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anhkagi , in No doubt. Wanna fight me?
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Water is so far above everything else that EVERY SINGLE SODA is forced to add around 80% water.

This comment was made by the water gang.

RootBeerGuy ,
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You tell 'em, brother!

This comment is sponsored by the water gang.

darelik ,

Do we have a waterni hydrohomies lemmy

Edit: found it

Catsrules ,

I actually think water percentage would be in the high 90s. 80% water sounds like it would be more like syrup consistency.

Denvil ,

Google tells me 90-95% water, and 98% or more for diet

anhkagi ,
@anhkagi@jlai.lu avatar

Then water is even further above what we supposed.

fkn ,

Since soda is actually like 95-98% water, soda is basically water… Ipso facto soda homies are actually hydro homies confirmed.

anhkagi ,
@anhkagi@jlai.lu avatar

So we’re just all part of a big family ?! 😲

Daqu , in Target Acquired

Business class costs 5x economy, first class is 10x

I would have to work months to be more comfortable for a few hours. Nope.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Those taking first class peobably have their own jet anyway.

chuckleslord ,

No, it’s expensive but not “private plane” expensive. I rode first-class international once because I was recovering from covid and didn’t want to deal with the pain of coach (and the travel company that was responsible for my getting covid was paying some of the bill). I’m also 6’4" and don’t physically fit in coach. So like, yeah, I’m being physically forced out of coach cause it’s too small and I have to pay out the ass to just exist on a plane without physical pain. Must mean I have my own jet, and not that I’m getting fucked.

hydration9806 ,

From another tall guy, how was it? Obviously not worth the price, but is it absolutely not worth the price or just very not worth the price?

chuckleslord ,

It was the most comfortable plane flight in my life. It wasn’t super comfortable, the sleeper pod things are made for smaller people obviously, but there wasn’t pain and there were positions I could move through if one got a little too uncomfy. It was so nice compared to every other flight in my life.

jadedwench ,

While I am not super tall, I am heavy. The one time I got to fly international first class was the first and only time I could sleep on a plane. I got a nice large bourbon, fluffy comforter, pillow, and burrito-ed myself in that pod. It was utterly glorious. I was glad that I wasn’t paying for it… Was something around 4k for a 5-6 hour flight.

If the flight is international and sufficiently long, getting better seats is worth it. Better food. Free booze. Lounge access (it depends…). More space. If the price is right, get first.

TenderfootGungi ,

Those taking first class are often traveling on a company’s dime or using credit card points.

tastysnacks ,

Is that an exaggeration? Deltas first class is like 4x economy.

Daqu ,

I compared AA flights from NYC to Paris on Google flights. Those were the real prices.

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

The truth is.If you have first class money you have money to get your own plane and go anywhere without babies crying.

fritolay ,

Dafuq?

Bathtubwalrus ,

This isn’t true at all… My wife and I fly first class and are no where near being able to afford flying private 🤣 the no babies part would be fantastic though.

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, I’m sorry sir I’m too poor to know the differece lol.

Bathtubwalrus ,

It’s ma’am! 🤪 And huge difference, like $1000 for first class domestic, compared to $10,000 per hour for private domestic minimum or memberships that are $100k+ just to join.

8osm3rka , in I said show me the real conversation

Wait till you see public companies

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Wait till you see pubic companies

Sonotsugipaa ,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Manscaped?

KpntAutismus ,

publicly trade companies? the ones purely focused on profit? yup, hate 'em

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted ,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah I was gonna say. Not nearly as bad as public companies. I’d take private companies any fucking day of the week over those soulless bastards.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess , (edited )
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

Muffin encryption here to save us from the corpos! They can’t hurt us if they can’t access their muffins! And are getting attacked by an army of trans sharks!

Okay, I’ll stop playing with your name and instance name now! skitters away goofily

Edit: People are downvoting me because they are bad people and like to watch babies cry or something like that. That is 100% the factual reason they are doing this.

ThePyroPython ,

Wait 'till you look into the public sector (i.e. working for the government).

irmoz ,

Still more focused on results than profits tho, and more accountable

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted ,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah, I’d rather have a soulless government branch that actually fucks me over than a soulless corporation that fucks me over. At least the former tends to pay more and have better job security.

jaybone ,

Government jobs pay more than corporate jobs? That really depend on the job I guess.

