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marx2k ,

I got told on Twitter that this is the fault of the democrats for having open borders and letting in this cannon fodder

Fedizen ,

“are we the baddies?”

InverseParallax ,

So wait, if there are people we don’t think are worthy of being in our country we can just push them out?

Seems like this is a principle Texas wouldn’t want to draw attention to?

babypigeon ,

Lol! If this is true, most of Texas will end up on dry land in Mexico. Florida, otoh, is screwed. Good luck swimming to Cuba.

TigrisMorte ,

Isn't it against the Law to commit an act of War without the approval of the President?

style99 ,
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The party of "pro life" strikes again.

JusticeForPorygon ,
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We Americans have always been known to treat our migrants with the upmost respect. As soon as they get here they’re sent to meet the Vice President!

/s if it wasn’t clear

MicroWave OP ,
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The trooper-medics contacted their superiors while on duty and again in writing, calling for changes to the latest Operation Lone Star policies brought in by Abbott.

“I believe we have stepped over a line into the in humane [sic]. We need to operate it correctly in the eyes of God,” the trooper said. “We need to operate it correctly in the eyes of God. We need to recognize that these are people who are made in the image of God and need to be treated as such.”

fubo ,

Someone noticed that Christianity and right-wing doctrine aren’t nearly as compatible as the right-wing wants them to think …

DigDoug ,

There’s an episode of Behind the Bastards called “How the Rich Ate Christianity” about how certain people essentially constructed the religious right. In the early 20th century, the majority of pastors were socialists.

Aux ,

Religion is always conservative, that’s why Russian Communists destroyed churches and killed clerics.

novibe ,

Socialism is a direct consequence of Christianity. It’s the ultimate material incarnation of it.

Because of Christianity, we had the Renaissance, because of the Renaissance, we had capitalism. Because of capitalism we have socialism.

And many religions are extremely progressive and egalitarian. Many Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Jewish and even Muslim sects are. Not to mention Sikhs and Jains etc.

The issue is mostly the hierarchical, patriarchal and authoritarian sects won out and dominated the rest, extinguishing most that were real threats to their domination.

In my mind, this is all religion by the way. Buddhism or capitalism. Trans-humanism or nihilism. It’s all religion. We just have a very limited and antagonistic view of religions nowadays.

To the Classical Greeks “religion” was just trying to understand the world and how to live in it for example. That’s how most of us saw religion for a long time. Until the Catholic Church basically.

Now the Catholic Church is evil as fuck… mostly. As an institution.

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novibe ,

Religion and mythology have nothing to do with one another.

One of the oldest religions in the world, Advaita Vedanta, has basically no mythology. And I’d say it says a lot of similar things to modern science.

If you think ancient peoples believed the things they wrote in the way you understand them literally, then you really are missing the point.

We’ve been hammering on the same thing over and over. We’ve found the answer many times.

Science perhaps will be the gateway for this truth for a massive number of people. Much more than ever before.

But still, we’ve found the answer many many times already.

surewhynotlem ,

Religion and mythology have nothing to do with one another. Advaita Vedanta, has basically no mythology

What’s your definition of religion then? I think it probably maps to my definition of ‘culture’.

novibe ,

Religions have always been about trying to understand the world and how we should act in it as human beings. Those are the only and main things that connect all different “religions” in time and space.

surewhynotlem ,

Ok, so in trying to understand the world, there are really two options. Things you have proven (science), and things you believe without having proven. I’d argue that this second one is mythology.

novibe , (edited )

Science is not about proving things at all… it’s about provings things WRONG, and approximating truth through that. Key word being approximating.

Mythology is the collection of stories and sayings from a religion we no longer really “respect” anymore. Like Ancient Greek or Egyptian Religions. While no one says the burning bush or Allah in the cave are myths.

Still, there is a very fine line between philosophy and religion/mythology. Specially if you understand the basic concept of metaphors and symbology, when trying to read ancient and religious texts.

Just a final note, materialist reductionism is a dead-end. Many scientists already noticed this…

Aux ,

Lolwut? ALL religions are highly conservative and oppressive, that’s the point of their existence. There would be no need for renaissance if there was no religion.

novibe ,

How are all religions conservative and oppressive? How is that the point of their existence?

Like have you ever read anything about early Christianity compared to how things were around it at the time? What about Mandeism? What about the early Hindu schools like Advaita Vedanta and Vaisheshika? What about Sikhism, which is explicitly egalitarian and humanist?

The Renaissance was just a stage of development of Christian values. Like Capitalism after it (which was an evolution of Protestant values) and socialism.

Arguably modern science was born in the Catholic Church.

Why do people speak so confidently about things they know so little about?

DigDoug ,

Religion is always socially conservative. Fiscal conservatism doesn’t tend to jive with the teachings of most religions.

The fact that they tend to vote conservative anyway may show where their priorities lie, but I wasn’t lying when I said that most pastors were socialists in the early 20th century - it should be a natural consequence of believing in the teachings of Jesus.

Aux ,

The teaching of Jesus is to obey your master.

DigDoug ,

A teaching of Jesus is to obey your master. Hence that whole social conservatism thing.

ClockworkOtter ,

Hmm… Tell that to my socialist priest of a grandfather.

wanderingmagus ,

meme image of Nazi soldier asking “are we the baddies?”

Beetschnapps ,

Conservatives: “… nah”

lagomorphlecture ,

They keep inching closer and closer to mass genocide and it’s really disgusting and disheartening.

Hyggyldy ,

Joe Arpaio needs to have war crime charges brought against him. For once this isn’t exaggeration in the slightest: If this were Nazi Germany the man would likely hold high position. His crimes are literally up there with the masterminds of the holocaust. The only difference is scale and target.

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