for someone to misperceive as real.

StrongHorseWeakNeigh ,

Yeah but it’s funny.

Also, one could argue that by taking the piss out of some of these people, they’ll be taken less seriously overall. Which is a good thing.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Like the others, I didn’t think it was fake.

This is the guy who doesn’t think aroused women have wet vaginas after all.

jezebel.com/wet-pussy-stumps-ben-shapiro-18446786…

And his wife is a doctor too.

SuddenDownpour , to lemmyshitpost in Mildred

Enough talk about trans rights, it’s time to talk about trans wrongs /s

Frozengyro ,

But first, let’s discuss the right and wrong trans wrongs.

The right trans wrongs: coming from a place of deep respect for you as a friend, Mildred is not the right name for you

The wrong trans wrongs: how many American conservatives ready trans individuals

Amir ,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Can we talk about trans lefts instead?

Mac ,

I personally think we should discuss trans stayeds.

jnk , to programmer_humor in Absolute legend

Everything is open source for this guy after using this simple trick. Big techs HATE him!

DeathsEmbrace ,

Imagine getting a big enough resume to get jobs at any company just so you can do this one neat little trick.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

NGL I apply to places where I use the software. But it’s not one thing, it’s a dozen things I would fix.

I actually never successfully got the job. Probably because during the interview, I come off like a rambling psychopath pointing out extremely specific things.

CaptDust ,

Part of my previous company’s hiring process included having the candidate use our software, then asking what they thought of the experience and what improvements they thought would have the most impact. It wasn’t entirely useful because devs weren’t in control of prioritizing changes, but it was always interesting to see which pain points stuck out to the candidate.

flambonkscious ,

This strikes me as a really good idea… If they come up with batshit insane things, or obviously can’t click straight, it’s a good indicator.

CaptDust ,

It does give some insight into how people think. Some people are bothered with UI events and placement, others wanted to reduce the bandwidth it required, we had one girl who approached it focused on the accessibility of the software, and unfortunately for us support was abysmal. You also need thick skin to invite random joe off the street to tell you how your software sucks.

InfiniteWisdom ,
@InfiniteWisdom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Honestly, anybody with a gender studies degree can get into software developer nowadays no sweat, nowadays the fortune 500 standards are so low that they’ll just hire anyone on the spot without even questioning it. Honestly only started to take note of this the second Biden got into office, the quality of software overall has gone down. Overall, back to open source, I never truly got the open source movement in general, never been my thing. Proprietary software is inheitly more secure which is why most enterprise systems still use windows xp.

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I kept reading waiting for the punch line, didn’t see one. I think I’ve fallen victim to Poe’s law. I legitimately can’t tell if this is satire.

Socsa ,

G8 B8 M8

Sorse ,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

More like source available, since you can’t use the code in your stuff without the permission of the company 🤓

Molecular0079 , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

Lol, I dunno if it’s them expressing their feelings so much as them taking advantage of a business opportunity.

gregorum ,

Let’s meet in the middle and call it “jumping off a bandwagon” while introducing a wider audience to an alternative.

pjhenry1216 ,

Honestly, I could see it being both. HB isn't entirely cold-hearted corporatism.

chaogomu ,

They're charity as a corporate marketing tool.

Which makes them a lot of money (including a lot from me).

pjhenry1216 ,

They could easily make more money with the same image by limiting how much revenue goes to the charities. You can choose to not give them anything.

I'm not saying they aren't in it for the money. Most people need to make money to survive. But I think it's disingenuous to say they don't care at all. I think they do good and I feel many others agree.

A corporate marketing tool that costs such a large portion of your revenue is an inefficient tool. There must be some other value in it for them.

raptir ,

I have no idea what their motivation was, but the charity angle is a great way to differentiate themselves from Steam. I would guess they would not be so successful without it.

chameleon ,
@chameleon@kbin.social avatar

You haven't been able to give them nothing for over 2 years now. For this particular bundle, the minimum split for Humble is 30% and the default split is an insane 45% to Humble, 50% to the company and 5% to charity.

Humble is unfortunately still coursing by on their old reputation of being charity-friendly, but they changed to be one of the worst players around years ago. That goodwill from back then has really been depleted.

fraydabson ,

Yeah I almost always do minimum for humble and majority charity with a little left over for the provider.

lightnsfw ,

I’m fine with them even without the charity honestly. They sell DRM free books for cheap which is the only way I’m actually going to pay for digital books. We need more of that.

520 ,

They're IGN.

not_neno ,

“You can’t spell ignorant without IGN!”

FrankFrankson ,

Uh in 2017 Humble Bundle Inc. got bought out by IGN Entertainment which is owned by Ziff Davis …so yeah it’s part of a big shitty corporation.

BURN ,

Humble has coincidentally been a lot more shit since then too. I used to buy game bundles all the time, now it’s $20 to get maybe 2-3 games worth playing instead of $15 for 5-6 indie titles that were genuinely good.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

I stopped buying their game bundles when they started using Steam keys for everything instead of letting you download DRM-free.

I still sometimes buy their book and “software” bundles, though, but I always check to see how they’re going to be redeemed.

jayandp ,

Their Manga deals have been pretty amazing, when they have them every once in a blue moon.

Caligvla ,

I can’t be the only one that thinks IGN, a game reviewing website, owning a publisher and storefront seems utterly immoral, right?

FinalRemix ,

Wasn’t IGN the shithole that had the Kane & Lynch ads plastered everywhere, plus a totally 100% unbiased review?

can , (edited )

Wasn’t it IGN that hasn’t been relevant since at least 2005?

Norgur ,

Wouldn't be bad at all, since Dollar is the only language John Riticiello (the guy doesn't deserve me looking up how he's spelled... so that's what I go for...) speaks. Not fluently, but still.

anteaters ,

When a gold rush gets going don’t go digging for gold but sell shovels.

Jaysyn , to technology in Unity deleted these terms, don't let them get out
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Basically don't update existing games & stop using Unity completely & you're good.

SpaceNoodle ,

No, Unity is still saying they want a cut of old games if they’re ever newly installed.

rockSlayer ,

And this clause will give unity some fun lawsuits for those old versions

nothingcorporate OP ,

I’m really hoping some of the bigger Unity devs, like the people that made Rust or Among Us sue, as most of us don’t have enough money to even stand a chance in court against Unity’s lawyers…especially once they have all that nice runtime money to spend. 😒

GreenMario ,

Thinking small there, there are several Unity games published by big dick AAA corps.

Like Hearthstone, most of Kings catalog, the Doom ports were wrapped in Unity. Plus there’s a lot of Unity games on Gamepass and that’s Xbox 's bread and butter right now so Microsoft could just slap the shit out of em or just buy em out entirely (might be smart just for the King purchase itself).

Vorticity ,

My guess is that AAA developers will just negotiate individual contracts that are more favorable for the developers. They’re not going to sue when they can just work out a special deal.

nothingcorporate OP ,

I really don’t want you to be right, but I’m super convinced that you are.

lanolinoil ,
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

god I hate how right you are here

JDPoZ ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • GreenMario ,

    This is what I think. It kinda comes off as extortion.

    thanevim ,

    I've seen the "Microsoft should just buy Unity" argument a lot lately. And while I think it's probably a better management than current, I imagine Microsoft is hesitant having only just come out of a, what, 6 month long legal battle in US and EU courts regarding acquisition of ActiBliz? So a good idea, but one I can imagine might not happen...

    Tarquinn2049 ,

    Yeah, it kind of sucks that Microsoft being an even bigger unstoppable monopoly would have actually helped in these instances… at least in the short term… hopefully something less future terrible comes along to solve the short term problems instead at least.

    SCB ,

    Microsoft gaming is not even an industry leader, much less a monopoly.

