I still remember how annoyed I was when reddit disabled that. It was a useful data point, especially in hobby communities or other places where it can be difficult for newbies to judge the quality of advice/answers they’re receiving so I was thrilled to see it here on Lemmy. Going by upvotes alone is not always showing you an accurate picture of a community’s reaction to a comment.
It’s why I’m still furious about YouTube removing the dislike count. That single decision has probably led to lots more people getting scammed–and YouTube not getting my premium dollars I would’ve otherwise gave.
Also that up and down votes are not tallied on user profiles. One of the issues with reddit is that if your point of view is unpopular, you cant discuss it on subs that require X amount of karma. Eventually you will be downvoted into being unable to reply. Here, conversation is more open and accounts dont carry a scarlet letter.
I feel the opposite. Still all but one opinion gets drowned out. It’s just that now the opinion that survives is the one that screams the loudest rather than the mainstream one
This also seems to have the effect of people getting less salty at being down voted, on reddit I noticed the trend of people verbally expressing salt at even a single down vote editing their whole comment to go “and to the brainlet sheeple soyjack who down voted me I’d like you to know yada yada”
Here I notice less people throwing a verbal tantrum over the idea not everyone likes their opinion. Whenever I get the occasional down vote barrage at a spicy opinion I think “ah well can’t win em all, guess maybe my opinion might be a little shit” not amend my post with “HOW FUCKING DARE YOU YOU FUCKING SUBHUMAN TROGLODYTES”
And the ability to turn off scores entirely! I run it that way most of the time. A post can have thousands of up/down votes but I can’t tell and it keeps it from infuencing how I’ll vote.
It was a feature I wanted to experiment with on reddit but couldn’t
Critical thinking. Not enough people stop and think openly about a given problem, situation, or interaction. If everyone took just a moment or two to take into consideration someone else’s perspective, circumstances, or goals, the world would be a lot less divisive.
Empathy is about understanding the other person’s feelings or experience, usually by being able to share in those things, or experience them vicariously. Empathy can even be used negatively. I believe Donald Trump has at least some empathy. He knows damn fucking well what his stupid words and actions are doing to some people.
I’m talking about objectively taking into consideration the other person’s views, beliefs, and/or desired outcomes and adjusting actions or words based on that.
For example, I don’t have to have empathy for someone who is non-binary to be respectful of their situation. I can’t really know or understand their feelings, because I’m a heterosexual male. I can’t possibly share in their experiences of being confused about gender identity and being ostracised for it. I have no reference point for those feelings.
But I can certainly be objective about their situation and remember that their gender identity and desired pronouns have literally no impact on me. So, rather than be a divisive prick about it and insisting on referring to them in binary gender terms, I can respect those things about them and act accordingly.
Obligatory “Are you on want medications and if so how long … has your dosage changed, have you changed, is this a new treatment treatment?”
This comment isn’t meant to stigmatise the OP but just to rule out other circumstances. I have a couple of older relatives who have been in antidepressants and other mental health drugs and they’ve come to normalize witnessing weird things because now they just think it’s the drugs affecting their minds.
Also I seem to remember doing the same on my Deck a while back, possibly he also did it there but forgot about it since this is a do once and never again thing.
It’s funny because when you described your problem I also knew immediately what the issue was since I remember turning that setting on for my gaming PC back when steam play was new (been gaming on Linux exclusively since 2016).
But for the life of me I can not remember turning on that setting on my steam deck. I must have since it works with all games but I really can’t remember switching it on.
It probably should be at this point. The opposite made a ton of sense when Steam Play was new and most games didn’t work, but now the opposite is true (at least in my experience).
I think the reason it’s opt-in is so that people don’t feel like they’ve been ripped off/lied to when they buy a game thinking they are getting a native experience
Yeah, makes sense. However, that could be easily solved with a popup or something when you first launch a game that says, “This title has not been verified by Valve to run properly on your platform, do you want to continue? [ x ] Don’t show this again.”
