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Wilziac , in Johnson & Johnson sues Biden administration over Medicare drug price negotiations

Can’t the government see that if they allow people to get life saving drugs for slightly less money, then the pharmaceutical CEOs will only be able to buy a 53-foot yacht before the next regatta? They’ll be laughing stocks! (/s just in case)

But seriously, fuck all corporate greed, but especially fuck corporations that keep people sick.

JustZ ,
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I’ve sued insurance companies and to hear some of those insurance defense lawyers talk about they race yachts for fun is nauseous. Like, my client is in the next room and will never work their shitty manual labor job. They sound sociopathic. Gold coast mf’rs. Probably delicious salted.

Metaright , in A 12-year-old is facing charges for allegedly throwing acid on an 11-year-old girl at a Detroit playground, officials say
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I feel like we live in a third-world country.

Creyapnilla ,
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A third-world country with casual access to caustic chemicals ☝️😌

Lifecoach5000 ,

Yeah what kind of acid can a kid get that does shit like this??

SheeEttin ,

Some kind of cleaning product maybe? Or something stolen from chemistry class?

nuachtan ,

The local article says the 12 year old’s mother gave it to her in a bottle. The article also describes the substance as a “weapon”.

520 ,

Battery acid can do the trick

Blamemeta ,

Cleaning products. Car batteries. Its not hard.

exohuman ,
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They should go after the adults with important questions about why she had access to such an acid.

WadeTheWizard ,
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Most people probably have drain cleaner stashed somewhere in their house under a sink somewhere. This isn't exactly one of those situations where a kid finds a loaded gun in their parent's unlocked nightstand.

TenderfootGungi ,

Probably, but do we know that?

Tygr , in Woman gored by Bison at Yellowstone

You couldn’t pay me to be a ranger there. I’ve been to Yellowstone 10 times and every single time there’s always a bunch of people crowding around wild animals. I’m honestly surprised this doesn’t happen weekly.

TransplantedSconie , in 16 false Trump electors face felony charges in Michigan

Lmao. 16 assholes about to get a big government dicking. Those forgery charges are 14 years a pop lol.

MegaUltraChicken ,

The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.

lasagna ,
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I need to find a way to make this a common saying in my life.

rabirabirara ,

This comment is straight out of Megamind (adult edition) and I love it.

ArbiterXero ,

……Is that a real thing?

rabirabirara ,

Not in the slightest.

ArbiterXero ,

That’s kinda a shame, because now I can only read it in mega mind’s voice…

Godric ,

I read that in Ben Cafferty’s voice from Veep

Hextic ,

I wish. All get slaps on the wrist. Calling it now.

JusticeForPorygon , in Texas troopers told to push back migrants into Rio Grande River and ordered not to give water amid soaring temperatures, report says
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We Americans have always been known to treat our migrants with the upmost respect. As soon as they get here they’re sent to meet the Vice President!

/s if it wasn’t clear

TwoGems , in 16 false Trump electors face felony charges in Michigan
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<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">Kathy Berden, 70, of Snover 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">William (Hank) Choate, 72, of Cement City 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Amy Facchinello, 55, of Grand Blanc 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Clifford Frost, 75, of Warren 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Stanley Grot, 71, of Shelby Township 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">John Haggard, 82, of Charlevoix 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Mary-Ann Henry, 65, of Brighton 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Timothy King, 56, of Ypsilanti 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Michele Lundgren, 73, of Detroit 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Meshawn Maddock, 55, of Milford
</span><span style="color:#323232;">James Renner, 76, of Lansing 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Mayra Rodriguez, 64, of Grosse Pointe Farms 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Marian Sheridan, 69, of West Bloomfield 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Ken Thompson, 68, of Orleans 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Kent Vanderwood, 69, of Wyoming 
</span>

lol it’s all boomers and cusp Gen X/boomer

catsarebadpeople ,

OLDS! THEY’RE OLD

Harpuajim ,

Prime age to get their information from Facebook.

gAlienLifeform OP ,
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

Probably not a great age to be starting a fourteen year prison sentence at, but they should have thought about that before trying to overthrow our democracy I guess

Nollij ,

Is there a great age to do that? Seems to me that the older you are, the less of your real life is lost.

