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FuglyDuck , in Burger King must face lawsuit claiming its Whoppers are too small
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like this belongs in !nottheonion.

Yes. BK is probably sizing the bun-to-patty ratio to make them look and seem larger. They also probably make sure to paint their lettuce green so it looks fresher. Or would, if that weren’t already banned by the FDA.

SheeEttin ,

Stuff in the ads is very rarely the same as reality. For example, under bright studio lights, ice cream melts pretty quick. Mashed potato doesn’t. Guess what they use.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Of course. I assumed they were saying it was the burgers itself. As long as the patty was a 1/4 pound patty at some point or whatever they say they serve…it’s going to be hard to argue

People were spray painting lettuce green at one point. And I’m pretty sure they still occasionally dye pistachios red for some reason

over_clox ,

Meanwhile, ice cream that doesn’t melt…

piped.video/watch?v=4p9EI6cRB0c

Earthwormjim91 ,

It depends. If the ad is for ice cream then they have to use ice cream by law. But any toppings can be fake.

If they’re advertising chocolate syrup, the ice cream can be fake but the chocolate syrup has to be real.

iopq ,

I ate ice cream in China that doesn’t melt even if you burn it with a torch

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How were the toxic metals?

momocchi ,

The issue here is it isn’t just ratios. The entire burger itself looks far larger in diameter than it is in reality

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

In marketing materials, that’s supposed to happen.

If they say it’s a 1/4 pound patty… it’s a 1/4 patty even if the photo is a 1/3 pound patty. Or it’s not then the lawsuit has merit.

The pictures are allowed to be misleading

angrystego ,

The pictures are allowed to be misleading

  • That's not good. Time to change that.
FuglyDuck , (edited )
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

It depends on your perspective. From a consumer protection stand point, sure, marketing based entirely on all the faults of the product might be helpful. “our burgers are designed to be unsatisfying, to make you buy more. they’re loaded with fat and butter and other kinds of fat, and the buns are incredibly sugary to make you addicted and make up for the utter lack of real flavor… and it’s not even entirely beef in that there patty” isn’t really going to sell many burgers.

So from a marketing perspective it is bad. Saying “oh, the photo on the menu makes it appetizing, when it’s not really appetizing” is like… Saying “OH. our photographers and food modelers did a good job!” to them. and that, whether you like me or not, is why you really need to read the menu instead of looking at the advertisements. Whose beef patty is probably made of painted mashed potatoes, painted up in lacquer because it’s hard to keep food fresh enough to get a good photo…

2ncs ,

read the menu instead of looking at the advertisements

The issue is most fast food restaurants use the advertisement photos on the menu. Sorta leads the customer to believe that’s what they are getting (with some tolerance).

Stoney_Logica1 ,

The pictures are allowed to be misleading

Guess we’ll find out, huh?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I remember seeing a show when I was a kid made for kids about deceptive advertising (it was on HBO back when HBO was decent) and they had a segment on all the ways they dress food for food ads. It was fascinating. I remember milk was made from Elmer’s Glue, cereal flakes were chosen from hundreds of boxes to find the perfect ones, and ice cream, which would melt under the hot lights if it were real, was made from vegetable shortening.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

oh yeah. Commercial food photography is… a sneaky art. they find textures that are similar and paint them to be what they need. hard gloss like beef juices are lacquer, fruits are made to look fresher with hairspray… and this assumes they’re using fruit at all.

SpacetimeMachine ,

They use motor oil for pancake syrup because it won’t soak into the pancakes.

bloopernova , (edited ) in Kevin McCarthy is ousted as House speaker in a historic vote pushed by conservatives
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

Damn. I guess the gop speaker will never compromise with the dems ever again.

EDIT: I meant in the context of the bill that mccarthy passed on Saturday with the help of the dems. Any new speaker will be very wary of pissing off the gaetz crowd.

downpunxx ,
@downpunxx@kbin.social avatar

tell me you haven't been paying attention to republican politics since 2016, without, you know, telling me

bloopernova ,
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

I added a bit of context to my comment, I definitely didn’t communicate my thinking well.

