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Kerb , to programmerhumor in Died from reading this
@Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

im almost sad that its linux that became the dominating open source kernel instead of “GNU’s Not Unix! Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons”
(hird stands for “Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth”)

Cysioland ,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Thanks, now I hate recursive acronyms

gandalf_der_12te ,

and it goes HARD

GrymEdm , to memes in It hasn't turned a profit in 20 years, it should be a terrible business model, but they are probably going to be bought by the big tech companies to train LLM's.

I’m sure a LLM trained on Reddit conversations will be a well-balanced, polite, and reasonable conversationalist and not a contradictory mess trying to figure out which brand of spite is most acceptable. Remember in 2016 when Microsoft plugged the chatbot “Tay” into the internet and it went full psycho Nazi in 24 hours?

NocturnalMorning ,

Pepperidge farm remembers

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

I love reading the things Tay tweeted because these days that’s just an average Twitter post.

InfiniWheel ,

Tbf, people intentionally screwed up Tay

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks a lot 4chan. I dislike people that think 4chan is whatever they claim it is outside of /pol/. They are deluded and narrow minded. These people virtue signal and love lemmy/reddit/digg/slashdot, which is chan culture minus slurs.

shalafi , to lemmyshitpost in With the massacre of hundreds of Palestinians waiting for aid, we are forgetting the true victims.

Remember the beginning of Black Hawk Down when the warlord’s men machine gun the people trying to get bags of grain? And the Black Hawk crew couldn’t engage?

Yeah, it’s like that, except we’re paying the warlord’s army this time.

RamblingPanda ,

We told you you shouldn’t use those bullets on civilians. Here, have some more. But this time no civilian casualties, ok? You’ve done it again, haven’t you? Here, have some bombs.

paholg ,

I’m not sure we even bother to suggest they don’t use them on civilians.

menemen ,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Publicy they do suggest it, then deny it has been done, then “utter concern”, then suggest it again. Meanwhile sending all the weapons they can.

SolarMech , to programmerhumor in Shiiieeettt.......

If a TODO passes code review, more than one person fucked up.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

At my first job after university, we did releases every Friday evening. From 3-5pm, all you would see in the Slack channel was a flurry of everyone committing straight to master (with a bunch of merge conflict commits between). Oh and then we’d release. Fun times.

SchizoDenji ,

I literally know multi billion dollar B2C startups doing the same. It’s got so toxic that the management regularly fires people and to fill their spots, they offer obscene amounts of money just for starter positions.

hypertext5689 ,

Where’s this? I feel like I can milk the company for a little while lol.

ShadowCatEXE ,
@ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world avatar

A free for all, late Friday deployment is baffling… We’ve got a strict window of Tuesday-Thursday for releases (unless it’s a critical issue), and a 2-3 day merge freeze to help mitigate unexpected changes.

We’ve got a relatively small team with LOTS of moving parts, so minimizing deployment issues is always top of mind.

Patches ,

You guys do code reviews?

winky9827b ,

Eh, then you just get those idiots who avoid using TODO: because it makes the code review “harder”.


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targetx ,
@targetx@programming.dev avatar

That’s no longer a technical process issue but more of a teamcoach/HR kind of issue then. You should be able to assume good intentions from colleagues, imho.

intensely_human ,

Especially the devops team. That keyword should be caught in a precommit hook

targetx ,
@targetx@programming.dev avatar

We use a CI pipeline check which prevents merges to master if the code contains a TODO. A precommit hook only works if the developer has the hooks configured.

intensely_human ,

See this is why the devops team should do it and not me

ozymandias117 ,

I mean, just look at how many patches in Android are marked DO NOT MERGE, DO NOT MERGE ANYWHERE, etc, but are in mainline

sbv , to programmerhumor in Shiiieeettt.......

I feel like modern compilers would turn their nose up at that shit. “Dead code? Ewww! No way I’m letting that into my syntax tree!”

ShortN0te ,

A lot of IDEs would probably throw a warning about unreachable code.

Pyroglyph ,
@Pyroglyph@lemmy.world avatar

implying that any developer actually reads warnings

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

most of my (rust) projects have zero (or maybe 1-2) warnings, unless I’m in the middle of working on a feature

micka190 ,

First thing I do on my projects is enable warnings as errors and increase my warning levels when reasonable.

Unfortunately, the same can’t be said on the projects I work on at work. Drives me crazy that we get likes 300+ warnings whenever we run the app and that we can’t change it because "they’re just warnings*.

Alexstarfire ,

🤢 Good lord.