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

Not in my experience. Idk how it works in the US but as a consultant I worked in public companies around the world and dude, those are the worst. They will need 2/3 people to do the job of 1 because they don’t work like private companies and don’t usually fire people as fast if they don’t have an acceptable performance. A lot of people doing nothing and 1/2 guys keeping everything running. Mind you, with public money

rtxn , in All lives rule

Both sides ARE bad. The trick is to use critical thinking and realize that one side is “stupid and misguided” bad and the other is “literal nazi, genocide against minorities, and also very stupid” bad.

NoIWontPickaName ,

Both sides are currently supporting genocide right now.

You might want to fix that.

TrickDacy ,

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  • Viking_Hippie ,

    Almost everyone with national level political power do. An open letter from House democrats to the White House urging them to work towards a ceasefire agreement had TWELVE signatures. Out of 212. And one of the 12 even tried to quietly remove her signature from it without the public noticing.

    They may not hate Palestine, but they sure as hell don’t care enough about Palestinian lives to not support the fascist Israeli government and its genocide.

    TrickDacy ,

    You make a good point

    bartolomeo OP ,
    @bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

    Israel has supreme power in the US government.

    www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/…/text

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Ain’t that the disgusting truth… 😮‍💨

    NoIWontPickaName ,

    Well the democratic president just sidestepped congressional reviews to give more tank shells to the Israelis but is struggling to provide Ukraine with materiel and shut down giving them fighter jets.

    TheSanSabaSongbird ,

    That’s begging the question in the traditional sense of the term in formal logic. First of all you have to establish that it is in fact a genocide. While what the IDF is doing probably counts as war crimes, I have yet to see a convincing case that it’s genocide in a legal sense. We’ll see. I’m more than willing to change my mind in light of new evidence or a stronger argument than I have seen thus far.

    shani66 ,

    Forcing a population off it’s land is legally genocide.

    TheSanSabaSongbird ,

    Sometimes but not always. There’s more to it in international law. That said, I realize that in arguing caution before leveling accusations of genocide, I am in the minority in this instance. My take is based on what I’ve read of expert legal opinion on the subject and not on my own evaluation of the IDF’s moral position.

    The long and short of it is that there are matters of intent that have to be shown in order to have a case for genocide. Thus far, regardless of how we think about the IDF vis war-crimes, I have yet to see a convincing argument for genocide on a legal basis.

    You may say that this is a distinction without a difference, and while I’m sympathetic to that idea, I still think it’s worthwhile to maintain these sharp legal definitions.

    NoIWontPickaName ,

    Ok so you don’t consider what they are doing genocidal actions.

    Forcing people out of their homes, cutting off all electricity, food, and water while having them in a complete barricade and shutting down or extremely limiting aid, while destroying 80% of housing is Genocide.

    If you feel the need to try and hide behind obfuscation then you do you but I can call a spade a spade.

    AstridWipenaugh ,

    From Oxford, the traditional dictionary:

    gen·o·cide

    noun

    the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

    What part of that is Israel not doing?

    Or we can go with the legal definition from the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide linked from www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml.

    Article II

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    • (a) Killing members of the group;
    • (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    • © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    • (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    • (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    The only one in question is the last point, but any single one of those points means it’s a genocide.

    dgmib ,

    I’m genuinely not sure which side you think is which.

    Anticorp ,

    genocide against minorities

    Hyperbole? What are you talking about?

    lolcatnip ,

    Trans people.

    leave_it_blank , in Take that YouTube

    It’s funny. Before this crackdown none of my co-workers used adblockers. To install an add-on was too much hassle. They just watched the ads.

    Now suddenly they became interested after hearing about them again, and almost all are running Firefox with ublock origin now.

    YouTube should have just kept quiet, I don’t believe they are better off now more than before.

    BeigeAgenda ,
    @BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

    Great, let the Streisand effect bite Google in the bum.

    baascus ,
    @baascus@lemmy.world avatar

    If Twitch taught us anything, this is just the beginning.

    Vej ,

    What happened on twitch?

    Nythos ,

    Made it more difficult to block ads than YouTube’s pathetic attempt.

    bjoern_tantau ,
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    I was really surprised (and annoyed) to see some ads on Twitch yesterday.

    Gormadt ,
    @Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Straight up the first ads I’ve seen in a long time were on twitch.