    Tarquinn2049 ,

    Gaming isn’t the only thing they do though, cornering multiple markets as one company is the definition of a monopoly. The merger was thoroughly investigated as to whether it would be unfair competitively, that is a different way of saying they were worried it was gonna be a monopoly, and in that case they were even only concerned about the gaming market.

    I’m not just throwing around random terms, it is indeed approaching a monopoly. And could indeed be bad long term, even if it gets rid of kotick and helps clean up blizzard in the short term. And that’s a pretty big if.

    hamsterkill ,

    I honestly don’t think MS really wants to own Unity. Like, sure, there’s a small amount of synergy because some of their games use it, but owning Unity also means committing resources to support and improve it and competing with Unreal to an extent.

    If anyone would be interested in buying Unity I’d think it’d be a Chinese corp like Tencent or NetEase or else a publisher that works with a lot of indies like Devolver or maybe Embracer.

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    Well yesterday, Unity decided they were gonna get Sony and Nintendo and Microsoft to pay the fees for smaller studios (lmao wat).

    I don’t think Unity understands exactly how many top-tier lawyers those companies are going to bring to the table in the interest of legally curbstomping then.

    Seasoned_Greetings ,

    Maybe that’s the point. Unity caves immediately to the big lawyers and says “Sorry guys, we tried. Looks like all you little studios will have to pay up after all. Blame Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft”

    ultranaut ,

    It doesn’t seem like they are thinking that far ahead. Or if that was the plan it’s really not working out.

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    And then their customers sue the ever loving fuck out of Unity and win, because they’re not only looking at breach of contract, but also monopolistic and predatory business practices (they were basically forcing smaller studios to switch from a competitor mobile analytics platform to their in house platform). Either Unity’s exec suite didn’t consult the lawyers, like, at all… or their legal team should be disbarred. Unity is fucked unless they do a complete 180 and clean out the C-suite.

    MimicJar ,

    Does this mean that the “Report on install” feature is already in the old release? It’s a reasonable feature to already have, I assume Unity gives you a handful of statistics “for free” as part of using the engine.

    However there is a difference between “installs” the number and “installs” the billing number. A website might have 1,000 page views. So 1,000 users? Well we need unique page views. What makes a page view unique? What if someone visits your website but leaves after 2 seconds, do we count those?

    In addition to being a terrible decision I don’t think the company is prepared at all for this decision.

    SpaceNoodle ,

    No, they have some magical “proprietary method” for determining those, with additional hand-waving for not counting “illegitimate” installs. Translation: they pull these numbers out of their ass, fuck you.

    A pre-sale cut could be considered “reasonable” since there’s a paper trail with real numbers that basically everyone can agree on. Unity is just trying to muddy the waters.

    Raxiel ,

    My understanding is that one of the services Unity provides Devs is analytics telemetry, and they just have to hook into that to read some telemetry of their own.

    DessertStorms , to memes in Honestly
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah, no, fuck all cops. And please lets not pretend like shit isn't getting mighty fasc-y all over Europe too..

    https://www.enainstitute.org/en/publication/mark-neocleous-capitalism-was-created-by-the-police-power-interview-at-ena-institute/

    DarthFrodo ,

    So what’s the alternative to police? Just getting rid of them would just lead to militias taking their place which would be much worse.

    explodicle ,

    Here in America, the right to join an armed militia is enshrined in the constitution!

    BigWumbo ,

    Defunding them and diverting those resources into social services that have been shown to actually give back in meaningful ways to the communities and safety/effectively deescalate tense situations without committing atrocities while perpetuating systemic hate-based violence.

    There does need to be someone with a gun I can call if someone is literally breaking into my home intent on murdering my family. But outside of those extreme and fringe outlier circumstances, society would be much better served by well-funded social workers and emergency first responders who are trained to resolve conflicts while actually helping those in need of it without threat of eminent deadly violence.

    Obi ,
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Isn’t that basically how it is in the UK where most cops don’t have guns?

    yggstyle ,

    Reality is and always should have been cops do cop things. Locally. Traffic shit should be department of transportation. etc. etc.

    Make local cops walk local beats and only focus on the community safety and suddenly things get better. ‘Us vs Them’ is a pretty easy thing to spin when they only are a corrective force with a chip on their shoulder.

    Proper training, education, and being held accountable for your actions will filter out the bad blood quickly enough.

    Defund is frankly a word that was selected poorly. It implies punishment. It only amplifies the ‘Us vs Them’ narrative on both ‘sides.’

    ACAB? No. Problem with corruption and a system that spits out at best tight lipped accomplices and at worst zealots brandishing ‘might makes right’ ideals? Yep.

    Fix the system and the problem fixes itself.

    DessertStorms ,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    There does need to be someone with a gun I can call if someone is literally breaking into my home intent on murdering my family

    well-funded social workers and emergency first responders who are trained to resolve conflicts while actually helping those in need of it without threat of eminent deadly violence.

    If we do things properly, then no one should have a need to break in to your house (because everyone's material needs would be met), and if you've given someone reason to kill you, calling someone with a gun to kill them isn't going to solve anything. If they're mentally unwell, calling a person with a gun is even worse.

    The second option you gave is more than enough 99.99% of the time.

    Some degree of community defence might be imperative, but it should never be one person with one gun who is in charge of "enforcement", but everyone would be trained and everyone would have access, and in a time of real need (like an external and violent threat to the community) those ready and available can do what is needed, but again - killing someone isn't it 99.99% of the time.

    BigWumbo ,

    I do not disagree

    Urist ,
    @Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

    We have this many places in Europe. The police are not even allowed to wear guns in Norway (and frankly do not need them) unless there is some special intelligence or something making a reason for it. That does not absolve the need for state controlled monopoly on violence. It only means that is should be limited and wielded with the utmost care.

    Mubelotix ,
    @Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

    Not saying the concept of police is bad, but the situation here is that some cops have been such assholes that all the good cops quit. Now only the worse individuals remain, and they protect each other so they fear nothing

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
    @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

    Robert Peele's Nine Principles of Policing are a good start:

    1. To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
    2. To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfill their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
    3. To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
    4. To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
    5. To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
    6. To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
    7. To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
    8. To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
    9. To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.
    Tlaloc_Temporal ,

    That might describe a good cop, but it doesn’t describe the system that makes good cops, let alone how that system might come about. All this allows us to do is sigh at every horrendously violated point.

    DessertStorms , (edited )
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    Much worse for who? Who does the police actually benefit today? and who is it harming? do you care about those people? The police are not even legally required to protect you, and don't in practice, why do you think they do anything to benefit society? Why are you so desperate to maintain the boot on your neck?

    Thousands of people and organisations have answered your question in great depth over the years, all you have to do is be willing to set your obvious existing bias aside, and look.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_abolition_movement

    https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-manifesto-for-the-abolition-of-the-police

    https://abolitionistfutures.com/latest-news/9m1jx98mayqvorjm7ij8x0zv9g5f85

    https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/rose-city-copwatch-alternatives-to-police

    https://gal-dem.com/how-does-police-abolition-work/

    https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/may-day-collective-solidarity-defense-12-things-to-do-instead-of-calling-the-cops

    Mr_Blott ,

    Excellent sources there old chap, really shows your level of intelligence lol

    DarthFrodo ,

    Much worse for who?

    My point is: if police were completely abolished, conservatives and the far right would feel very unsafe and immediately form militias that enforce their values. That would be much worse for everyone who doesn’t share their values, of course.

    I get that in many countries, police is badly regulated and you might say that this wouldn’t actually change much, but I’d rather seek more accountability for police, compared to a complete abolishion, leaving a power vaccum that’ll be filled by right wing militias with zero accountability.