I meant that a new speaker will be scared of the gaetz crowd. They’ll be even less cooperative than the gop have been.

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  • samus12345 ,
    @samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

    wouldn’t

    draneceusrex ,

    McCarthy almost did the right thing by letting the funding bill come to the floor, but it also stripped Ukraine funding and was a can to kick things down the road giving us only 45 days till we’re in the same spot. He could have also offered consessions to the Dems for their vote, which he refused to do. Add to that what is a literal witchhunt of an Impechment inquiry, why do you think the Dems should have saved him?

    bloopernova ,
    @bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

    I don’t think they should have saved him. I added some context to my comment, since everyone is thinking I meant something very different.

    TheFonz ,

    This is politics on Lemmy. What is this “context” you refer to? We don’t do that here.

    commandar ,

    Refusing to cooperate with Democrats is what sank him.

    He needed support from Democrats to keep the Speakership. He's spent the entire year giving them no reason to trust him -- including going on the Sunday shows this week knowing this vote was coming and trying to blame Democrats for the near shutdown.

    Kbin_space_program ,

    This. If he had just stuck to the deal that was agreed to with Biden, he'd probably still be speaker.

    But no, he had to try and play both sides.

    Now the fascists are going to get their speaker in and there will very likely be a shutdown in 45 days

    Drewsteau ,

    “I’m gonna play both sides, that way I’ll always end up on top”

    BackOnMyBS ,
    @BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, he was supposed to play both sides against each other. Instead, he got them both against himself 🤦‍♂️

    bloopernova ,
    @bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

    Ah, ok that makes sense now. I hadn’t really kept up on dem/mccarthy relations. I was referring to the new leader being afraid to piss off the gaetz crowd by working with Dems even once.

    FlowVoid ,

    McCarthy knew that a government shutdown would have pissed off even more Republicans in Congress, including all of those in vulnerable districts.

    For example, Boebert’s district. Notice how for once she didn’t vote alongside Gaetz? Behind closed doors, there were plenty of Congressional Republicans telling McCarthy that making make a deal with Democrats was preferable to a politically suicidal shutdown.

    bloopernova ,
    @bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

    I saw that she didn’t vote with gaetz and I was puzzled, thanks for the info!

    ImFresh3x ,

    The new speaker will only survive if the new speaker can get support from some of both parties. The lesson is clear.

    Stovetop ,

    I think that’s an impossible act in this day and age.

    ghostdoggtv , in India tells Canada to withdraw 41 diplomats, report says

    Modi is taking cues from Putin and it’s plain as day

    lustyargonian , in Idaho Banned Abortion. Then It Turned Down Supports for Pregnancies and Births.

    Am I just biased or right wingers almost never have anything nice to offer to people?

    scaredoftrumpwinning ,

    Depends if you are rich or not

    ohlaph ,

    I haven’t seen a single good thing that actually benefits all Americans.

    TenderfootGungi ,

    Policies for the rich. But they use wedge issues like abortion and now “woke” to get elected.

    tsz , in Navy SEAL who claimed to kill Bin Laden arrested in Texas

    30 years after I get my first AOL disk, reddit cancels itself and I’m back getting news about Osama’s killer from AOL.

    reagansrottencorpse ,

    I used to take handfuls of those discs from blockbuster and use them as frisbees in my living room

    SymphonicResonance ,
    @SymphonicResonance@lemmy.world avatar

    I took the write protection off of them and used them as spare storage .

    nilloc ,

    Yeah it was such a bummer when they switched to CDs. I got a Zip drive not long after though and never looked back.

    TransplantedSconie , in Kaiser Permanente workers start to walk off the job. It’s set to become the largest health care worker strike in US history

    Fuck yeah! Get that bank, guys and gals!

    STRONG!