TwoGems ,
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Cosmonauticus ,

To be fair the first two generations in this meme were raging alcoholics who beat the shit out of their kids and wives. Oh and the whole racists as fuck part.

Hextic ,

This same generation kept repeating shit like “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” back in the dial up days. Good advice I took to heart.

Now my own mother believes AOC wants to ban cows because they fart a lot.

WarmSoda ,

Not even the Internet. They told everyone not to believe everything they see on TV. Drilled it into our heads for years.

Now they’re plastered to the easychair, glued to fox bobblehead shows 24/7 getting angry over nonsense.

But the Simpsons and rock music were the devil…

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Went from “stay in school” to “schools are wokist brainwashing centers run by child abusers and socialists and it’s child abuse to send them there.”

Fucking morons.

Boddhisatva ,

Sadly, they'll all be found guilty but too old and white to actually go to prison for their crimes.

Tedesche ,

Beat me to it. This is exactly what I think will happen.

pozbo ,
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In cases such as this it would be amazing to bar them from having funerals.

“You’re too old to sit in a cell, so we’re just not going to ever lay you to rest”

Maybe it would help these criminals think about ramifications before committing their heinous offenses.

Stovetop ,

That’s actually an interesting idea. For high crimes committed by the elderly, sentence them to be de-memorialized. Their remains are interred only in a space-efficient public cemetery. They get no headstone, just a small post in the ground with a number on it to mark where they were buried, surrounded by hundreds of other posts.

Every year, the family of the deceased must pay a fee to maintain the site, or else the remains will be disinterred and disposed of so the plot can be recycled.

For the elderly criminal, they die knowing that they will either be forgotten by relatives who don’t care about them, or burdening their relatives who do care about them with annual fees.

mycroft ,

That’s basically a prison graveyard, they’re on prison property and no one can visit…

Stovetop , (edited )

I’m assuming people can still visit in this scenario. They just get a number on the headstone instead of the name. The family can be told that is grandpa and they can visit, and if they care enough to visit and keep the plot, that might encourage them to pay for what essentially amounts to financial compensation for grandpa’s crimes.

mycroft ,

In cases such as this it would be amazing to bar them from having funerals.

“You’re too old to sit in a cell, so we’re just not going to ever lay you to rest”

Maybe it would help these criminals think about ramifications before committing their heinous offenses.

Oh come now, we have much worse punishments: they’re now under conservatorship, by Britney Spears dad and are on their way to the cheapest old folks home in their state. They’re “technology safe” so they can’t access the internet for their own personal safety…

Ya know, old folks prison, where poor people go after their family forgets about them and they die of neglect.

teegus ,

Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw

Please tell me that is a real place

SoSquidTaste ,
gAlienLifeform OP ,
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JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Damn someone was just telling me I should plant paw paw trees the other day. Good fruit I guess?

mosiacmango ,

Supposed to be a flavor akin to a mix of banana and mango, so maybe the best fruit possible.

DickFiasco ,

Have you ever noticed, when you hear a word for the first time, you will hear that word again within twenty-four hours?

drhugsymcfur ,

If you catch them ripe then they are a seedy soft banana with a different flavor. It’s so soft that the best way to eat it is with a spoon using the peel as a bowl.

But they have a very short window of ripeness, there’s a reason that they’re not commercially grown and it’s generally because of the short ripeness window and they’re easy to bruise during transport.

If you’ve got the space and the time go for it, it’s a fun little conversation starter to give family, neighbors, & coworkers something that they may not know grows right in their back woodlot.

PutangInaMo ,

Wow TIL. It sounds amazing, can’t believe I never thought to look for north American native fruits like this. Thanks for the info.

fubo ,

A pawpaw is a real fruit, related to the cherimoya.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina

FlyingSquid ,
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Michigan has a Hell, so there’s no reason it can’t have a Paw Paw.

Drunemeton ,
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I’ve been there. When it SNOWED!

FlyingSquid ,
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Did it freeze over?

Drunemeton ,
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It got a little moist, but we left before nightfall. (My mom, under no circumstances, was spending the night in Hell!)

FlyingSquid ,
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Here’s the most important question: Did they have a human-sized handbasket?

nuachtan ,

No, but they do have a country bar.