    Then of course the first ad I see was for Narcan followed by an ad for Smirnoff.

    God I fucking hate ads

    MonkderZweite ,

    Ads need to be clearly identifiable as such here.

    ComradeWeebelo ,

    Twitch embeds ads directly into the stream now. They’re next to impossible to block now, though I’ve heard some people say it’s still possible.

    TalkingCat ,

    Try ttv-lol-pro, it works for me.

    CanadianCarl ,

    I will have to try that. My way of blocking twitch ads is using my vpn. But it disconnects me from chat for a few seconds, when an ad should appear.

    can ,
    Sabre363 , in Seriously spends $80 to drive 20km..

    I had a supervisor that blew his entire OT and 401k on $90000 truck and proceeded to complain about how shit the gas mileage was.

    Tak ,
    @Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

    Meanwhile I bet a prius will carry 99% of what they put in it

    azimir ,

    My Subaru Forester with a roof rack hauls almost anything short of large furniture or a yard of gravel.

    Tak ,
    @Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

    See that’s what gets me. You need a very specifically large load that is (in my experience) extremely rare. In the gas savings alone you could just rent a truck when you need to move gravel or large furniture and not scratch up your $90,000 truck.

    AstridWipenaugh ,

    It costs like $30 to rent a box truck from home depot to take a big load home. I can get a few sheets of plywood on my Outback with a couple ratchet straps and not going over 40 lol.

    niucllos ,

    Hell a roof rack on my 20 year old 3 series and a ton of rope has moved sofas, plywood and pallets, and one memorable trip 5 bikes

    pedalmore ,

    The people I know with expensive trucks still get everything delivered anyway. There’s always some excuse why their super versatile amazingly useful truck isn’t quite the right tool for the job, but somehow it’s always the right tool to drive around town to their office job or the grocery store. Literally makes zero sense, ever.

    knobbysideup ,

    Hitch and a trailer is how I deal with that with my Crosstrek.

    azimir ,

    I’ve been seriously considering getting a hitch and a light trailer. It would be more than sufficient for nearly everything we do, especially if it could haul a motorcycle when needed.

    Sabre363 ,

    Oh, they would never put anything in it. That might scratch the bed.

    zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

    Does the remaining 1% get resold by shady people in back alleys? “Hey you, you want a deal on 1% of some produce from a farmer’s market? Fell off the back of a Prius.”

    scrubbles ,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    They brag about being able to carry stuff then get one of those stupid long cab short beds that are good at nothing

    Tavarin ,
    @Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

    Hey, they aren’t good at nothing. They excel at killing pedestrians.

    ours ,

    The Tesla Cybertruck will certainly be the ultimate truck for killing kids.

    CleoTheWizard ,
    @CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes but at least the blood will be easier to wipe off of the stainless steel.

    Riccosuave , (edited ) in Columbine vibes
    @Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

    XxEdgeLord69420xX

    statist43 ,

    Hey man, his son has nothing to do with this!

    Riccosuave ,
    @Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar
    casmael ,

    Man edging has a real different meaning these days huh ;)

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    2003: “You’re so edgy 🙄” 2023: “You’re so edgy 🥵”

    Mothra ,
    @Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

    Man, nothing escapes global warming

    pleb_maximus ,

    Sure is more fun nowadays though

    SuckMyWang ,

    It’s always meant being on the edge

    casmael ,

    Yeah but now it means being on the edge ;)

    flicker , in Trust me bro it's 100% true

    Back in the dark times when I was an admin for a very popular website, some very hateful nazis were sharing images of a dead Jewish child and laughing and claimed to be literally jerking off to the image. They claimed she was 9.

    So yknow. Not in a hurry to see pics. Just want a trusted source to verify that they exist.

    SuckMyWang , (edited )

    Without knowing for sure if I saw what the topic is about, I saw 3 images released by an Israel news organisation or government I’m not sure. The first image showed a dead infant that didn’t appear beheaded, I really couldn’t tell the cause of death there were possibly shrapnel wounds but the head was blurred and appeared to be attached. The other 2 appeared to be badly burned (blackened) and deformed, my guess would have been burned in a fire or bomb attack. Going off face value they could have been from either side as none of the images were identifiable in any way and none appeared beheaded imo. There may be other photos but I believe these are the ones in question but could be wrong of course.

    greyscale ,
    @greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    The one ben shapiro was yelling about was debunked as a burned dog

    shiveyarbles ,

    Ok, well the president of the United States said it was true so you’re all set.

    misaloun OP ,

    I obviously am not happy to watch decapitated children. The meme is poking fun at the fact that Israel lied about this incident.

    nogooduser , in Reddit be like

    Same if they say to disable your ad blocker.

