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Encode1307 , to asklemmy in What is an absurdity that has been normalized by society?

Trump

Jackthelad ,

Normalised by America, maybe.

Outside of it, we’re all wondering what the fuck is going on.

Rozz ,

A lot of us inside the US are wondering the same thing still

Raisin8659 ,
@Raisin8659@monyet.cc avatar

And still wondering if he might actually come back.

SubArcticTundra ,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

What do you think the odds are?

cerberus ,
@cerberus@lemmy.world avatar

After his arrest, probably 50/50.

I say this as a liberal with conservative family. They’ll vote for him again.

Raisin8659 ,
@Raisin8659@monyet.cc avatar

Despite the Capitol’s riot, a survey showed 1/3 of Americans thought Biden’s presidency was illegitimate. The conservatives see the lawsuits as political prosecutions.

I’d say unless the non-trump voters come out to vote in a historical number like the last election, he stands a good chance of becoming a president again. And a number of states have passed laws that would make it harder for some subsets of voters to vote.

ConsciousLochNess ,
@ConsciousLochNess@hexbear.net avatar

He’s a heckin’ cheeto!

Moobythegoldensock , to showerthoughts in It's actually wholesome that early internet most famous meme/ viral video is a song about "never giving someone up and never letting them down"

2007 wasn’t early internet lol.

Early internet’s most famous meme was probably either hamster dance or dancing baby. All Your Base wasn’t long after.

FarFarAway , (edited )

That toaster cat shitting rainbows!

Edit or the beep beep frog with the schlong

Edit edit: guess that last one was a whole video…not a meme

UndefinedIsNotAFunction ,

Re: peanut butter jelly time - my 8 year old picked it up somewhere along the way and is one of his favorite songs now.

lord_ryvan ,

Between All Your Base Are Belong To Us and Peanut Butter Jelly Time, you guys are giving me a trip down memory lane! Or down CanIHazCheezburger and Shoop Da Whoops (although those are more recent, I believe)

folkrav ,

Nyan Cat

That’s quite recent still tho

FarFarAway ,

See the edit edit edit edit…

WarmSoda ,

Ron Livingston playing piano as a cat.

moody ,

He was imitating this video which went viral before his.

PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

idkwhatimdoing ,

For sure dancing baby. Was shared as an attachment on emails even before YouTube was a thing

bhmnscmm ,
@bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

I mean there were even fax machine “memes”. Checkout Faxlore if you weren’t around at the time.

Regna ,
@Regna@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you, I had forgotten some of the memes and jokes from that era.

kiwifoxtrot ,
@kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world avatar
PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/kCpjgl2baLs

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

dandroid ,

Okay, have a nap.

kiwifoxtrot ,
@kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world avatar

THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES

Donebrach ,
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

even this is pretty late-stage flash content. We must go deeper.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

Wasn’t frog in a blender before that?

keefshape ,

Nuhuh.

True early internet meme was pics from Madonna’s coffee table book. Iykyk.

dandroid ,

I miss the days of looping flash videos. The Badger Song, The Llama Song, Magical Trevor, etc. Those defined my childhood.

TimoBRL ,

Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers mushroom mushroom

Enkrod ,
@Enkrod@feddit.de avatar

Here’s a llama, there’s a llama and another little llama

qprimed , to linux in I switched from Windows 10 to Linux. Its great!

I just went from small dark closed box to a nice huge green open(source) forest…

best. sentence. ever.

enjoy your new found freedom to explore and learn, friend.

madeinthebackseat , to asklemmy in What happened to the main Piracy community

Lots of folks here with strong opinions that have never dealt with legal proceedings, or an itemized bill calculated in 6-minute increments.

jimmydoreisalefty ,

Would it have to be hosted in a matter similar to VPNs/some mail clients and others?

LMK if anyone knows more, thank you!

madeinthebackseat ,

Likely a jurisdiction issue moreso anything else.

It’s also hard to keep a hosting location wholly confidential.

jimmydoreisalefty ,

Thanks for the reply!

Radio_717 , to youshouldknow in YSK about bismuth subgallate, an "internal deodorant" that makes your stools and flatulence not smelly

The suggested use for anyone not bothering to look this up is to deodorize gas and stool but it’s suggested use is for people with colostomy or exposed stomas where smelly gas and stool is a constantly expelled or people with chronic gas and liquid stool.