FuglyDuck ,
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well, not with kids in tow, certainly.

corsicanguppy ,

kids in tow

You see, she was already in hell ! :-D

TwoGems ,
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“Mooom! Paw paw from Paw paw’s trying to destroy our democracy again!”

Oderus ,

Can’t wait to see it all play out. You just know these people won’t accept responsibility and will blame others for their actions. I swear if they were 16-17 I wouldn’t be surprised but GOD DAMN, they’re all over 55 with 2 being over 80.

AssPennies ,

“We were just told to show up and sign this paper. If we had any information about it being untoward or illegal, we would not have done it”

That’s Ms. Michele Lundgren making excuses already. Like, you thought it was totally legal to pretend to be electors to subvert an election? Come on.

Oderus ,

We were just following orders … wait, where have I heard that before?

waigl ,

There are two people in there over 80, but the oldest baby boomers are “only” 77…

FlashMobOfOne ,
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No living wage, no money for education, no money for health care, working three jobs to survive, and the world temperature and scarcity of housing are accelerating…

…but sure, let’s celebrate. This totally matters.

Nollij ,

These are some of the people who fought to create those problems, including fighting against democracy itself to ensure it.

It’s not the end results needed, but it is a step on the path needed.

FlashMobOfOne ,
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It’s not the end results needed, but it is a step on the path needed.

No, it isn’t.

It’s nothing. This will change nothing, as evidenced by the fact that even when Trump is performatively “arrested” there’s never handcuffs of a mugshot.

Djtecha ,

OK… So they shouldn’t get arrested? Fuck it lets go full nihilism here. Nothing matters my man, so why bother even posting here?

FlashMobOfOne ,
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Of course they should.

I’m just years past pretending this is consequential, given that no one will go after any of the big fish in the pond. Can’t pretend we’re winning when we’re a year removed from reelecting a twice-impeached fascist.

Djtecha ,

There are about to be 3 independent indictments against trump. So they are going after the big fish here. No I understand your cynicism there until we actually see him get jail time and shows up for booking.

Cubes , (edited )

the fact that even when Trump is performatively “arrested” there’s never handcuffs of a mugshot.

What do you think the point of handcuffs and a mugshot are? He wasn’t at risk of being violent or arrested for a violent crime. Mugshots are for record keeping and identity purposes, but there is no need for that when the suspect is one of the most photographed people on the entire planet. Handcuffs and mugshots are not some weird way to humiliate people.

TwoGems ,
@TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

what?

danc4498 ,

All cocksuckers on Medicare and social security and probably bitching about socialism.

Mdotaut801 ,

And lick the boots of the military…which is socialized.

dhorse ,

I am pretty disappointed in the Gen X generation. I really thought we were going to be a lot more open minded and accepting of people than we have turned out to be.

stringere ,

Think of all the people you’ve known who were open minded and accepting and how small the number of them seemed compared to the majority when we were growing up. Know that a lot of those people probably went on to inspire those qualities in others and raise their kids to value those things. I’ve seen mainstream society come a long way from my childhood in the 80s and teens in the 90s.

I agree, I had a lot more hope for Gen X but we were up against the juggernaut of the boomer voting bloc. As those selfish fucks age out we’re finally looking at the possibility of righting the ship.

dhorse ,

I agree that we have come a LONG way. I was in the first generation of ravers. I am aghast at some of my fellow old ravers and how they scorn the LGBQT community considering they were that their bars were often the only place we were offered safety and respect. The motto these guys wore on their sleeves was PLUR - Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect, but now they are SLUR.

A surprising number of ravers compared to my other social circles have gone full conspiracy, MAGA cult, qANON. IMO it attracted a good number of contrarians, counter culture, anti government types in the first place and they were bound to get roped into something like this. I thought hare krishna type things, but boy was I wrong!

stringere ,

That’s sad to hear. I was in the same scene. Fortunately the raver friends that I still keep in touch with didn’t go down that road.

theneverfox ,

I realized that the other day. My brother is gen z, and when I felt him out on lgbt issues (he’s been raised in a very conservative bubble), he just doesn’t care.

