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pmich80 , to futurama in To all the new(er) Reddit refugees!

First time posting after 9 solid years on Reddit. Thanks for the welcome

eldavi ,

12 years for me and i’m kicking myself for letting myself get so entrenched after i had experienced the same thing before; fediverse, here i come! lol

Ataraxia ,
@Ataraxia@lemmy.world avatar

Now time to do the same thing here hahaha! Reddit 2:.the quest for more money. Seriously when is that movie coming out?

Getawombatupya ,

Like the first franchise but with an all-woman cast?

rskn ,
@rskn@lemmy.world avatar

Reddit does Ghostbusters Tokyo Drift

randon31415 ,

Didn’t they make a cartoon at one point?

vegantomato ,
@vegantomato@lemmy.world avatar

Omg! Take my like!

TheGreatFox ,
@TheGreatFox@lemmy.world avatar

First time I’ve seen a comment so good that not only does it get upvotes, it has a https://i.imgur.com/2yhiqUJ.png

Anyone know how that is even possible?

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Science and fuckery

BackStabbath ,

Which app is that?

anonymous_bot ,

It looks like the lemmy.world website, not an app.

BackStabbath ,

Ahh ok

Awa OP ,
@Awa@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. However you can install a PWA (progressive web app) via chrome and firefox (perhaps other browsers but those are the ones I use). The PWA allows you to use lemmy when logged into your instance of choice and it acts like a mobile app. To install, go yo your instance in a browser, then check our options. For chrome, it says add to home screen. I believe firefox it says install app.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4ddba9db-456a-460d-9736-ff166e30c85d.png

briongloid ,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

It’s been very common in my 3 weeks on Lemmy, it’s probably more common to see 100% upvotes.

drzoidberg ,
@drzoidberg@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s cool some communities allow you to see the amount of up and down votes.

briongloid ,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

Personally I feel that what Reddit has been using for nearly 20 years was successful because it worked, the negativity that inevitably comes with large groups of people was the only issue and a lot of Lemmy users think it’s the basic systems that worked.

Karma added a little boost to activity and engagement, while upvote/downvote helped curate content at a site wide level.

The value of these made up points is directly correlated with the size of the overall group and the larger Lemmy grows, the more it will have the same issues, it’s just a matter of how long we get to enjoy this environment before it outgrows us etc.

The only important thing is that while we still can, we try to reinforce to people that the vote itself is matter of quality and appropriateness to the community the comment/post is in, as apposed to whether the thing is liked etc.

Possible_EmuWrangler ,

I havent looked at code, so i can only guess. Just before you looked at it, i clicked downvote. I realise my mistake and unclick/click it again. The local server we’re browsing on (Server A) sends the downvote to the server the post was made on(Server B), but it also temporarily adjusts it local figure for a while until it can refresh from the server the post was made on. Last it knew server B had a tally at 0 downvotes, so it goes negative. (If Server A had a downvote figure of 4, the same process would have shown 3 to you)

Chonk ,

I guess they show upvotes and downvotes instead of net upvotes/downvotes.

KingFapNTits ,

I downvoted you. No one else had any downvotes; please let me know if it registered. I don’t want vote fuckery like they have on reddit.

TheGreatFox ,
@TheGreatFox@lemmy.world avatar

It registered, I see the downvote. The reason you don’t see downvotes on most comments is that most people here don’t give them out for no reason, so there just aren’t any to display.

Pretty sure the negative downvotes weren’t intentional manipulation, my best guess was some cross-federation code interacting weirdly. Though it’s fixed now anyway, you responded to a comment that was 17 days old.

KingFapNTits ,

Thanks for the reply

GuyDudeman ,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.world avatar

Locals only! Haole go home!

amanaftermidnight , (edited ) to fediverse in Lemmy.world grew by about 40% on the first day of reddit migration

We definitely felt the ship groaning through all this. Thankfully the Ruud-er skillfully navigated through this, and the software update on top.

Anyways, welcome to Lemmy 17!

MicroWave OP ,
@MicroWave@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so glad the auto refresh bug on the main page is finally gone after the software update.

thegiddystitcher ,
@thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee avatar

Would it be too dramatic to say it’s changed my life?

Grant_M ,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

It made me whole again

FarLine99 ,

Yeah, it was REALLY weird bug!

