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intensely_human ,

So where is 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍?

pro_grammer OP ,

🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍 is everywhere <3

clb92 ,

Between Nepal and Nigeria, it seems.

KairuByte ,

Someone didn’t realize Niger isn’t an offensive word.

HumbleFlamingo ,

No, racists can’t spell so steam has to censor both of them. :-/

pingveno ,

Or they were using Niger as a way to say the other word.

SuddenDownpour ,

Andorra

Someone must stop this cruel oppression against the ethnic group of influencers.

AlexisFR ,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Why are there so many overseas territories in there? No wonder so many people are pissed off

Numenor ,

The combined estimated total population of those countries would be roughly around 4.6 to 4.7 billion people.

Jolteon ,

So, literally more than half the world.

jol ,

But corporations see $$ so it’s the half of the world that isn’t important.

SuddenDownpour ,

After taking a look at the map, this sounds very, VERY off.

Brosplosion ,

Only off about 3 billion or so, not that far!

elrik ,

Right? I was too lazy to double check, but yeah, the original claim seems absurd considering it’s missing at least the top 5 most populated countries representing nearly 4 billion people.

Numenor ,

Hehehe

ChrisHatesGeese ,

Counterpoint: no it isn’t.

Donebrach , (edited )
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

Can we get a similar map of Helldivers 2 players, based on location, prior to the change?

spirinolas ,

Isn’t this illegal according to EU law? It’s a common market but the Baltic states are excluded.

FluffyPotato ,

Yes it is

AlexisFR ,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Overseas territories like French Guyana too. It’s fully part of France so you can’t exclude it like that.

spirinolas ,

It’s not even an overseas territory, it’s a full-fledged department of France. They couldn’t exclude it even if they wanted. And it’s not excluded in the map, if you look closely, even while Guyana and Surinam are.

Got_Bent ,

I don’t know what a PSN account is, but I’m surprised you can get one in North Korea.

ILikeBoobies ,

Sony Account (PlayStation Network account)

TheWolfOfSouthEnd ,

I’ve always wondered how much we are lied to about North Korea.

CaptnNMorgan ,

I would imagine, very little

jaybone ,

I’m not a big gamer so I’m not entirely getting this. It sounds like the issue is they want you to link your steam and PSN accounts, which people don’t want to do. And in some countries it’s even a TOS violation.

My question is, why would they have such a requirement to link the two accounts in the first place?

Zoot , (edited )
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

One RUMOR I’ve heard is so it looks like more people are registering with PSN, to make up for loss of PS sales? Doesn’t make the most sense, but I’m sure its a mixture of that and your data $$$

Edit: I’m sure they are using the increase of accounts to make theirs elves look more favorable. All around, it’s shitty, and helldivers will suffer for it. Steam has already allowed refunds from countries that can no longer play.

kerrigan778 ,

That would be pretty obvious fraud, I doubt that.

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

Which part? I’m sure it would be fraud to pad their numbers that way. Unless they used a seperate metric which looked favorable to shareholders since number of accounts goes up.

The data part I don’t think you meant to cast doubt on, thats a given.

kerrigan778 ,

I meant padding their numbers like that yes.

Heavybell , (edited )
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

The legitimate reason is for crossplay. Sony said in the announcement it was for player “protection”, so they could ban people. Plus there is no doubt some data tracking going on.

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

But cross-platform worked just fine before this requirement? Or atleast well enough, I’ve been playing with a PS4 friend for the last month.

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

Did it? I stand corrected, then.

Draedron ,

The publishet is Sony. This way Sony can harvest your data and has total control over bans. If they didnt force the links bans for pc players would go through steam and could be challenged over steam in the case of an unfair ban.

AlexisFR ,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

The only data they can get is what you already share in game. And a little portion of what is on Steam.

MeetInPotatoes ,

You obviously have to give them whatever data is required for a PSN account. You could give them fake personal data of course, but good luck remembering your fake info if you ever need to reset your password.

KairuByte ,

That isn’t how bans work at all. The only bans which go through steam are VAC bans, and those are not a requirement.

MeetInPotatoes ,

You’re mistaken. If they make you log into PSN to play the game, then being banned via PSN would also lock you out of the game.

KairuByte ,

That isn’t what they are saying. They claim Sony needs PSN for the game in order to enforce a ban, otherwise it has to go through Steam.

AlexisFR ,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

It’s a Sony online game and it shouldn’t have worked without an account in first place on PC. But they allowed it regardless due to server issues.

monsterpiece42 ,

It explicitly said you do not need a PSN account to play, in a number of places. Both on the game page, on the Sony FAQ page, and the Steam page too I believe.

It was bait and switch, which is why so many people are upset.

IvanOverdrive ,

For me, it was the 2011 Playstation Hack.

Credit card data was encrypted, but Sony admitted that other user information was not encrypted at the time of the intrusion.