    30mag , in Fulton County DA opens plea deal talks with several defendants, including Trump 2020 campaign official, in Georgia election interference case

    Yeehaw

    dangblingus , in Elon Musk appearance at Valorant Champions tournament met with boos, crowd chanting 'Bring back Twitter'

    Him showing up to a Valorant tournament is some next level “how do you do fellow kids”. Like, what’s his business being there? I mean, if you told me that he secretly just spends his days playing Valorant and shitposting on twitter, it would make a lot of sense.

    BuftaMufta ,

    heard somewhere that his son is a fan, so probably bc with him.

    Yewb ,

    Must be his yearly visit with his son

    Honytawk ,

    Which one? He has 10.

    It isn’t the one he refuses to stop deadnaming, right?

    Yewb ,

    The new one

    Saneless ,

    The quote from the article I read actually said “It is not known which of Musk’s 9 children he brought to the event”

    Which is hilarious

    negativeyoda ,

    I think it’s a safe bet it wasn’t Vivian

    victron ,
    @victron@programming.dev avatar

    He definitely surrounds himself with yes-men, mf can’t read a room.

    ShaggySnacks ,

    You could spell it out in large letters written in crayon and Elon would still fail at reading the room.

    AWittyUsername ,

    Like when he got booed at a Dave Chaplle show. The guy thinks he’s loved and adored everywhere he goes because there’s still a few pathetic worshipers on the internet.

    INeedMana , in Tulsa mom pleads guilty to allowing 12-year-old daughter to get pregnant by grown man
    @INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

    After reading the title, I did not expect this to get even more fucked up

    Miranda-Jara was initially in a relationship with the girl’s mother but when things soured between the two, mom allowed Miranda-Jara to move on to her then-12-year-old daughter. Eventually, they would begin living together as a couple

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    That is fuckin’ WILD. Holy shit.

    Kalkaline , in Grizzly bear kills couple and their dog at Banff National Park in Canada
    @Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

    “only 14% of grizzly bear attacks are fatal” seems like this just downplays the danger. If a product on the shelves had “only 14%” chance of causing cancer people would be livid.

    HubertManne ,

    Well also if your spine is cracked but your alive, its not fatal.

    AbidanYre ,

    If my spine is cracked I’m probably not making it out of the back country to get the medical care I need in order to not die.

    meco03211 ,

    I’d think in general, “just a broken back” would not be an immediate death sentence (even if it’s results in you being paralyzed and unable to effectively save yourself). However I also don’t see it being likely that’s all you’d suffer from a grizzly attack. If they’ve broken your back, you probably have one or two other injuries.

    pulaskiwasright , (edited )

    “Sharks don’t actually try to kill humans, they just get curious and take exploratory bites”

    Obviously that’s not a direct quote, but I people say things like it in defense of sharks frequently.

    guyrocket ,
    @guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

    Lol.

    Cosmonauticus ,

    Considering bears are 8ft long 900lbs killing machines an 86% survival rate is actually pretty fucking good.

    Also if you’re dumb enough to downplay the danger involving grizzly bears for any reason you’re not going to live long anyway

    meco03211 ,

    Pretty sure that is another way of saying 86% of people can successfully play dead.

    Remember folks: If it’s black, fight back. If it’s brown, lie down. If it’s white, goodnight.

    Pyr_Pressure ,

    Except some black bears are brown, so fight back if it’s a brown black bear and lie lie down if it’s a brown not-black bear (grizzly)

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever ,

    I would need to see the specifics of that statistic but understand that most people who are in a situation to be attacked by a bear have done the research on what to do.

    For a grizzly? Play dead while protecting your vitals to the best of your ability. So you either play dead or get knocked unconscious and effectively ARE dead. And then you live.

    It is mostly untrained people who have no business being in the back country who die. Or people who are unfortunate enough to get between mama and her cubs.

    So its one of those things where there are a LOT of other factors and not many actual attacks to begin with.