    NegativeLookBehind ,
    @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

    I love when they give you instructions on how to disable it. Lol, fuck you, website.

    germtm_ ,

    or if they try to guilt-trip you into disabling the ad blocker with a frowny face or something.

    NegativeLookBehind ,
    @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

    Every time you block an ad, a puppy gets hit by a truck. Is that really what you want?

    :(

    psycho_driver ,

    Is that really what you want?

    If that is really what you want, can we interest you in our special premium membership with curated run-over-puppies content?

    nogooduser ,

    Technically, I don’t block ads. I block trackers using privacy badger. If they were to just show me ads without trying to track me I’d be fine and they’d get some ad revenue. But they always put trackers in there, I see no ads and they get no money.

    NegativeLookBehind ,
    @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

    Ad creators hate this one weird trick!

    Gullible ,

    Just a heads up, privacy badger effectively doesn’t do anything besides take up resources and make you slightly more fingerprintable as compared to simply using ublock. All of its useful behaviors were culled a few years ago, funny enough, due to fingerprinting. Its blocklist is severely out of date.

    nogooduser ,

    I was aware that they made that change but I didn’t know it made it worse for tracker blocking. I don’t see ads and I don’t get the external discussions such as discus so it seems to work.

    I’ll check it out.

    workinkindofhard ,

    Every time you block an ad, a puppy gets hit by a truck. Is that really what you want?

    I love puppies but I hate ads, sorry rover

    kratoz29 ,

    And the instructions are always wrong… I’m not using AdBlock Plus, and they forget to include how to disable the PiHole 😂

    rtxn ,

    That’s when bab-defuser.js and the element zapper get to shine.

    henfredemars ,

    Trust is broken. Ads have been abused where I have to block by default unless I already trust your website.

    I’m not risking malware for some strangers advertisements.

    nogooduser ,

    Yeah, I agree. I never really minded ads as I just mentally ignore them so I didn’t use an ad blocker for a very long time after it was common practice. I also disagreed with the principle of ad blockers as sites need to pay their expenses.

    But then they abused the data that they collected to change people’s political opinions in a way that went way beyond just your standard political ads and that was it for me.

    Glide , in Want some so bad but not willing to trade organs for it

    Fuck Doordash, fuck Uber Eats, fuck Skip the Dishes. These greedy motherfuckerswant me to pay a delivery fee, a “convinience fee”, AND up charge me on my food, and act like triple dipping into my pocket isn’t a fucking crime. Then they have the gall to tell me that waiting an hour and a half for my food while my driver sits in a random-ass parking lot to receive luke-warm food is acceptable delivery time and service and ask for a fucking tip.

    And worse, no one wins! The restaurants hate it because they’re paying fees out the ass and receiving hate for the delivery services failures, the driver’s hate it because they’re not being given a fair wage, and the end consumer hates it because they’re paying literally 1.5x the cost of already inflating food prices! The only winner is corporate of whatever company you’re using, all to save you a, what, 10-15 minute drive?

    Fuck em’, I will hop in my car and go pick up my food every single day of the week. I’m never too lazy to tell a bullshit service like those to go fuck itself.

    scrubbles ,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    Fuck the whole thing, and especially the tipping bit. You want a trip, read the subreddit /r/doordash, (back when I was on reddit that is). Some greedy ass MFs live in there swapping stories about how they’ll gladly turn down jobs because the tip wasn’t high enough.

    Like what, am I supposed to tip you 30% just to have my food delivered? Fuck that. Tipping is supposed to be a thank you on top of it, not a bribe to convince you to do your job. Tipping should come after everything where I can decide how well you did. There are horror stories where they’ve texted asking for a higher tip and worse yet holding onto the food demanding a higher tip or the people don’t get their food.

    You’re exactly right, I just get my ass in the car and go get it now. It had a purpose during covid, but now they can go pound sand. Last time I did it was exactly the same as yours, I watched my food get assigned to a driver who sat for a parking lot for 10 minutes before deciding he should go pick up my order (which was fast food, and ready immediately, and sitting there getting cold).

