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Aloha_Alaska , in "Write a Check for $11,000. She Was 26, She Had Limited Value." [Seattle Police] Officer Jokes with Police Union Leader About Killing of Pedestrian by Fellow Cop

“No, it’s a regular person.”

I’m speechless. I know the training draws a line between the police and everyone else, but for it to be right there in print, from someone high up the hierarchy…I’m stunned that they could be so callous with a life.

It really is “us versus them,” isn’t it?

bobman ,

This is why it’s always okay to kill rich people.

They’ve been killing us since time immemorial and never facing consequences for it. Instead, they would get rewarded.

Fuck this. Social contract is unraveling, and good riddance.

IIIIII ,

Discussion about police mentality and tribalism: “let’s just kill rich people”

bobman ,

I mean, why play fair with an opponent who breaks all the rules? Unless you’re a loser?

CptOblivius ,

I am not aware of any place else where police refer to people as “civilians”. Usually that is reserved for military and not military. But in the US they think it’s borderline martial law.

They really honestly believe there is a separation between them and “us.”. I believe this is the root of the problem.

Unicode13051 , in Proud Boys leader predicts Trump will pardon him as he bemoans prison food
@Unicode13051@lemmyf.uk avatar

Regardless of political leanings, if one of the steps in your master plan is “receive pardon from glorious leader once they return to power”, you might want to rethink what you’re about to do.

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  • Selmafudd ,

    Good news then, he’s got 17 years to think about it

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    People in the freaken gulags were waiting for Stalin to pardon them. No one, including myself, wants to accept the existence they almost certainly have and will have hope for saviour. Even if it is the person who put them there.

    chemicalprophet , in Sen. Mitch McConnell appears to freeze again at a Kentucky event

    I mean, why not have a dying sociopath representing us?..

    Maruki_Hurakami ,

    Par for the course at this point. Won’t be surprised if Mitch represents us in effigy when he dies. “this is what Mitch would have wanted”

    1847953620 ,

    *Glitch

    Anticorp ,

    We had an Alzheimer’s patient as president, so this is just the status quo.

    PetDinosaurs ,

    I assume you’re talking about Regan, but while I think he and Biden and Trump are/were too old to be president, the latter two don’t have obvious signs of Alzheimer’s.

    1847953620 ,

    Only signs of significant cognitive decline

    PetDinosaurs ,

    They’re not so bad compared to McConnell or Feinstein.

    In any case, Trump has a serious mental illness that is understated because of ethics rules. It’s just not solely cognitive decline. (It’s not that the 80 yo’s don’t have signs of decline. It’s that trump has a much worse and more obvious issue).

    30mag ,

    How can you tell?

    Guntrigger , in Sam Bankman-Fried living on bread and water because jail won't abide vegan diet, lawyer says

    In these comments, People who:

    • think vegetarian is close enough to vegan.
    • don’t realise vegan items are no longer vegan if they’re for example, cooked in butter.
    • want prisoners to rot in jail from the inside out, literally.
    I_Fart_Glitter ,

    I don’t think prison should be punitive, but I REALLY don’t think jail should be punitive. You haven’t been proven guilty of anything when you’re in jail.

    All of the food served in prison/jail is dogshit and it’s not ok. Edible food is a human right. People with ethically based diet restrictions should be protected the same way that religiously based diet restrictions are.

    Belief in a make believe sky-daddy doesn’t make one persons ethical dietary choices more important than another’s. Maybe the Satanic Temple can step in and help out the incarcerated vegans. That seems up their alley.

    nomadjoanne ,

    Yes from everything I hear American prisons are all around horrible (by first world standards). This doesn’t seem surprising.

    You’re there to be punished by your freedom of movement being taken away. Not by being forced to eat inedible food.

    Papergeist ,

    If prisons are going to get nutritious food, then school children need to get it first.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    Sysco provides the food to both in many cases.