    Pyr_Pressure ,

    There’s actually an interesting statistic where bear attacks from black bears are more likely to happen from the males, whereas attacks from grizzlies are more likely to happen from the females.

    Black bear cubs have a strategy to run up the nearest tree when threatened and the mama bear guards the base of the tree rather than going on the offensive, so you are able to back away and avoid an attack a lot easier than a female grizzly, since grizzly cubs don’t instinctually climb trees when threatened but inside rely on the mother to defend them by going on the offensive.

    agent_flounder ,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

    Ok, but how likely is a grizzly attack?

    According to the US Natl Park Service it is 1 in 2.1 million. Dying from a bee sting is more likely.

    nationalgeographic.com/…/150916-bears-attacks-ani…

    Smoogs ,

    Well dying from a bee sting if you’re allergic is pretty common if you don’t have an epi pen. So yes, common.

    There is a massive difference and approach to bears it on a special park Vs wild.

    Over in your city folk safari zoo, in which you think you’re ‘in the wild’, you are not.

    In the wild, Grizzlies will rip you. youtu.be/K-Tfq6dARGk?si=EQLh0ahqdzOVkRWJ

    They are very fuckin dangerous. And very fuckin fast. They eat other grizzly bears without mercy too. Especially if there’s not enough salmon around.

    In Canada kills by bears in the green belt is a known risk and they have procedures to try to lessen interference with the wild life for this reason. That’s the only reason why the deaths are down. It’s not like rural people are flaunting themselves at wildlife and have them as pets. The deaths start going up when city folk start wandering into the wild thinking every bear is a big ol puppy dog.

    agent_flounder ,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

    If you have any statistics to provide I would love to see them.

    Meanwhile, yes Grizzlies can be extremely dangerous on the rare occasion they attack. How dangerous they are doesn’t change the odds of being attacked. It just means you’re more likely fucked if one does attack you. It’s ok to be scared shitless of them. I am. But don’t let the fear taint your reasoning.

    Here are some more statistics. Hopefully folks can set aside their fear for a moment and analyze the risk with a level head. Keep in mind the number of visitors to wild areas is quite large.

    • There were 183 bear attacks in North America between 2000–2015.
    • There are 40 bear attacks around the world every year.
    • The odds of being attacked by a bear are one in 2.1 million.
    • On average, 24 deaths were caused by grizzly bears between 2000–2015.
    • There were six fatal bear attacks in Alaska from 2008–2018.
    • There were 22 human-bear incidents in the US Yosemite National Park in 2019.

    petpedia.co/bear-attack-statistics/

    Oh and by the way if you think national parks are just zoos, please by all means go tell that up close to the free roaming wild moose and bears in Yellowstone or Elk in Rocky Mountain National Park, especially during the rut, and see how that works out for ya.

    Being in the backcountry where you don’t have as much wildlife management might be riskier. Although I would love to see statistics because many factors could play in. Bears being habituated to human presence and especially food is a major issue that increases bear encounters. So it’s possible that backcountry encounters are rarer than in heavily visited parks.

    Smoogs ,

    Statistics? You’re not my job. I don’t work for you. I don’t do homework. And I owe you nothing. And I especially don’t owe you free work you entitled asshat.

    And I won’t shut up from at least warning people so deal with it. And you’re so bent on hugging a grizzly, go for it mate, I can’t stop you. You’re not my job. you are absolutely full of shit.

    agent_flounder ,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

    Wow ok… Backs slowly away

    guyrocket ,
    @guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

    What an odd correlation: bear attacks and products on shelves.

    Are you implying that people might want to purchase bear attacks? Like a carnival ride?

    And there are a good number of products that do have a good chance of causing cancer...so...what was your point?

    Smoogs ,

    You seem to not understand that there are idiots that see a bear and think it’s perfectly ok to go up and pet it like a dog.