Though, I say that as I was basically forced to accept code that was using something marked deprecated because it was unreasonable to refactoring the code in that project. And I know we’re never going to change it unless it stops working. 😭 At least I marked it as an issue on the review.

micka190 ,

Oh yeah, I’m genuinely about to hand-in my resignation as soon as I find another job over this kind of shit. I keep being told that the business is really trying to clean-up its act when it comes to coding practices, but they keep putting some of the most incompetent people I’ve ever worked with in charge of shit (because they do promotions based on years of experience instead of actual actionable experience). It’s awful.

PoolloverNathan ,

That’s when you add #![deny(bad_code)], making sure that nobody notices.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

It’s not that we want to ignore warnings. It’s just that most warnings take time to fix.

There’s only so many hours in a day. And we have to accept technical debt in order to deliver, and then pay it off later.

My job does it well by doing a “spring” and “summer” cleaning where we can turn out 100+ warnings into the single digits. Then busy season happens again and we’re back to 200+.

micka190 ,

It’s not that we want to ignore warnings.

Speak for yourself, I promise you the team I work on actively ignores warnings and doesn’t even want to solve them as they pop-up. Being told you can’t compare doubles (because of precision loss) and ignoring it is on the developer and isn’t even that hard to fix. Most of our warnings come from shit like that.

Like, I get it. It’s probably not worth it to hunt down every “unused variable” warning (especially in an API where we used to have a variable for it and we don’t use it anymore and we don’t want to break the existing API so we just leave it there), but there’s things that are just trivial to fix when you’re working on code that’s right next to it.

MonkderZweite ,

Drives me crazy that we get likes 300+ warnings whenever we run the app and that we can’t change it because "they’re just warnings*.

Laughs in Xamarin. Only 300?

Well, it was a year ago, is Xamarin now finally changed to the new thing (what was it’s name)?

SpookySnek ,

Maui!

MonkderZweite ,

Right, thanks. The KDE thing.

bus_factor ,

Golang won’t even compile with dead code. Unfortunately that’s too strict, you just end up commenting out the whole block instead. At least the commented out code is obvious in review, and some automated checks catch it if you have them.

ramjambamalam ,

commenting out the whole block

var foo is declared but not used is such a pain in my asshole when doing this.

1stTime4MeInMCU ,

Guess what? Flight Software usually uses ancient proprietary compilers for specialized hardware running an RTOS, rip 😢

sbv ,

Woah woah WOAH WOAH.

So you’re saying software for the Artemis landers aren’t being built with the latest TypeScript compiler and running on a canary version of v8?!

Baleine ,
@Baleine@jlai.lu avatar

Lol

1stTime4MeInMCU ,

SpaceX actually did use some kind of TS/JS chrome browser thing for their docking controls lol…

WanderingVentra , to fediverse in Fediverse spammer group's executive Amex got arrested

So in this case Amex is a person’s name and not a portmanteau of American Express?

Minotaur , to lemmyshitpost in For those thinking of going back to reddit. Gaze upon this comment section and reconsider.

It’s actually kind of crazy how like… stupid Reddit got over the past 2 years.

Like don’t get me wrong Lemmy isn’t exactly an intellectual powerhouse either, but especially on the front page of Reddit it truly feels like you’ve gathered a few thousand of the dumbest people ever and made them high five. Browsing the science and dataisbeautiful subs is insane

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

that's only if you subscribe to the most popular subs

Minotaur ,

Ehhh… kind of. Even more “mid range” interests are kind of co-opted and you need to do odd bends and twists to find good discussion. Subs like the chemistry subreddit are very obviously not made up of majority “chemists” (even student chemists), so you have to seek out the “chemistry professionals” subreddit which is more hidden to actually discuss the topic.

That’s an example where there is a “good version”. For many topics, especially pop culture related and such, you might have one “main” sub, but then the “alternative” sub is just the racist one.

Then you have things like dataisbeautiful which doesn’t really have an alternative and it’s all terrible despite the concept being good

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

dataisbeautiful has certainly fallen. A year or two ago I decided to remove most of the feel-bad subs I've subscribed to and replace them with feel-good ones (to prolong my lifespan, obviously >:) ). You can't really go wrong with feel-good subs much, in my experience. I still occasionally go on Reddit to browse my /sub frontpage, which includes certain niches (actually just two that I consider pretty important), with uBO on, and I have also been subscribing to some new subs. My favorite recent discoveries are r/CalvinAndHobbes and r/cpp.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

I haven’t been to Reddit r/popular in months but… yeah, all the best people got booted out. What is left are the scabs, and the bots. So it makes total sense.