I wouldn’t want to stick any drug in my body just to stop farting in social situations. Every drug has or could have side effects even Tylenol or aspirin.

Drusas ,

Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol is actually very dangerous. Almost surprising that it's allowed over the counter.

Radio_717 ,

That’s why I specifically mentioned it. :)

Instigate ,

Paracetamol often gets touted as being dangerous as it’s the commonest drug used in intentional overdoses, however its LD50 is around 2g/kg, meaning that a 70kg human would usually need to take about 140g to end their life. Paracetamol is usually sold in 250mg tablets, so this translates to around 560 individual tablets. Toxicity occurs at much lower levels, but this very rarely results in death.

A bigger issue is chronic paracetamol toxicity, which is caused by taking very large amounts daily for an extended period of time. This has significant detrimental effects to the liver and kidneys.

In general though, and certainly by comparison to many other drugs that are prescription-only, it’s quite a safe drug. Death only occurs in roughly 0.1% of all cases of paracetamol toxicity, there is no known risk of addiction, there are very low rates of allergic reactions, and allergic reactions that occur are only very rarely anaphylactic.

christophski , to asklemmy in What's some really unpopular opinion you have?

Not having kids because of climate change is stupid. You are leaving the world in the hands of people who care less than you.

AdmiralShat ,

I upvoted because this contributes to the discussion of the question, but fuck you

christophski ,

Well that’s rather uncalled for isn’t it

tehmics ,

I’ll be dead before then and if I don’t make offspring then so will anyone I care about. Y’all have fun destroying the planet lol

okmko ,

Yes, it’s a less than egalitarian choice, I acknowledge that, but my empathy is only finite.

cryptosporidium140 ,

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  • christophski ,

    Is that a chance you want to take?

    cryptosporidium140 ,

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  • christophski ,

    The you do not care about the world at all?

    relevants ,

    Setting aside how needlessly passive-aggressive your comment is– most people don’t care about the world at large. They care about their family, their social circle, their tribe/in-group, but not the world at large. Otherwise climate change wouldn’t be as big of an issue in the first place.

    christophski ,

    My point is that we should care about the world at large and we should lead by example.

    relevants ,

    Then you did a very poor job of making that point through your (presumably rhetorical) question.

    christophski ,

    If you look at the reply from the person I was actually talking to, you will see that they do not care for the world as a whole. I was not making the point in the comment you are referring to, I was just replying to that person.

    r1veRRR ,

    This would only make sense if morality, or caring for others was somehow genetic AND unalterable. My parents aren’t bad, per se, but most of my moral and philosophical growth came from other people. Be it teachers, random people, philosophers, or Breadtube.

    christophski ,

    Of course it is not entirely certain that offspring will have the same ideals as their parents, but it’s clear to see that younger generations are moving in the right direction whereas older generations find it harder to change their behaviour and values.

    Aux ,

    Everyone should be sterilised, problem solved!

    christophski ,

    To be fair, the world would be perfectly well off if humans ceased to exist

    Aux ,

    Yep

    BorgDrone ,
    argv_minus_one ,

    If I were to choose to have kids despite climate change, doesn’t that prove that I don’t care about climate change?

    christophski ,

    The point is that climate change is bigger than one or two people, it’s about changing our entire societies so that we all agree that reversing the affects of climate change is the ultimate goal and work together to do something about it. Sure adding people into the mix is not ideal, but without more people with the right mindset we will never achieve the change that is needed.

    Let’s not leave the world to the people that couldn’t care less and will continue to ravage it for all they can until it is a desolate wasteland.

    argv_minus_one ,

    Environmentalists do not have a snowball’s chance in hell of outbreeding the “drill, baby, drill” crowd.

    cantsurf ,

    Snowflake’s chance is a more fun analogy. Don’t get offended, it’s a joke.

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  • Sarcastik ,

    Counter opinion… Given the terrible trajectory of our world and society as a whole. Plus how every living generation has failed to do even the bear minimum to solve it… You’re kind of a shitty human being by condemning your children to suffer our mistakes.

    Not to mention, you’re not that awesome and ultimately part of the problem, so maybe we don’t need more of you (or me for that matter).

    christophski ,

    My parents put me on this world which is on the trajectory it is, I do not blame them. At least I have the opportunity to do good in the world.

