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problematicPanther , in And how's there a car in a mall? Life's important questions
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

Personally, i assumed that being on fire was something i would have to go through at least once in my life. But as time goes on, i have not had the need to, even once, stop, drop or roll.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

The back of my jacket caught fire once around a firepit. Can confirm that “stop drop and roll” fixes that situation really quickly.

Probably only time I’ll need that reflex though 🤞🏻

moistclump ,

I once fell ass backwards into a fire pit. I was stopped and dropped but I could not roll. Was pulled out pretty quickly but my butt will forever have those burns.

the_artic_one ,

Clothes have become a lot less flammable over the years and open fireplaces aren’t the primary heating method for most houses anymore.

jballs ,
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There was a time in 1999 where quite a few of us had to stop, drop, shut em down open up shop.

dependencyinjection ,

Oooh nooo

rob_t_firefly ,
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I’ve done a lot of separate stopping, dropping, and/or rolling in my time, but never in that particular sequence for purposes of fire extinguishing.

Enkrod , in Which option lads?
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Breathing is at least 150k a year, that’s more than enough, even after taxes and has me covered when I’m old and can’t go for a walk anymore.

I don’t need more, I’d rather enjoy my quiet time and taking an walk and standing still for a while at a nice vista, enjoying the view. I don’t need the constant chase for money and even more money in my life and the stress of having to keep moving to get even more. When I walk at the beach with my better half, I’d rather think of how nice this is rather than how much this earns me.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Consider this: you can become a multimillionaire within a year of the step option, and have even less stress as you become able to live off investments for the rest of your life. You can even run for charity to have a more fulfilling life if you so choose, it stops being a constant chase for money.

Winning Capitalism is all about investing enough to take care of your needs indefinitely. With the step option, you win, and retain the ability to gain more money if you wish. With breath, you deprive yourself of that option.

zalgotext ,

I don’t care about “winning capitalism”, I care about living a comfortable life and being able to pursue my hobbies. $150k a year is more than enough, and I don’t have to worry about investment bullshit, it’s just guaranteed constant income. As long as I’m alive, I’ll be breathing, that’s 100% guaranteed. Winning the stock market is not guaranteed, and being able to use my legs for the rest of my life is also not guaranteed.

Cowbee ,
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Winning the stock market is guaranteed unless society collapses just by investing in a broad market fund. You don’t worry, you just make money. 150k is not enough in many cities to have a family, unfortunately, and you also can’t run for charity.

You don’t need to use your legs after the first bit. You get in shape, and then you have well over 150k, not losing to inflation with no raises ever again. You’re done.

zalgotext ,

$150k per year for the rest of my life would be way more than enough for me and the lifestyle I want to live. I currently make less than that, but still have enough to invest and donate to charity, so this would be just a straight, guaranteed upgrade with zero changes to my current life.

I understand that I could make more with the steps option, but I’d be thinking about it. Any time I was off my feet, I’d be thinking to myself, “I’m missing out on money right now”, and I don’t want to have that nag for the rest of my life. Give me the no-work, no-change, fully automatic upgrade over the steps option every day of the week.

jdeath ,

it’s funny how many armchair money managers we have here who want to give up huge passive income in order to… have more money to invest and eventually get passive income.

how much would an annuity that pays $150k/yr cost for somebody in their 20s or 30s? I can’t imagine it being less than $10 million. probably more like $50 million. so the logic is give up $10-$50 million in value, for the opportunity to maybe make it up in the long run, while hoping you never get injured or debilitated…

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

3.75 million dollars in a high yield savings account right now pays 150k per year, at a rate of 4% annually. Investing in the broad market pays 6%ish per year after adjusting to inflation.

You can make multiple millions off of intentionally jogging per year, which pretty much debunks your point. Yes, breathing is more passive, but will lose to inflation compared to what you can gain comparatively immediately with steps.

areyouevenreal ,

Someone did the math. It’s $315,000 not $150.000. So plenty to live on and still have some left for investment.

