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TheRealKuni , to lemmyshitpost in maple beans rule

I still have a tab in my phone’s browser with this exact meme from last year. I love it.

dditty , to science_memes in this one goes out to the urban planning nerds

This, and we need to reincorporate female trees in urban areas to reduce the rampant pollen pollution caused by exclusively using male trees 🤧

FuckyWucky ,

Male trees being coomers

SchmidtGenetics , (edited )

The cleanup cost from the fruit is what’s prohibitive about that, leaving the fruit isn’t an option since it makes the sidewalks unusable from the mess, it rots and creates mold spores, pests, rodents, etc, they all thrive.

Theres a very good argument to why they shouldn’t introduce females everywhere.

And how’s the males supposed to know if they are pollinating something or not for that matter? It would be less trees making pollen, but there will still be pollen.

grue ,

Also, letting the homeless and working class forage for the fruit would be way too egalitarian and compassionate. Totally unacceptable!

SchmidtGenetics ,

Ideally the homeless wouldn’t exist in this scenario, and sure, the public can grab the bottom 8’? The public really can’t be trusted to safely use ladders, so that options right out.

I’m all for it, but realistically it’s not a feasible solution? It’s to costly, wheter it be to collect it and give to public safely, or to provide ladders and medical care for the people who inevitably fall.

grue , (edited )

My area has an entire non-profit org devoted to urban foraging, so maybe my perspective on its feasibility is a little different.

concrete-jungle.org

SchmidtGenetics , (edited )

… a non profit relies on donations, needs volounteers, or other source of income, so it’s either paid through taxes like I mentioned, or through money in the end anyways…?

Sure I guess that works? Whatever makes you feel better, but it’s still the same scenario in the end.

barsoap , (edited )

I mean they’re harvesting food I bet sales can cover ladders and fuel and whatnot. If you’re short on workers ask literally any other non-profit if they wouldn’t like half a ton of apples to make pie with for one of their projects, you’ll get your workers. Have a general “pluck two get one” policy provided they’re not selling the stuff, no other questions asked.

Basically all that’s necessary is to have someone responsible for organising things, the economics are trivial as we’re literally talking about distributing stuff for free.

em2 ,
@em2@lemmy.ml avatar

Free food that drops out of the trees? Get the fuck outta here.

lugal ,

I don’t think we are talking about actually edible fruits but I’m not sure

HappyFrog ,

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  • grue ,

    Wow, that’s some real bullshit spin. I’m almost impressed.

    flora_explora ,

    Well, it’s not that easy. Many plants have both female and male flower parts or flowers. And even if a species has individuals with only one of both sexes, then it might change over the season or over age. So there is really no way around pollen…

    Rubanski ,

    ULPT: You can pretend your allergy is a cold and call in sick

    Sparky ,
    @Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    What? Trees have genders? I guess I learned something new!

    NeatNit ,

    News to me too… And I think it might be wrong but I don’t know enough to say with confidence.

    how I thought it works is that trees have male and female parts, but a single tree can have both parts. And some trees can self-pollinate.

    My uneducated guess is that it depends on the species, some are sexed and some are hermaphrodite. That’s how it goes in the animal kingdom.

    wazzupdog , to piracy in Win8

    Afaik, you can just download windows and run it, till just get an “activate windows” prompt that might be annoying. It’s great if you just want to try something out if you need windows to update firmware of a peripheral.

    DoucheBagMcSwag , (edited ) to patientgamers in What have you been playing this week?

    Persona 5 Royal Reloaded

    I got P5R on steam sale at lowest price and found out with a jail broken PS4 (which i have) you can convert your save to PC so you don’t have to start over (completed first dungeon on PS4 and dropped it a few years ago)

    Can’t stop playing it now, especially with mods that mix up the battle music and one ones that restore the oddly cut content shown in the recently leaked 2015 beta build. (More hangouts and more “M” rated language present)

    CaliforniaKove , to world in Media Bias Fact Check - Automation
    @CaliforniaKove@lemmy.ca avatar

    We feel this is especially important with the US Election coming up

    This is not us news but ok

    HikingVet , (edited )

    It does have an effect on the world. Or did we somehow remove the states and their influence from the world?

    Edit: a downvote and no answer! Oh how you make my heart sing while I verify your troll status!

    richtellyard , to lemmyshitpost in Boxing

    I’m pretty sure this comic was originally created in reference to Another Crab’s Treasure

    RyanLiu ,

    Pretty sure it’s a reference to a real life shrimp called the mantis shrimp, which the game is referencing as well.