    Soulg ,

    Those people are doing that to make money, if I see a trip that’s 20-30 minutes total of driving but only get $4-5 for it, I’m declining it. If you think that makes me greedy, then I’m glad you’ve had such a privileged life.

    scrubbles , (edited )
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    That’s placing your anger and low pay on the customers, not the corporation that’s holding 50% of your profits. You want to be mad, be mad at them, refuse to drive for them, demand a better share.

    My last meal from door dash breaks down as:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">Food: $58.80
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">"Delivery Fee": $3.99
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">"Service Fee": $8.82
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Tax: $7.34
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Tip: $8
    </span>
    

    So sorry I didn’t want to tack on any more to my $85 dollar order for 2 people. “Recommended tip” would have put me over $95 dollars. Let me put it this way, if I paid $85 dollars for a delivery order and you only made $8, we’re both getting screwed.

    The fun thing, I’d be willing to tip more if they didn’t ask for it up front. If I received my order in a timely manner and it’s still hot, I’d gladly tip 20%. But being forced to choose ahead of time? No way I know how it’s going to get there, that’s why I call it a bribe. The driver isn’t doing their job and I’m tipping them on a job well done, I’m bribing them to get my food quickly.

    Granted that was the last time and I was disgusted with how much I paid, so I go and pick it up myself now, so I guess no money for anyone except the restaurant.

    If you’re only getting $4-5 dollars for 30 minutes, I’d suggest going to McDonald’s. They’re paying better than doordash.

    spiderjuzce ,

    As a former driver I agree. I always feel bad about the tip thing but gas is so expensive and the apps pay like shit despite charging so many fees. And knowing that restaurants also pay a fee meaning the apps get MORE money is even more infuriating.

    Kekzkrieger ,

    maybe just cook a few times a week yourself

    abk16 ,

    I wonder if there could exist a solution for services like these, but decentralized, as to cut out the greedy middleman as much as possible. I mean, lemmy sort of is the application of this concept. Sure, there’s still costs with running servers etc., but the protocol regulates much of the interaction.

    deathbird ,

    The company (Uber, Instacart, etc) is basically:

    1. An app for drivers/shoppers.
    2. An app for consumers.
    3. The servers to facilitate communication.
    4. A subcontracted call center in India for support and customer service.
    5. A third-party payroll processor.
    6. A handful of administrative people and techs to keep it running. Plus some shareholders to take the money.

    So not counting drivers and contracted services, it’s practically a small business. Seems easy enough to emulate.

    TimeSquirrel , in hypocrisy
    @TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

    "No offense, but..."

    [Offends]

    maltasoron ,

    “Needless to say,…”

    [Says it anyway]

    Nelots ,

    I like the idea of people saying “Needless to say…” and then just ending their sentence, leaving you wondering what they planned to say.

    lugal ,

    Needless to say

    u202307011927 ,
    @u202307011927@feddit.de avatar

    I’m sitting here for 16 hours now wondering about what you wanted to say!

    lugal ,

    Needless to say I know it neither

    captain_aggravated ,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    That’s a fantastic joke from Futurama. At Farnsworth’s…roast?..Bender steps to the podium and says "And now, a man who needs no introduction, " and walks off.

    BeardedSingleMalt ,

    "I don't wanna talk about it..."

    [Proceeds to talk about it for 15 straight minutes]

    Wussy , in The forbidden peach.

    The garden of Eden Dat Ass.

    ShranTheWaterPoloFan , in Why must we be done this way?

    What would you prefer the school do?

    How could they motivate you to actually pay attention in class instead of playing with your phone? Honestly ask yourself if this “addressing motivation” would make geometry more interesting than tiktok.

    radioactiveradio ,

    Maybe if they used blender(the software) to explain it.

    SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT ,

    If they try to use a blender (the kitchen appliance), I’m sure it will also become interesting.

    Rootiest ,

    The blending will continue until morale improves

    joeldebruijn ,

    Blended Learning tho … 😁

    troglodytis ,

    Trigonometry smoke. Don’t breathe this.