Which is even funnier because a lot of the times the native builds run worse, if at all, and it is typically recommended to just use Proton. Native clients unfortunately mean jack shit if they aren't properly supported and maintained by the developers, which is why I'm not too fazed whenever people were warning that Proton will cause fewer native titles. Like, have you seen the Linux gaming market pre Proton? It was not pretty, not even with Wine, but especially with just native titles only. Can't tell me they would rather go back to that instead of the current situation.
No. But Apple has built an alternative, although devs need to do some work to get their games running. That said, Mac gaming is even less popular than Linux Gaming, so don’t expect a good catalogue.
Pano Scrobbler - a FOSS app for Last.fm, Libre.fm and Listenbrainz. (I recommend Obtanium to download it from GitHub.)
Murglar for downloading Music in full quality from Deezer.
Molly - a better Signal client. (You can use Obtanium to download it from GitHub, you can add their F-Droid repo or download it using Accressent, a new experimental app store that seeks to replace F-Droid.)
Gallery - a simple gallery app that looks good and respects your Material You theme.
Element X is a much better Matrix client than the standard Element app. (I recommend downloading it from GitHub using Obtanium.)
LinkSheet - a small app that restores the old Android URL link chooser. It has many great features like the ability to remove tracking parameters from URLs or using FastForward to annoying bypass URL shorteners.
UntrackMe - a tool that can redirect YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, etc. links to privacy-friendly alternative frontends like Invidious or Piped for YouTube, Nitter for Twitter and LibReddit or Teddit for Reddit
Most of the apps I mentioned are free and open source and many of them are available on F-Droid. They don’t collect or sell any of your data.
The last one is not an app, but an entire OS that can replace the spyware-infested ROM that’s preinstalled by your phones’ manufacturer. I’m talking about GrapheneOS. No ads, no tracking, no proprietary Google services. Just free and open source software with maximum privacy and security. It’s so great!
It’s in a very early stage of development, it currently only offers 11 apps. I really hope it succeeds though, it has better security than F-Droid so I would love to switch to it once it supports more apps.
I try to get most of my apps from F-Droid (through Droid-ify) or Accrescent, but if they are not available, I turn to Obtanium to either download an APK from a website or from GitHub. It also has the ability to update your apps from your custom sources.
You can already download YT videos in LibreTube and NewPipe, speaking about NewPipe, I would suggest using NewPipeSponsosblock for blocking in video sponsors from creators. Aves Libre is a better advanced Gallery alternative with EXIF editing.
Aimp is a good alternative to Retro.
Spotiflyer is an alternative Murglar.
Schildi Chat is a better alternative to Element X, its based on Element but is a lot faster and has a lot more options.
Ps: I’ve been seeing a lot of posts and comments by you in the communities that I follow, just want to tell you thx for contrubuting to them xD.
Thanks for participating in the discussion. I have to disagree on some of your point though.
You can already download YT videos in LibreTube and NewPipe, speaking about NewPipe, I would suggest using NewPipeSponsosblock for blocking in video sponsors from creators.
I have found the download features in both LibreTube and NewPipe to be pretty unreliable. Seal always works. NewPipe x SponsorBlock is great, I use LibreTube which also has SponsorBlock built in, I just included NewPipe in the list because LibreTube breaks sometimes. But yes, NewPipe x SponsorBlock is better than standard NewPipe. BraveNewPipe is even better.
Aves Libre is a better advanced Gallery alternative with EXIF editing
Aves is a good option, it’s also available on Accrescent. Personally though, I dislike the design of the app and prefer Gallery in combination with Image Toolbox for image editing.
Aimp is a good alternative to Retro.
It’s not open-source and thus not available on F-Droid.
Spotiflyer is an alternative Murglar.
In my experience Spotiflyer has been pretty unreliable. It either pulls low quality shit from YouTube or it tries to download from Spotify and fails. So far, Murglar has worked like a dream. Just like deemix on desktop btw. You can use Deezer Premium ARLs from this guide to log in and download genuine 320kbps MP3s or even FLACs. Never had any issues.
Schildi Chat is a better alternative to Element X, its based on Element but is a lot faster and has a lot more options.
I tried it out, personally, I didn’t really like it. Element has been pretty slow for me, but I never had these issues with Element X.