As for winning capitalism: capitalism is a travesty that’s killing both people and the planet. I would rather people stop talking about winning such a system - there are truly no victors. To be the victor in capitalism is to be a cell of a tumor that slowly kills its host; you only live until you finish killing the host or the host fights back. We should kill and consume those responsible for capitalism like macrophages consume cancer.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh there are Victors, the only real chance at liberation a Proletarian can have is to either end Capitalism itself, or join the bourgeoisie. At least if you have a ton of money, you can donate to strike funds.

areyouevenreal ,

The issue here is capitalism will destroy the environment so you won’t have anywhere to go eventually, at least if you’re not a billionaire. This is what I mean about killing the host, the bourgeoisie are slowly killing society and the planet.

spader312 ,

Also keeps you in shape!

einat2346 ,

Per en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_year 525,600 minutes per year

Per www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537306/ 12 breaths per minute for an adult (which you should be for the mind cesspool that is the internet)

525,600 minutes by 12 by $0.05 is $315,360.00 per year.

Breathing is at least 150k a year

I decry you as needs improvement at maths.

funkless_eck ,

mf just OFSTED inspected my dude

Enkrod ,
@Enkrod@feddit.de avatar

is at least

jdeath ,

yeah uh, let me just double check these figures… yes, that’s absolutely correct! 300k is more than 150k, and therefore the person who needs remedial mathematics is not GP.

____ ,

I am old enough (and was a theatre geek as a kid) to know the number of minutes in a year without needing Wiki…

…Thanks, Rent.

PotatoKat ,

How do you measure, measure a year?

bss03 ,

Love?

MrShankles ,

Cups of coffee?

Sticker , in Average website visit in 2024

Most of all, I was sick of the captcha from cloudflare.
On some sites, there was endless checking and it was impossible to view the content of the site.

aBundleOfFerrets ,

They think u a bot

PumpkinEscobar ,

Yeah, too many sites I’ve done 3+ captchas and still won’t let me in, and not even the ones where 1 cell has either a shadow or a sliver of a bike tire. And reports that bots are now better at passing these than people. I won’t use a site with a pick-the-squares captcha anymore.

Click a slider is the most I’ll do. If anyone needs me I’ll be over here hanging out with the bots that are too shitty to pass a captcha.

EuroNutellaMan ,
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I had to disable user agents or else I could simply not look at any website “protected” by cloudflare

mojofrododojo , in Hmmm...

such a negative way to put it. I smoke weed. Into geology. Who doesn’t like fossils right?

And who doesn’t have some kind of internal monologue, even if it’s just the ‘haha you fucked that up nicely’ sarcasm when you bang your feet on some furniture? slandering all those decent, fine things with spirituality seems rude, and uncalled for.

Leg ,

That was my reaction as well.

“I do have voices in my head. They’re called thoughts, and I highly recommend the experience.”

mojofrododojo ,

“I do have voices in my head. They’re called thoughts, and I highly recommend the experience.”

Well put!

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

But who is the author of said thoughts? From whence do they arise? If you look carefully you’ll find that there is no author and that the self is an illusion that arises from the nature of consciousness. This is the essential insight of Buddhism and other contemplative traditions.

Leg ,

I like to think consciousness is just a higher self that creates a projection that we understand to be our “self”. The projection and its source are both representations of the same self, making my thoughts a product of my self. Or in other words, I can claim to be the author of my own thoughts.

capital ,

I’ve been doing the intro course on Sam Harris’ app Waking Up.

Meditation is kind of hard.

chatokun ,

Some people evidently do not hear a voice in their head. It generally blows the minds of people who do, but minds are so varied its possible we’re misunderstanding each other when discussing voices in head. Similar to the question if two people see red, but only know it’s red because someone taught them, can we be absolutely sure we both experience the exact same “red”?

If your mental white balance is off, everything would vary in the same amount, but if you could b9th project the image you see somehow into another mind it would look different.

Batbro ,

I hear my voice(as if I’m talking to myself), but it sounds like you mean another voice?

AnarchistArtificer ,

I think what chatokun is talking about is that some people don’t hear their own voice in the way that you describe. I think I am similar to you, in that my thoughts often form a clear, internal dialogue, but I know people who just don’t. It baffles me, because I can’t imagine what the inside of their head must sound like.