IsThisLemmyOpen ,

Lemmy 17? We’re on 0.18.0, buddy. 😆

deweydecibel ,

0.18.1, guy

Limes ,
@Limes@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not your guy, pal.

dimlo ,

I’m not your pal, mate.

CapnAssHolo ,

He’s not your mate, budday.

tweeks ,

I’m not your budday, muchacho.

nexguy ,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not your muchacho, partner

zav ,
@zav@lemmy.world avatar

I am not your muchacho, amigo

ekZepp ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not your amigo, dude

deweydecibel ,

Ahh, look at that reply string we started. It’s feeling like home around here already.

adinfinitum ,

And my axe!

Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

can ,

You took it too far

Thteven ,
@Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

You get a lemon, that’s the best I can do.

🍋

Nutbiggums ,

As fellow former Redditors we should understand server issues

cygnus , to linuxmemes in -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MEME-----
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Is this one of those NFTs the kids are talking about?

RecluseRamble ,

It’s actually quite similar. Non-fungible since only OP has the private key but easy to steal by just downloading the image (and cropping the key if you want).

Sanctus , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit is sooooo close..
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Thats the neat part

TheFriar ,

Whatdoyoumean?! The govt obviously has so much money as to be able to put millions away for each and every person born! And that money isn’t even being used! Just $3M each, that’s just sitting there waiting for the right magic words to be uttered in a Bank of America in Lubbock, TX to finally be used! Of course money is infinite! They’re the ones printing it!

barsquid ,

the right magic words

“Nesara gesara”

FozzyOsbourne , to lemmyshitpost in Make it stop.

Don’t pretend you didn’t become obsessed with whatever cool new slang was flavour of the month when you were a child

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

No shot fellow cool kid

Plopp ,

I don’t remember getting any new slang as a kid.

db2 ,

That’s because to you it was just normal.

bolexforsoup ,

Just because you don’t remember it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. You had to learn it at some point. You weren’t born with a lexicon of slang that revealed itself when it suddenly became modern/relevant lol

Track_Shovel ,

Yeah, we just called people fags (sorry) or gay.

90s and early 00s were N O T LGBT friendly

bolexforsoup ,

Don’t forget how casual the r word was. Every comedy of the 90s and 2000s called somebody that. It’s still too commonly used but nothing like it was back then.

pyre ,

not to mention the casual use of the hard R. even Linus from LTT admitted to have dropped his fair share of hard Rs back then.

MindTraveller ,

Plus there was a lot of n*rcissist thrown around back then

Ookami38 ,

Ok now THAT’S a weird one to censor.

Plopp ,

Yeah unless that n is the n-word I don’t get the censoring.

MindTraveller ,

I censored it because it’s a bad word. A slur against people with disabilities.

Kusimulkku ,

What’s the r-word?

deadbeef79000 ,

“retarded”

Kusimulkku ,

Oh. I know it’s not a nice word but didn’t think it was bad enough to include on the same level as the n-word. Times do change I guess

deadbeef79000 ,

It’s a weird one. “Retard” is a technical term, jargon. It became a perjorative term.

Unlike the n-word that was always a pejorative.

WillFord27 ,

Companies 12 hours after June ends

Kusimulkku ,

“PRIIIIIDE 🏳️‍🌈”

next day

“So you fags wanna buy our products or what”

BakerBagel ,

We had a couple weeks calling people “F.A.G.s’ and “M.A.G.s” for 'female ass grabber” and “male ass grabber”. As in someone how grabd a females ass or or a male ass. I have no idea how the teachers were able to do anything about that with a straight face.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

fags

This is what we called cigarettes in Australia.

FozzyOsbourne ,

Same in Britain. Damn homophobia ruining perfectly good slang!

bobs_monkey ,

What I remember from the 90/00s: sinch, hella, coolio, jam (going), spaz, poser, chillax, bitchin, burn, noob, booyah, aight, duh, phat, sup, stoked, jiggy, harsh, buzz kill

There’s a shitton more, but that’s what I got off the top of my head

TheDoozer ,

Yes to all except jiggy. I feel like that was just Will Smith trying to make Fetch happen.

MindTraveller ,

He was streets ahead!

wavebeam ,
@wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

Idk, I got like all the jiggy’s before beating gruntilda

FozzyOsbourne ,

Don’t casually throw “spaz” in there with a load of inoffensive stuff!