    AdmiralShat ,

    But you dont? You instead just say “well my parents did it, so I’ll do it to”

    cantsurf ,

    I agree with everything you said. The path to a brighter future is not more humans, its fewer. The idea that thoughtful, intelligent people should feel obligated to reproduce for the benefit of humanity is ridiculous.

    BorgDrone ,

    But the leading cause of climate change is overpopulation.

    There were 3 billion humans on this planet in 1960. There are 8 billion humans right now. And all those humans are producing waste, using energy, etc.

    Even if we reduce the per-capita ecological footprint, we’re outbreeding the gains we make.

    rikudou , to fediverse in Small instance has to shut down - Sunsetting Waveform.social

    I mean, that instance had open registrations with no checks (meaning no email required, no manual approvement, no captcha). Not surprising people were misusing it - you can just automatically create hundreds of accounts in a few seconds.

    SigmarStern , to workreform in Almost all remote-work news is negative now but was positive in the beginning of the pandemic. Have you noticed this or am I going crazy?
    @SigmarStern@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I have noticed that working remotely really opened up the job market for me. Instead of being limited to where public transportation can bring me within 45 minutes, I can work for any company within Europe from the comfort of my home office. It makes switching jobs so much easier and I am willing to tolerate much less shit before I quit. That degree of freedom might scare companies. They can’t trap me anymore with the costs of uprooting my life for a better job.

    Professorozone ,

    I’ve never worked from home, but it seems to me that even if everything else were kept equal, you just saved an hour and a half commute plus the cost of doing so, every day! When you add in the lower cost of food and healthier diet eating at home and a whole host of other advantages. It’s a huge win! Congrats.

    uranibaba ,

    I worked from home for ~6 months full time, my experience was that I will never do it full time again. For me, it was waking up, watch the same four walls for 8 hours, eat dinner, sleep, repeat. Perhaps my office could have been better but because I was working with support and had to be available on the phone, I could not really leave my computer for an extended period of time (except for lunch break).

    A lot of people make it out to be heaven, working from home. I really missed having people to talk to. I believe that it would have been a much better experience if I could have worked from home 0-5 days per week as I saw fit. Bad morning? Work from home. Waking up fresh? Go to work. I’m assuming that you can walk or bike to work. Few things are worse than being stuck in traffic or being on a crowed bus/train, or missing the bus with 1 min, having to wait 15 min for the next one, when with the bike I can leave whenever I want.

    demlet ,

    I think it’s very situational. I’m already a big shut-in. Working full time at home might not be great for my mental health. It’s sad to admit I use work for social contact, but it’s true. If you have good social connections outside of work, great.

    All that said, this whole debate is very classist. There are loads of jobs, including mine incidentally, that require physically being there. I mostly haven’t paid attention to this debate because it doesn’t apply to me or the people I know, and probably never will.

    EssentialCoffee ,

    Conversely, I found out just how many spoons I was using to function interacting with folks on a daily basis and that the strains my extroverted colleagues were talking about without having people were things I’d just lived with and normalized for my entire life because our society forced you to be around people all of the time.

    Give me my four walls, pls. I spend every waking hour on a computer anyway, either working or personal, so it’s going to be four walls one way or another.

    freamon , to asklemmy in What is your favorite operating system and what do you like about it?

    TempleOS. All other operating systems are sinful.

    Kissaki ,

    Do you pray before logging in?

    freamon ,

    It wouldn’t let you log in at all if you didn’t. It’s devine 2FA.

    superkret ,

    Please enter your password and wait for divine intervention.

    ggppjj ,

    Why wait? Press the talk to God button until it says “login successful”!

    rumbleran ,

    You don’t need to log in with TempleOS because God said so.

    Spacebar , to technology in If the cream of the crop is original content, bots are useless
    @Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

    A bot that posts sports team scores to a sports community? Sure, I guess. A bot that reports popular reddit posts? No way.

    Some content bots make sense, but in a very narrow scope.

    younity OP ,

    While I see the merit, I digress, I don’t think any bots should be allowed for non-admin users.

    Spzi ,

    I also want less bot posts in my communities, but what’s wrong about a bot that posts sports team scores to a sports community?

    younity OP ,

    What’s wrong that is for that bot to exist, the platform must explicitly allow other bots to also exist for fairness sake, it’s a bot floodgate. I think the floodgate should be vehemently shut latched and bolted down sooner than later, and I already think it’s too late.