    VerdantSporeSeasoning ,

    … Or Aramark

    Shudders

    FMT99 ,

    Yes, you’re right. They should both get nutritious food. It’s not a competition. Everyone under care of the state should get nutritious, decent food. In fact even those that aren’t under care of the state should.

    Lazylazycat ,
    @Lazylazycat@lemmy.world avatar

    They both should, this should be the bare minimum for being a human existing in society.

    AA5B ,

    How about: at least in my town at police department holding cells, they make you pay and they go get takeout. There’s no legitimate reason to not offer a choice of takeout

    NuPNuA ,

    I have noticed for a supposedly progressive network, there are a lot of posts recently on news stories about prisoners supporting capital punishment and wishing prison violence on them. Very odd stuff.

    Stern ,
    @Stern@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m hesitant to say PINO but there is definitely a cadre of folks who want (for example) food and shelter for the homeless and for their enemies to starve to death in a ditch.

    NuPNuA ,

    Yeah, it’s amazing how fast some people can dehumanise their perceived enemies yet stil think they’re the good guys.

    RHSJack ,

    This has been repeated in case studies around the world since then but the Nuremberg Trials were the first public use of “But of course the other officers at Auschwitz were terrible people but I am not a terrible person!” The psychology would be interesting if it weren’t so frikkin horrific. But I suspect SBF isn’t that so much as a complete and total narcissist and sociopath.

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Some of these “enemies” dehumanise themselves very easily. Narcisistic sociopaths who actively and openly brag about manipulating “idiots”, saying they’re the best shit to ever grace the earth and downplay their crimes while laughing all the way to the bank to withdraw ill gotten gains? Yeah, real hard to believe they’d ever want to redeem themselves.

    Couple that with the general feeling that rich assholes always get lightly punished whenever they’re caught and it’s even easier to understand the bloodlust for “proper punishment” against them.

    Treczoks ,

    When you consider “let X rot in jail” as “capital punishment”, count me in.

    NuPNuA ,

    I think it’s the “rot” that’s unbecoming to me there. Implicating you don’t think prisons should be hygienic and comfortable for prisoners.

    Hazdaz ,

    Hell yeah there should be support for capital punishment.

    NuPNuA ,

    Move to Iran then, you may like it there.

    Honytawk ,

    I think it has more to do with rich people getting away with murder because they are rich while homeless people getting the worst punishment for stealing a loaf of bread or sleeping on a bench.

    And the rest of society getting sick and tired of it, so I see their sentiment.

    I don’t believe in capital punishment though, let alone a death sentence.

    Guntrigger ,

    The thing is, if the rich are getting treated like this in prison, surely it’s going to be even worse for literally anyone else.

    Skydancer ,

    It already is

    Treczoks ,

    Do you really expect a jail to cook things in butter? If they could get away with it, they would probably cook things in waste oil from the next garage.

    Guntrigger ,

    True enough, but it was just an example. More likely something like mashed potato will have milk or other dairy. Even vegetarian nutriloaf might not qualify as vegan.

    Point is not everything that starts out vegan ends up vegan on the plate.

    Lazylazycat ,
    @Lazylazycat@lemmy.world avatar

    Most margarine isn’t vegan either.

    Treczoks ,

    It isn’t? What do they put in there to make it non-vegan? The whole idea was to get rid of the expensive animal parts…

    Lazylazycat ,
    @Lazylazycat@lemmy.world avatar

    They usually contain buttermilk or whey (on top of vegetable fat of some kind). They won’t be vegan unless they specifically say they are.

    Hazdaz ,

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  • clothes ,

    Seriously, this comment section makes me want to leave Lemmy forever. Why would I build a community with these people?

    FMT99 ,

    It’s like Reddit all over again. Guess we shouldn’t have too high hopes for humanity.

    clothes ,

    I will say that it gives me hope that so many people are pushing back in threads like this. I’ve been trying a lot of platforms in recent months, and places like Tildes, HackerNews, and even Beehaw seem to be better able to have constructive conversations about heated topics. So we’re not alone!