Then I realized - millennials were raised by gen x. I got a lot of ideas shoved in my head growing that took some time to unravel after I started to examine if my beliefs matched my morals… I just assumed he’d be in a similar position. But he’s been taught by millennials and seen it in the media, he never learned those hang ups I had to get past

This weekend it hit me - Gen x is driving force behind all of this body autonomy bullshit

Stovetop ,

A lot of millennials were still raised by boomers. If you’re an early to mid millennial, you’re probably more likely to have been raised by boomers than gen X-ers, since the oldest gen X-ers would have only been like 15 years old at the start of the millennial generation.

In 1988 (the midpoint year for millennials), the average age of someone having their first child was 27, so most kids born that year were born to late boomers. Only towards the 90’s, the last third of millennials, would you start seeing more Gen X parents than boomers.

And if you were a second or third child in the millennial generation, your parents were more likely to be boomers than not, too.

el_cordoba ,

I blame dementia. I have a parent that’s still a Trump supporter. It’s as if they’ve lost the ability to use reason. I am pretty sure Trump could shoot them in the face and they’d still vote for/support him.

Arsenal4ever ,

He said in 2015 that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still love him. One thing I will say is that Trump realized he could easily grift people like your parent. I am sorry, BTW. It sucks.

sunbytes ,

There’s theories about the lead from leaded petrol doing a lot of brain damage before it was taken out.

JulesTheModest ,

Without looking, something like ppl born before 1980 or so. I really hope so, the following Gen (mine) isn’t as hot as I’d like but hoping for the best.

TwoGems ,
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There are some younger people just as far gone as them but there aren’t usually as many at Trump events

Mdotaut801 ,

Fuck boomers. Not literally, don’t fuck them….but FUCK THEM.

ChihuahuaOfDoom , in 16 false Trump electors face felony charges in Michigan

Good, fuck em.

agedbeef , in 16 false Trump electors face felony charges in Michigan

You love to see it.

gAlienLifeform OP ,
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About 30 months later than it should have happened, but late is better than never!

AFKBRBChocolate ,

Agreed, though it’s actually pretty fast for this kind of thing

gAlienLifeform OP ,
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Yeah, it’s totally normal for prosecutors to wait over two years to bring forgery charges and just let the suspects go about freely doing as they please that whole time, it’s not like anyone in recent history has been forcibly detained by a police officer and been suffocated to death by that officer’s knee being placed on their neck for an extended period of time after they tried to submit some dodgy paperwork or anything /s

Telodzrum ,

Yay deliberative prosecution and due process. Wait no, not for those people!

Nollij ,

For better or for worse, the judicial process in this country moves very slowly. The higher the stakes, the slower it moves. This is quite certainly a high-stakes case.

MicroWave OP , in Johnson & Johnson sues Biden administration over Medicare drug price negotiations
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President Joe Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act, which passed in 2022 by a narrow party-line vote, empowered Medicare to negotiate drug prices for the first time in the program’s six-decade history.

The provision aims to make drugs more affordable for older Americans but will likely reduce pharmaceutical industry profits.

TIEPilot , in ‘Your heart races a bit’: US weather man threatened with death for mentioning climate crisis

We’ve had an ice age.

What doesn’t say the orbit of the planet or its angle to the Sun can’t make the pendulum swing the other way?

I fine w/ going green, I wish we had more light rail in the US. It was nice when I worked in DC and got to read a book on the way into work. I was a hell of a lot more physically active.

FlyingSquid ,
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The orbit of the planet or the angle of the sun have nothing to do with it. The billions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane we pump into the atmosphere does.

Or do you think that has no effect? If so, I’d love you to explain to me about the chemical neutrality of CO2 and methane.

TIEPilot ,

But we came out of an ice age w/o as you say “billions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane we pump into the atmosphere does.”

Something changed.

FlyingSquid ,
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Temperature was going up gradually until the industrial revolution. Now it’s going up drastically. What changed is the amount of CO2 and methane we’re putting into the atmosphere.

Again, if you don’t agree, please explain how they are chemically neutral.

TIEPilot ,

So you admit that there outside factors that determine the temperature of the planet. Ok we are getting somewhere, and again I will reiterate I would like us to knock off pollution if we can do it sanely.