    Divesting seems good to me though, much of the police is certainly overfunded (due to law and order populism) and does useless shit (like the war on drugs), while education, social workers and programs against poverty are severely underfunded. Changing this would surely help a lot with crime reduction and other issues.

    Thanks for the links by the way, I will look more into them when I have more time to see if my concerns regarding abolishion are addressed.

    EchoesInMay ,
    @EchoesInMay@lemmy.world avatar

    Make everything legal. Crime only exists because there are laws to break.

    Venicon ,
    @Venicon@sopuli.xyz avatar

    ALL cops you say?

    I have many friends and family who have joined the Scottish Police and given years of their lives to serving their communities, risking their own lives and health. Should I say fuck them too?

    I joined the police for six months before deciding it wasn’t the career for me and got back into charity work. Are you saying Fuck Me now or just for the six months I was in? Did my fuckery expire?

    How can thousands, millions of people doing a job be reduced to such a binary sentiment.

    DessertStorms ,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    Yes, fuck them, and fuck you.

    You choose to knowingly join the organisation that was literally created and exists solely to serve the rich and oppress everyone else to do it.

    Cops are class traitors who can choose to leave their position at any time, the marginalised people they exist to abuse have no such luxury.

    Your feeling are irrelevant.

    ACAB

    Mr_Blott ,

    You’re a fucking idiot. I live in a small town up in the mountains in Europe, and some absolute fucking dimwits like you have been going round spraying ACAB on stuff

    Our two policemen and two policewomen are the genuinely nicest folk you’ll ever meet and do loads and loads of good for the community. When they’re not busy they volunteer to deliver free meals to the elderly and help out at the charity shop

    Tarring everyone with the same brush is something simpletons do, which is probably why they didn’t accept you into the police 😂

    dingus ,

    I don’t understand why nuance is so complicated for people.

    Mr_Blott ,

    Stupidity, blinkered world-view, inbreeding… I could go on…

    Xavienth ,

    B-but my uncle is a cop and he’s nice to me! /j

    TranscendentalEmpire ,

    ALL cops you say?

    While acab is probably too generalized a term to apply to ALL police forces in the world… Interpreting acab in absolutes is also kinda silly and needlessly pedantic.

    If I were to say all Nazi are bastards… Would we be making the same arguments? Surely there were Nazi that were forced to join the party, surely there were Nazi giving years of their lives to serving their communities, risking their lives and health.

    The point of ACAB is to highlight the inherent and institutional failures of policing actions native to the vast majority of western democracies. Where police are primarily utilized to protect property and institutional power, rather than protecting the most disadvantaged communities in our society.

    Venicon ,
    @Venicon@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Trouble with that theory is that I think regular people won’t hear something like ‘All Cops Are Bastards’ and immediately think ‘well they probably don’t mean all cops’. It literally says it there.

    Maybe because I’m Scottish living in Scotland I’m separate from the US side of the movement/argument but knowing so many good people in the service who have probably done more for their communities than some people spray painting on walls it just sounds so blatant. If it was a different slogan then I doubt people would have an issue with it but not everyone hears all the details about what it apparently means online or whatnot, they just see the words.

    No desire to be pedantic at all, just explaining why a lot of folk won’t get behind the message.

    azertyfun ,

    ACAISAETOSOOSBTNOTPI or All Cops Are Inherently Supporting And Enforcing The Opressive Systems Of Our Society By The Nature Of The Policing Institution doesn’t quite have the same ring to it though.

    I mean I get it, “ACAB” sounds a bit like an over-reaction and I wouldn’t use that term to talk about Belgian cops, but within leftist circles like lemmy I think it’s an acceptable shorthand since 90+ percent of people already understand The Discourse™ on some level.

    Venicon ,
    @Venicon@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Haha that acronym gave me a chuckle.

    Yeah I get it, I just don’t like when things are reduced to all x’s are y’s, think that kind of polarised thinking isn’t helpful when the world has a whole lot of grey in it. Equally if someone is happy to post a comment like that online I don’t think there is anything bad about chatting it through like reasonable humans.

    stevedidWHAT ,
    @stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

    Social meanings of words out weigh dictionary definitions, that’s just how being social works

    The_Lopen ,

    I mean how about instead of hyperbolizing, we actually find a good acronym that does less to push people away from our world-view? If the problem is the system, find an acronym about the system. It doesn’t have to be perfect, but if we don’t genuinely think every single cop is bad, we should stop saying it, no?

    kaffiene ,

    I’m very left wing and I hate the ACAB slogan.

    stevedidWHAT ,
    @stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve never heard a progressive, liberal or democrat call themselves “left wing” before

    Thanks for expanding my world view!

    kaffiene ,

    I’m not American so labels like democrat and liberal mean nothing to me. Consequently I have no idea what you’re trying to insinuate

    stevedidWHAT ,
    @stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

    It was a legitimate thanks for being you

    kaffiene ,

    I’m sorry - I’m a bit dense sometimes when it comes to interpreting comments on the net.

    Follow up question: is left wing a loaded term in US politics? It doesn’t seem to me that US conservatives mind being called right wing?

    stevedidWHAT ,
    @stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

    No need to apologize haha

    And I don’t think so, it’s just another word for progressive or any other number of synonymous words which equate to “we want to push society out of stale behaviors and encourage constant reevaluation and adjustment.

    Some people just can’t handle that sort of thing for one reason or another

    brbposting ,

    PEB

    Policing Enables Bastards

    Meanwhile, “ACAB” is obviously wrong and disrespect to anyone who signs up to get fired for being a good cop.

    Don’t need to say literally wrong things that have to be re-explained, even if it is catchy. Be The Change!

    AACABAL! (All ACAB’rs Are Lazy!) :)

    kaffiene ,

    See, that expresses that it’s a systemic issue and that consequently some cops are bastards without damning everyone who is part of a large diverse group. It’s even a simpler acronym. Brilliant

    brbposting ,

    Must be the third time I’ve shared it in the past year or two… first compliment! :)

    kaffiene ,

    As a New Zealander, I feel the same way about ACAB as you. I definitely have issues with the Police and I definitely think they’re a racist institution (NZ stats back that up) but ACAB is a shitty slogan IMO

    AtariDump ,

    All Carsalesmen Are Bastards.

    I say defund the dealerships!

    bl_r ,

    How can thousands, millions of people doing a job be reduced to such a binary statement

    The reason why most people (including myself) say ACAB is because of the system of policing, not the merits of any given police officer. Systems are inflexible and adverse to change. Individual good cops can exist, but once again, the system itself is the problem. A good cop can never fix the system, nor could a hundred, or a thousand. A million could, at best, give the illusion of a good system. People often say a rotten apple spoils the bunch, and I think that looking at policing from the perspective of individual rotten cops, or rotten cops “spoiling the bunch” is problematic when the system itself is rotten. And for participating in the system, yes, all cops are bastards.

    Venicon ,
    @Venicon@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Okay I agree with the idea of a rotten system as think that generally many legal or government institutions are rotten and self serving for the rich.

    But the flaw in the argument from my perspective is that if all the decent people don’t go into the police, the ones with integrity, a moral compass who genuinely try to help people and do the right thing, then that leaves the bad apples.

    So for going into a system and hoping to change it for the better, help/protect their community from criminals and the bad apples and make a real difference in lives, by that logic those people striving for better are still bastards and that just doesn’t feel right to me.

    Again no hate here just a genuine conversation

    june ,

    The counter is that the system can’t be changed due to its inherent flaws and foundations in racism and elitism. The system needs to be replaced wholesale, which as big of a proposal as that is is more realistic than changing the existing system.

    TheDarksteel94 ,

    I’m sorry, foundations in racism? Elitism I can see, sure. Like, doing the bidding of the upper class and stuff. And a few higher ups in the police force are really arrogant. But racism? I’ve genuinely never seen or heard of any cops being racist where I live. If anything, lots of cops here are kids of immigrants.

