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Aristoxene ,

Well… Earth Defense Force 6 is coming.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Some countries like Ukraine are told that they need a console to make an account, you can’t make this shit up lmao

merthyr1831 ,

It’s no accident that many of these games are releasing their anti-features only after millions have purchased them and missed their return window.

EA did the same recently with Kernel anti-cheat in games they haven’t serviced in years, games that actively cannibalise their latest titles!

Less players means less server running costs. Helldivers 2 might turn back or end up with this disastrous policy (for consumers) but until we have regulations on this, many companies will see the benefit of rugpulling software.

barooboodoo ,

Supposedly steam is allowing returns no matter the playtime.

merthyr1831 ,

that’s good, surprising though because technically it’s not their policy

joe_cool ,

I guess they don’t like being sued. And I think they will just take the money for the refunds from Sony’s payout.

Gobbel2000 ,
@Gobbel2000@programming.dev avatar

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game on Steam with “Overwhelmingly Negative” reviews before. Usually “Mixed” is already a good indicator to leave your hands off a game.

Saledovil ,

That’s because there’s a review count requirement for both the extremely good and the extremely negative level. So you can’t buy your own game, review it, and have it be overwhelmingly positive because the only review is positive. Thing is, bad games tend to not get bought by many people, so overwhelmingly negative is rare. So yes, mixed reviews are already damming.

dlpkl ,

still enjoying it lol

SmilingSolaris ,

You know your not being snarky big dev defender saying this right? You are aware the actual devs, the creators of the game have asked people to review bomb it. This is the major order right now. It’s to give the devs leverage to get Sony to back the fuck off.

Omniraptor ,

Do you have a source on the devs endorsing review bombing for leverage? I only see posts about the CEO apologizing for the policy.

LordKitsuna ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/af60f785-53c0-4345-b28f-92c429d9e1cf.jpeg

Draedron ,

Spitz is also the pos who told people to just refund and leave. Now they wre doing damage control acting like they are on the players side. The devs are not the good guys here just smart enough to act like they are

Rakonat ,

Did you read the comment? He told them to refund it if they are unhappy because the review scores and revenue are all sony sees or cares about

dlpkl ,

I really couldn’t care. It’s as easy as using making an account. People really have nothing else better to do with their lives. In fact, most people do, that’s why steam charts haven’t reflected any change.

ysjet ,

You realize about 1/3 of all players physically cannot make a PSN account, right? This isn’t just ‘gamers having nothing better to do with their lives’, it’s an actual legal and economic issue.

dlpkl ,

VPNs are free and easy to make, and where did you get 1/3 of all players?

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Another victory lap for patient gamers.

There is a lifetime of content to consume without taking video games or the internet into account. You are optional.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I was waiting until some sort of offline mode since I’ve been burned by The Crew, I don’t think it’s happening considering how anal they are being about a PSN account.

threeduck ,

But if you were impatient and played it on release you could have played it without requiring a PSN account.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

And now they would need to fight for a refund, only some people got it, others are on their 5th try.

nevetsg ,

I just started BioShock Infinite. I am only a few years behind.

TonyTonyChopper ,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

Bioshock Infinite is 11 years old

nevetsg ,

Pretty fun so far. Bonus, it runs at 4k 144fps highest graphics.

iegod ,

Patient gaming is great for single player games. Not so much for live service.

Syltti ,

You say that, but it clearly worked here. And, for live service games in general, playing The Waiting Game™ lets you see how bullshit said live service ends up becoming after a awhile.

sverit ,

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/f0445c9a-aced-4500-bf64-053bf0395d41.png

Godnroc ,

Data is beautiful.

reksas ,

I sure am happy i didnt buy this earlier because of the enforced rootkit.

Silentiea ,

Honestly there were a few reasons I didn’t get it, but I’ll say the rootkit was a big one.

kaputter_Aimbot ,

Kernel Level Anti Cheat… In a co-op game!?

Why they did this is beyond me! 😔

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no! Billy cheated his way to a new cape!! 🙄

It really is quite silly. There aren’t even leaderboards or anything

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Billy cheating made you unlock everything in 1 too, that’s their reasoning at least.

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

And fair enough, but you need to install a rootkit on my machine so Billy can’t get me a new cape?!

bhamlin ,

Lies!

It was a silly hat.

joe_cool ,

It’s doubly puzzling, because that component is just disabled on Linux and Steamdeck.

Buddahriffic ,

Yeah, that had me already decided that if I did get it, it would be on ps5 not pc. Though this move will probably make me do that in general for any ps exclusive game they make a pc port of.