But what if the changes (outside man made) are exponential? As the the orbit changes or the tilt changes it goes up in orders of magnitude. Is this not possible? I work w/ spacecraft and orbits aren’t a constant. All matter/mass/celestial bodies in the solar system have gravitational influence and changes orbits.

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m waiting for you to explain how CO2 and methane are chemically neutral. Please do so. Otherwise they have an effect on the atmosphere.

TIEPilot ,

Methane and CO2 are naturally formed compounds and like any compound in the atmosphere they have an effect. I was talking out other outside forces that could be accelerating these changes.

FlyingSquid ,
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If they have an effect and we’re pumping tons of it into the atmosphere in a NOT natural way, then it sounds like that effect would be magnified greatly.

What effect do you think CO2 and methane have on our atmosphere?

TIEPilot ,

Again you are going off point, I posted could there be other factors? We got out of an ice age w/o human involvement as the Earth warmed, could there not be an exponential heating of the Earth that has nothing to do w/ co2/methane levels? Maybe this is the cycle of our planet.

FlyingSquid ,
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Nothing to do with it? Ok, then again, what effect does putting a lot of extra methane and CO2 have chemically on the atmosphere? What is the resulting reaction? Unless, again, they are chemically neutral.

TIEPilot ,

So you are saying that there is not any possible way there are outside forces that could be part of the problem? Solar flares disrupt communications, the Earth doesn’t have a perfect orbit, we know the Earth tilts in alignment to the Sun (seasons) and the magnetic poles have flipped a few time. We also know when massive event happen like plate tectonic shifts and volcano mass ejections can make the earth wobble. But naw they couldn’t be a factor, we just have one answer…

FlyingSquid ,
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No, I’m objecting to you suggesting that humans are not a factor. Without explaining the chemistry. I’m beginning to suspect you aren’t a climate scientist.

TIEPilot ,

Stop suggesting humans are the only factor. The fact you can’t accept that there are possibly other factors in play tells me you are also not a “climate scientist”. Something I never claimed to be, nor a chemist, so that’s a bit odd eh?

FlyingSquid ,
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Tell me what you think: Are humans a factor- yes or no?

And no, I am not a climate scientist. I merely defer to them. And almost all of them say that humans are the primary factor in climate change. You seem to think you know better, so having expert knowledge in that area would seem to be a prerequisite.

CmdrShepard ,

All your possible outside causes can easily be observed and measured by modern humans. What plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions are causing the current heating? If our orbit or tilt around the sun has changed, why don’t you think we’ve noticed that?

Cranakis ,

We have one answer that we have any control over. The rest is pretty irrelevant. What point are you trying to make? Just and academic one? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just who fucking cares?

tallwookie ,
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technically, we’ve been in an ice age for the last 2.5 million years or so. it just gets slightly warmer or colder every few 10000 years

MasterObee , in Illinois Supreme Court upholds end to cash bail; new system begins Sept. 18

The court’s decision today holds – as my office has consistently advocated – that the General Assembly had the authority to eliminate cash bail and replace it with a system in which people are detained pending trial only if they pose a threat to the public or are a flight risk.

I’m not too knowledgeable about how the system works, but isn’t this kind of what we did, just now without any requirement for bail?

This seems to remove the only encouragement to return to court without an appropriate replacement.

To my knowledge, I thought bail was basically a ‘loan’ that you get back when you return to court.

burningquestion , (edited )

No, if you skip hearings for a criminal charge they can issue a warrant for your arrest, throw your ass in jail more or less anywhere they find you in the States, fine you, hit you with another set of criminal charges, and refuse to release you because by that point you’re by definition a flight risk.

Please try to understand something about the American criminal justice system before you comment on it.

Edit - while apparently you can often get bail back under the right circumstances, bail is generally so expensive that even with a bond most people can’t afford it. If bail is only affordable to rich people, it’s in practice a special privilege of the rich.

SheeEttin ,

What? Yes, you get the bail money back. Otherwise, a bail bondsman would just be throwing that 90% away every time.

burningquestion , (edited )

Had to look it up to double check and edited my comment quite a while before you posted yours, so all I can say is, sure, I agree with you, not that I understand why you chose to respond to an earlier version of my comment. Or did you really spend fifteen minutes drafting a two sentence comment?