After that, I swore I would never give a corporation that lax with personal information my own.

unreasonabro ,

lmao Niger is blocked out

internet censorship is fucking retarded

7heo ,

Yeah, ♡♡♡♡♡ian princes will be mad disappointed.

BTW, cool meta-use of removed internet censorship to illustrate your point.

spraynpray ,

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    7heo ,

    Oh, I thought they wrote the *removed* text verbatim… My bad.

    KairuByte ,

    I’d have thought the same, I wasn’t aware instances had word level removal in place.

    shotgun_crab ,

    I’m surprised Nigeria survived the censor

    mlg ,
    @mlg@lemmy.world avatar

    Wasn’t Valve the one who pointed out that Russia was always pirating games not because they were inherently pirates but because the game releases had zero support for Russia lol. Hence why Valve was the first foreign developer/publisher that gained an actual foothold in the Russian market.

    This is kind of like the same thing. Sony will just say something dumb like “we don’t allow PSN accounts in these countries because they’re full of pirates”.

    RIP_Cheems ,
    @RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    They’re about to be full of pirates.

    GTG3000 ,

    That rings true for me. Only stopped pirating once steam was an option, myself.

    Zuberi ,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    100% true. India is (or was?) also big for games just not being sold there.

    Game companies shooting themselves in the foot? Never heard of it.

    snowadv ,

    The second problem is absence of regional prices in other markets but Steam.

    They are selling games two (!!) or so times cheaper in RU region. For example, AAA game might cost 60 dollars or 6000 rub in US but it will costs 35 or 3500 rub in russian steam.

    Even though I couldn’t afford games in the past and pirated them - at some point I started buying stuff just because it gives much better, hustle -free experience.

    KairuByte ,

    If I’m low on cash, I pirate. When I have cash, I buy up the games I want. If it’s a game I enjoyed years ago and it’s on sale, I grab it.

    The idea that piracy results in lost sales is flawed. No one I know who pirates can purchase the game to begin with.

    Is a library piracy? No? Cool, discussion over.

    localhost443 , (edited )

    I often took the same approach back when buying a game was a financial consideration. But even though now 4/5 times I already know hat I’m buying and just pay, there are still the 1/5 times I’ll pirate first as I’m really on the fence. Due to this I have a few games I ended up completing on pirate, but bought the game (and DLC if relevant) with 0 hours in my library because good work deserves recognition.

    Otherwise we risk losing those good developers to other careers or into the AAA meat grinder.

    For clarity I’m talking Indy titties here, I doubt I average much above 0.5/year AAA purchases anymore

    Edit: actually I’ll go one step further. If I pirate your game and hate it, then its delete and forget. If I buy your game and hate it that’s a potential negative review, maybe even though me and that title we just a bad fit. This is why demos need to become ubiquitous again

    chiliedogg ,

    I mean… Saying that it doesn’t result in lost sales at all is disingenuous.

    They aren’t losing 70 dollars for every download, but they also aren’t losing zero.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    why is one of them censored

    trafficnab ,

    Niger is close to a slur and is probably overwhelmingly used as a way to bypass filters as opposed to actually taking about the African country

    KillingTimeItself ,

    what a funny way to racism other people. “you’re just like a random country from that one place in the world”

    Silentiea ,
    @Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Tbf, the racists wouldn’t see a shred of irony in that statement.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    probably fair lmao

    absentbird ,
    @absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

    That makes a lot of sense, that’s exactly where it would be in the alphabetical list too.

    unreasonabro ,

    Because, i don’t know if you heard, but it’s Niger and people are too fucking retarded.

    Felipe ,

    My brothers and sisters in San Marino will have to make that long trek to Italy, sad.

    irmoz ,

    Why can’t these countries get accounts? And what was the controversy?

    TheMightyCanuck ,
    @TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Game is locked to PSN account system now so if you live somewhere with no PSN support, tough shit

    FrostKing ,

    What’s this controversy?

    ichbinjasokreativ ,

    Helldivers 2 suddenly won’t let you play the game if you don’t connect your Playstation account

    MIDItheKID ,

    For Playstation users? Or like, if you are on PC/Steam you need to make a Playstation account?

    ichbinjasokreativ ,

    On steam

    MIDItheKID ,

    Oh… Wow… That’s bullshit.

    umbraroze ,

    I’m in Finland and peering toward Estonia and wondering what the heck did they do to annoy Sony so much that you can’t make a PSN account there.

    My instant guess would be that Estonians are in possession of a Sony tape deck from the 1980s that still works (being a Sony product from the 1980s), and Sony is like “No! We refuse to do business there until they join the modern time planned obsolescence club.”

    Taleya ,

    Liechtenstein as well lol

    hglman ,

    Probably Sony won’t comply with some sort of regulation.

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