    TehPers ,

    “Today in class we will be finding out whether or not triangles will blend. Please put on these safety goggles before sitting at your desks.”

    cabbagee ,

    Well said. Social media is designed specifically to hold attention and encourage addictive behavior. There’s no way to compete.

    electrogamerman ,

    In one episode of hannah montanna they use a song and dance to learn about the skeleton bones. I still remember the song after like 10 years, lol

    _number8_ , (edited )

    not treat students like indentured servants? productively encourage them to pay attention instead of imposing austere zero tolerance policies? do you really think that people in ancient greece paid attention to every second of lecture because there weren’t any phones?

    could you, yes you, in your day to day life, handle being forced to go through school again? to learn something new every hour of every weekday and being given obligatory deadlines, not even being paid for the work, having to be there at like 7:30am, having even less control over your personhood and freedom just a few years after being born?

    school didn’t have to suck as much as it did.

    Aagje_D_Vogel , (edited )

    could you, yes you, in your day to day life, handle being forced to learn something new every hour of every weekday and being given deadlines, not even being paid for the work, having to be there at like 7:30am, having even less control over your personhood or freedom just a few years from being born?

    The fuck you think everyone has to go through in their lives prior to being an adult.

    Edit: though

    BCsven ,

    Sounds like everyday work life

    Jaccident ,

    This opinion is wild bud. Firstly, I disagree with the every hour of every weekday; once you take into account breaks, lunches, the much shorter working day, sports, and the way classes should usually be front-loaded with information then flipped for engagement, you’re maybe spending 10-15 hours a week “learning” and the rest practicing/applying. In my career I’ve generally had to spend much more than that each week learning.

    Secondly you aren’t slaves, you have the option to down tools and just remain poorly educated without ramifications that endanger you immediate life/safety. That you don’t is as much to do with knowing it’s a shit idea, as it is societal pressure.

    Thirdly, the people of Ancient Greece didn’t pay attention every second, but when their mind wandered they were at least able to move back to the topic at hand, tbh, if you miss enough context scrolling reels, you won’t be able to catch back up, and so many will just give up and stay on their phones.

    Lastly, society around you pays for your education, it’s part of the social contract we live in. The resourcing of schools is already woefully low, please define how stretching those resources to accommodate completely preventable delinquency, is at all worthwhile. By draining time you aren’t only robbing the school, you’re taking from the students next to you who don’t want to spend their time acting like entitled children.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    Instead of squeezing school children, we could tax the wealthy at all? That is, if money is your concern.

    SwampYankee ,

    In my career I’ve generally had to spend much more than that each week learning.

    Important point. If you’re in a career that’s at all demanding, you are going to be learning for the rest of your life. School prepares you for that. The specifics aren’t important, what you should be learning in school is approaches to research, study, and problem solving. Schools could probably do more to make that clear.

    papertowels ,

    Your statement would sound a lot less dramatic if not for the fact that literally everyone goes to school.

    “Not being paid for your work” 🤣🤣🤣

    My man, your book report is contributing nothing to society. Future scholars will not look upon it with awe. It is purely an exercise to help students as a whole develop as individuals.

    Here’s my question - how do you expect teachers, who are actually providing society with a much-needed service, who are already well understood to be overworked and underpaid, to productively encourage students to pay attention?

    TheRealKuni ,

    could you, yes you, in your day to day life, handle being forced to learn something new every hour of every weekday and being given obligatory deadlines, not even being paid for the work, having to be there at like 7:30am, having even less control over your personhood and freedom just a few years after being born?

    Bruh, you’re arguing with people who have already gone through school.

    Yeah it sucks sometimes, we all know. We did it. The exact thing you’re bitching about and acting like no one else knows how bad you have it? We did it.

    When adults tell teenagers that they understand, they aren’t just saying that because they want the teenagers to listen. They’re saying it because they remember when everything seemed so profoundly unfair. We really do understand…but you’re still wrong.

    School sometimes sucks, but what you gain from it is remarkable. Take advantage of it, because work load only increases from here. You are at a time of your life where your major duty is to learn stuff and then prove you learned it. You may very well someday look back on this and go, “Damn, wish I’d appreciated it more.”

    kmkz_ninja ,

    Are you over 35?

    Telling a kid, “Yeah, it sucks and it isn’t going to get any better,” is the last thing you should tell a kid in these modern times. That’s half the reason so many people are suffering mentally. The lack of an ability to affect change because stubborn goons with more power than them assume they know how things should be done.