On the flip side, I am fairly sure that I have aphantasia (lack of ability to visualise), so often people get confused at this in a similar way. If you’ve never had a thing and don’t really understand what it feels like, it’s hard to understand what you’re apparently missing

XEAL , in It takes a village

I’m making custom cards for Cards Against Humanity and this is gold

fidodo , in Post pics of unwashed shelf-stable eggs (this scares the americans)

The biggest reason eggs are refrigerated in the US is because they’re not vaccinated for salmonella, so refrigeration is needed to inhibit growth. The US was able to do that since they have the infrastructure for end to end refrigeration. It’s not necessarily wrong, it’s just another way to do it. Since salmonella can also be on the outside of the egg they need to be washed, and since they’re refrigerated the loss of the protective layer doesn’t matter. I guess in Europe with the vaccination it also lowers the chance of salmonella on the outside of the egg allowing the outside to remain unwashed and protective of the inside making refrigeration unnecessary. There’s just not enough of a reason to change things in the us now since the refrigeration method is already in place and switching would cost more up front. The main downside is that you can’t eat raw eggs in the US which means some dishes can’t be made, but the vast majority of the US isn’t interested in raw egg dishes anyways.

Socsa ,

People in the US eat raw eggs all the time. Salmonella outbreaks from eggs are almost unheard of.

Also, washed or unwashed, eggs will keep longer in the fridge. And it makes for a less cluttered pantry. There’s really zero reason for Europeans to be smug about this.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

There’s really zero reason for Europeans to be smug about this.

So I can see that you don’t really understand the European mindset

Kryptenx ,

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  • SirQuackTheDuck ,

    Sarcasm.

    SkippingRelax ,

    By that reasoning, washed or unwashed everything keeps longer in the freezer. And it makes for a less cluttered pantry AND fridge.

    TheLowestStone ,
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    Except for the part where freezing food effects flavor and texture.

    doingthestuff ,

    Yeah Ive lived in Europe and the US and raised chickens and have done it both ways. It’s kinda nice having eggs that aren’t covered in bird shit though.

    TCB13 ,
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    There’s just not enough of a reason to change things in the us now since the refrigeration method is already in place and switching would cost more up front.

    Cutting on electricity and washing costs?

    oatscoop ,

    The main downside is that you can’t eat raw eggs in the US

    You can buy pasteurized eggs, though they can be hard to find. You can also DIY them with a sous vide cooker.

    iAvicenna ,
    @iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

    DIY as in like cook them?

    Gimpydude ,

    You can sous vide eggs to pasteurize them and they are still raw. That’s what they do when they make cookie dough to eat raw.

    oatscoop ,

    Sous vide is just accurately holding a water bath at a given temperature. You put your food in (in a baggie if necessary) at a specific temperature and time to achieve a consistent “doneness”.

    130-140 farenheit for an hour is enough to kill pathogens in eggs, but low enough it doesn’t cook them.

    NegativeInf , in Unpopular opinion

    “In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move”

    dual_sport_dork ,
    @dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

    Alternately:

    “The Big Bang creates the universe as we know it. The protons, neutrons, and electrons that will eventually compose Transformers are formed, ruining it forever. A Thursday.”

    (via)

    FlyingSquid OP ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I think there is a happy medium between that and ‘we should never have left the oceans’ and that happy medium is ‘before nuclear fusion.’

    db2 , in How much for cuddles?

    The creepiest thing about that is how she wants her husband to be her child and still put his penis in her mouth. Fucked. Up.

    iheartneopets ,

    I would say the creepiest part is that this man needs a childish chart like this just to take care of his children. She’s not his mom and honestly they should talk separation instead of having to come up with incentive charts just to get him to be a father.

    0x4E4F ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Sometimes, the latter is easier for the children’s sake. I can confirm from experience.

    db2 ,

    Where in there do you see there being a need?

    Laticauda , in 🤢...

    I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn’t be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.

    mako , (edited )

    I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.

    First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is “logically” equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn’t a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.

    Human shit also doesn’t only contain bacteria. There’s an estimated 100 million - 1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of wet shit and there’s still around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let’s not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.

    Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for days on end would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.