    CaptainEffort ,

    Unfortunately this isn’t just Lemmy, or even Reddit. People irl feel this way.

    Actually, to Lemmy’s credit, I’ve seen way more pushback to that mentality here than I’ve seen anywhere else.

    NumbersCanBeFun , in Shop owner shot, killed over rainbow flag outside clothing store near Lake Arrowhead
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  • Deceptichum ,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    They outright kill someone over a flag and you’re fantasising about politely ripping one down?

    I think the time for such a peaceful response is well and truly past.

    iHUNTcriminals , (edited )

    Blat blat. Fire power’s something no american has bragging rights over `cause we all can get it. Legal or illegal. We’re in a slow motion civil war so don’t go bragging about shit everyone has access to if you’re a soft handed new age patriot.

    People should be building up rations of medicine.

    Maeve ,

    And participating in mutual aid.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    gotta rip it down before shoving it up their ass.

    Sharkwellington ,

    They outright kill someone over a flag and you’re fantasising about politely ripping one down?

    Really puts it into perspective huh? Unfortunately we can’t afford to be polite with savages.

    Fredselfish ,
    @Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

    I threw one of those blue lives matter flags in the trash. It blew in from my neighbors house fuck hate the traitorous fucks.

    Aderyna ,

    There’s a guy in my rural northern NY town with TWO confederate flags in the back of his big ass truck 🙄

    chilburn06 ,

    I smuggled home a confederate flag I found in a drawer at my grandmother’s house. Disposed of it with a bag of cat shit.

    Bytemeister ,

    Bruh, you just stole G-Ma’s emergency TP reserve left over from the early days of covid. Nothing else attracts shit like the stars and bars.

    Alexstarfire , in American Airlines sues Skiplagged, claiming cheap tickets are ‘classic bait and switch’

    This is the saddest attempt to thwart a practice you don’t like. None of it makes any sense. As far as I can tell, having used the service many times though never actually skiplagging, it doesn’t do anything different than any other travel site. Pretty often I’m just redirected to the airline website with the specific flight selected for me. Skiplagged ends up just being an aggregator at that point.

    Their reasoning for disliking skiplagging is stupid too. If the person didn’t skip a leg of the flight the seat would be taken and it would cost them fuel. More expenses for them. If they are arguing that they could have gotten more money by having someone actually use the seat for that leg of the flight then perhaps they should change their pricing so skiplagging doesn’t make financial sense for the passenger.

    I’ve heard reasons for why things are priced like that but that sounds like a them problem, not ours.

    billwashere ,

    If they were that accurate in their seat management then why are airlines constantly overbooking their flights and asking for passengers to volunteer to take another flight?

    Plus if a passenger is NOT taking a leg doesn’t that save them fuel? This is like suing a person for using a buy 2 get 1 free deal because they could have sold 3 for full price.

    bluGill ,

    The amount of fuel saved is insignificant overall. The airplane still needs to fly and that is where most fuel goes '

    RustyWizard ,

    Which is irrelevant. I paid for the ticket. Whatever costs have been covered. If I choose not to use it, that’s my prerogative.

    dorkian_gray ,
    @dorkian_gray@lemmy.world avatar

    No, the fuel is paid for because the flight is paid for. The plane is still going to its final destination, it’s just going to use less fuel because there’s one fewer passenger. I’d argue as well that skiplaggers don’t check bags, so the fuel savings are even greater since that’s one less bag than planned on both flights.

    Over time, those fuel savings do add up. Airlines do care about that, or checking bags wouldn’t be an optional extra charge with so many of them. It’s just not as optimal as having someone pay the full price for a ticket to destination 1, and full price for destination 2.

    Frankly, I feel that airlines can shut up. Overbooking flights is the same practice in reverse - they deoptimise passenger travel plans by bumping people when everyone who booked a seat shows up.

    Snapz ,

    “The amount of fuel saved is insignificant overall.”