NikkiDimes ,

You were learning slang along with everything else. At that age, it doesn’t stand out against everything else the same way it does when you’re older.

brandocorp ,

I think this is true, but I also grew up without Internet or social media so maybe things were more regional as opposed to this larger shared culture those things have enabled. So that may be part of it?

NikkiDimes ,

As someone who grew up in rural Canada, I feel that. We always felt a decade out of date on fads and slang lol.

systemglitch ,

80s had a ton.

gdog05 ,

You have a point, but when I was a kid we at least made sure the slang came from black people first. I don’t think anything good can come from white kids out there making up words.

flat ,
@flat@reddthat.com avatar

what

pancakes ,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yikes

feedum_sneedson ,

penis

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar
brbposting ,

LOL who’s that

NikkiDimes ,

You forgot the /s right?

gdog05 ,

I kind of figured it was implied but eh. Some things don’t land.

Sidhean ,

Yeah, well. World is full of racists. Can hardly even make fun of 'em without being mistaken for one, now.

This reminded me of the month ‘wigga’ was every fucking one’s favorite word at my very-nearly-all-white school. Nothing good, indeed.

bolexforsoup ,

Watching millennials/gen x pick on Gen Z for the same behaviors we all had gets old doesn’t it?

candybrie ,

And the kids playing tag are likely not even gen z but gen alpha. No one can even pick on the right generation.

slaacaa ,

Fr, no cap

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

True dat

Icalasari ,

I did not, for I was a loser who didn't know slang

Notyou ,
Mrderisant ,

Dude practically became a verbal tick

LH0ezVT , to linuxmemes in Debian used to be so good. What happened!?

You are literally describing the idea of Debian. Yes, stable is old, but that is the whole purpose. You get (mostly) security updates only for a few years. No big updates, no surprises. Great for stuff like company PCs, servers, and other systems you want to just work™ with minimal admin work.

And testing is, well, for testing. Ironing out bugs and preparing the next stable. Although what you describes sounds more like unstable, the one where they explicitly say that they will break stuff to try out other stuff.

So, everything works as intended and advertised here. If you want a different approach to stability, I guess you will have to use a different distro, sorry.

I guess when you last tried it, it was at a time when a new stable came out, so testing was more or less equal to stable.

About the firefox: It ships Firefox ESR these days, meaning you get an older, less often updated tested firefox (with security updates, of course). Again, this is the whole point. Less updates, less admin work, more time to find and fix bugs. Remember the whole Quantum add-on mess, for example?

As others have said, you can install other versions of firefox (like the “normal” one) via flatpak, snap… nowadays. The same goes for other software, where you would need the newest and shiniest version sooner. I’m using debian on my work/uni laptop and a bunch of servers, and it works pretty well for me.

realbadat ,

This is why Debian is my server of choice, and my work desktop of choice.

OP, There are some flavors of Debian out there that are more rapid release, like LMDE, Siduction, Sparky, even Kali (though I wouldn’t recommend Kali as a primary desktop personally). Some based on Sid, some based on Testing.

growingentropy ,

The last paragraph is vital. Grab a flatpak of any software you need to be more up to date. Flatpaks running on Debian are amazing. Current software running on a stable base.

florenzthedev ,

Mozilla even has a repository for installing the latest version through apt if you don’t want to use flatpack or snap, it’s pretty painless. Link

QuincyPeck , to aboringdystopia in I think it's extremely invasive that amazon is telling me this

It could also be that Amazon is like, “hey, don’t shoot this person. They’re delivering your shit.”

ekky ,

In what kind of backward and lawless war zone does one have to live to require telling people not to shoot at other people?

cobysev ,

America.

gregorum ,

Florida

SkyezOpen ,

Texas

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

Literally had a fellow driver return to the station with bullet holes in the van. I’ll give you two guesses as to what race the driver was. Doesn’t matter that it was an Amazon branded van, with the driver wearing an Amazon uniform.

SkyezOpen ,

Definitely a white guy!

Were any charges filed against the shooter?

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

Nope. This was before there were cameras in the vans, and the shooter wasn’t one of the driver’s stops. The neighborhood was in the middle of nowhere, was gated and walled.

TexasDrunk ,

I only shot one driver and that was an accident, ok? I was trying to bag an armadillo for dinner.

shalafi ,

The media has pumped us full of terror. The gun thing is a perfect example, but comments on that aren’t welcome around here. I’ll just say, the danger is nothing like most imagine.