    BombOmOm , in Philadelphia journalist who advocated for homeless and LGBTQ+ communities shot and killed at home
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    Crime is pretty bad in Philadelphia, certainly not a place I would want to live. Though it does beat out St. Louis and Baltimore 3x over in murder rates.

    circuscritic ,

    He was shot 7 times. I’d bet this was personal, or that he was specifically targeted.

    To be clear, I know nothing other than what I just read in the article, but someone had to really want him dead to shoot him seven times, and no one else i.e. not a mass shooting.

    logicbomb ,

    When investigating a crime, and there is overkill like this, it usually points to a personal motive.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I bet when they find the guy he will claim skydaddy told him to do it.

    jonne ,

    Yep, this doesn’t look like a robbery.

    Wrench ,

    It takes a weekend to learn how to use lock picks to open a door in seconds. I know the police carefully frame it as “or knew how to gain entry”, but it’s not as high a bar as they make it sound.

    Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

    Ahh, I see I’m not the only fan of the lockpicking lawyer.

    Jakdracula ,
    @Jakdracula@lemmy.world avatar

    We wouldn’t want ya.

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Rural crime is pretty bad too. I’ve met literally like one person who was randomly attacked on the streets in Philly. The vast majority of crime is people killing people they know.

    BombOmOm ,
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    Philadelphia has over 3x the homicide rate as the country as a whole. Crime is quite bad in Philly.

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    TIL homicide is the only crime that exists

    Even if we’re talking about violent crime (which, itself is a minority of crime), homicide doesn’t even make up a majority or plurality

    BombOmOm ,
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s a pretty solid metric to start with as it is the hardest to fudge. Homicides will be discovered. Other crimes can easily fly under the radar if nobody reports them.

    prole ,

    Per capita. Red states are far worse when you look at an actual relevant statistic. Just Google it. Someone else in this thread even linked to the map.

    BombOmOm , (edited )
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    Per capita

    Correct. Philly has over 5x the per-capita homicide rate as the nation as a whole. The city has a high crime rate.

    Per-capita homicide rates:

    prole ,

    Bad faith, and your links prove it. Comparing apples to oranges and manipulating data to suit yourself. Your first link goes to the wiki for “crime in the United States.”

    Look at any (legitimate) source that breaks down the top most violent cities in the US, and see where Philly is on that list. Here’s one (based on FBI crime statistics): worldpopulationreview.com/…/most-violent-cities-i…

    Hmmm that’s weird, I don’t see Philadelphia at all… Baltimore is the only city I see on there that’s in the Northeast. Huh.

    Most of the cities in the top 20 are southern or Midwestern cities. Red cities and/or cities in red states.

    BombOmOm ,
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    My 2nd link is a Wikipedia list of cities by homicide rate, and Philadelphia is on it with a homicide rate 32.74. Did you even click the link?

    As I said earlier, Philadelphia has over 5x the homicide rate as the US as a whole (a rate of 6.5). Philadelphia has a high crime rate.

    bobman ,

    Can agree. Me and 4 of my friends all had our cars broken into in Houston.

    None of us reported it because we felt like there would be no point.

    prole ,

    Do you know what “per capita” means? And no, it’s not just a fancy word to make liberals’ statistics look good (yes, I’ve argued with someone who said that).

    Why don’t you take a good honest look at a map of the homicide rate per capita and learn something.

    If one were to assume you are actually correct about that number (which I don’t, I don’t buy it)… Over 3x the homicide, and over 1000x the people on average. Are you capable of understanding that basic math, or…?

    Kolrami ,

    ibb.co/ccBKjrd

    This Wikipedia article visually shows the per capita homicide rate and it’s not anywhere near as extreme as the other dude implied. …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_U.S._states_and_territor…

    It might not have been malicious though, because I see a lot of professional outlets talk about total numbers when per capita is more relevant.

    prole ,

    Hmmm, sure is interesting where the hot spots on that map are… curious.

    Kolrami ,

    A large portion of it seems to be explainable by the usual suspect: poverty.