    We need to teach you about economies of scale…

    hayes_ ,

    Just to clarify, skiplagged does do things a little differently.

    For example: they saved me $300 flying from Japan to SFO because they booked me an additional leg from SFO to SEA. If you searched for the first leg on any aggregator (or the airline’s site), it was available but cost $300 more than booking the 2-flight itinerary to SEA (which would never show up if you searched for flights to SFO).

    For what it’s worth, I agree that this form of pricing is absurd and should be illegal. The fact that skiplagged even exists indicates something has gone wrong.

    Alexstarfire ,

    I only meant in terms of actually booking the flights, not finding them. That last part is what makes them special.

    Astroturfed ,

    From their view you cost them an upcharge on the initial ticket and then they can boom the seat for ANOTHER up charged direct flight on the second leg. It’s complete bullshit that this has become their business model, but it is. Anticonsumer behavior is corporate 101 these days.

    dhork ,

    So, there is a practical reason why airlines dislike skiplagging. There’s a contract of carriage that goes along with every ticket, and it states that the airline has a responsibility to get a traveler from their origin to their destination. If flights get rescheduled and canceled, the airlines will reacommodate you on alternate flights from origin to destination, and are under no obligation to route you through that particular airport.

    However, this is mainly a contracting provision and as long as airlines offer flights that get cheaper when you add a connection, they shouldn’t be surprised when people take advantage of it. They can ban a traveler when they do it too many times, I suppose, but Skiplagged is doing nothing wrong here.

    Remember that airlines are not above gaming the rules for themselves, either. Qatar Airlines is running empty flights in Australia, on purpose, to get around restrictions on foreign airlines flying there. They have a flight to Melbourne, and also a flight to Adelaide with a “stop” in Melbourne – except they scheduled the Melbourne to Adelaide leg inconveniently, on purpose, to make sure no one would want to connect. The result is two flights to Melbourne, where normally they would only be entitled to one: onemileatatime.com/…/qatar-airways-australia-flig…

    I don’t use skiplagged, but think that if the airlines want to stop people from using it, they should make their fare rules saner.

    1stTime4MeInMCU , (edited ) in Two LGBTQ films were slapped with R and NC-17 ratings. Critics say queer sex scenes are treated differently

    Part of society’s implicit notion that LGBTQ is inherently sexual in a way that heterosexuality (or being cis) isn’t. Telling kids that some kids have A mommy and a daddy is fine, two daddies is a kink that shouldn’t be mentioned. Ok well it’s either all inherently sexual or none of it is.

    Lemmylefty ,
    @Lemmylefty@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly!

    Deviance from the norm must be exaggerated in order to be rejected, otherwise it might be mistaken for appealing by the population.

    Bipta ,

    Well said.

    electrogamerman ,

    This problem comes from gay men too. I have read a couple of times how gay men dont “announce” that they are gay, because whatever happenea in their bedroom is their business, as if being gay meant only getting dick in the bed. That’s a mentality that is taught in our world.

    ChihuahuaOfDoom , in A funder for 'Sound of Freedom,' a QAnon-adjacent film about child sex trafficking, has been charged with accessory to child kidnapping

    Anyone surprised?

    LordOfTheChia ,

    While the title of the story is interesting, this tidbit was buried further down:

    Sound of Freedom" surprised critics by smashing box office projections, grossing more than $150 million so far. The film had a $14.5 million budget. Social media users have suggested that the film is using “astroturfing,” a practice of buying up hundreds of tickets to make theaters appear sold out, to inflate its success.

    Several TikToks have gone viral showing “Sound of Freedom” theaters that were supposedly sold out completely empty once the movie begins.

    buckykat ,

    They’re also asking people who do see it to “donate” an extra ticket’s worth of money to them to supposedly allow someone else to see it. The grift never ends.

    Earthwormjim91 ,

    That’s how a ton of politicians “NYT best sellers” books are done. They’ll use campaign funds to buy up a ton of books and then give them out for free at rallies and shit.