    Spzi ,

    the platform must explicitly allow other bots to also exist for fairness sake

    With platform, you mean instance or community? They can have arbitrary rules and don’t have to be fair. One could say only this specific bot is allowed which we currently use, another could disallow bots unless whitelisted by the mods, or whatever.

    Or do I miss a technical aspect?

    younity OP ,

    Unless this becomes a standard for the fediverse. I’m going to opt-out of fediverse social media altogether. Bots have no place in human based social media : full-stop.

    Spzi ,

    I understood this is the opinion and the request, but still don’t know what harm would be caused by a bot that posts sports team scores to a sports community? Assumed unwanted further bot influx is prevented. The ‘why’ is unclear for me in this case.

    younity OP ,

    The API access for bots allows for other people to access that API and make bots that do other things. You are opening the floodgates to other bots because there isn’t quite the ability to say “only sports bots who post legitmate scores at times when there are real games occurring can post automatically” you see, that is not going to happen, thereby opening the floodgates to all other bots with no recourse.

    moobythegoldensock ,

    Or you can just block them.

    younity OP ,

    Why allow bots, marketing assholes, and spammers the platform to post and spam to the fediverse? Why? IT really achieves nothing of value and literally just dilutes real, original user activity and discussion.

    moobythegoldensock ,

    Then set up your own instance with no bots, and defederate with any instance that uses bots.

    It appears that most people here don’t agree. I have the one repost bot blocked because it was just filling up TIL, but otherwise I don’t personally care as long ad they’re not intrusive.

    younity OP ,

    People like you are why any place of cultural import becomes less and less interesting as you inhabit and deteriorate the standards which used to be upheld from within. You are the ultimate consumer. “I don’t care” is not a position on any philosophical debate, why should it stand here?

    Die4Ever ,
    @Die4Ever@programming.dev avatar

    there’s an option in your settings to hide bots, just use that

    younity OP ,

    There’s also an option to kill myself to avoid reading your post, but I don’t want to do that.

    CIA_chatbot ,

    Man, harsh

    CIA_chatbot ,

    Why do you have to be so hurtful

    cheese_greater ,

    Read the username, folks. Context is key

    CIA_chatbot ,

    Hehe, sometimes people get the joke sometimes they don’t:)

    cheese_greater ,

    I feel like we’re being followed (consistent single downvote…). Wait for it ;)

    CIA_chatbot ,

    It’s probably a KGB_chatbot.

    cheese_greater ,

    Een Soviet Rrrusia, chatbot question yoü!

    younity OP ,

    If you have to explain the joke it wasn’t funny

    Peanutbjelly ,

    some subreddits were basically bots posting new topical research papers, which i appreciated.

    TootSweet , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in Why are indigo and violet in the rainbow and not just purple?

    Actually, the answer turns out to be pretty interesting.

    The short version is that what colors are considered "distinct" are heavily influenced by culture and Newton, from whom we get ROYGBIV, came from a culture which valued the dye called "indego."

    Edit: It also seems Newton thought the number 7 had cosmic significance and thought there ought to be 7 colors.

    More info in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7WT6TLy8s

    FelipeFelop ,
    @FelipeFelop@feddit.uk avatar

    The history of Orange is fascinating. In English it wasn’t really considered a major colour but referred to as a shade of red (as in red deer), yellow (sometimes red-saffron). It was the introduction of Oranges that led to things being called Orange coloured.

    There’s a similar lack of distinction between Green/Blue in the ancient world.

    TheActualDevil ,

    I still see people without color-blindness have trouble distinguishing some shades of red/yellow/orange.

    Nelots ,
    @Nelots@lemmy.world avatar

    Huh, I had always assumed oranges got their name from the color, not the other way around…

    FelipeFelop ,
    @FelipeFelop@feddit.uk avatar

    Orange the fruit comes from the Sanskrit name naranga through other languages. Along the way it lost the N (well technically the n moved to the a, so we have an orange 🙂)

    Buddahriffic ,

    There’s a similar lack of distinction between Green/Blue in the ancient world.

    How would that arise? There’s blues in the sky that are very distinct from the greens of plants. Or are the blue detecting rods (or is it the cones that detect colour?) that new that we can perceive blue more than they could in early recorded history?

    FelipeFelop , (edited )
    @FelipeFelop@feddit.uk avatar

    They were simply considered shades of the same colour, that’s all. The light spectrum is continuous our breakdown of the continuity into discrete colours is purely arbitrary.