    This is a similar map for poverty.

    census.gov/…/acs-5yr-poverty-all-counties.html

    JJROKCZ ,

    Asshats like you certainly don’t help the Lou be better, you’re welcome to stay away forever while we enjoy our T-ravs

    BombOmOm ,
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    How dare one not want to live somewhere because of… checks statement… high crime rates.

    JJROKCZ ,

    The crime rates are only the downtown city of St. Louis which due to STL’s unique political city/county split makes it an inaccurate comparison to every other city in the nation. Combine our county of city of St. Louis and St. Louis county together, and we’re not as bad as everyone makes us out to be. Every other city gets to use their full city metro area, both they love using St. Louis as a boogeyman because we’re split differently and they can count only the city downtown area for crime

    SheeEttin ,

    Every other city gets to use their full city metro area, both they love using St. Louis as a boogeyman because we’re split differently and they can count only the city downtown area for crime

    Says who? I checked the FBI crime statistics. and they have rows for the STL MSA for 2016, 2017, and 2018, though not in the latest one from 2019, probably because they didn’t report the numbers to the FBI.

    ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s

    PunnyName ,

    So, what causes crime to rise? What solutions do you offer?

    Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

    Reduce wealth and income inequality somehow. There’s been no research on UBI reducing crime afaik and honestly I don’t know that it would work for that. People need to feel like they are doing valuable work.

    Cops on foot patrol in neighborhoods NOT to punish anyone but literally just to get to know the community and make eye contact.

    Access to training and education to promote moving into higher income and responsibility jobs.

    Mental health support (although people won’t want help as long as they are Fighting against the system)

    There need to be healthy, organic, non-crime non-drug non-gang groups for people to be part of. I don’t know what is are into these days. Basketball? Dancing on Tiktok? Anything social.

    fosforus ,

    Reduce wealth and income inequality somehow.

    That’s not the whole story. Singapore is one of the safest countries in the world, and it has one of the highest gini coefficients (i.e. largest income inequality) in the world.

    prole ,

    You can also get executed for having weed.

    fosforus ,

    I’m not sure what your point is.

    PunnyName ,

    Is a place truly safe if you can be executed for having weed?

    fosforus , (edited )

    If you believe the data, apparently. I’m guessing you don’t believe the data. I’m not for even scolding people for possessing or using any drugs, personally, but this doesn’t seem to be necessarily at odds with safety.

    Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

    IIRC Singapore has a very specific and controlling demographic control system? Like regions have to have demographic breakdowns that approximate the national numbers or something?

    There are a bunch of social engineering things you can do to reduce crime. But good luck trying to tell Americans where they can and can’t move. Probably easier to just tax the super rich.

    prole ,

    More people means more crime. On the aggregate.

    This person is ignoring the fact that per capita statistics are what’s relevant here. And those are very clear. People like this just pretend they don’t exist because it literally shows the opposite is true. That red, conservative, rural areas have far more violent crime and murder per capita.

    pete_the_cat ,

    Yeah, I grew up in South Jersey, about an hour SE and there’s at least one news story about a murder that happened somewhere in Philly each night. Sometimes multiple separate shootings. Most of Philly is a shit hole.

    newthrowaway20 , in Pope urges rich world to make profound changes to tackle climate crisis

    Too little too late. We’re all fucked.

    agitatedpotato , in Pope urges rich world to make profound changes to tackle climate crisis

    You and your org lost control of the rich class a long time ago, organized religion is just for the commoners these days. You have no power here, the stock market has taken them fully.

    LEDZeppelin , in Trump reaped over $100 million through fraud, New York says as trial starts

    Naturally, republicans are nominating him to be the next house speaker.

    Kbobabob ,

    The truth is actually worse…

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    To be fair, they did that in January too, and nobody took it seriously.

    gravitas_deficiency , in Trump reaped over $100 million through fraud, New York says as trial starts

    If I was a betting man, I would say that Trump’s personal gain from this crap is probably being under-counted by a factor of at least 10

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