    Surreal ,

    What a waste of paper

    Debeli_Perun ,

    But they also put a dagger next to it to denote a bulk sale.

    heavy.com/…/triggered-ny-times-bestseller-dagger-…

    Earthwormjim91 ,

    They only started doing that within the last 5-10 years iirc though

    And the list isn’t purely sales numbers anyway as they admitted in the 80s in a legal case. It isn’t mathematically objective but rather done on a subjective editorial scale. They choose which books to have on a subjective scale that doesn’t even have to take sales into account.

    irkli ,
    @irkli@lemmy.world avatar

    Why, a complete coincidence I AM SURE. uhuh

    nicemarmot ,

    They had a pay it forward program to buy others tickets so that they could see it to spread the message. It’s a great marketing strategy for the studio to have an inflated sense of how important the movie is.

    CeruleanRuin ,
    @CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world avatar

    Surprised that only one of them has been rooted out so far. The whole movement is projection and deflection. There’s a serious problem of child abuse in right wing culture that they’re not willing to taking about.

    magnetosphere , in Harley-Davidson drops DEI initiatives amid pressure from ‘anti-woke’ activists
    @magnetosphere@fedia.io avatar

    As a company, we take this issue very seriously…

    …by abandoning it completely. Fuck you, Harley-Davidson.

    Marthirial ,

    Peddling Chinese made toys for low energy, post manhood, American “patriots” living in a distopian freedom fantasy.

    SarcasticMan , in Vance agrees that raising grandchildren is ‘whole purpose of postmenopausal female’
    @SarcasticMan@lemmy.world avatar

    Women are for reproduction use only. Men can fuck couches and dress up like women but their place is out in the world. Doing the tough jobs like I did when I was a US Marine, risking my life to write press releases and enjoy it in the rear, hahaha, that’s what she said. I am not weird, you’re weird. When a woman can no longer produce babies and her womb has dried up she should devote her time to raising the children of her husband’s young new baby machi…I mean grandchildren. In conclusion, Donny said I could say the n-word any time I want if he gets elected and he would also buy me a nice new sexy suede couch and he promised not to deport my brown wife and our Italian-level white children." - James David “My Preferred Name Is JD” Vance

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    Well, you certainly live up to your username! Damn! Tell em how you really feel!

    SpraynardKruger ,

    I thought his name was Jorkin Depeanus

    Coach , in Donald Trump says he will flee to Venezuela if he loses election [Newsweek]

    The mob speak is insane, but in reality, would this be grounds to revoke any bail/bonds he’s currently on?

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    When you’re rich, they let you do it.

    Dragomus ,

    “Oh don’t worry, he’s just on vacation and/or has business there, he’ll come back (after he sold other hidden US top secret information)”

    snekerpimp ,

    They give you your ex best friend’s plane to ride away in

    dan ,
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    Is Trump actually rich though?

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    Yes

    MutilationWave ,

    Like billionaire rich? Only since truth social went public.

    prole ,

    Yeah, everyone is saying this is him saying he’s going to bail, and yeah I agree but I also read more into it. I saw it as a signal to his base that they have “a plan” to retreat and re-strategize or whatever. Why would he just give up and live quietly in Venezuela? If this dude loses, he will make Kamala’s life a living hell.

    And I bet there are Americans willing to follow him there (good riddance tbh).

    Mobiuthuselah , in Betsy DeVos, Who Quit Trump Admin, Says She’d Serve Again if Trump Wins

    Betsy DeVos is the sister of Erik Prince who founded Blackwater, the controversial mercenary group, for those that didn’t know. She vehemently suppressed anything that would benefit public education and funneled public funds to private education while she was Secretary Of Education.

    SeaJ ,

    And she got rich by her husband scamming people via Amway.