Went to pick up a kayak from FB Marketplace, got the wrong house. Lady wouldn’t answer at first, and that’s with a German Shepard barking at me though the door and a Ring doorbell looking at me. When she finally came, she wouldn’t open the glass, talked to me through the door.

For context, this is in the bougie suburb and I’m a well-dressed, middle-aged white guy. And I’m small. Hardly a scary man for the time and place.

On Nextdoor.com I see 1,000 idiot posts.

“Did you see the strange man walking down Oak Street?! I’ve seen him twice now!”

“A teenager came to my door today and I didn’t know him! Has anyone else been terrorized like this?”

makuus ,

Those NextDoor posts are something else.

In my area, they tend to take on racist undertones. But, there are also posts of equal-opportunity fearmongering, wherein strange cars, teenagers with clipboards, or nicely-dressed middle-aged ladies taking pictures of houses are suspected of casing the joint for later break-in, accompanied by the usual question: Should I call the police?

Folks really are that fearful, and it’s a sad state of affairs.

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

America.

Just scrolling lemmy, I’ve read at least two cases this week alone of people either opening fire on a pizza delivery driver for pulling into the wrong driveway, or forcing an uber driver to the ground at rifle point for dropping off the gun owners daughter.

dogsoahC ,

Okay, but how is that alleviated by showing the name and picture to someone else?

FartsWithAnAccent , to nostupidquestions in How does South Park get away with trashing identifiable people? Are they sued often?
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Parody is protected under US law.

People can (and do) sue, but they lose every time because it’s easy for their well resourced corporate legal team to prove the show is parody and thus, protected free speech.

crypticthree ,

Also public figures have to prove “actual malice” in a defamation or libel case. Actual malice is an incredibly hard thing to prove.

Corkyskog ,

I imagine if it were easier, there would be like another couple hundred of thousand lawsuits against Trump lol

KnowledgeableNip ,

And by Trump, too. He’d definitely try and cash in if it were possible.

cooopsspace , to mildlyinfuriating in MFA

SMS: Here is your 30s “MFA” code, I’ll send it to you 40 minutes after you need it.

SMS isn’t 2FA. Its 1.5FA.

KairuByte ,

SMS isn’t even secure. Mitm, social engineering, straight up theft, and more are all ways around it. It should never have been implemented, but especially not when totp exists.

Opisek ,

What I despise most in when SMS is not just optional but forced upon me as “backup” to TOTP. “Lost your authenticator app? Send an SMS instead.” How about no?

KairuByte ,

I don’t believe I’ve run into that, but yeah it completely misses the point of totp. Hell, I’d prefer a lockout over SMS backup in most cases, my totp authentication has multiple encrypted backups.

lorkano ,

Especially because you can just backup authenticator to the pendrive in encrypted form. I don’t care I loose my phone, that’s exactly the reason authenticator is better.

datelmd5sum ,

I’ve heard people in the US still use SMS to communicate with eachother. Fucking crazy.

Crashumbc ,

Inertia and ease of use are powerful.

SMS “just works” and works for everyone here.

While I would like the new fancy features. At least RCS is bringing some and is seamlessly integrated.

Bonus I have 10+ years of txt history and can scroll/search to find something. And since my phone is Google (I know evil) I can access it all from the desktop seamlessly in one window.

mexicancartel ,

Sms just works everywhere though

JasonDJ ,

Only when iPhone users need to send a message to literally anyone else.

rickyrigatoni ,

why not

datelmd5sum ,

Can you for example send a video, encrypted and to your computer via SMS? I don’t know how much tech they’ve built over the protocol over in the US, but in many parts of the world SMS was charged per message in your phone bill and things like photos or video cost more to send. People abandoned SMS quickly when 3rd party IP messaging apps like whatsapp came out.

rickyrigatoni ,

i think most people have unlimited texting and data in america, the greatest country.

datelmd5sum ,

Yeah data got unlimited here before texts, which caused people to move on to other things. Now texts are usually unlimited, but that train has already sailed.

ParetoOptimalDev ,

I wouldn’t count on your encrypted WhatsApp video actually being secure.