I have Android 13 and when I tap on a link it asks me what app to open, also you can set this within the settings app per app basis.
On many occasions, Android nowadays uses “Verified links” to figure out what app to open instead of prompting the user LinkSheet also provides other cool features that I already described in my previous comment:
It has many great features like the ability to remove tracking parameters from URLs or using FastForward to annoying bypass URL shorteners
I missed the bypassing URL shorteners, heck, that would have been so helpful to me back in the day when I was sailing the seas for some “obscure” content.
If you need Chromecast support, check out SkyTube. It’s very important that you download SkyTube Extra, not SkyTube FOSS because it doesn’t support casting. You can use Obtanium to automatically grab the latest APK from GitHub. It’s also available in the IzzyOnDroid repository on F-Droid.
The FastForward feature in LinkSheet should continue to work. If you need a solution for your browser, check out the Bypass All Shortlinks Userscript that you can install using Violentmonkey. There are also a couple of websites that can accomplish the same thing, bypass.city and bypass.vip. I got the information from fmhy.net/storage#skip-redirect
I’m a woman, and make no attempt to hide that fact in my posts. That said, I also don’t personally have much interest in talking about being a woman, so don’t sub to any of those places you linked.
Over on Reddit I just sort of let people assume I was male a lot of the time, since it wasn’t really relevant to what we were talking about. But from the start on Lemmy I’ve made sure to call out incorrect assumptions, downvote and give a talking to people stereotyping or being misogynistic, etc etc. And the more of us (of all genders) that make that same decision, the better things get.
I also mod !knitting which as you might expect is largely although by no means entirely women. Any questionable comments over there are dealt with swiftly, I am absolutely not having it.
I don’t necessarily see it as a “problem” that Lemmy is seemingly male-dominated (I say Lemmy because my Mastodon is very much female-and-NB-dominated). It’s more just a fact of early adopters tending to the techy interests that skew male. But if someone does see it as a problem and wants it to change, there are basically two things to do:
Make sure you’re helping make Lemmy a welcoming place for non-males
Invite your non-male friends
All that said, other women may disagree but I don’t particularly feel like a minority on here and never really think about it until coming across something gross (which is a LOT less often than on Reddit, thankfully). There may be few enough women that I recognise their names often when they post, but let’s be honest Lemmy is a small world and that goes for most regular posters in general.
(And it helps that I’m middle-aged so if any little boy thinks they can upset me with comments about my gender or appearance or whatever, lol, the self-confidence of age is a wonderful thing 😉)
Edit:Just wanted to add, if you’re not a man and you’re reading this thinking “wow she’s lucky, I’ve had such a bad experience here” then first, I’m sorry you’ve had that experience, people suck sometimes. But also, drop me a DM let’s see if we’ve got any interests in common and I can maybe signpost you to some more friendly communities and people. Between my two accounts I spend WAY too much time on Lemmy!
DID YOU KNOW? Knitting isn’t just about cosy socks and sweaters in winter, it’s also a summer-appropriate activity with cotton yarns, lace patterns, cute home accessories and suchlike.
This has been your knitting community fact of the day.
Make sure you’re helping make Lemmy a welcoming place for non-males
I’d phrase that as “make sure you’re helping make Lemmy a welcoming place for everybody”
Being active in a pretty friendly tech scene in the late 90s/early 00s I’ve seen things being ruined for quite a bunch of people who enjoyed being where nobody was judging them for who they were or wanted to be after a bunch of newly joined women decided to try force a bunch of “women only” policies.
Just don’t be dicks to each other, no matter who’s on the other end. And don’t try to force talking about who you are in places where nobody cares - there are specific groups for that.
Being welcoming to people in general goes without saying. But we’re specifically in a thread about encouraging more women to join and making them feel safe to do so.
Even in this thread I’d rather phrase it explicitly to include everyone - I’ve seen statements like this interpreted by some individuals as “make it welcoming for women at all costs, which may include making it openly hostile for people not meeting my specific definition of woman”, which didn’t have a very pretty end result.
Glad to hear other folks having positive experiences here too! Idk about you but every single time I’ve corrected someone for referring to me as “he” on Lemmy, they’ve actually apologised. Quite the change from Reddit!