    Sammy ,
    @Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Ah, so she’s the unrepentant evil, gotcha

    borf , in Trump spews lies, disparages Harris’s intelligence, insults Jews, and rambles about “insane asylums” in unhinged press conference

    I saw a video the other day explaining why he always brings up Hannibal Lecter seemingly out of the blue when discussing immigration, and this confirms the hypothesis: Trump does not understand that political asylum means something different than insane asylum

    einlander ,

    Link to video?

    borf ,
    gofsckyourself ,

    Any vids that are not on tiktok?

    QuadratureSurfer ,
    @QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

    Here’s an alternative link using ProxiTok:

    proxitok.pabloferreiro.es/…/7393882849096518943

    gofsckyourself ,

    Link doesn’t work

    tora ,

    it works for me

    rayyy ,

    does not understand that political asylum means something different than insane asylum

    What dummy doesn’t understand that? Oh right, the weird, orange felon doesn’t. The same one who can’t spell coffee or pronounce Kamala.

    suzune ,

    I’ve been thinking about your comment for a day and I suspect that some political speeches are written assisted by AI. That would just mean that Trump and his team are lazy and didn’t actually verify the semantics of the output.

    the_post_of_tom_joad , in Families seek answers after inmates' bodies returned without internal organs

    Agolia Moore was shocked to get a call telling her that her son was found dead in an Alabama prison of a suspected drug overdose.

    So they killed him.

    In America. I thought i was done being shocked at or prisons but killing and harvesting organs (ostensibly for someone rich)… Fuuuuck we need to start eating rich people like… now.

    another ,

    I’ll follow you….

    Mirshe ,

    China has been doing this for years. We’re just playing catch up in the Horrible Things Olympics.

    Reverendender ,

    USA! USA!

    jaybone ,

    SCOTUS is making us more China every day.

    Aussiemandeus ,
    @Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

    Right, it seems exactly like this.

    DaddleDew , in Trump proposed bombing Mexico and it somehow wasn’t a big story

    Trump saying something extremely irresponsible and stupid isn’t newsworthy anymore.

    NegativeInf ,

    It should be. What purpose would this serve? No concern for life or process. It speaks directly to how Trump sees those he considers less than him. If he were president again, how long until he threatens to bomb an American state passing laws he doesn’t like?

    It’s all fine and dandy when it’s brown people, but what about working class people protesting for unions and workers rights? What about women standing united for the right to bodily autonomy? When the lgbtq community throws bricks again for getting arrested for existing in public? When women’s suffrage is in question and people start taking hammers to windows and chaining themselves to railings?

    Every single thing he says should be considered prelude to the worst impulses of an unhinged and irresponsible mad man with more power than most people on earth could possibly dream of.

    thefartographer ,

    Agreed. Trump, the personality, should not be “newsworthy” anymore. Trump, the character in our shit-stirring forecasting, shouldn’t be “newsworthy” anymore.

    Trump said a crazy thing that threatens millions of people and everyone needs to know what a threat he is? That’s absolutely is still newsworthy.

    Quit speculating on whether Trump is joking, if Trump believes what he says, if he’ll be nicer, or whatever other tea leaves that the media keeps claiming to be able to read. Just report on what the greatest individual immediate threat to this country is saying and doing.

    DogPeePoo , (edited )

    Don-Old Trump also suggested drinking bleach to cure Covid and using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes.

    He’s so irresponsibly weird— and also clinically insane

    jaybone ,

    I’d like to think that if he actually ordered the military to bomb Mexico, the upper echelon would realize this would be a war crime and they’d be tried at the next Nuremberg if they followed such an order, which might result in someone who isn’t an angsty 20 year old kid, but maybe someone who actually knows how to use a rifle, decide to be a true patriot who swore to stop threats both foreign and domestic.

    Silentiea ,
    @Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    That started off sounding like you were saying “someone will refuse orders and not bomb Mexico” and ended up sounding like you were saying “someone should turn their weapons against the man telling them to bomb Mexico”

    jaybone ,

    Yeah, that sounds like a fair summery.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    This is because everyone knows he’s a stupid and irresponsible old man.

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