It’s not even an overseas territory, it’s a full-fledged department of France. They couldn’t exclude it even if they wanted. And it’s not excluded in the map, if you look closely, even while Guyana and Surinam are.
Can someone explain what is the big deal of creating a Playstation account? I know they’ve added the requirement retroactively, and I know everyone wants steam to be it’s own thing, but this is not really a unique situation… I have a lot of games across many publishers that have their own useless accounts tied to it. What makes this different?
The big deal is that you are now forced to create an account with yet another service and give them analytics about your behavior, for literally no benefit to you.
Even though this is widely accepted, this is just not okay in any case. Not when Ubisoft did it, not now.
I bet you $20 he made that comment either from his android phone or from chrome on a Windows PC. OH NO, I suddenly care about my gaming history being collected by Sony. You dont even have to install 3rd party software, it is an in-game link. No standalone launcher like most games nowadays.
This is no different than your other games with useless.one off accounts. That’s the problem. They all are a problem. I bought red dead 2 and refunded it as soon as I was required to create a rockstar account. It serves no purpose to me, I don’t need it or want it. If we don’t push back these useless account things will keep being added.
And retroactive add is a massive problem. They took people’s money then screwed them after. It sets the precedent that this is acceptable if people just take it.
What’s next? Removing areas and features of games after release for something that you paid for?
It seems a lot of people did not realize that this was an initial requirement when the game first launched, but it was suspended while they figured out server and stability issues.
That was never mentioned in a meaningful way on my purchasing platform, or in the game. At no point was I told that I was only temporarirly allowed to play without a PSN account, and that the entire game would be locked down months later unless I created and linked one. Were that the case, I would have refunded on day 1.
It was deactivated while they were trying to sort out the server instability issues in the beginning. They announced it would eventually return, and it’s the main reason why the friends list has been messed up.
PSN accounts, in particular, are pretty bad. In some places, they require a photo ID in order to make an account, and in many regions of the world, you can’t make one at all. Something like 50 of the regions where the game was sold can’t make PSN accounts, and using a VPN to make an account or lying about your region is a bannable offense.
It’s a valid concern, both from paying for something that you can’t even use and a privacy perspective.
Then VAC ban the steam account since you sold on steam. The game worked fine for months after launch without requiring a PlayStation account and would continue to work fine otherwise.
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn’t enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam’s “2 hours playtime = no refund” rule
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn’t enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam’s “2 hours playtime = no refund” rule
It was required from the start, why are buying something without knowing if it will even run first? Its hilarious the amount of people defending something that’s people’s own stupidity.
Quite the sad reflection of reality unfortunately.
Because if it doesn’t run, you won’t get 2 hours of playtime and steam will refund it. Stop defending corporate greed on a social media platform DESIGNED to get away from corporate greed.
I don’t have a PSN account. I was able to log in and play without using a PSN account. At no point was I told that a PSN account would be required to play. My very reasonable assumption. Is that the PSN account requirement was listed for crossplay, or managing socials with PS players. If the game had not worked from day one, or if I had been notified in the game that this was merely a temporary solution, and that I would be unable to play at all in the coming months, then I would have refunded without even trying.
So no, despite what the little label said, PSN account was not required to play the game. It worked fine without the PSN account.
In an ideal world, the requirement would be removed. Since the availability of the game has arbitrarily changed a lot in the last 2 days, Sony should at least offer full refunds and an apology to the community.
I don’t need to make an excuse. You’re making excuses, even more pathetic, you’re making excuses for a megacorp trying to datamine their customers by changing the conditions for use of the game that they already bought.
I played the game without a PSN account, along with most of the HD2 community, and I was happy with the content, which in no way relied on having a PSN account. I don’t have one. I played the game. Therefore, it was not required, regardless of what the store blurb said. I got exactly one notice to link a PSN account, which I skipped, it was a skippable thing, meaning was not required. When I skipped the PSN account, it took me straight to the game. There was no notice that it would be required to link at a later date.
If no one has told you yet, you have an amazing tongue. Your capability to lick boots and kiss ass is unparalleled. Shame that Sony won’t notice your efforts here either.
Nah brother. Because it’s in the TOS doesn’t make it OK, and in some cases, even legally enforceable.
Why are you sticking up for some arbitrary shitty corporate decision and feel the need to shift the blame to people who bought, and now supposedly OWN, the game?
I can respect it if you’re doing it for money, we all gotta eat. But if it’s for free, you’re just an ass
You’re playing on Sonys servers, they need a way to enforce a ban when you are a dick. On steam if they ban your account, you make a new one, and family share the game bypassing the ban.
This is Sonys servers, it’s their rules, no different than needing a Steam account to play Steam games. This isn’t something out of the ordinary….
I’m not sticking up for or defending anything, people are just too fucking stupid to read requirements before buying things, and now you being just as stupid defending the stupid people doing this lmfao.
It’s Sonys servers, of course it requires an account….
What? Sony can only ban a steam id, how’s Sony supposed to know you’re family sharing to another account? And you don’t need to buy a new game to family share, that’s the entire issue.
You can bypass banning without linked accounts due to steams policies, maybe if steam would issue a vac ban for a sony ban, but people would be even more up in arms about that.
Back when the new family sharing rules came out, I remember reading something about how developers could opt out of family sharing. That’s what I was referencing.
So the only way to ban dicks is for them to have a PSN account? That ain’t it my brother.
Wow… how do they ban all your other accounts unless steam vac bans you for a Sony ban? Don’t you think that would be an entire other issue…? Get your steam if banned, make a new account and family share it, bypassing Sonys ban with now way of the knowing…. Yeah that’s a fucking problem.
Sony servers, sure, just release a server binary, let others host it and offload all infrastructure costs! Massive savings!
Uhhh… you understand the concept of this game… yeah…?
Don’t suck corporate ass man, cmon.
You couldn’t be making a bigger idiot of yourself right now.
I’d be interested to know if that’s Sony or steams mistake selling them in those markets. Or isn’t that developer controlled? So maybe the devs fucked up by not restricting the sales, they said they knew about Sonys requirements.
It specifically says on the steam purchase page it is required. It specifically says on Sony’s website that ps plus is required for ps5, and if you click on pc it just provides a link to steam. Nowhere do I see it even mentions needing or not needing a psn account on sony’s website.
Directly from Sony. It may be required for certain modes or features. Not for the entire game to function. Even the EULA that you agree to for the game says nothing about requiring a PSN account.
I still don’t know why you’re so determined to back Sony on their bullshit that is anti-consumer, and is actively harming the gaming community.
Lol. So it doesn’t say you don’t need a psn account.
They paid to publish the game, bro. They said you have to have a psn ID from the get go. Anyone getting pissed about it is just what? Mad at themselves for ignoring the big bronze colored warning on the store page? It wasn’t hidden.
Is the entire game a mode or feature? If it’s not then you can fuck off with that argument that it doesn’t say you don’t need it. If you’re a Sony PR person you’re bad at it. And if you’re not, then you have a weird obsession with siding with shitty corporate behavior.
Its not simply because it’s something “Easy”. Its because people are sick and tired of not owning what we buy. I’m not sure why you would want to defend someone who would happily take everything they could away from you, and actively do via your rights and digital privacy.
The last two were because Sony was storing personal data. This store made them a target.
Like the personal data they require when you sign up to PSN to play Helldivers 2.
If they don’t collect data, they wouldn’t be such a juicy target. So, yes, it is partly their own fault because they took the known risk of storing personal information.
They played with fire and got burned … more than once.
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