Although having seen court clerks play all kinds of nasty games with delivering court notices to defendants and the challenges many indigent defendants face, "you get your bail back if you never miss a single hearing is pretty slim comfort in the real world…

SheeEttin ,

You know I can see the timestamps, right? You posted the comment at 17:09:18, I replied at 17:20:56, you edited at 17:24:00.

Even if you edited multiple times and that’s only the most recent one, yes, in whatever time it was between me opening this post and submitting the comment, I did spend some time reading about bail, first just to make sure I wasn’t crazy, and then just out of curiosity.

burningquestion ,

Thanks for noticing I edited the comment a couple times.

Anyways, it took you fifteen minutes to check four or five results on Google? Okay.

SheeEttin ,

I have no idea what time I read your comment, so I have no idea how long I spent reading about bail, but sorry for being curious I guess.

islandofcaucasus ,

Has anyone ever told you that you’re kind of a douche bag?

burningquestion ,

I think it’s weird and rude to downvote and correct someone like twenty minutes after they already corrected themselves.

islandofcaucasus ,

Lol I like that you talked shit about their lack of understanding of the criminal justice system, yet you clearly didn’t understand how bail works. Please try to do better in the future

burningquestion , (edited )

Forgetting a single thing about a system I haven’t studied or interacted with in over fifteen years doesn’t mean I don’t understand it. You never forget or incorrectly remember anything?

Was I wrong in other parts of my comment? In what other ways did I betray a lack of understanding of the criminal justice system? Was my understanding overall better or worse than the person I was replying to? Did I really show a lower overall level of understanding than the right wing concern troll I was responding to?

Was my bit about bail even the main point of my comment?

In what ways should I do better in future? Never make mistakes? Not correct myself when I catch them? Not complain when other people pile on to correct me long after I’ve corrected myself? Not get annoyed when people who are clearly an order of magnitude slower than me take it on themselves to correct mistakes I’ve already fixed? Please help me be “better,” whatever that’s supposed to mean in this situation.

MasterObee ,

Please try to understand something about the American criminal justice system before you comment on it.

I wrote a comment starting that I’m not knowledgeable and asking for more opinions.

You told me I don’t understand it, need to read up more and that you have the answers. Then you have people correcting you and you need to edit and correct your comment.

Seems like I have the right amount of confidence in my response, and you are way too over confident.

burningquestion , (edited )

You were repeating common right-wing talking points about this in exactly the same concern trolling style that many right wing trolls use and have used on this exact topic of discussion. I just didn’t give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t exactly what you appeared to be and replied as though you were concern trolling. I still responded to your points.

Also, how much does it really change anything if you get bail back or not? Does it? How so, if so?

Additionally, I caught my mistake quickly and corrected it on my own. The people who are correcting me spent twenty minutes lovingly researching and crafting two sentence responses to an issue I caught on my own and fixed within a couple of minutes. I don’t know why you shouldn’t trust me based on needing to make a single correction. Based on this, you shouldn’t trust any human, living or dead, including the reporter who wrote the above article.

MasterObee ,

Sounds like you just need to read up on some of the American criminal justice system before you comment on it!

burningquestion ,

Less so than a racist bot who thinks the criminal justice system needs bail in order to detain people, though lmfao

mosiacmango ,

Cash bail drastically over affects poor people. If you dont have money to put up or assests to leverage, you hsve to take a loan that costs 10% of the loan total, i.e if you need 50k, you still need 5k to give up.

If you cant do the above like many poor people, you are stuck in jail while not being convincted of a crime. This almost always costs you your job, your home, all your belongings, your car, custody of your children, on and on. There are countless horror stories of people spending years in jail awaiting trial to be aquiteed and released, having lost everything they have in the world while being found not guilty of the crime.

This system ends that. If youre a flight risk or violent, you stay in jail. If not, you can carry on your life until youre convicted, which is both just and reasonable. It puts the poor and the rich in the same justice system, and thats a good thing.

mayor , in Teachers in England will have to tell parents if children question their gender

Why would they not tell their parents? Genuine question from someone out of the loop. If my kid was questioning I would prefer I know, right? The school has the kid for the majority of their time awake during the school year. This makes sense to me.