    The actual system isn’t the problem, it almost never is. If anything what’s missing in some countries are checks and balances to keep people reigned in while they’re in positions of power.

    june ,

    You’re missing the forest for the trees here. And, it’s worth specifying that I’m talking the US here, I should have been clear about that before.

    I’m not talking about cops, I’m talking about the system itself. Every institution in America has deep roots in racist ideology. Every single one. The constitution was written in a way that allowed for slavery. Police forces established and enforced red lining, something that is having knock on effects even today. If the policing system weren’t inherently racist, we wouldn’t have the disproportionate use of deadly force against BIPOC folks. Elitism itself in America was first for the wealthy that owned slaves, and much of our policing culture still has echoes of the force used to keep slaves in line.

    There are plenty of cops that are good people, I’ve known some. But they’re still bastards because they uphold and perpetuate the system that currently exists. I always think of the line in Wreck it Ralph when thinking about this, ‘just because you’re a bad guy doesn’t mean you’re a bad guy. That’s the ‘good’ cops. They might be good people but they’re still the bad guys.

    LuckyCharmsNSoyMilk ,
    Pelicanen ,

    Yes, in the US. The commenter above was talking about more than just one country.

    David_Eight ,
    David_Eight ,
    David_Eight ,
    bl_r ,

    if all the decent people don’t go into the police, the ones with integrity… that leaves the bad apples

    and

    [good cops that] help/protect their people from … bad apples

    I think this is flawed. The policing system is built in such a way that it protects the bad apples at all costs. From police unions making it difficult to get rid of the bad cops, to the laws, legal precedent, and cultural norms which make it impossible to prosecute them. In the US, police are allowed to lie to people, but they are often trusted in court, regardless if they regularly lie. The police often form a Blue wall of silence in order to protect other cops when literally perjuring themselves in the process. Qualified immunity makes it impossible for people to seek damages from individual cops when they violate their rights. While good cops might break the blue wall of silence (and they might get punished for it) and they don’t violate other’s rights and therefore are not protected in court by qualified immunity, the participation of these good cops does nothing to address the system in the first place.

    You and I both agree that there are many legal or governmental institutions that are rotten, but police fundamentally protect them and enforce their will. It is police who break strikes. It is the police that arrest protestors and activists. It is the police that hold the power to call legal protests illegal by declaring them riots. Fundamentally, the police protect the system that lets them be corrupt, and make it difficult to change it outside the impossible task of making change within electoral systems.

    … protect their community from criminals …

    Police are often an ineffective force at catching criminals. One of the best examples of this is sexual assault and rape. 70% of survivors do not involve the police. All the survivors I know did not call the police. They have good reason not to, 24% of them are arrested after doing so! If a person belongs to a group that is often oppressed by the police, such as gay and trans people, or a group that is criminalized, such as sex workers, there is nowhere for these people to turn in order to get justice.

    In the event these people do call the police, odds are there will be no arrests. Only 5% of cases will result in arrest. Fewer will result in convictions and incarceration. (WATR Zine (this is a download link))

    On a more ironic note, Policing increases crime. After NYC cops went on strike and reduced proactive policing, major crime reports fell.

    So for [cops] going into a system and hoping to change it for the better … and make a real difference in lives …

    While I wholeheartedly support trying to make a change for the better, and protecting and building community, I think police are a terrible way to do so. I think working outside the system is a much better way to materially help people’s lives. Organizations like Food Not Bombs helps people with food insecurity eat. Instead of joining the police which might make you destroy homeless encampments and make them worse off, you could instead volunteer at soup kitchens and homeless shelters. Joining an antifascist organization can help protect communities from fascists, but joining the police might make you side with the fascists and protect people with demonstrably harmful rhetoric, or worse, oppressive and murderous, fascist, intent

    by that logic [cops] striving for better are still bastards and that just doesn’t feel right to me.

    I still think it is fair to call them bastards. While it sucks to call someone with good intentions a bastard, ACAB points out that police as a whole is a flawed institution, and participating in it does not change that, it reinforces the legitimacy of it, and brings erroneous hope to people that it can be fixed from within, when in reality it needs drastic change if not total abolition.

    Again no hate here just a genuine conversation

    I genuinely appreciate this, ngl. I live in a very conservative area and when speaking about this, I’m used to discussion quickly devolving into meaningless argument

    daltotron ,

    Even though I agree with all of this, it seems like this speaks more to an american perspective than to any other given country, and all your citations are from an american perspective as well. Though I think you could maybe make an argument on how the police are conventionally leveraged to protect private property, and private property is bad, and how if you were to take away the “protecting private property” element of their job description, you’d basically be abolishing the police. You could make that argument, along more universal lines, but that’s kind of contingent on people agreeing that both private property is bad, and that police are exclusively the protectors of private property, and nothing else.

    In any case, I wouldn’t really be willing to make so certain of a statement on the police departments of other countries. I’ve never really heard anyone say anything bad about, say, finnish police, for example. British cops, they wear funny hats, they go “oy”, and shit, I’ve not really heard anything good about them, but finnish cops? Never heard bad about them. I also think a lot of what makes the police in america bastards, is because the prison system here is so fucked up and so punitive, and so particularly bad, compared to a lot of other countries.

    I also kind of like, as an aside point. What do we do about park rangers? They’re technically cops, but you wouldn’t really hear anyone thinking that we shouldn’t have them, or that they should be actively abolished. I say this to mean, you know, as with the first paragraph, what do we really mean by “police”? You’ve given a pretty good description of the fact that the police suck, but not really why, or how they could be fixed.

    AtariDump , (edited )

    All Carsalesmen Are Bastards!

    Defund the dealerships!!!

    Edit: I see the bootlicking salesmen are out on Lemmy downvoting.

    wafflez ,

    true fuck legal scamming

    kaffiene ,

    I think it’s disingenuous to have a slogan that targets individuals then claim you’re just commenting on the system when questioned. If it’s about the system say the system sucks.

    LoreleiSankTheShip ,

    Think about it this way. As a cop, your job isn’t to help the community or to keep people safe or any of that happy wholesome crap. Your job is to enforce the law. That’s it. It doesn’t matter if the law is unfair or unethical, it’s your job to enforce it. Sure, maybe some people become cops without fully understanding this, but on some level, they must know.

    The laws are made by politicians, and I’m certain that no matter your political beliefs, you can agree that most of them are crooked. Ergo, everyone who signs up to enforce their laws is a bastard. If somebody truly wishes to serve the community and save people, they become firefighters instead. It’s almost the same skillset and if you’re willing to become a cop, you shouldn’t be afraid of the danger either.

    kaffiene ,

    By that logic, all people in armed forces are bastards. Given that a lot of poor people end up in the forces because it’s their only option, I’m not prepared to say all soldiers are bastards. Similar logic applies to Police officers. Also I’m a New Zealander and our Police force is nowhere as corrupt as in the US

    bl_r ,

    I elaborated a lot more on this in a different comment.

    The main thing is it is about the participation in the system that makes all cops bastards. In my opinion, the good thing about this slogan is it starts discussions and debates about the system itself and how even “good cops” contribute to it when cops do something bad.

    kaffiene ,

    I don’t agree but I appreciate the point you’re making.

    Relo ,

    Do you want to be heard or do you want to be understood?

    Shouting ACAB might give you attention but it won’t help in changing anyone’s mind. The opposite is true.

    QuaternionsRock , (edited )

    I’m not gonna pick a side here as I don’t wanna fan the flames, but I will say that I have a good deal of bones to pick with police oversight systems (or lack thereof).