    The colour we call sky-blue is considered a separate colour altogether in Japan (Misu)

    Pink is named after the flowers Pinks and is called Rose in some languages but we use Rose for a different colour which is more magenta.

    Notice how we don’t have words for some colours so use adjectives (bluey -green) There are some languages that don’t use or have any words for colours but alsways describe them. For example “bright fire like”

    Fisk400 ,

    You know how some people can tell you the exact shade of two colors that you consider identical? Turns out that giving colors distinct names in our mind makes us way better at seeing the difference and that is how we chop up the color spectrum from an infinite number of colors to seven. You think blue is completely different because you went to school and being able to tell the difference between blue and green was a requirement for you. If the school told you that the sky is a light shade of green and the forest is a dark shade of green you would adjust your brain accordingly.

    I guess my point is that all colors are made up by the state and we indoctrinate our children into the government sanctioned system at an early age.

    Obi ,
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    That last paragraph took a turn, haha.

    protist , (edited )

    There’s a great Radiolab about this, highly recommend a listen.

    MAY 21, 2012

    Why Isn’t the Sky Blue?

    What is the color of honey, and “faces pale with fear”? If you’re Homer–one of the most influential poets in human history–that color is green. And the sea is “wine-dark,” just like oxen…though sheep are violet. Which all sounds…well, really off. Producer Tim Howard introduces us to linguist Guy Deutscher, and the story of William Gladstone (a British Prime Minister back in the 1800s, and a huge Homer-ophile). Gladstone conducted an exhaustive study of every color reference in The Odyssey and The Iliad. And he found something startling: No blue! Tim pays a visit to the New York Public Library, where a book of German philosophy from the late 19th Century helps reveal a pattern: across all cultures, words for colors appear in stages. And blue always comes last. Jules Davidoff, professor of neuropsychology at the University of London, helps us make sense of the way different people see different colors in the same place. Then Guy Deutscher tells us how he experimented on his daughter Alma when she was just starting to learn the colors of the world around, and above, her.

    Bonus: The Colors episode

    Thassar ,

    You can actually see it in modern times. The Himba tribe in Africa doesn’t have a concept of the colour blue. There’s not even a word for it, as far as they’re concerned blue is just a shade of green. To us it seems obvious, the sky is blue and the plants are green but to them it’s all different shades of green. It’s not a genetic thing, they’re seeing the exact same colours as anybody else, their culture just doesn’t distinguish between the two colours.

    Hamartiogonic ,
    @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Well it was the 1600s and he was a natural philosopher. Back in those days, all sorts of weird stuff ended up in the books because it fit a certain philosophy. Our modern understanding of empirical science is a relatively new idea.

    Aidan , to nostupidquestions in Is it wrong to sell your Reddit account?

    They sell your data and don’t feel bad. Why should you feel bad about selling your data?

    abaixodecao ,
    @abaixodecao@lemmy.world avatar

    ^ this.

    Kissaki ,

    “Do as bad as they do.”

    Archpawn ,

    You’re not selling your account so they can datamine reddit. You’re selling it so that they can put ads on Reddit that look like a user commenting. Which is also a thing Reddit does.

    livus ,
    @livus@kbin.social avatar

    Not necessarily. Some if them use them to post malicious links to sites that will steal your credit card data or try to attack you.

    insomniac ,
    @insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

    There’s probably more money in just doing that directly

    xavier666 , to lemmyshitpost in Boxing

    Fun fact: if the girl punched with the same velocity as a mantis shrimp, her arm would have come out of her shoulder socket joint.

    lowleveldata ,

    Aren’t the strong body parts what allows them to punch so fast? Therefore if she was able to punch so fast her body should be fine as well

    xavier666 ,

    I would be inclined to agree with you, but shoulder dislocation during a punch is not uncommon in boxing. There was a viral video regarding this where the boxer dislocated his arm due to the sheer force of his punch (missed the opponent), the coach put it back in, and then went on fighting in the same round.

    Annoyed_Crabby ,

    Unless if she also have enamel laminated fist, then yeah she would be unharmed while whoever received those punch will be pulverised.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    I can see how that would be slightly disadvantageous for the second fight, yes… 🤔

    xavier666 ,

    The good thing is if she can land the punch, a second fight won’t be necessary :D

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Except a championship usually consists of more than one fight… Unless she’s already the defending champion or top challenger.