    TheRealKuni ,

    Are you over 35?

    Nope, but not far off.

    I will admit that I could’ve added a more of, “but life does get a lot better when you’re the one making choices.” But honestly I think, in the near-dystopian society we labor through, that the boredom of school can be a helpful preparation for the monotony of entry-level work.

    I’m trying to commiserate on some level. Life can be hard, I’m not going to lie about that. I dealt with my share of crushing depression in my 20s. But for many it is worth it, and education can help it be less difficult in the long run.

    I guess the point I should be trying to make is that finding ways to actively engage with things that aren’t your preferred activity is a vital skill for enjoying life. School becomes less monotonous when you make an effort to enjoy it, not when you rely on your teachers for that and spend your time pining for your dopamine source. The same is true for shitty work. Embracing it and finding ways to keep your mind engaged can make terrible work far better. It’s how I survived years of working fast food, retail, and call centers until I finally got a job I truly enjoy in software.

    And of course this carries throughout personal lives as well. Being able to put down the keyboard/controller/phone and clean the house is a necessity, one I still struggle with.

    The lack of an ability to affect change because stubborn goons with more power than them assume they know how things should be done.

    Yeah but this is, maddeningly, pretty much the way life is.

    By the way, the point here isn’t that it would be bad if teachers could make school more engaging than YouTube and TikTok, but rather that it’s impossible for the average teacher to make school more engaging than a student’s phone. So get used to it. Required activities will never consistently outperform entertainment, at any point in your life.

    This isn’t meant to be doom and gloom. It’s meant to be honest. Learn to love life, because life won’t always make loving it easy. But it will be worth it, at least in my experience.

    5redie8 ,

    This is how work operates, except I’m there for two more hours.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    You can quit work, and you have rights. Children have neither.

    Jaccident ,

    You can quit work and starve. You can quit school and get in a little bit of trouble. I don’t really see the equivalence here.

    Children have lots of rights in this analogy, in fact in a great many places, they also have a right to be cared for by the state that adults don’t. Statutory service provision routinely is written in protection of children.

    Weirdly, most people don’t have a right to take out and use their phone when working, and given that’s the thread topic it’s a decent sized hole in your argument. I worked a high-wage and technical role, white collar as it gets, and you know where my phone was when I was meant to be concentrating on my work, in my pocket. Know what would happen if I was fucking about on it when I had something important to do? Disciplinary, HR, threatened loss of livelihood. If you’re arguing you’re not being treated like adults, I have bad news for you.

    Look, you’re not some oppressed underclass of unperson and your myopic determination to cast yourself as such is a genuine insult to people living under actual hardship.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    First, school kids need rules, and school is good.

    I also don’t think 1 short comment deserves:

    Look, you’re not some oppressed underclass of unperson and your myopic determination to cast yourself as such is a genuine insult to people living under actual hardship.

    Most jobs don’t really care if you’re on your phone if you are on break. Some jobs don’t care so long as work gets done. It seems your job or career is less forgiving than most.

    I don’t know why you’re acting like a blanket ban is a good thing, and I don’t know why you assume thinking that we should treat children and teenagers with a level of respect means I think that children are being treated like cattle.

    Maybe you get off on enforcing broad policies, but I’m not a chud.

    SpaceNoodle ,

    My school solved it by existing before smartphones did

    Ryan213 , in Credit to George Alexopoulos (GPrime85 on twitter) my absolute favorite right wing cartoonist
    @Ryan213@lemmy.world avatar

    She’s probably already pregnant from her youth pastor.

    JusticeForPorygon ,
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    Reverse baptism: when the devil tells the priest to get out of the child.

    TokyoMonsterTrucker ,

    THE YOUTH PASTOR PREGNANCY ABORTIONS FOR MY LITTLE SUSIE ARE JUST FINE.

    It’s all the other little whores who are enjoying sex or may die from their pregnancies that we really worry about. Those babies need to be saved for Jesus.

    Starshader ,

    We’re talking about a religion based on the fact that a god made a girl pregnant without her consent. So I guess it’s part of their beliefs ?

    Kandorr , in *patriotic guitar twangles*

    I feel like I should be happy to not recognize this person.

    June ,

    Same

    whatisallthis ,

    You must not subscribe to Politcal Outrage Weekly

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