HeavenAndHell ,
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Because there are deeply bigoted parents that would hit their child if they found out. Maybe try to see it from their viewpoint?

mayor ,

That’s why I commented a question asking for rationale behind a different viewpoint. Thanks stranger, that makes sense.

Th4tGuyII ,
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I've been arguing exactly this with someone else somewhere in this thread. There are children who would be abused/kicked out of their home over this sort of thing.

I'd happy waiting until my child is ready to tell me to learn of certain aspects about them if it means protecting another from harm of this sort.

The problem I feel is the very parents demanding to know this information are the exact parents you wouldn't want knowing this information for their child's sake.

Naia ,

Because bigots have literally tortured their kids over being queer forever. Kids who don’t feel safe coming out at home usually have a good reason from fear of abuse to becoming homeless.

EhList ,
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Sone kids know their parents are garbage people and understand that their parents will either kick them out or abuse them for this.

The kid’s rights must come before “parental rights” in this case.

MicroWave OP , in Texas troopers told to push back migrants into Rio Grande River and ordered not to give water amid soaring temperatures, report says
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The trooper-medics contacted their superiors while on duty and again in writing, calling for changes to the latest Operation Lone Star policies brought in by Abbott.

I believe we have stepped over a line into the in humane [sic]. We need to operate it correctly in the eyes of God,” the trooper said. “We need to operate it correctly in the eyes of God. We need to recognize that these are people who are made in the image of God and need to be treated as such.”

fubo ,

Someone noticed that Christianity and right-wing doctrine aren’t nearly as compatible as the right-wing wants them to think …

DigDoug ,

There’s an episode of Behind the Bastards called “How the Rich Ate Christianity” about how certain people essentially constructed the religious right. In the early 20th century, the majority of pastors were socialists.

Aux ,

Religion is always conservative, that’s why Russian Communists destroyed churches and killed clerics.

novibe ,

Socialism is a direct consequence of Christianity. It’s the ultimate material incarnation of it.

Because of Christianity, we had the Renaissance, because of the Renaissance, we had capitalism. Because of capitalism we have socialism.

And many religions are extremely progressive and egalitarian. Many Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Jewish and even Muslim sects are. Not to mention Sikhs and Jains etc.

The issue is mostly the hierarchical, patriarchal and authoritarian sects won out and dominated the rest, extinguishing most that were real threats to their domination.

In my mind, this is all religion by the way. Buddhism or capitalism. Trans-humanism or nihilism. It’s all religion. We just have a very limited and antagonistic view of religions nowadays.

To the Classical Greeks “religion” was just trying to understand the world and how to live in it for example. That’s how most of us saw religion for a long time. Until the Catholic Church basically.

Now the Catholic Church is evil as fuck… mostly. As an institution.

cedarmesa , (edited )
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novibe ,

Religion and mythology have nothing to do with one another.

One of the oldest religions in the world, Advaita Vedanta, has basically no mythology. And I’d say it says a lot of similar things to modern science.

If you think ancient peoples believed the things they wrote in the way you understand them literally, then you really are missing the point.

We’ve been hammering on the same thing over and over. We’ve found the answer many times.

Science perhaps will be the gateway for this truth for a massive number of people. Much more than ever before.

But still, we’ve found the answer many many times already.

surewhynotlem ,

Religion and mythology have nothing to do with one another. Advaita Vedanta, has basically no mythology

What’s your definition of religion then? I think it probably maps to my definition of ‘culture’.

novibe ,

Religions have always been about trying to understand the world and how we should act in it as human beings. Those are the only and main things that connect all different “religions” in time and space.

surewhynotlem ,

Ok, so in trying to understand the world, there are really two options. Things you have proven (science), and things you believe without having proven. I’d argue that this second one is mythology.

novibe , (edited )

Science is not about proving things at all… it’s about provings things WRONG, and approximating truth through that. Key word being approximating.

Mythology is the collection of stories and sayings from a religion we no longer really “respect” anymore. Like Ancient Greek or Egyptian Religions. While no one says the burning bush or Allah in the cave are myths.