Use signal for that.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

uhhh that’s not some unique american thing lol, that’s how people here in sweden communicate too

Barely anyone cares what specific protocol is being used, they just care about what app they have to use and who they can reach, and if anyone isn’t using a normal sms app they’re generally using facebook messenger or imessages both of which support sms fallback and thus their users don’t even know there’s a difference half the time.

jnk ,

Blame apple for that. IPhone has this proprietary messaging app pre-installed which is probably super convinient for the ecosystem but uses some obsolete SMS protocol to communicate with android phones. I think recently this has gotten better, but only because beeper and the EU pressing on them

Crashumbc ,

Buy a real phone service. I don’t ever remember missing a code.

cooopsspace ,

It’s overwhelmingly whatever provider they use for SMS, or some sort of anti spam checking.

My phone has reception the whole time.

JasonDJ ,

Dude.

My wife’s phone started acting up the other day. It would keep losing cell service and even when it showed a signal, it still would only work on wifi.

That happened a few hours after I ported my phone number (on the same family plan) to another carrier. So naturally, I thought the issue was with the carrier.

Since I planned on porting her number out to my new carrier anyway, I didn’t want to troubleshoot.

Well, get to the new carrier and it’s still not working. Go through the whole process of resetting network settings, and then eventually deleting the esim.

New carrier, though, needs you to receive a text message before they send the esim.

Naturally, with the esim deleted, it couldn’t receive text messages.

Her issue did end up being her phone. Even after the port went through in full, it was still hit-or-miss with cell service. Worked on wifi though.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

SMS is good enough. Sure it’s not as authenticator or some other MFA method, but it’s good enough. Chances of my random account hiding something worth subverting cell operator to get the SMS and my password, are slim to none. At that point don’t upload anything worth that much.

eager_eagle , to mildlyinfuriating in You have to remove the plastic label if you want to recycle this plastic bottle.
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

Not this one, every one. The only difference is that they bother to put this info on the label.

joenforcer , to internetfuneral in UH OH!

Google is not a search engine. It’s an advertising service. Their whole business model revolves around a critical mass of eyeballs, which flock to free services. This will never happen for the average user.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

As the saying goes- if the service is free, you’re not the customer.

vsh ,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

This will never happen for the average user.

Shareholders have different plans for infinite growth.

Karyoplasma ,

I wonder what happens when the time finally comes and they realize infinite growth is impossible. Black Friday II?

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

If anyone ever figures out how to charge people service fees in the afterlife … there will be service fees in the afterlife

sturmblast ,

yeah the days of Google search being king or long past over

stockRot ,

I’m pretty sure it’s a search engine…

Kuragi2 ,

Por que no los dos?

Ostensibly yeah, the product being offered is a search engine. Realistically, the product being offered is a combination of your data, and your eyes/attention.

Destraight ,

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  • Wogi ,

    It’s an advertising service, the way they serve ads is through attracting people to free searches.

    It’s much like how a magazine is actually an ad service, but you can open a magazine to any random page and have a chance of not seeing an ad.

    Or like how over the air television is actually an ad service, but you have a chance of turning it on at any random moment and not seeing an ad.

    He’s not describing how Google attracts YOU. He’s taking about what Google actually sells, which is ads.

    CosmoNova ,

    Eh, they’re turning Youtube into that and yet people buy premium so I would be careful to make any such predictions.

    FoxFairline , to memes in Web3 is here and it's glorious
    @FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
    Syl ,
    @Syl@jlai.lu avatar

    Any reason why? I also like the templar from path of exile.

    Kalkaline ,
    @Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

    Drake is a creeper, give it time and you’ll see some allegations and court dates pop up.

    ox0r ,
    @ox0r@jlai.lu avatar

    Lol I didn’t even know it was drake, I just thought it was some guy

    pseudonym ,

    What’s a Drake?

    LucasWaffyWaf ,

    A drake is a four legged dragon that lacks wings, but that’s not important now.

    xx3rawr ,

    I think it’s a male duck

    Fuck_u_spez_ ,

    It’s like a Tate, but Canadian.

    YoItsDoc ,

    Not defending Drake, but he’s definitely not nearly as mush of a monster as Tate.

    Fuck_u_spez_ ,

    Of course not, he’s Canadian.

    Goldmaster ,

    Maybe same text just laforge format. Fediverce is star trek.

    kn0wmad1c , to news in Kyle Rittenhouse's family plead for money as they face eviction
    @kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

    Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

    The piece of shit is being a total piece of shit? shocked pikachu

    Cethin ,

    While shitty, what does him helping them financially have to do with anything? He shouldn’t be responsible for them. There are many people in the US in worse situations, and they don’t get special treatment because, I guess, they aren’t family with a famous murderer.