    However, this got me thinking: would you say the same thing about restaurant servers? By becoming a server in the U.S., are you not perpetuating a tipping paradigm that has systematically denied the working class billions of dollars of wages that un-tipped employees are entitled to? It’s fairly clear that a “good server” cannot fix the system by participating in it, and given that a server makes the same amount of money as a cop—if not more—it isn’t really fair to say that one group “needs” the job while the other does not.

    It’s a curious predicament.

    bl_r ,

    No, I don’t think that participation in tipping culture is a good comparison to participating in the policing system.

    The only accurate comparisons are: The system is harmful, a good server cannot fix it by participating in it, and servers materially benefit from it.

    First, as shitty as it is to not participate in as a customer, tipping culture is, for the most part, optional. When a server indirectly asks me to tip as a customer, I could easily hit the custom tip button and enter 0.00$. That would be shitty on my part as I would be reducing the income of waitstaff who rely on tips. If I tip, I now have a few dollars less, and the waitstaff have a more livable wage. If a police officer asks me to get on the ground with my hands on the back of my head, I don’t have much of a choice. If I do, the police officer will likely arrest me, and this compliance is only coming at the threat of what happens if I don’t. If I refuse, then the police officer could shoot me (if he deems me a sufficient threat), taze me, pepper spray me, or otherwise physically force me to the ground and possibly injure me. Further, I could get in significant legal trouble for not following the orders, most often in the form of resisting arrest, or possibly getting charged with assaulting a police officer if I act in self defense, regardless if I act within the law. This problem here lies in the fact that there is hierarchic authority that a police officer has which waitstaff lack.

    Second, there is something that servers can do to make the system better outside of participating in the system laid out by their boss. While not easy, and with some risks attached, waitstaff can unionize and demand better pay, such that no tips are needed. Obviously, it isn’t super likely that the union would remove tips because waitstaff like their tips, but this act will fix one part of the system, being the part that they are not paid living wages before tips. While unlikely, widespread unionization could cause people to want to tip less knowing that waitstaff are able to subsist on wages alone and therefore impact tipping culture.

    Cops don’t have this ability. I’d argue that police unions are not the same as a typical labor union. Like a normal union, they provide the workers protection from being fired, and have a positive impact on wages. Unlike a police union, police officers are called to break up the strikes of labor unions. If the police union went on strike, the only theoretical way for their employer, the state, to break it up would be using another militaristic arm of the state, be it the state reserve militia, if it exists in that state, or the military in other cases. Unlike calling the police, there is significant political capital being expended when doing this.

    Another point to consider with that is which cops are fired, what leads to that happening, the impact of it, and how they are protected. Often, it’s “bad cops” rather than good cops, though both is possible. The union often steps in to protect even the worst cops from being fired. The impact of a bad cop is significantly more harmful than a bad server. A bad cop is violent, often kills or maims people, and terrorizes communities. A bad server might spit in my food, let it get cold/warm, or not deliver it at all. Short of physically hitting me (which a union will not protect them for), the most harmful thing they could do is steal my credit card details. Bad cops are fully and legally able to do much worse through civil asset forfeiture.

    Lastly, and most importantly, the context of the system is vastly different. I’d argue the most harmful system that is held up by a server working a job isn’t tipping culture, but wage labor (and capitalism) itself. Just like police, anyone participating in this system cannot fix it by participating in it. Unlike police, those participating in wage labor lack the power to directly reinforce it through violent action because they lack the state’s monopoly on violence that the police lovingly wield. Any harm done by a person reinforcing this system can be offset by various acts, such as creating and participating in labor unions, creating co-ops, protesting and agitating for socialism, etc.

    Police, on the other hand, not only indirectly reinforce this system by being payed wages, but they also directly reinforce this system by making it difficult to combat wage labor by breaking up strikes, protecting private property, terrorizing and killing protesters, killing organizers, etc.

    Worse yet, police also directly support the hierarchic structure of the state, an unjust hierarchy, and the unjust hierarchies of white supremacy, patriarchy, ableism and cisheteronormativity. Police have always been the arm of the state that has had their literal boot on the neck of black people, suffocating their communities. When the police are not the ones to harm these communities, they often don’t do that much to prevent it from happening, or prevent it from happening in the future. Let’s not forget that about 50% of those killed by cops have some sort of disability, or their historic violence against LGBTQ people, and how LGBTQ rights were only taken by clashing with the cops at Stonewall and demanding rights. While police aren’t the sole people upholding these hierarchies, they are one of the most arms of the state doing it.

    Mango ,

    Hey, all I do for a living is generate value for a group of people who harm others! I’m just feeding them and housing them! Is that so bad?

    Baku ,

    Yeah nah. This is such an American way to look at the world

    DessertStorms ,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    I'm not American, and the article linked is by a European about Europe...
    Swing and a fucking miss, clown.. lmfao 🤣

    Broodjefissa ,

    Pff instantly getting angry. Typical cop hater. Grow some brains lmao

    fosforus ,

    You should purge all the white cells from your body. Not only are they extremely militant cops, they’re white.

    brbposting , to lemmyshitpost in Benny 😍😍😍

    I feel sheepish saying it but I wish even these obvious fakes were marked as parody in tiny little font somewhere

    ZombiFrancis ,

    Yeah without it at a certain point they start giving cover for the heinous shit he actually says and advocates for.

    A_Random_Idiot ,

    Which is exactly what i’ve argued a hundred times.

    I genuinely would not be surprised if half of these are being made by trolls for the explicit purpose of muddying the waters and confusing things to give cover/plausible deniability to what he actually says, since screenshotted tweets have apparently become a medium of information transmission.

    A_Random_Idiot ,

    You shouldnt feel sheepish about it.

    I’ve already seen people using these fake tweets that everything thinks is soooo funny being use to defend and handwave the shit he actually says.

    but why use brains and care about common sense when some stupid fucklechuckles get a giggle.

    brbposting ,
    A_Random_Idiot ,

    I think its a good start, but also super easy for an asshole to just edit out the (parody) label.

    brbposting ,

    Very true. Mentioned this elsewhere someone suggestion a large watermark:

    I went a different route, though I avoided placing the callout somewhere it may be accidentally cropped.

    I hope the, uh, non-disinformation can have a simple start here, and if we’re big enough some day that kind of thing is a problem maybe we re-adjust. Of course, nothing stopping someone from recreating something to their less-scrupulous heart’s delight. (in the case someone is re-creating something to intentionally mislead, not re-creating based on their expectations of people’s knowledge and BS meters)

    Ahh just can’t wait for the proliferation of high-quality generated videos…

    ILikeBoobies ,

    Watermark stretching the whole image

    Otherwise someone will just remove it

    brbposting ,

    I went a different route, though I avoided placing the callout somewhere it may be accidentally cropped.

    I hope the, uh, non-disinformation can have a simple start here, and if we’re big enough some day that kind of thing is a problem maybe we re-adjust. Of course, nothing stopping someone from recreating something to their less-scrupulous heart’s delight. (in the case someone is re-creating something to intentionally mislead, not re-creating based on their expectations of people’s knowledge and BS meters)

    Ahh just can’t wait for the proliferation of high-quality generated videos…

    Noel_Skum ,

    I’d like to apologise now for when, in the future, I place a “parody” sticker on a genuine social media post. I know, there’s something wrong with me… but I thought I’d give you a heads-up about it as you seem pretty reasonable.

    brbposting ,

    LOL lmk what your psych says about that

    When you try it, make sure it’s in a domain where there is some chance of starting an international conflict

    Noel_Skum ,

    I was thinking of some (gentle) lazy flaming or trolling but your mention of instigating international conflict has inspired me to better myself and aim higher in life. Thank you.

    brbposting ,

    You’re welcome, Nuclear Noel

    peteypete420 , to lemmyshitpost in The Art of the Deal

    6 days with 1 john is probably a lot less work than 30 1 hour sessions with varying johns. Also getting a discount when buying in bulk is pretty common with most goods. Not sure if it’s so with sex work in real life tho.

    frickineh , (edited )

    It’s definitely way less work. If you get hired for an hour, you’re pretty much expected to be fully engaged in, if not sex, then at least being entertaining in some way. With the type of sex work she did, she was never getting paid for time spent sleeping or eating (and definitely not hanging out and shopping), unless that was someone’s kink, I guess. I had a series of sugar daddies in my early 20s, and don’t let anyone tell you that’s not sex work, and I definitely made less per hour than a more traditional prostitute, but I also put in a lot less energy. Plus, it came with a lot more perks.