    Track_Shovel OP ,

    Pretty sure it’s a reference to Ratatouille, hence the hat

    PapaStevesy ,

    Pretty sure it’s a reference to boxing, because of the gloves and the ring.

    Someplaceunknown , (edited )
    @Someplaceunknown@fedia.io avatar

    Pretty sure it’s a reference to murder, hence the dead body

    driving_crooner ,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    Pretty sure is in reference to Mayan murals, because of the use of different pictures to tell a story.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Pretty sure it’s about colors, hence the red and brown etc

    Katana314 ,

    Pretty shore

    Sorry I’m out at a beach and just commenting on the first thing I see

    grrgyle ,

    Peaches order!

    Sorry I picked up a box of peaches and just excited about it

    Chozo , to fediverse in what happened to kbin?

    Ernest, the lead dev for Kbin, has had a lot of big events happen in his life recently, so he has a tendency to just kinda disappear for weeks/months at a time while the project gets put on hold. He'll usually come back, announce new plans for development, maybe push out a few updates, and then inevitably go radio silent again.

    I believe he's got a few people assisting him now, but development has definitely slowed to the point of becoming concerning. I think it might be time for the Mbin team to start getting a little more free with the fork.

    originalucifer ,
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    I think it might be time for the Mbin team to start getting a little more free with the fork.

    eh? what do you mean?

    Chozo ,

    I believe that currently, Mbin isn't making any drastic changes, and relying mostly on Kbin's existing code as its base. As far as I'm aware, the Mbin team are mostly just doing maintenance-level development; fixing things as they break and making optimizations, but not so much in the way of developing new features. Mbin is currently just basically a copy of Kbin, without much distinguishing the two.

    Since Kbin doesn't seem to be moving much at all, I think it might be a good idea for Mbin to start flexing their own muscles a bit, and making it into its own separate project. Otherwise, having a copy of a stale project just leaves you with two stale projects.

    originalucifer ,
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    youre not wrong, they spent a lot of time refactoring things, and still are.

    that said, the list of changes in the last several versions is very long, and the code base is no longer trivially similar. looking through the waiting prs, there are a lot of interesting bits like extending microblog AP connectivity (tag handling).

    the mbin guys have been pumping out releases steadily since the fork, including implementing managed documentation and version numbering. it has well exceeded kbin at this stage.

    theyre prepping for a 1.7 release soon. when was the last kbin update? to me, theres only one stale project here.

    Chozo ,

    Thanks for the insight! I'm not super familiar with how the development cycle goes, so my thoughts are coming from the standpoint of a user experiencing both platforms. I'm sure that a lot of the back-end stuff has probably had a lot of improvements, but the end-user experience between Kbin and Mbin are still largely identical, I feel.

    I was gonna load up Kbin to try to do a live comparison but, uh... Yeah, who knows when that'll be possible again lol

    BentiGorlich ,
    @BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

    Mbin isn't making any drastic changes

    UI wise, that one is definitely true

    and relying mostly on Kbin's existing code as its base

    This one most certainly not. We actually stopped porting kbin code a few months into the project, because it just was too much work and it was obvious that Ernest didn't want us to. So everything which changed on mbin in the about 8-10 months since, was purely our own work. Of course the basis will always be kbin, but the form will most likely change

    We've been keeping the UI mostly as is, because we all like it, however on the backend site of it a lot has changed. The biggest problems kbin had were compatibility wise (federation) and scaling wise. These were the points where we made huge changes. The federation compatibility has improved a lot (yes there is still a lot to do) and scaling/performance has also improved a ton.

    The biggest UI changes we made are:

    • new filter designs that work for threads as well as microblogs
    • a subscription panel
    • a usable instance wide modlog
    • a cake day display
    • and more stuff that I am forgetting at the moment (it's been a while since I looked at kbin and I am mostly a backend dev)

    The backend changes we improved are (imo) more impactful:

    • (next release) direct messages are federating
    • (next release) pins federate
    • deleting users federate
    • magazine descriptions are federating correctly
    • mods federate
    • reports federate
    • incoming likes are working
    • the "hot" sort actually makes sense with lemmy content because it also looks at upvotes and not just at boosts
    • completely redone the hashtag system so it scales at all
    • completely redone the background worker system so it scales better (partly next release)

    And these are only the changes I could think of in 5 minutes. We likely changed a lot more things, which I just forgot.

    Blaze ,

    Thanks for the insights!