    Decomaeker ,

    well yeah, but like, if you get free money from people for shooting some guy at a protest, the least you could do is share some of that money with your family.

    rebelsimile ,

    I’m imagining the family from Million Dollar Baby walking in from Disney World going “What do you mean you ain’t got any more of that shootin’ people money??”

    WamGams ,

    Most of us struggle month to month, most of us dont attempt to leech blood money to unburden our struggle. Most of us don’t run to the media to cry about how our murderthing fascist familial connection isn’t letting us leech their blood money.

    If I was Kyle Rittenhouse, I wouldn’t give a single dime to the people who created Kyle Rittenhouse. They created an unlovable twerp, they shouldn’t profit from that.

    corsicanguppy ,

    Share it wider: “it takes a village to raise a vigilante” or at least to look the other way.

    TrumpetX ,

    It takes a vigilante to raze a village? That other way?

    Etterra ,

    What makes you think this bastard comprehends the concept of empathy?

    dellish ,

    Aaaaand now we’re back at the piece of shit acting like a piece of shit.

    gmtom ,

    Bro djd you not see how torn up he was at the trial? He’s , like, the most empathetic person on earth.

    corsicanguppy ,

    Agreed.

    We know that we are not the only family struggling to rebuild after that fateful night

    And look at the struggles his sister is going through. Profound tone-deafness is a real wipepo problem, a syndrome second only to affluenza in terms of collateral damage and suffering.

    She needs help! Hit up your friends; especially the strong ones who like pizza and beer. Dig deep for those truck keys and clear the calendars for next weekend so you can help … move.

    Doom ,

    they’re trying to get libs who hate kyle to help

    fatalicus ,

    In this case (according to the donation page), he is part of the reason they are in this mess, as his mom is unable to find employment since everyone thinks she drove him to the protest where he shot those people.

    sunzu ,

    Sounds like the town knows something we don't or are they just punking this woman on a trust me bro.

    Funny how society will act like this here but then we have Cathlic pedos living in the community and nothing happens.

    People as a community have some weird sense of morals

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I don’t think I would want anything to do with her either. It’s not fully rational or fair but it’s the way it is. Her position as his mom means she pretty much has to defend her son’s multiple murder and there are 8 billion people on earth, I don’t have to spend a minute with someone who would do that.

    Plus if I was going to hire her I would wonder how much crap this is going to cost me. It’s not a heavily populated area and the name is rare enough. At best she is going to be neutral at worst she is going to attract the kind of people I don’t want around or infuriate other people.

    I am a parent myself. If you don’t like my kids I don’t like you.

    NauticalNoodle ,

    How do you feel about people who feel neutral about your kids?

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Umm what does that even mean? How can anyone feel neutral to another human being? All I am picturing is you know someone exists but any amount of pain or pleasure they feel doesn’t impact you. Like if you could push a magic button to make them happy you wouldn’t bother since that would require effort and you are neutral.

    I don’t know any people who are wired this way.

    NauticalNoodle , (edited )

    Umm what does that even mean? How can anyone feel neutral to another human being?

    I just meant indifferent really.

    All I am picturing is you know someone exists but any amount of pain or pleasure they feel doesn’t impact you.

    There are a lot of people that currently exist and are in pain but it has little to no impact on me even though providing help would require nothing more than some more time and manpower.

    Like if you could push a magic button to make them happy you wouldn’t bother since that would require effort and you are neutral.

    This, I think provides for an interesting thought-experiment. Do we know how long it takes to press a button? Is the button-press speed limited by the latency of the circuitry it’s connected to? Exactly how many people are currently in pain? It’s obviously lots but can we come up with a relatively specific number? With what frequency does the number of suffering people change?

    Then there are also some questions with more relative ethical implications that might also be: How many hours a week should a person spend pressing this button? How many people should press this button? If all previously suffering people are getting their buttons pressed then how will we know when someone is happy and flourishing? Isn’t suffering an implied opposite of flourishing? What other implications of the anti-suffering button are there?

    I don’t know the answer to these questions, but you have certainly given me lot’s to ponder.

    [edit][post] On further research I guess this sounds kind of like Negative Ultilitarianism which appears to be a subset of Utilitarianism.