    This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can’t be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They’re disinformation and in some cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.

    Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be. Cite your sources.

    Laticauda ,

    I didn’t say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don’t put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said “eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish” nor did I say anything close to that. I said “both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn’t do it anyway”.

    tomi000 ,

    You literally said ‘isnt much better’. A magnitude of a few thousand is ‘much better’ in my opinion.

    Noone likes being criticized but this could be an opportunity to embrace it and learn something.

    Ashelyn ,

    The real question here is how many grams of shit are actually in the bristles of a used toilet brush

    PopMyCop ,

    Also how many microbes (because mako used number of actual organisms per gram to make his numbers big and scary) per visible colony or growth that you’d see on a plate with food that’s been left out for several days.

    What he should have elaborated on, instead of only a single sentence with a curse word for emphasis, is that the microbes in your fecal matter are more likely to be able to survive inside of your body if they make it past your innate defenses when consumed. They were already in one area and survived, and now they may be entering a different area (which is one of the major ways infections can happen). You have plenty of microbes happily surviving on your skin, in your digestive tract, etc. without causing any issues, but if they make it elsewhere, some pretty nasty infections result. Look up Staphylococcus epidermidis and its outcomes for people who have plastic medical devices implanted, even though it’s really great for you to have it on your skin.

    Lifebandit666 ,

    Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes.

    No they don’t, don’t project onto the world what you think is normal. Everyone I know washes up or puts the dishwasher on straight after they’ve eaten, then puts their dishes away when they’re clean and dried.

    Twelve20two ,

    Wait, you know folks who regularly run the dishwasher each day?

    Lifebandit666 ,

    I do yes

    Twelve20two ,

    Wow. It usually takes my partner and I two or three days to fill it. I should look up the specifics of the model and see if the energy saving option is worth it for small loads

    Lifebandit666 ,

    Ah that’s the issue. The people I know have 2 kids, so it takes half the time to fill the dishwasher.

    Personally I only run the dishwasher when we have people round for food and drinks. Otherwise I wash up the old fashioned way because it saves power.

    where_am_i ,

    yay, the brutal science man to the rescue!

    mako , (edited )

    I don’t know what “brutal science” is but I do know that the scientific process was used in many peer-reviewed studies to understand what lives in our shit. That holds a lot more weight for me than what an anonymous poster feels might be right in regards to the same subject matter.

    Furthermore, the greater concept here is that we as a species have access to actual information by powers of magnitude more then ever before in human history and yet a significant percentage of the population believe that vaccines cause autism because a washed up Playboy bunny repeated what she read from a discredited “doctor” and it caught on like wildfire.

    **People in general too often believe what they hear or read without legitimate evidence.**Disinformation exists at best because people unconsciously believe their opinions are just as valid as peer-reviewed research, and at worst to weaponize information for personal gain. Whatever the intent it’s a plague on humanity and I won’t apologize for calling it out when seen. If that’s too “brutal” for you I hope you can get to a place where reading cited information in response to opinion doesn’t disrupt your sensitivities.

    jpeps ,

    I think brutal science is implying that while you’re likely right, you’re also being strangely aggressive and pretty uncharitable to the people you’re replying to. See your three paragraph response to a one liner as an example.

    kajko ,

    I don’t know about the dishes but according to my memory of something I read a while ago (can’t look things up right now), the kitchen sink and kitchen brushes aren’t much cleaner than anything in the toilet; and actually, kitchen washcloths/sponges tend to be worse than toilet surfaces.

    So, maybe don’t put toilet brushes in the dishwasher but definitely don’t put in kitchen washcloths either. Not sure what this means about us washing dishes by hand with a sponge either. And maybe don’t put in used washcloths along your clothes in the washing machine.

    Swedneck ,
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    i would assume the big problem with toilet items is that some quite nasty bugs come out of our bungholes, whereas in the kitchen you’ll at worst find salmonella if you don’t practice good hygeiene around raw unvaccinated bird products

    0x4E4F OP ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.

    I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong…

    Rootiest ,
    @Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

    Like those wastewater treatment systems that turn sewage water into cleaner drinking water than we normally use, it still feels icky.

    tomi000 ,

    Still people drink tap water. How come?