    Apytele ,

    Also I don’t think people realize how much time a (skilled / knowledgeable) sex worker spends vetting their clients. They’re one of the easiest and therefore most common demographics targeted by people who literally just wanna rape-torture-murder someone for varying to absolutely no reason. As a result a lot of sex workers have shared blacklists, some ask for references, some do background checks, some don’t work alone, etc. Only having to do that once or even not at all once the john is well-known is a huge time-and-effort saver, even if you ignore the fact that it’s just literally safer to take a chance on one man murdering you instead of five.

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    The only institution that performs more criminal and social background checks than the ATF and intelligence apparatus is America’s network of communicating sex workers.

    Apytele ,

    I’m genuinely not sure if this is in jest or not. The way I know this is common is that it’s a common thread across human interest pieces about sex work. I grew up with those rare fundie parents that were big on education so anything they got weird about I just read about and they were more or less fine with that, so I just started reading about sex and have since gone on numerous multimonth ADHD hyperfixation learning binges about various aspects including both anatomy and physiology and the psychological and cultural ones. A good couple of them have either centered on or referenced sex work in some way. I don’t think I’m brave enough personally but it’s definitely fascinating.

    Jarix ,

    Ya know how therea books of short stories by authors or a collection of authors?

    You should totally do that with the numerous multimonth ADHD hperfixation learning binges you have gone on.

    But just write like just write out from memory as if it was a short story.

    Could collect from others like yourself and create anthologies of remembered knowledge. Like reviving or recreating an oral history like many people did in times of old

    Apytele ,

    I’ve been making obsidian vaults/notebooks actually! Earlier this year I made one about tarot cartomancy and what I guess you could call Christian Esotericism (connecting myself to many of the cultural traditions while eschewing most of the traditional bodies of authority) and right now I’m working on a basic/informal intro to DBT for people struggling to access talk therapies due to poverty and/or rural living.

    Jarix ,

    Neat! Share if you release these pretty please!

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    Sex workers do sometimes offer reduced effective rates per hour for extended time.

    Usually you’re not gonna be allowed to offer for those unless you’ve spent time with that worker already and they’ve decided you can at least be trusted enough to not go psycho with enough time on hand.

    By the time you’re talking about overnight service, either they know ya and they like ya enough to spend an evening with you, or they’re advertising the package openly because they’re pretty confident that they can bring anyone who tries something funny down harder than a meteor, that kind of work makes folks stronk, and they ain’t afraid to use that if you’re fuckin’ around.

    dutchkimble ,

    Worked out well for the shiela

    nothingcorporate OP , to news in Deaths and Injuries of the Israel/Palestine Conflict prior to the Oct 2023 war

    As The Intercept pointed out this week, this is Israel’s 9/11 in that it is a horrific event they didn’t see coming, but when you stop to look at the powder keg they created, they absolutely should have.

    ericisshort ,

    And just like 9/11, they were warned of the attack weeks in advance but were still woefully unprepared to protect their citizens.

    Alteon ,

    I’m worried that they DID know, and are using this as an excuse to further their agenda against Palestinians.

    ericisshort ,

    That’s sadly a possibility.

    migo ,

    With the Netanyahu government, that’s the more plausible explanation.

    Flyswat ,

    Well, it worked in the US /s

    Cocodapuf ,

    Well, it really did work in the US. This is literally what happened at Pearl Harbor.

    Roosevelt knew the attack was coming, very much so, our intelligence was good. But he needed the attack to happen, so he let it happen.

    At the time, Europe was at war and our allies desperately needed help, but the US had been dragging it’s heels about getting involved for years. Roosevelt wanted to enter the war and support our allies, but congress just didn’t want to make the official declaration of war. But after the attack on Pearl harbor, that declaration came in short order, just as Roosevelt knew it would.

    Infraggable , (edited )

    This is untrue. This is a false conspiracy theory that people keep repeating that has no facts to back it up. This one bugs me becausey grandfather was in the merchant Marines and was stationed there when this happened. People parroting that untrue fact drove him bonkers.

    jarfil , (edited )

    This is untrue

    Which part?

    Did the people stationed there get warned? Did merchant Marines have access to top brass intelligence reports? Did Roosevelt have a different motivation? Did Pearl Harbor not happen…?

    Infraggable ,

    The whole “Rosevelt knew claim”. It is one of those false clames that gets repeated so often.

    jarfil , (edited )

    The problem with claiming the opposite, are things like Patton’s pretty much spot on prediction of the attack, the fact that intelligence at the time was routed through Washington, with capability to break the Japanese codes, or the still not declassified documents relating some pre-attack intercepts.

    It all suggests that Roosevelt, and/or his staff, had all the pieces to figure out what was going to happen. Whether they didn’t, or did and decided to do nothing, and the lack of proof either way… is what makes the conspiracy theory keep being a possible conspiracy theory. 🤷

    aesthelete , (edited )

    is what makes the conspiracy theory keep being a possible conspiracy theory. 🤷

    Conspiracy theories continuing to be conspiracy theories requires no causation, because spurious theorizing in general sits outside of logic and reason.

    We still have lots of assholes who think the earth being round is a conspiracy pushed on us by big science or whatever, or that “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” (presumably they don’t understand how kindling works), or that 5g causes COVID, and even bizarrely that COVID is both a Chinese conspiracy at the same time as it is a hoax and/or harmless.

    Conspiratorial thinking isn’t driven by reason, logic, or facts. It’s tolerated most by people who have no issues with and/or sense of cognitive dissonance. It’s more similar to a distributed form of cultism. It’s one of creativity’s awful cousins.

    jarfil ,

    You’re conflating “conspiratorial thinking” with “conspiracy theories”.

    Conspiracies are a real thing, they happen all the time (and most are punishable by law); conspiratorial thinking is people coming up with, and believing, conspiracies no matter how impossible they are, which is way different from actual conspiracies.

    “Conspiracy theories” just happens to be a term that can be used in both cases, it doesn’t mean all of them are impossible.

    aesthelete ,

    Nah, I’m not.

    Conspiratorial thinking is what gives you the bunkum conspiracy theories, and the evidence or lack thereof has nothing to do with their production.

    As far as I can tell from my reading they come more from an environment of distrust often combined with disordered thinking.

    Sure there can be actual conspiracies, but they also usually come with accompanying evidence and more than hunches, hindsight, or temporally related events.

    jarfil ,

    Sure there can be actual conspiracies, but they also usually come with accompanying evidence and more than hunches, hindsight, or temporally related events.

    Evidence is what turns a “conspiracy theory” into either a “proven conspiracy” or a “debunked conspiracy”. Without the former, there would be none of the latter… not sure how is that hard to understand.

    aesthelete , (edited )

    Still waiting for the actual, solid evidence behind your conjecture.

    See the thing is that logical thinking follows the evidence rather than jumping to conclusions.

    Lojcs ,

    What was the prior situation with the reservists? Did they backtrack on their no show threats before the war broke or was the war what forced them to show up

    hydro033 ,

    It's not that easy. There is constant information coming in all the time and intelligent agents need to parse signal from noise. It's not every single bit of intelligence regarding an attack comes into fruition. In fact, it's quite the opposite. This is an extremely difficult signal detection problem, one with lives at stake.