Shape4985 , (edited )
@Shape4985@lemmy.ml avatar

Mainly micro transactions. Though its not as bad as other games i don’t agree with them being in games that cost money. If they are going to be added i think the game should be free. Its mainly a critique of online gaming in its current state.

The gameplay was not my kind of game but that’s more of a personal preference than it being a bad game. I watched a ton of gameplay and had friends stream it to me and it looked very dull. He came across a lot of bugs while playing too such as clipping through the map forcing him to restart the entire mission.

papertowels ,

Worth pointing out that you can find in game premium currency

Shape4985 ,
@Shape4985@lemmy.ml avatar

I know but id prefer it not being there to begin with as its a slippery slope. Its much more fun to earn loot than grind for coins or pay for them to get the skin.

EncryptKeeper ,

The micro-transactions barely exist and was easy be bought with premium currency found in the game. There are paid battle passes but none of the items within give you much of an edge over anyone else, and those battle passes also award premium currency which can be used to buy the next battle pass. They’re not timed, either. You can buy one battle pass and sit in it for a year before completing it.

As far as MTX go, they’re the most inoffensive I’ve ever seen in a game.

Shape4985 ,
@Shape4985@lemmy.ml avatar

I understand. I just prefer them to not be there at all. Ill only buy extra in a game if its in the form of a dlc that adds great content for example the following dlc for dying light or liberty city stories for GTA 4. Buying weapons and cosmetic feels cringe to me

EncryptKeeper ,

I mean you don’t have to spend any money on them. You can buy them with currency you earn in game.

NecroParagon ,

These are the least offensive micro transactions I’ve seen in a game lol. And people calling a $40 game expensive is funny.

Sir_Fridge ,

Did anyone actually have to log in? I played yesterday without having to add a sony account, neither did my friends.

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

D-day is next month.

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

May the refunds be ever in your favor.

“Uhhh acktuallay on page 420 of the Terms Of Service it says you have to suck my dick and you get no right to a refund!”

fatalicus ,

If you actually read the announcement, it very clearly says that new players need a PSN account from may 6th, and existing players from may 30th.

GoodEye8 ,

From Monday you will be bombarded with the PSN requirement for a month and then you won’t be able to play without a PSN account.

Psythik ,

When I bought the game it wouldn’t let me play without creating an account, and that was over a month ago. I guess the requirement is only just now rolling out for the majority of players?

Sir_Fridge ,

It said it required an account but you could just click next

Kazumara ,

Sony has a record of not respecting its workers, users or consumers.

2005 Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal

2011 PlayStation Network hack

2014 Sony Pictures hack

Now they want more userdata and kernel level anticheat. Surely there is no way for this to backfire

shasta ,

You missed some firewalltimes.com/sony-data-breach-timeline/

lud ,

Is the last two their fault? They were attacked.

Isoprenoid ,

The last two were because Sony was storing personal data. This store made them a target.

Like the personal data they require when you sign up to PSN to play Helldivers 2.

If they don’t collect data, they wouldn’t be such a juicy target. So, yes, it is partly their own fault because they took the known risk of storing personal information.

They played with fire and got burned … more than once.

Source: www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/privacy-policy/

ocassionallyaduck ,

Lol, it’s still got hundreds of thousands playing.

Theres some angry outrage for sure, but it don’t think it’s gonna wind up that bad in the end.

It’s annoying, but it’s like an Origin account for an EA game or something. At least with crossplay, having one admin team to manage bans on both platforms makes sense to streamline things.

NecroParagon ,

I know. I’m going to be playing tonight. I didn’t bat an eye at this announcement… Mainly because it’s been known since day one. People are acting like this is new information. And I don’t care if less people play. Still will have plenty of players. I play with cross play turned off on PS5 to avoid cheaters anyway… so this literally isn’t going to change anything for me.

They already sold many times more than they ever expected.

psycho_driver ,

DOWN WITH SNOY!

ErinCrush ,

Deserved. It’s just not necessary. Think, why would a multi-billion dollar company want you to sign up for some other service, even if it’s free? Because they want your data, and they want to sell it.

Cethin ,

Theoretically their community management tools are based on PSN, which does make some sense. This is the official reason for it. Of course they’re also hoovering up all your data to sell also. That’s the reason that gives them more money, so the real reason.

TheHooligan95 ,

I mean, it IS their own game. Let’s not be disingenuous, they would be doing the same even if it was Steam data.

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

If only there was a digital bill of rights that applied to all tech companies that would make the selling of data illegal.

Nah, sounds difficult. let’s just ban ticktok for my lobbyist buddy.

50_centavos ,

“Term of service”? Shmerms of shmervice. Fuck all the way off, there’s a hundred other games that we can be playing.

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