Yeah I definitely feel like a minority here sometimes but when I compare it to rules of the internet era internet it’s not even close. The misogyny has generally been the sort I’m used to as an engineer. I probably shouldn’t be basing my standards on gamergate era Reddit, but it is way better than that
There are instances to avoid interacting with but generally they’re defederated from a lot of instances because they’re welcoming to conservative assholes.
Most probbably just doubled down and made excuses. The main takeaway of the documentary was a lot of those people are just lost/lonely and being part of that club gave them a sense of belonging to a group of similar people.
Yea I’m glad the documentary uncovered that. It really shows why someone would get into this despite it being pretty easy to prove otherwise (even inadvertently proving themselves wrong) they have this little community of friends.
The sad part is that the less intelligent someone is, then the stronger is the need for that hidden truth. Highly educated and intelligent people are more comfortable with ignorance and need less that validation of having secret knowledge.
On the other side of that coin, it is much easier for someone with a high degree of intelligence and self awareness, to perform the necessary mental gymnastics to justify bullshit beliefs…
It seems that a lot of the ‘hidden truths’ that the lower intelligence people seem to gravitate to were manufactured by this kind of intelligent bullshit artist. Sociopaths that realize they can control and manipulate gullible people and use them to their own benefit, like cult leaders and such.
There was a short segment on 60 Minutes (maybe?) back in 2020 before the elections where they interviewed someone who had deprogrammed himself from Qanon.
It was the same story. He had no friends IRL, no social support, he had turned his mom onto Qanon and she was still down the rabbit hole.
He said that was the part that kept him in it for so long, even once he started questioning things. All his “friends” and close relations were part of the cult and he would have to cut ties with everyone or worse, they would turn on him and attack him as a traitor.
It would be sad if these online-cults weren’t so damaging to society.
This is a bit of a friend-of-a-friend story, so it is difficult to evaluate the veracity but here goes.
I once met a woman from Germany (2011, so some time ago now). Her friend had been to the US via some school exchange program. If I recall correctly, the state she went to was Texas but I could be wrong. Anyway, the teacher of the class this friend went to still thought that Adolf Hitler was the ruler of Germany, so she had instructed all students to stand up, do a Nazi salute and say “Heil Hitler” when she first entered the class room. She immediately left the class room, crying.
From what I remember, this supposedly happened a few years prior to me meeting this person and being told the story, so maybe 2008? I can only really vouch for the first part of this story, I was really told this. I cannot know if the rest is true, but I believed her back then at least.
Long story short, there are some backwards people on this world indeed.
My civics and history teachers ware more subtle. Occasional mentions of a news article about some welfare queen, how great Disney was for Times Square, how great it is to be invaded by America(Japan was their only example), or how the Walton heirs were the richest people behind Bill Gates(they weren’t). I think one of the biggest Aged Like Milk comments was how real estate was such a great and sound investment. This was around 2003.
Meanwhile, I only heard one mention of climate change from the science teachers in those four years. I think the biggest lesson I got from school was to never trust authority and always press for sources.
There are some gullible people in this world as well.
How on earth is someone supposed to know details about the Hitler salute and not know that 1. The US was a war with him 2. That he was only the ruler 60 years past.
Not only that but addressing someone as their head of state isn’t a thing. Nobody calls Indians Modi, or British people Sunak.
Your story is either that of a cruel joke or completely fabricated.
A had experience, A told B, B told me. If the story is a lie, A is the one who lied. But I will never know, because I do not talk with B anymore (lives in another country) and I have never met A.
Another possibility is that it happened, just not the way I was told. Perhaps only one person stood and did the salute, perhaps the salute did not happen but the teacher instead though Adolf Hitler was head or state (or someone from his faction). Or I just remember it wrong, it was not A who had the experience and it is just an urban legend. It was 10+ years ago, after all.
It’s a funny story, I just don’t know why you give it any credibility given how many highly improbable things have to be true. It’s far more likely that it was a story told solely for humourous reasons, or it was a minor fib that became more humourous over time.
