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roguetrick , in List of countries that cannot make a PSN account, following the Helldivers 2 controversy.

Everyone always forgets about Suriname.

sverit , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
Godnroc ,

Data is beautiful.

dukatos , in List of countries that cannot make a PSN account, following the Helldivers 2 controversy.

Serbia is not on the list?! Impossible!

ocassionallyaduck , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

Lol, it’s still got hundreds of thousands playing.

Theres some angry outrage for sure, but it don’t think it’s gonna wind up that bad in the end.

It’s annoying, but it’s like an Origin account for an EA game or something. At least with crossplay, having one admin team to manage bans on both platforms makes sense to streamline things.

NecroParagon ,

I know. I’m going to be playing tonight. I didn’t bat an eye at this announcement… Mainly because it’s been known since day one. People are acting like this is new information. And I don’t care if less people play. Still will have plenty of players. I play with cross play turned off on PS5 to avoid cheaters anyway… so this literally isn’t going to change anything for me.

They already sold many times more than they ever expected.

sasquash , in List of countries that cannot make a PSN account, following the Helldivers 2 controversy.

Pretty sure it’s possible in Liechtenstein, Andorra and Monaco

psmgx , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

no shit a bunch of my friend picked it up last month and were bugging me to buy it and join them. I get paid today and had planned on buying this weekend.

but I ain’t got a playstation or PSN account so ima hold off. im not sure all of my friends do either, for that matter. back to modded CP2077 it is!

Rai ,

I’m like an hour in… mod reccos?

Zahille7 ,

I haven’t played with mods myself, but one I’d recommend would be a third-person camera mod, and maybe one that lets you customize vehicles.

psycho_driver , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

DOWN WITH SNOY!

adam_y , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Hypetrain game + publisher shenanigans… Pretty sure I’ve heard this one before.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

At least the hype train was built on its merit and not an ad campaign.

adam_y ,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Was it though? It was full steam ahead even in the early days when the servers were overwhelmed in what seemed like a classic case of the dishoom effect.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fine game, but I think folk got carried away.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

I guess what I am saying is it was organic. Cyberpunk and many other games that are hyped are hyped because of marketing campaigns done by the the studio. People get the game, it sucks, and people are mad.

This game just existed, the community decided it was awesome and got their friends to get in on it and so on. It blew up because it was fun to play and the the devs weren’t shitbags. The devs didn’t expect it to blow up the way it did, thats why the servers sploded.

This game blew up organically, due to players experience. I am still having a blast

Bougie_Birdie , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
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I remember when it came out people were saying it’s anti-cheat was basically malware. Denuvo, I think?

Anyway, it’s disappointing because I hear it’s a truly great game. But between this and that, I think I’m soured on the idea of playing.

Aphelion , (edited )

An hour after this announcement was made, a tiny update was pushed via GamGuard to steam players and now there’s a .DLL file that’s being flagged by antivirus as a malware. My AV detects and cleans the file, making the game completely broken. There a Steam discussion about this issue and, surprise surprise, the file in question is used by GameGuard.

I’m sure it has nothing to do with Sony’s recent announcement of their patent for biometric harassment detection.

xilliah ,

They’d ban themselves lol

Delusional ,

That’s exactly why I purchased the game on ps5 instead of PC. And now I also don’t have to worry about this issue.

Bougie_Birdie ,
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Well that might work, if I had a PS5 laying about.

chetradley ,

Good for you? The post isn’t about people like us playing on PlayStation, it’s about people like my buddies I play with that thought they were good to go with their steam accounts and are now being railroaded a few months later by having to give their data to PSN, who is notorious for not managing said data well.

“It’s in the ToCs”, you might say, which is only highlighting a broader issue where you basically have to wade through pages of legal bullshit to just play a game you bought and not get fucked by the EULA.

bastion ,

Well said.

50_centavos , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

“Term of service”? Shmerms of shmervice. Fuck all the way off, there’s a hundred other games that we can be playing.