    Chozo ,

    Holy shit, that's awesome! Thanks for sharing!

    melroy ,
    @melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

    Yes indeed, we made a lot of changes under the hood!

    RedSquadCampFollower OP ,

    it might be time for the Mbin team to start getting a little more free with the fork.

    the impression i had of mbin was very “anything goes” did that not end up being how things shaped up??

    originalucifer ,
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    its a community. anyone can generate a pr, code it up and it gets discussed. so far there has been no crazy drama about what to include or not.. no one has proffered any incompatible ideas. its been quite pleasant

    its all public though, in the matrix or github channels

    BentiGorlich ,
    @BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

    That was the message that was pushed out when @melroy started the fork, because a lot of people were not particularly fond of the way he did it. We were trash talked a lot in the first months and obviously (and sadly) that kinda stuck on a lot of people.

    melroy ,
    @melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

    I did the fork in the best way I could think of. Including a very detailed Collective Code Construction Contract for contributors: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/blob/main/C4.md

    PlasticExistence ,

    I’ll never fully understand why humans are so quick to judge and offer non-constructive criticism on someone else’s creative work. It seems like the least knowledge are most often the loudest in this regard.

    cabbage ,
    @cabbage@piefed.social avatar

    Communication is difficult, especially over text, and emotions can get strong as there is a lot of work involved. Software developers are not always the greatest diplomats. Well-intended constructive feedback is often read as criticism, and situations escalate. And for whatever reason people love picking sides.

    At least Mbin seems like a healthy project now, and since Kbin.social went down for good it's hard to argue a fork wasn't needed. Hopefully Ernest is alive and recovering well - he did us all a huge service by creating Kbin and making it open source.

    PlasticExistence ,

    Agreed. Diplomacy is not a skill that many people practice, and even when they do misunderstandings happen over text too easily.

    moon ,

    So it basically failed the bus factor

    Hopefully mbin becomes more resilient, or if Lemmy just gets some nice rewrites.

    cabbage ,
    @cabbage@piefed.social avatar

    I'm using both Mbin and Piefed and I'm loving both! It's absolutely not looking bleak. :)

    MonkderVierte , to lemmyshitpost in maple beans rule

    Are we back to beans? 😫

    Track_Shovel OP ,

    Don’t make me start the jeans thing

    caut_R , to patientgamers in What have you been playing this week?

    Sadly, I‘ve been sick, so I couldn’t play for more than a couple minutes at a time AND my Steam Deck decided to go into a boot loop for no reason, black screen, fans spinning, no BIOS access; had to let it run itself dry in the boot loop for 6 hours and when I connected the AC adapter it booted normally as if nothing happened, crazy!

    Anyway, I played a little of Frog Detective 2, it‘s a silly, very short, and simple game series that was perfectly suited for my current state of mind.

    deafboy , to games in Do you prefer RPGs or FPS games?
    @deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly, we should call FPS games for what they really are… point and click.

    Rhynoplaz , to mildlyinteresting in Whole foods

    When the specials check YOU out!

    skullgiver , to asklemmy in Seeking Active Lemmy Instances Unrelated to Lemmy.world: Advice Needed
    @skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

    Try sorting join-lemmy.org/instances by activity. Lem.ee seems to be the most active (non-NSFW) instance.

    I don’t know what the internet drama with .world moderation is about, though, so you may want to read up on the moderation style of other servers.

    I don’t think many major servers block .world entirely, maybe Beehaw still does? You may need to set up your own server to fully block the larger servers.

    CaliforniaKove OP ,
    @CaliforniaKove@lemmy.ca avatar

    Very interesting, thanks a lot

    iAvicenna , to lemmyshitpost in Fromsoft classes like
    @iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

    rogue-like entered the chat

    Klear ,

    RPG: Amateurs!

    hswolf , to patientgamers in What have you been playing this week?
    @hswolf@lemmy.world avatar

    Monster Hunter World

    FarmTaco , to memes in Jeff's magic money machine

    Ill show up to dealership row and just start buying out car dealerships until I hit 100m and have that done in an afternoon

    itslilith ,
    @itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Bad investment, you can’t resell them for nearly as much and you’ve contributed to the automobile industry that is lobbying hard against climate change policy

    I’d start buying up mid-sized companies and reorganizing them as worker co-ops. Doing some long-term good while not violating the terms of the contract

    If you’re just after the money, do as every billionaire looking to launder some money does and buy art.

    FarmTaco ,

    no way are you finishing a company takeover in a month

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