It was told as a serious story and I always believed it, hence I told it as a true story. But as I said, it was 10 years ago and I might be remembering it wrong, or anything else. You don’t have to believe it and that is OK.
There was mention in a textbook of native Americans having slightly different shaped teeth, sorta scoop shaped on the inside to be good at scraping stuff. Can confirm tho, my teeth are a little scoopy, am a bit native American.
While it wouldn’t be weird for there to be slightly different bone shapes between ethnicities, it’s concerning that it would be part of a grade school curriculum and not an advance college course for dentists or forensics.
It wasn’t fully without context. We were learning how native Americans were able to tan hides without tanneries. One of the methods that they used is to scrape the skins clean and some other stuff that I don’t remember because it was like 5th grade or something, damn part of that involve them scraping the skins with their teeth, which were specifically adapted and well suited for the task.
This may have been the time when dissecting cadavers was very, very looked down on. It was seen as desecrating the body. So knowledge of the body just wasn’t there.
Ergh I’m guilty of repeating this bullshit when I was younger. It had been sold to me as a fact, not in what I perceived was a racist context per se - more a ‘oh cool, lucky them, that makes sense gestures at basketball’ way. Believe me, I get it now. Also, my mum’s black… Where did I get this bullshit from? White men can’t jump?
While there is no extra muscle, it is factually true that people of West African descent tend to have more fast twitch muscle fibers which is a pretty big advantage in many sports.
This is likely why the myth of the extra muscle originated.
Is that really true though? Many of these sports myths hold true until they suddenly don’t. Tall people were believed to be awful sprinters until Usain Bolt somehow just smashed everyone. Koreans nerds were the supposed chosen SC2 players but now it’s a chad from Italy
It’s true, but some people go way too far with it. All it means is that people of West African descent tend to have more fast twitch muscle fibers. You could be white as sour cream and get lucky with your genetics and end up the same way. It’s having those muscle fibers that’s the advantage, not having west african heritage. In sports like basketball or sprinting where fast twitch fibers are a big advantage, you tend to see populations of people who are predisposed to that getting over-represented.
You can’t give UBI to a subset of people. Then it’s not universal anymore.
But if you did give artists a basic income, how much art would they need to produce to qualify? What qualifies as art? The law doesn’t do well with those kinds of questions.
Better to implement true UBI. Give it to everyone, and afford more security to folks who want to focus on art.
Would you work harder or longer at your current job if you were paid say an unconditional 1000 per month and if not, how would productively increase to pay for it?
I will get down voted but no one will have a good answer for this.
There’s actual experiments that have been done on this and every experiment has said that people don’t quit their jobs they carry on doing their jobs and they just have a better standard of living than the otherwise would have had.
It’d be really great if you could actually look this stuff up before making comments
Actually Manitoba Canada did one of the biggest experiments and the best that came out of it was productivity fell less than expected. So no your statement does not support that.
More so this post suggest more people would do things like art which is absolutely suggesting productivity will fall.
And seriously are you telling me you wouldn’t retire earlier if you were paid a significant amount over your lifetime? I can bs on people working just as hard if they didn’t have to.
I completely agree on giving UBI to everyone, Imagine a world without artists. Without movies, TV shows, theaters, musicals, museums, books, music, sculpture, paintings, architecture.
Imagine how dull everything would be, without the creativity and imagination of these people out to use. But nowaday people just say Y0u_sH0uLd_sTuDy_SoMeThInG_t0_hAvE_iNc0mE, ignoring the consequences of the absence of arts
The solution is UBI and then tax incomes. It gives everyone the opportunity to persue goals, and if you make enough extra it is taxes to pay for everyone else to have the same opportunity. Persue art if you wish. If it’s successful you’ll get to pay it forward. You don’t have to struggle to just survive while pursuing those goals.
So if 5 percent of the workforce pursues other endeavors such as the arts or retirees sooner, and certainly people will retire sooner, where do you find the people to take out your garbage when 5 percent of them quit?
Graphic designers are not part of this. You guys can make a fucking killing designing everything from flyers, billboards, websites and bloody corporate logos.
I know a few British graphic designers. One made a logo for the US government in 1hr. They gave him $10k for it. He lives in a £1M mansion and works from home maybe 4hrs per day.