    Eezyville ,
    @Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Also they did have radar signatures of the attack incoming but radar tech was new and they didn’t trust it.

    ericisshort ,

    Please tell me you’re being facetious, because radar has been in use for more than 80 years.

    nocturne213 ,

    That would make the radar tech very old and likely you could not trust their work either.

    ericisshort ,

    Well by that logic, we should be really suspicious of tech like the wheel or the plow.

    nrezcm ,

    Which is why I have never used a plow before and never plan to.

    ericisshort ,

    Good. And I hope you don’t eat any food that contains ingredients that come from fields, or else you’re buying into big plow whether you like it or not.

    WhiteHawk ,

    Big brain time

    Eezyville ,
    @Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

    80 years ago is the 1940’s. But the report was ignored due to lack of training. The way I heard, it was due to radar being relatively new, untested, and thus untrusted.

    ericisshort ,

    I’m confused. When did this conversation divert to Pearl Harbor?

    bitwaba ,

    I think they responded to the wrong person. There’s a pearl harbor tangent happening above this.

    SaiPenguin ,

    I believe that radar should be read as radar system. That is to say it was a new radar system that had not been fully learned yet not that radar as a concept was new.

    Cocodapuf ,

    What are you talking about?

    blue_zephyr ,

    And just like 9/11, their response is sowing death to countless civilians.

    blewit ,

    How? By unilaterally leaving Gaza in 2007? To blocking the boarders to avoid rockets from being smuggled in that they were using to shoot at Israel towns for 15 years?

    I know I’m taking to a shill or a bot or just someone who isn’t actually aware of what’s going on, but you’re grossly misinformed.

    Palestinians have had all the opportunity to choose peace. They’ve chosen war. Now they will suffer the consequences.

    Please, do me a favor and just block me. I don’t need your replies and don’t need to see your incompetent drivel.

    Shiggles ,

    I’m sure they put it up to a democratic vote and only went through with it after getting the unanimous agreement of every single Palestinian in Gaza.

    blewit ,

    pbs.org/…/what-is-hamas-what-to-know-about-its-or…

    Educate yourself. The answer is in the article. Spoiler: Yes, the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas as their leadership.

    Shiggles ,

    Did you even read my comment?

    lolcatnip ,

    You are speaking of Palestinians as a monolith. If you apply the same logic to Israelis, Palestinians are perfectly justified in attacking them. Hamas and Likud are both terrorist organizations. Targeting civilians is a war crime no matter who does it or why they say it’s justified.

    blewit ,

    What’s you’re saying doesn’t even make sense.

    Communities elect leaders. Gaza elected Hamas.

    As for targeting civilians, Hamas for over 15 years has been indiscriminately firing rockets on civilian towns. Been there. Seen it first hand. Have you?

    Israel has attacked Gaza, no doubt. But it warns in advance. Calls every resident. “Knocks” on the roof prior. Gives time for the civilians to leave. You know what Hamas does - tells them to stay. Makes them human shields.

    It’s a choice the Palestinians in Gaza make. They should chose differently.

    lolcatnip ,

    So you think it’s also ok to hold Israel as whole responsible for the actions of monsters like Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu? Should we hold all Russians responsible for Putin, and blame all Americans for the Iraq war?

    Kachilde ,

    By not forcing Palestinians out of their homes to house Americans: aljazeera.com/…/if-i-dont-steal-your-home-someone…

    By not voting in a government that openly supports the eradication of a people that they claim are not a culture: pbs.org/…/no-such-thing-as-palestinian-people-top…

    By not commuting further war crimes by doling our collective punishment on civilians: amnesty.org/…/israel-opt-israel-must-lift-illegal…

    This video was posted in May 2021, and is still relevant: youtu.be/INCXqWzH5vk?si=xxvSkiBcRtkZwZVa

    War crimes are being committed on both sides, but one side is in a far better political, economic, and defensive position. Treaties and councils have been written, but if the stronger party decides they want to break those agreements, and suffers no repercussions from doing so (so far as having essentially full support from the US government at one point), what can the smaller group do? Roll over and let their people be extinguished by a callous and racist government?

    I do not condone attacks from either side, but saying that Palestine is “suffering the consequences”, while ignoring the actions that led to this attack (which could be seen as Israel suffering their own consequences) is short sighted and cruel.

    blewit ,

    I don’t argue there is a complicated history. I don’t deny there are folks in the Israeli government that have small minded opinions. But to say there is no Arab representation in the Israeli government is false. To suggest that bigot views of one minister represents the position of the nation, or dictates it is misunderstanding the parliamentary government in Israel.

    What I’m saying is that the Palestinians in Gaza have had an amazing opportunity to choose their own destiny. Israel pulled out without preconditions. Left the agricultural industry in place. There wasn’t a blockade until the people of Gaza chose Hamas, and Hamas chose to follow its charter of hate rather than build up its own population. The only reason the people of Gaza are in the locked down situation they’ve been in is simply because Hamas choose aggression and Israel needs to secure its people. Now Israel failed this past week and Hamas got an opportunity to execute its mission. And it has to the horror of even you, I’m sure.

    This is the bed the people of Gaza made. Now they need to sleep in it. Sorry. That sucks. But you need to be held accountable for your decisions.

    Malfeasant ,

    Just look at is the body count. Israel kills or maims 10 or more Palestinians for every one Israeli casualty. That sounds less like defense and more like overwhelming offense.

    abbotsbury ,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    I know I’m taking to a shill or a bot or just someone who isn’t actually aware of what’s going on, but you’re grossly misinformed.

    Is this your default reaction to seeing something you disagree with?

    blewit ,

    No. It’s my hope that real people are smarter than this.

    wahming ,

    Amen, we can all agree on that point.

    OccamsTeapot ,

    deleted_by_moderator

  • Loading...
  • Something_Complex ,

    The bigger problem is that they probably knew. They where informed by Egypt intelligence…

    If that is true, then they might have let it happen as an excuse to take Gaza in retribution

    gummybootpiloot ,

    Let’s not spread conspiracy theories without good sources

    lennybird ,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    US Congressional members with security clearances corroborated this, did they not?

    Gerbler ,

    They didn’t corroborate that Israel let this happen as justification to level Gaza. That’s the conspiracy theory the user above is urging not to spread.

    lennybird ,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    Fair point. Though to me it’s of little relevance; for either they were grossly incompetent or they let it happen intentionally.

    Given the historical evidence behind the Shock Doctrine, I’m convinced that is what’s playing out here.

    tym ,

    So, Israel’s 9/11 then? It wasn’t a coincidence that NORAD was on training exercises that day.

    jarfil , (edited )
    AmosBurton , to lemmyshitpost in Get to work, crackheads

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • MacNCheezus OP ,
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    Or maybe some people just need more coffee 🤷🏻‍♂️

    yuriy ,

    People get too embarrassed about publicly being wrong. I went in on someone recently in a comment thread, typed up like a whole paragraph tearing down what I thought was an indefensible point.

    Homeboy replied like “hey you misread my comment”

    Rather than edit everything away to hide my shame, I just replied with “you’re right, I’m drunk on a cruise!” and it was honestly a highlight of the voyage. Maybe some randys can get the same enjoyment out of rereading the interaction, and that’s way more than anyone would get out of “edit: whoops”

    Zink ,

    The amount of times I’ve seen the “oops, you’re right, sorry/thanks!” equivalent on Lemmy makes me think this place really has attracted some good people.

    Disclaimer: yes we have trolls, shit posts, hot takes, etc.

    wewbull ,

    Enjoying messing around doesn’t mean people aren’t good. Shit posts in particular show a level of awareness, otherwise it’s just a post.