    Grandwolf319 ,

    Although that sucks, I can’t blame people for naturally putting some fault on her even for the wrong reasons.

    I don’t think she should struggle but she did raise him. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime but imo parents should take responsibility of raising shitty kids.

    PoliticalAgitator ,

    Most people who aren’t conservative psychopaths actually like their families and want to help them when they can.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    It’s his mom, Jesus dude.

    Cethin ,

    Yeah, and we shouldn’t pity them because they have an asshole son. Sure, it’d be the right thing for him to do if he were a good person, but him not taking financial responsibility for them doesn’t mean anyone else should be either. I’d much rather them help someone else.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    It’s his mom. What is wrong with you people? Me and my mom have a shit relationship but if I crippled her ability to work or she was going to be out on the street I would send her cash. Me and my wife send her parents money each month. It is a very small price to pay for giving me my partner.

    Cethin ,

    They’re asking for money from other people. Yes, he should give them money. He is profiting off of murder. He’s an asshole. Why should anyone else give them money though? I don’t pity them. The mom raised an asshole murderer. Maybe it’s not her fault, but she has to have some responsibility in it.

    ArcaneSlime ,

    Tbf, maybe we shouldn’t vilify them because of the actions of their son/brother so bad that they can’t be employed. I don’t hire people but the only reason not to would be the negative publicity from hiring them from people like those in this thread, I doubt if you gave his mom a job she’ll show up and shoot someone every morning.

    hydroptic , to technology in Google AI making up recalls that didn’t happen

    And this technology is what our executive overlords want to replace human workers with, just so they can raise their own compensation and pay the remaining workers even less

    loie ,

    So much this. The whole point is to annihilate entire sectors of decent paying jobs. That’s why “AI” is garnering all this investment. Exactly like Theranos. Doesn’t matter if their product worked, or made any goddamned sense at all really. Just the very idea of nuking shitloads of salaries is enough to get the investor class to dump billions on the slightest chance of success.

    TrickDacy ,

    Exactly like Theranos

    Is it though? This one is an idea that can literally destroy the economic system. Seems different to ignore that detail.

    krashmo ,

    Current gen AI can’t come close to destroying the economy. It’s the most overhyped technology I’ve ever seen in my life.

    TrickDacy ,

    You’re missing the point. They aim to replace most/all jobs. For that to be possible, it will need investment, and to get a lot better. If that happens, a worldwide inability to make a living will happen. It likely will have negative impact even on the rich bastards.

    Barbarian ,
    @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

    There’s an upper ceiling on capability though, and we’re pretty close to it with LLMs. True artificial intelligence would change the world drastically, but LLMs aren’t the path to it.

    TrickDacy ,

    Yeah, I never said this is going to happen. All I was commenting on is how it’s ironic that the people investing in destroying jobs are too myopic to realize that would be bad for them too.

    Barbarian ,
    @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Ah, I misunderstood then, sorry. But still, even with all the investment in the world, LLM is a bubble waiting to burst. I have a hunch we will see truly world-altering technology in the next ~20 years (the kind that’d put huge swathes of people out of work, as you describe), but this ain’t it.

    Serinus ,

    They always miss this part. It’s (part of) why the Republicans wanting to be Russian-style oligarchs is so insane. And ignoring good faith government and their disregard for the rule of law.

    Do they KNOW what happens to Russian oligarchs? Why do they think they’re immune to that part of it? Do they really want the cutthroat politics of places like Russia and Africa, where they constantly have to watch their backs?

    These people already have money. Their aims, if achieved, will not make their lives better.

    Many years ago the people who ruled this country figured out that the best thing for them was to spread power and have most civilians in good health. Government by committee and good faith government is less about ethical treatment of citizens (though I appreciate the side effect) and more about protecting the committee and/or the would be dictator.

    TrickDacy ,

    Pretty much the sanest take I’ve read in a while. Thank you for getting it, fellow Lemming.