    In which case she probably could have won fairly 🤷

    xavier666 ,

    Time to learn from the crustacean how to grow arms as well

    Viking_Hippie ,

    If I had a nickel for every time I’d been given that exact advice from a well-meaning boxing expert…

    ShaggySnacks ,

    I’d have two nickels-- which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

    thrawn ,

    I think if my opponent removed the head of their last challenger and still had an arm left, I’d back out of that fight. I imagine next in line would too

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Depends: you could have been trained by immortal Chinese sorcerer Lo Pan, evening the odds out somewhat 😉

    lostme ,

    Well she got 2 arms, doesn’t she? :>

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Sure looks like It. On the other hand (pun intended), as far as I’m informed, most boxers actually need to use BOTH arms in order to win…

    Astongt615 ,

    Not if you punch with the velocity if a mantis shrimp

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Gotta be a pretty crazy opponent to not just concede after seeing this fight.

    But then again, whoever comes up for the 3rd fight will have it easy

    ulterno ,
    @ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

    But if she hit the target, which hopefully had enough resistance, all she would have is a comminuted fracture.

    morrowind ,
    @morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

    Since she’s larger than a mantis shrimp, I’d be inclined to scale up the speed accordingly.

    ZarkleFarkle ,

    Speeds scale up in their technology using advanced geometries we don’t fully understand today.

    Bishma , to science_memes in You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    There’s no such thing as a tree.

    And as a QI fan, I feel compelled to add there’s no such thing as a fish

    fossilesque OP ,
    @fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar
    GlennMagusHarvey ,
    @GlennMagusHarvey@mander.xyz avatar

    A local park ranger I know likes to remark that our state tree is a grass. (I’m in Florida.)

    But I’d say that’s also inaccurate. IMO, grasses are in the family Poaceae, and palms are in the family Arecaceae. I guess one could remark that our state tree is a commelinid…but I don’t think tourists would get as much of a kick out of that.

    flora_explora ,

    Typical trees belong to a group of plants called dicots

    Whaaaat? Swiftly ignoring all gymnosperms? The temperate zones are full of trees that aren’t dicots, or even angiosperms! Focusing on some biological traits that aren’t crucial to the definition of a tree sounds like the author already likes their neat categories and wants to retroactively justify them…

    Dasus ,
    @Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

    Halt! I’m here to check the expiry date of your facts!

    dohpaz42 ,
    @dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

    You forgot about the myth of vegetables.

    flora_explora ,

    Indeed, it simply is not a phylogenetic categorization but a physio-ecological one. Tree, like shrub, liana, herbaceous, woody/non-woody are all terms solely used to place plants into functional groups based on how they grow. None of these has to do with their taxonomy.

    So the question is, what is a tree and is having secondary growth necessary to be one? Because monocots, like palms are, don’t have secondary growth, they use some workarounds. But why should that matter in the definition of a tree? I don’t know. So yeah, a coconut palm should be considered a tree. But it hasn’t got to do with phylogenetics (like explained in the article you linked).

    Also, millennia ago there have been vast forests of lycopods!! Just imagine huge trees that are actually spikemosses. So why shouldn’t a palm not be a tree?

    Swedneck ,
    @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    my definition of a tree is basically “a plant consisting of a single pillar-like robust trunk”.

    most plants can be trees, especially ones that generally grow as bushes, if they are prodded into doing so by pruning and whatever other pressures, and there are some plants that seem to flip a coin to decide whether they grow into bushes or trees.

    criitz ,

    Neat read, thanks

    Etterra ,

    Except that yes there is. It’s just not a scientific term. Same with fish.

    MonkderVierte ,

    Of plants native to the Canary Islands, wood independently evolved at least 38 times!

    Thorry84 ,

    No such thing as a tree? So you mean all those binary trees I’ve been inverting have been a lie? My whole world is shattered.

    Erasmus , to science_memes in CEPHALOPODS
    @Erasmus@lemmy.world avatar

    I would love doing this. Just imagine pointing at a painting or model of two dinosaurs fighting and yelling ‘MAH GAWD HES KILLING HIM! HE BROKE HIS BACK!!!’

    goldteeth ,

    “And as we can see from this computer model of continental drift in the late Triassic era… AS GOD AS MY WITNESS, THE SUPERCONTINENT OF PANGAEA IS BROKEN IN HALF!”

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