    Zink ,

    True. In fact, I just came here from a shitpost community!

    That was the wrong term for sure. I quickly added that part at the end after I envisioned the first reply being “if you don’t think the Reddit trolls came over then I don’t know where you’re looking” or similar.

    MacNCheezus OP ,
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    If I was embarrassed I would have deleted the post.

    Zagorath ,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    it was honestly a highlight of the voyage

    Bruh if getting politely corrected on social media is the highlight of your holiday, you gotta find a better type of holiday.

    yuriy ,

    replies like this are why it was a highlight 💖

    Zagorath ,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    I mean it sincerely. It sounds like the cruise itself wasn’t super enjoyable to you. Which is totally fine. Maybe you’d enjoy going on a guided tour, or self-guiding yourself around another country or region. Or maybe you’d get maximal enjoyment out of just spending a week at the beach. Different people have different sorts of ideal holidays, but if a mediocre social media interaction was the highlight of your cruise, I’d be inclined to think cruises might not be yours.

    nomous ,

    Lemmy will learn about hyperbole one day.

    prex ,

    One day a million years from now.

    yuriy ,

    I had a great time, but thank you very much for all the unsolicited advice. The suggestions that I had a bad time are kinda weird though, maybe reapproach the way you talk to strangers!

    TseseJuer ,

    go easy he’s on the spectrum

    jeremyparker ,

    That’s honestly a really great approach. I’m going to do that next time I fuck up at work. Boss: “The production server is down and the database is hosed!”

    Me: Omg I’m so sorry! I’m drunk on a cruise!

    FilthyShrooms ,

    Literally 1984 2024

    SaltySalamander , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
    @SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

    Know what would have made this post actually useful? A link to the fucking sale.

    can ,
    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    Reminder to max out the donation to either the publisher or the charity, and leave as little for Humble Bundle as possible.

    MisterHavoc ,

    Why. Not fighting you. Genuinely wanna know lol

    Waldemar_Firehammer ,

    The general sentiment is that the publisher did all the work, and the charity needs the money the most. Humble Bundle is a fantastic platform, but they are a middle man than takes a slice for bundling the products and presenting them to you. That has value, but the other two options deserve a majority of the pie.

    can , (edited )

    They used to let you donate nothing to Humble but now a portion is mandatory.

    MisterHavoc ,

    Ok I see what you mean from reading other comments. Thanks for the tip

    m750 ,

    This is like common practice here… talk about something. But don’t actually link or post it

    Metal_Zealot , to technology in Unity deleted these terms, don't let them get out
    @Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

    “y’know, maybe Reddit and Twitter are on to something”
    -Unity CEO, probably

    kubica ,
    @kubica@kbin.social avatar

    Maybe a tiktok challenge for rich people?

    daniskarma ,

    Company bankruptcy speedrun any% no hacks

    Metal_Zealot ,
    @Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

    Egomaniac Category

    SinningStromgald ,

    “Your right Gary! The best way to endear our current users to us AND make more money is to take a big, heaping, smelly shit right into their mouths. While they are coping with that amazing gift we’ll just sneak off with their wallets. BAM! Money motherfucker!”

    HughJanus ,

    Reddit, Twitter, Google, Twitch, Meta, you name it, they’re all having to find new ways to make money now that the decade-long bullrun of low interest rates and endless VC money is over.

    denemdenem ,

    Looks like 2023 will be remembered as the year of big size enshittification. So many companies going to shit. Reddit with restricting API access, Twitter with…everything really, Google with its DRM and now Unity…great year so far, right?

    KomfortablesKissen , to lemmyshitpost in The Art of the Deal

    Well, she’s advertised as a pretty woman, not a smart one.

    And now, with a little less jest: It’s a stable income over a week, with a guy she evidently likes to at least look at. No need for advertising in that time. Meals are paid, as is time off. Also, the 21$ assume that she is paid 24 hours a day (3000$ ÷ 24 ÷ 6 = 20,83333…$) so she gets paid for sleeping, eating, essentially her own time. She also gets the opportunity to scout new, well off clients.

    I would take that deal.

    Vash63 ,

    Even if you assume 8hr days that’s $63/hr, sizable drop from 100

    Mongostein ,

    Unpaid travel time between 8 different clients would make an 8 hour day much more than 8 hours

    NABDad ,

    You’re also assuming she gets 8 hours of work a day at her normal rate. It’s not like she’s salaried.

    Jarix ,

    We need to consider how many hours in a day she would normally get paid the $100/hour rate. Or said differently, how many hours does normally work in a 6 day period

    She would need to work 30 billed hours in 6 days to break even on her normal rate

    NucleusAdumbens ,

    It’s also 8 hrs/day she doesn’t have random sweaty fat guys dumping loads in her. Anyone who doesn’t take that deal is either Ayn Rand level deranged or has beaten life and found their true passion

    KomfortablesKissen ,

    You can only compare that if the $100/hr are certain. Having no clients means having $0/hr.

    Also to compare the two she has to have an 8hr day. I don’t have many experiences in the field, but that sounds not sustainable.

    Peppycito ,

    But how many sex did she provide in that pay period? They didn’t spend the whole week humping in bed. $/sex is quite above her normal rate.

    Dkarma ,

    3k pays your rent in San Fran with cash left over in that time period…ur damn right she’s hanging out with a rich dude and getting spoiled for a week and her rent paid. Mf out here acting like they’re breaking down door dash hourly.

    LordGimp ,

    Lmfao not even close. We’ll actually kinda close but still depressingly short. Doable with a roommate. She doesn’t seem like the roomie type

    trxxruraxvr ,

    That film was released in 1990, rents were lower back then

    habanhero ,

    So… I guess she is a smart woman after all?

    OTOH I hope OP is at least pretty.

    Jarix ,

    If you calculated it as 8 hours a day of work it would work out to $62.5/hour

    stebo02 ,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    i mean it’s just a discount like when you’re buying things in bulk, it makes sense

    yardy_sardley , to technology in Unity deleted these terms, don't let them get out

    Lmao when you’re trying to turn your company into a bloodsucking vampire but you forgot that long ago, you told your lawyer to chain the coffin in case this very thing happened.

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    Fuck Spez… oh wait…

    nothingcorporate OP ,

    Seriously, tech enshittiffication is feeling all too familiar.

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    Facebook (a long time ago), Twitter, Reddit, Google (they even removed the don’t be evil modo), now Unity. Apple being Apple… Arduino going closed source, Raspberry Pi becoming for profit. Samsung, at least never ever even tried to look nice.

    UrPartnerInCrime ,

    Seems we’re in a time where the hopeful are hopeless so the greedy take charge

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s a time where the kings are pulling as hard as they can on their rope until the day it breaks and their heads start flying. The people can be stepped on but only for so long.

    UrPartnerInCrime ,

    Let’s hope it’s not too late when we revolt

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    It will be too late.

    tev ,
    @tev@pawb.social avatar

    what happened with raspberry pi?

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    I mis expressed myself. I meant the price gouge of that last few years.

    Touching_Grass ,

    I wish we could get names of the teams that decided this was a good idea. I’d love to hear their side

    chaorace ,
    @chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    “Hey bro, let’s go check out those sirens over there. I swear, bro… just plug your ears with wax and tie me to the bow. Bro, it’ll be so epic.”

    Sirens arrive

    “Bro, why the fuck did you tie me down?? Smash this goddamn boat against the rocks!”

    UrPartnerInCrime ,

    Perfect analogy, just wanted to say I took this as air sirens at first at it did not make sense lol

    chaorace ,
    @chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Quick shoutout to my prehistorical homies for passing down only the choicest and most salient of allegories. We meme on the shoulders of giants.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • lifeLocal
  • goranko
  • All magazines