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MacNCheezus OP ,
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I’ve seen that movie… Keanu Reeves was in it.

MacNCheezus OP ,
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He’s paying her for 24 hours a day, silly

MacNCheezus OP ,
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I never said it was a bad deal. As long as both parties are satisfied with their end of the bargain, it’s about as good as it gets.

MacNCheezus ,
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The fundraiser has now received $5,214 out of the $3,000 requested, likely thanks to the exposure from the article (it was sitting at $1,920 at publishing time).

Schadenfreude, meet Streisand Effect.

MacNCheezus ,
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Charity != welfare, but I don’t a liberal to know the difference.

MacNCheezus ,
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Can confirm. My dad had a 386DX-40 when I got my hands on a copy of Doom, and it was a fucking slideshow at best.

MacNCheezus ,
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Surely this has nothing to do with calling people murderers and rapists…

MacNCheezus ,
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Cool, that oughta pay for three months’ worth of food and rent in NYC

MacNCheezus OP ,
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That’s not how cameras work. It could also simply be normal-size camera very far away.

MacNCheezus ,
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Might want to re-read the Parable of the Talents sometime.

MacNCheezus ,
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I think the moral of that story is that you should at least make a bare minimum effort in order to justify your existence. The Parable of the Wedding feast has a very similar lean: there, a guy gets thrown out of the wedding (after having been invited for free because the original guests wouldn’t come) because he wouldn’t even dress up for it.

The point is, there ARE examples of Jesus cutting people off because they’re not worth his continued investment in them.

MacNCheezus ,
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Use your god-given talents to feed yourself you moocher" and then gave all the fish and bread to the rich?

That’s literally what the Parable of the Talents is about. Matthew 25:14-30 if you are having trouble finding it.

MacNCheezus ,
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but your point sounds like “the God of YOUR religion better not be telling the God of MY religion what to do.”

MacNCheezus ,
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Supply Side Jesus isn’t MY concept, in fact, it was Al Franken (yes, the senator) who came up with it.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_T…

beliefnet.com/…/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.a…

Now Franken of course is a Jew, so it’s easy to see why he might have a bone to pick with Christianity.

MacNCheezus ,
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That’s certainly a take.

I mean, I hope I’m not saying anything too controversial here, but I think it’s pretty well understood that one of the major theological differences between Christians and Jews is how they feel about Jesus.

MacNCheezus ,
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Right, which implies that the God of your religion is the state, because that’s who you want to give supreme authority to.

MacNCheezus ,
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Godwin’s Law strikes again

MacNCheezus ,
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Okay, but that’s exactly what’s happening in the OP’s picture, isn’t it?

I mean, without any context we are left to assume what “lack of results” means but if all he did was eat and made no effort to spread the gospel, then he’s basically the wicked servant in that parable, no?

MacNCheezus ,
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It’s a caricature Al Franken (who went on to become a Democrat senator) came up with for his book Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.

You can see some of the original comics here: beliefnet.com/…/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.a…

MacNCheezus ,
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Okay but it still roughly fits the situation in the OP, doesn’t it? He got thrown out because he wasn’t producing the expected result (i.e. being a proper wedding guest).

MacNCheezus ,
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Okay, then perhaps the guy in the OPs meme wasn’t chosen either

MacNCheezus ,
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All guests were given the garment for free.

Where does it say that?

MacNCheezus ,
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I appreciate your honesty.

MacNCheezus ,
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How will disputes be settled then?

MacNCheezus ,
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The meme is attempting to caricature Conservative’s idea of Jesus by alleging that the biblical Jesus would never put profit over people. But as the parables I mentioned show, that is in fact inaccurate and thus promotes a liberal caricature of Jesus who feeds people endlessly without ever asking for anything in return.

MacNCheezus ,
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Thanks for your response, but I don’t think I was promoting prosperity gospel? I understand that this parable is a favorite of theirs, but as you correct pointed out, there’s more to Jesus than that, and the point of the parable is by no means to rag on poor people, but on people who make poor decisions.

My understanding is that if someone has little talent but still makes the most of it, that person is still more welcome in the Kingdom of Heaven than someone who has a lot but makes little use of it. In other words, if it was the servant who received the most money who ended up burying it and making no profit, it would have been him who would be cast out instead. See also the Parable of the Wedding Feast, where everyone receives exactly the same (an invitation to the king’s wedding), but one person shows up without the proper clothes on.

MacNCheezus ,
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What types of poor decisions?

Poor decisions with regard to the use of their natural (i.e. God-given) talents. Nobody is ever going to make perfect decisions in all areas of their lives, and that’s not what Jesus requires, either. After all, the whole point of people having different talents is for them to work to together so they can complement each other’s abilities.

From the top level comment of the comment thread I read it as finance as that’s the thing related to food in the original post.

My point was merely to show that the biblical Jesus does in fact stop investing in people because he’s not seeing any results from them. It’s not really my fault if you’re reading in things about shareholder value or whatever, is it?

Supply Side Jesus on the other hand tells us that it’s not worth investing our time and resources into people who are poor, and that instead the rich will lead us to have an efficient church.

Yes, but remember that Supply Side Jesus is a caricature, and it’s created by exaggerating certain aspects of Jesus and diminishing others. But so is socialist Jesus, who only heals and feeds people for free and never asks for anything in return.

That is fundamentally backwards to Christianity, as it is the poor, the hurt and the suffering who need it the most.

I agree, and there are plenty of exhortations on that in the Gospel where Jesus reminds people to use their riches to take care of the poor among them. But he does not let the poor off the hook either, like in the story you mentioned earlier with the poor woman giving what little she has being more righteous than the rich man who donates very little. Meanwhile, proponents of socialist Jesus seem to think they should only ever receive blessings and not be asked to give anything back. They are like the guy in the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, who had his debt forgiven by his master and then beat up his fellow man for owing him a fraction of that.

The long and short of it is that in order for the whole Jesus thing to work, you cannot just sit around all day and wait to be fed. You do at least have to make an effort to contribute something, however little it might me, otherwise you’re wasting your talents.

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