    TheThunderWolf ,

    where else would you get drinking water? a water shop? a spring?

    tomi000 ,

    What Im trying to get at is that its obviously not that big a hurdle, at least I dont know anyone that regularly complains about feeling nasty drinking tap water. Its just about what people are used to, not reall, about something being unclean or not.

    Rootiest ,
    @Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

    To be clear personally if given the choice I’d rather the recycled piss water than tap water considering it has stricter standards.

    I was just pointing out the ick factor exists whether or not it’s logical.

    0x4E4F OP ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    In some places, tap water is drinkable. For example, where I live. Sure, it doesn’t taste as good as bottled water, but it’s safe to drink.

    tomi000 ,

    I was being sarcastic. Obviously people drink tap water even though it is recycled piss, so the ‘mental hurdle’ cant be that big

    TheFriendlyDickhead ,

    Depending on where you live tap water has the same or not noticibly lower quality of bottled water. Just for a fraction of the price.

    tomi000 ,

    That was my point. The water quality isnt affected by the fact that there were tons of shit swimming in the same water a few days before.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    That’s literally how they convinced people to vote against doing it when I lived in L.A. They called it “toilet to tap.” Now L.A. is running out of water and suddenly they’re desperate to do it.

    Guess what? Animals piss and shit in municipal water supplies that aren’t recycled. Constantly.

    0x4E4F OP ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    They could always opt for refined ocean water. The Arabs and Israelis do it for the past 2 decades or so.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sure, or they could just recycle water, which takes a lot less energy and is far less polluting.

    Socsa ,

    So first we need to stop fish from shitting in the ocean

    0x4E4F OP ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It’s not the same. One, the volume of water in which fish shit/piss is emmensly larger. Two, there are other life forms that recycle that shit and use it to grow.

    Aux ,

    It’s not about killing microbes, it’s about getting rid of pathogens and spores they create. You can’t steam that away. For example, botulinum toxin can withstand up to +85C and botulinum spores can withstand boiling water. No dishwasher will make your stuff safe from botulinum.

    Socsa ,

    Your toilet brushes probably don’t have anaerobic bacteria spores on them. To be clear, I think this is properly gross, but I also acknowledge that to some degree this is a marginally irrational preference for keeping food and poop separate. In all likelihood, there is no actual risk of disease from this practice.

    Laticauda ,

    Hot water isn’t the only thing cleaning your dishes you know.

    Aux ,

    Yes, but none of the things inside the dishwasher are rated against fece transmited pathogens.

    Laticauda ,

    Considering you can find traces of human feces on literally every surface inside a human home, I imagine you mainly need stuff like that for surgery, and surgical items are washed in what is, essentially, a dishwasher.

    Aux ,

    and surgical items are washed in what is, essentially, a dishwasher.

    Blast furnace is essentially a domestic oven by that logic.

    Laticauda ,

    They are a lot more similar to each other than a blast furnace is to an oven but whatever man.

    Bleach7297 , in Piers Morgan gets owned
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    Piers Morgan blocked me on Xitter, back when I had an account there. It was the highlight of my brief time on that platform.

    Sugarrayron ,

    “Xitter” is absolutely amazing. This is the first time I’ve seen someone call it that.

    Macropolis ,

    Pronounced “shitter”

    Hempwick , in If only there was a GOOD fish with a gun to save them!

    This joke is so old it statistically won’t die in a school shooting

    joyjoy , in Sorry guys
    daellat ,

    I like this alot

    ObviouslyNotBanana OP ,
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    Same

    elcheaponcod ,
    tourist ,
    @tourist@lemmy.world avatar

    yeah I’d fuck that thing too

    ColeSloth ,

    And op been having sex with it. Lol

    HappyPenguinos , in Can't block admin?

    Literally 1984

    LinkOpensChest_wav , in It's important for us to keep perspective...
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    S-tier shitpost and s-tier username

    Pothetato , in Not noice
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    But if I don’t stop seeding I get the threatening emails

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Block email dolain, peoblem solved 👍.

    Pothetato ,
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    Thanks scoob

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    No prob 👍.

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