I don’t think I’ve ever met a poor graphic designer.
My town, in a surprisingly conservative part of Louisiana, has an artist residency. They pay $700/month and supply a studio to 3 artists for 9 months out of the year.
The hours are whenever the artist has the time (so as not to interfere with their jobs), and the stipulation is that they have to be available twice a month to teach evening classes about their individual style. They have to have enough pieces by the end to fill a show, as determined by the board that assigned them for the year. But there’s no hard number of art pieces required.
All this to say that it can be done. Even if right now it’s just a few artists a year in one town, the concept is there.
downvotes come at a “cost”, whereby if you want to downvote someone you have to reply directly to them with some justification, say minimum number of characters, words, etc.
I think it’s the complete opposite. Platforms with downvotes tend to be less toxic because you don’t have to reply to insane people to tell them they’re wrong, whereas platforms like Twitter get really toxic because you only see the likes, so people tend to get into fights and “ratio” them which actually increases the attention they get and spreads their message to other people.
In general, platforms without upvotes/downvotes tend to be the most toxic imo. Platforms like old-school forums and 4chan are a complete mess because low-effort troll content is as loud as high effort thoughtful ones. It takes one person to de-rail a conversation and get people to fight about something else, but with downvotes included you just lower their visibility. It’s basically crowdsourced moderation, and it works relatively well.
As for ways to reduce toxicity, shrug. Moderation is the only thing that really stops it but if you moderate too much then you’ll be called out for censoring people too much, and telling them not to get mad is just not going to happen.
My idea for less toxicity is having better filtering options for things people want to see. Upon joining a platform it would give easy options to filter out communities that are political or controversial. That’s what I’m doing on Lemmy, I’m here for entertainment, not arguing.
Yep exactly, you’ll get hiveminds and echo chambers without downvotes
Instagram is another example. Part of it is the algorithm promoting controversial and toxic comments, and part of it is the lack of downvotes and threaded comments.
What I said was that echo chambers still form even without downvotes being an option. Plenty of spaces are echo chambers without downvotes.
I agree that downvotes can amplify an echo chamber. But they also cut down on a lot of toxicity that’s otherwise present when all the controversial / toxic / hurtful comments stay prominently displayed. When that happens, there’s just a cycle of polarization and more people saying controversial and hurtful things.
The benefits of having downvotes outweigh the small amplification of the echo chambers they can cause. However I’m curious to see how it goes on Lemmy. A lot of the places where I’ve seen the above problem were places that prioritized engagement (instagram, twitter, YouTube).
Haha I think 4chan is a completely different beast. I’m seeing quite differing opinions on the thread, which is cool. It’s enlightening to see how people think about issues like this. I can see how both sides hold merit. Though in a way I disagree on simply telling people they’re wrong. I feel you can’t reason a person out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. In my experience, it’s much more effective to ask people questions and maybe they begin to see, or not, it’s out of my control at that point.
People don’t generally want to argue other people out of positions, because they’re not usually online to get into debates. A downvote isn’t telling someone they’re a bad person, it’s feedback on a specific post, which the poster can ignore or use as information to try to improve whatever they’re communicating. (Me, I do like to debate)
I checked it yesterday as I was suffering through a meeting that should have been an email and the content quality on reddit these days is appalling. I don’t have an account anymore, so I was just browsing r/all, but still, it’s very noticeable compared to a year ago.
The most noticeable thing when I went back to the site with a fresh account (unfortunately there are still a few real niche communities that I want to participate in that refuse to move) I was inundated with a bunch of right wingy content. New subs like “true unpopular opinion” parrot a bunch of shitty views disguised as “conversations”. Lots of racism, homophobia, and other terrible shit now there right in the open on the home feed.
As soon as I started seeing Reddit posts cited on mainstream news media like 5+ years ago, I knew Reddit was going to shit. Happens when a platform gets too big.
If an article sources from reddit, there is a high chance you can toss it straight into the bin.
Gaming “journalism” is full of that trash. “Players are upset with change X from game Y” and then cites an angry reddit thread and quotes posts as if it was an interview. Actual bullshit content.
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