Still, there is a very fine line between philosophy and religion/mythology. Specially if you understand the basic concept of metaphors and symbology, when trying to read ancient and religious texts.

Just a final note, materialist reductionism is a dead-end. Many scientists already noticed this…

Aux ,

Lolwut? ALL religions are highly conservative and oppressive, that’s the point of their existence. There would be no need for renaissance if there was no religion.

novibe ,

How are all religions conservative and oppressive? How is that the point of their existence?

Like have you ever read anything about early Christianity compared to how things were around it at the time? What about Mandeism? What about the early Hindu schools like Advaita Vedanta and Vaisheshika? What about Sikhism, which is explicitly egalitarian and humanist?

The Renaissance was just a stage of development of Christian values. Like Capitalism after it (which was an evolution of Protestant values) and socialism.

Arguably modern science was born in the Catholic Church.

Why do people speak so confidently about things they know so little about?

DigDoug ,

Religion is always socially conservative. Fiscal conservatism doesn’t tend to jive with the teachings of most religions.

The fact that they tend to vote conservative anyway may show where their priorities lie, but I wasn’t lying when I said that most pastors were socialists in the early 20th century - it should be a natural consequence of believing in the teachings of Jesus.

Aux ,

The teaching of Jesus is to obey your master.

DigDoug ,

A teaching of Jesus is to obey your master. Hence that whole social conservatism thing.

ClockworkOtter ,

Hmm… Tell that to my socialist priest of a grandfather.

wanderingmagus ,
Beetschnapps ,

Conservatives: “… nah”

lagomorphlecture ,

They keep inching closer and closer to mass genocide and it’s really disgusting and disheartening.

Hyggyldy ,

Joe Arpaio needs to have war crime charges brought against him. For once this isn’t exaggeration in the slightest: If this were Nazi Germany the man would likely hold high position. His crimes are literally up there with the masterminds of the holocaust. The only difference is scale and target.

sadbehr , in 3-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 1-year-old sibling after getting ahold of unsecured handgun: SDSO
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Sending yet more thoughts and prayers /s.

SeaJ ,

Sounds like the owner needs to be charged. Unfortunately they rarely are.

not_that_guy05 ,

This is California. We are required by law to lock away our firearms and have safety locks on them. I hope the parents get fucked so hard, shit will be pushed out of their mouths. They are fuckin idiots.

SeaJ , (edited )

Many states have laws that would allow parents to be charged under negligence. They are still rarely charged. Even when they are, they are generally just given probation.

IninewCrow , in French woman hit by apparent meteorite while relaxing on her terrace
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Yeah ... I keep imagining this one for all of humanity.

One moment, we're having our usual run of the mill day, everything is either going good or going bad, we're all worried about the economy, billionaires flying around in their private jets, some poor kid is stealing oranges from the market, you're scrolling through some social media feed ... then BAMMMM!

Either one of two things happen to you.

You either get terribly unwell and die immediately or things fall apart around you, hurricane winds, things going crazy and then you die soon after.

Or

You're online and the internet goes screwy ... things aren't working right, then in an hour, most of the internet is gone. You turn on cable tv but most of the channels are now gone. You see one or two emergency channels and they're all talking about some 'event' that happened somewhere far away. Then most tv everywhere goes down too. There are rumours everywhere of Russians have launched nuclear weapons, world war three has started, aliens have landed, Jesus has come back, Armageddon has started ... and then hurricane force winds start blowing everywhere ... things are just tossed around and you either die in the mix or you are one of the lucky ones who happen to be underground ... you won't last a few days and then you die soon after anyway.

Random Gamma Ray Burst has directly hit the planet earth ... it irradiates half the planet where it hit head on, vapourizing the atmosphere and causing violent weather changes and the radiation either immediately killing or slowly sickening every living thing until it all dies including all animals, most fish near the surface, plants and humans ... the other half of the planet didn't get hit by the radiation but now survives just a little longer as half the planet tries to equalize with the other destroyed half.

It's theorized that this is one of the probable causes of several unexplained extinction events in earth's geologic history. And if it ever happened now, we'd have no warning ... and even if we did ... we wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

MMNT ,

Well, I’m definitely not getting a good night’s sleep now. Thank.

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