Klanky , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
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Hopefully soon no one will care about this game and it’ll stop clogging up my RSS and Lemmy feeds. 😆

LoamImprovement ,

I mean, hopefully Sony reverses course on this decision and we can go back to playing a good game. What you describe is the most likely outcome.

Rai ,

I want both of your things to be true. What I want most is for them to remove the horrid anti-cheat AND account issues which is never going to happen, so I’ll never be able to play. But that’s okay. I bet it’s super fun, though.

Beefytootz , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

I’m bummed I missed my window to return it through steam. I downloaded it, gave it a couple tries and just couldn’t figure out what I was supposed to be doing or when the fun was supposed to start. I couldn’t figure out how to play with other people or what guns I was supposed to use against whatever enemy. None of it made sense and seemed like it was all just hype with no substance. It’s still in my library, but I don’t think it’ll ever get a reinstall. I wish I could just gift it to someone else

hobovision ,

Have you tried watching any videos that explain how to play or talking to anyone in your squad when you play online? It’s a game meant to be played as co-op, not really solo.

Assuming you aren’t trolling… If you want to try again, how to play with others is really simple. In the world map, you can press “R” to quick play and it will put you in a mission with a couple people in it. You can also throw a SOS during the mission (idk if it works if you set matchmaking to friends only in settings, try making it public).

Beefytootz ,

I watched a few gameplay videos, but nothing educational. I was just looking for a demo to see what it played like and figured the game would guide me the rest of the way. I’m being completely honest, I never figured out how to play with anyone else. I went to the main room, picked my mission, shot down by myself and died repeatedly. I never thought to try the quick play option. I promise I’m not trolling or trying to yuck anyone else’s yum, I just don’t think I’m made for the game or the game is made for me.

I definitely appreciate the info you gave me. If I ever do decide to give it another shot, I’ll keep that information in mind, but I don’t think that’ll be happening anytime soon. I’ve got plenty of other games in my library to keep me busy without this weird learning curve

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Unfortunately it’s one of many games that you’re supposed to spend your time researching on YouTube and scrolling on Twitter to understand. There’s even a tutorial but it’s basically nothing beyond basic movement mechanics.

inclementimmigrant , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly

Look, I got hit with that stupid 2011 data breach PSN had and I still get scam emails with details from that due to the unique stuff I put in my various accounts. I’m not going to try to resurrect my now defunct account or create a new one so they can do more data mining and lose more of my PII, again.

frauddogg , in Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
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Immediate uninstall; really grateful my copy was a gift so I lost nothing. I’m not setting up another fuckin account for just one fuckin game and I really fuckin wish publishers would KNOCK THAT BULLSHIT OFF

GeekFTW , in what's going on with helldivers?

The tl;dr seems to be:

After such and such date (end of the month I think? Sometime soon either way) you will be required to sign in with a PSN account in order to play. Some say this was not advertised when the game launched, some say it was (I believe people found wayback machine captures that say it was but I may be wrong. Some people don’t want this, some countries aren’t allowed to sign up for PSN accounts outright (and if they have Helldivers 2 they would then be losing access technically).

Sony offered up the usual explanation of security and whatnot, which most aren’t accepting that as Valve/VAC do the job of security, leading most to assume it’s a way for Sony to gather more info and data from customers which they can then sell or otherwise market somehow.

Overall souring people on the whole situation of a bit of a bait-and-switch.

Montagge ,

If Sony cared about security they wouldn’t require you to install a rootkit anticheat to play the game

GeekFTW ,

Sony: The reason I stopped at the PS4 lol.

Rentlar ,

I was honestly not too personally bothered at first, since the change might not affect me. Still, when I found out others might be screwed by Sony when PSN is enforced, I stand in solidarity with them.

Additionally, Sony says that PSN isn’t required to play PlayStation games on PC: From Steam Keys that were purchasable directly from Sony:

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