    Broken_Monitor ,

    This is the kind of shit that makes Idiocracy the most weirdly prophetic movie I’ve ever seen.

    blackbelt352 ,

    Ignoring the blatant eugenics of the very first scene, I’d rather live in the idiocracy world because at least the president with all of his machismo and grandstanding was still humble enough to put the smartest guy in the room in charge of actually getting plants to grow.

    drunkpostdisaster ,

    My take away from that was the poorly educated had more kids.

    blackbelt352 ,

    Giving the benefit of the doubt I can see that reading but it definitely implied that stupidity is genetic because of how big the stupid people family tree gets and the scifi story it was based on was a looooot more explicit with the eugenics of the story.

    drunkpostdisaster ,

    yeah, I honestly am expecting to die in a camp at this point.

    hydroptic ,

    This combined with the meteoric rise of fascism absolutely leave me thinking that I’ll probably end up in a concentration camp

    nomous ,

    Hope for the best but prepare for the worst!

    Hotzilla ,

    I am starting to think google put this up on purpose to destroy people’s opinion on AI. They are so much behind Open AI that they would benefit from it.

    hydroptic ,

    I doubt there’s any sort of 4D chess going on, instead of the whole thing being brought about by short-sighted executives who feel like they have to do something to show that they’re still in the game exactly because they’re so much behind "Open"AI

    Hotzilla ,

    It is possible to happen without any 4D chess thinking, they try, they realize that they failed, but they realize that they win here either way.

    This shit is so bad that even a blind guy can see it.

    hydroptic ,

    This shit is so bad that even a blind guy can see it.

    You severely underestimate the shortsightedness of the executive class. They’re usually so convinced of their infallibility that they absolutely will make decisions that are obviously terrible to anyone looking in from the outside

    mriormro ,
    @mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

    Conspiratorial thinking at it’s finest.

    Hotzilla ,

    Yes, because this whole thing is incredible stupid, that how could they not see it? Saying of course is that “never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence”, but holy shit how incompetent this 2 trillion dollar company was.

    elephantium , to aboringdystopia in "but- But- inflation go brrrr 🥺👉👈"
    @elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

    That chart is evil. First two ticks represent 5 years. Ticks 2-3 represent 2 years. The last two ticks represent 2 1/2-3 years!

    Also, what’s so magical about 2014 that it deserves to be the baseline? I’d love to see this extended back to, oh, 2006 or so. Sometime before the Great Recession.

    Finally, what about shrinkflation? I used to order from Panera on a regular basis, but during the pandemic, it seemed like their sandwiches shrank a little bit more between every order. At this point, I don’t think it’s even worth ordering from them.

    Nougat ,

    Not to mention that a huge number of these businesses are locally owned franchises, where the parent corporation has less control over menu prices.

    bane_killgrind ,

    Many franchises are bound by a specific cost structure and predefined distribution.

    Bizarroland ,
    @Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

    And most franchises are required to purchase their raw ingredients from the parent corporation, which means that even if they choose to be flexible on their prices their baseline costs are still set by a global conglomerate.

    Honytawk , (edited )

    The time line doesn’t matter since it is only comparing different brands to inflation, not against time. You could stretch the graph but the comparison will stay the same.

    2014 is just chosen as a starting point. Most probably because the info was readily available. You can make the same graph starting from any point in time and the conclusion of the graph wouldn’t change.

    elephantium ,
    @elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

    Hard disagree on both points. If the time line doesn’t matter, why include it? It would be simpler to just plot the endpoints.

    As for the conclusion, what if McDonalds kept prices the same from 2004-2014, but Popeyes doubled prices over the same time period? The final plots for 2024 would be in a different order. It would be a different conclusion. Unless nobody changed prices at all before 2014, you’ll have a different final result.

    Habahnow ,

    The timeline gives a general reference point. You’re right they could mostly just include 2014 and the final year as well. No big deal in my opinion since they don’t try to emphasize the price points at each year (as only a vague idea is given based on the line).

    In terms of your second point, what if from '99 to 2003, Mcdonald’s had doubled their prices? the graph would be the same? We can keep going back until each business’s complete history, but I feel this graph tells enough of a story: Both brands increased their product costs a certain amount from the dates indicated.

    xfc ,

    I guess just because it’s 10 years difference?

    TropicalDingdong ,

    There is no excuse for this kind of ungodly travesty of a lie made with data.

    They are awarded no points and may God have mercy on their soul.

    TropicalDingdong ,

    JFC I didn’t even notice the x axis at first glance.

    Railing5132 ,

    And who is what at that mid-level grouping on the left vertical? I could guess at the colors, but I’ve come up with 9 different possibilities. It’d be nice to be able to tell which is leveling off and which is accelerating.

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