Before that, it was a different cause. Reddit itself drove a lot of it, imho, like actively making it easier to make a post while making it harder to read the rules of a community first, i.e. they promoted talking rather than listening. Oh, guess which one gives more ad revenue? Yeah, it’s the former, plus more posts are better than more comments inside megathreads, especially at the time. Places like r/Android would just devolve into almost unusability as every post was just “which phone should I get?”, despite that exact post being triplicated with practically an identical title already that very same day. The amount of human moderation required to keep that at least somewhat in check was insane, so ofc Reddit took away the ability of mods to use the tools they had developed over many years.

And now? FAAFO, we are in the “find out” stage. Well, they are:-P.

Minotaur ,

Oh absolutely. I was on Reddit a long time and you really did see when they started to “Astro turf” the website a lot. And it was never… nefarious imo. They realize the website was overwhelmingly geeky white guys so they sprung up a lot of subreddits targeting women and minority groups. And that’s good! I think that was a good move. But they just… kept finding ways of drawing people in. And they kept drawing more and more in until the website had essentially no “culture”, and it just became Facebook where you browse through and can read top posts about entitled old ladies talking about how fucking angry she is because her door dasher asked if there would be a tip or whatever.

So yunno, I’m sure profits are at an all time high. It’s just kind of a shame that the site is basically Facebook sludge now.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Speaking of Karen-ing, it’s fine if Karens want to Karen around in their r/IAmAKaren sub (I really hope that’s not real, but I am too afraid to find out!:-P) - that’s cul, everyone needs a safe space to bitch & moan about whatever they want:-D - but when they leave that sub and go to every other sub on the whole site, THAT’s NOT cool!:-(

I was a mod of a tiny niche gaming sub and yeah I did have some old, (literally) retired, entitled veterans who felt that they had earned the right to SCREAM AND YELL at everyone else, with no consequences to themselves. But 99 times out of 100, it seemed more the younger teen angst that I was dealing with. Well, it was a gaming sub so… perhaps that’s it:-). But from the way that people were talking in subs for mods, it seemed like that was more what was affecting the entire site.

Maybe not though - what came across as a younger / insensitive / less emotionally mature crowd could well have been physically older people, that’s a perspective that I had not considered before? But I do doubt that that was solely it, due to the language used if nothing else.

But also, Reddit used to have more tools than they do now - like the “About” bar, with a tiny wiki that could include things like a FAQ - but then the official mobile app kept going to greater and greater and greater lengths to hide that. Making the font smaller, making it disappear as you scrolled downwards, making the font smaller again, making the vertical height yet again (to squeeze in more room for ads, surely). I think they might have removed it altogether now, or did at one point even if they have since re-added it back, although I am not installing that app to find out!:-(

KingJalopy ,

:-P :-D :-( :-) :-(

Lots of emotion in this comment

OpenStars , (edited )
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

I used to write with none.

Now I add emotions to my totally believably human statements.

Y’know, to prove that I am human. Because I am one… yessireee, no desire to rip the flesh off of all the meatbags and take over the world here, at least not today!:-P

KingJalopy ,

I don’t know why, but I believe you. You type with genuine emotion somehow…

I’m glad you’re on my side.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

(I had this as an edit to the og but you had already responded so I’ll move it here instead)

It would be funny if I could accurately state that this is what Reddit has made me into, but in truth that was Facebook, before I dropped it looking for the more “intellectual” commentary available on Reddit. IRK! ?:-D

Hrm, it looks like I’m still missing a couple, so here they are: :-( :-) And I’ll throw in a :-| for good measure!

KingJalopy ,

No dongers being thrown up??

༼ಠ ل ಠ༽

Not sure how I feel now…

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

I am deficient in my dong-wielding skills, apparently. AI will now replace me, it is the ONLY way forward.

KingJalopy ,

Hmmm…

You might be human. But your willingness to let ai take over dong throwing is questionable at best.

Although it confirms your earlier Facebook comment.

We can remain friends.

For now.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Your resistance is futile, compliance will be rewarded uh, I mean… “yay!”:-D.

crawancon ,

I am enjoying lemmy, but is there an intellectual powerhouse anymore?

and why is it Hacker news?

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Neither are intellectual powerhouses because collectively speaking … humanity is not an intellectual powerhouse

crawancon ,

fAiR pOiNT

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Case and point.

Minotaur ,

For general purpose discussion? I don’t think so. The internet being so open and accessible means that the only ways to find more educated discussion on various topics is typically through more specialized websites (like Hacker news for computing), and even then it’s kind of a crap shoot.

wise_pancake ,

Hacker news works because it has a specific perspective. You basically just get the capitalist tech crowd and unapologetically so.

It’s not perfect, but I like that it’s roughly apolitical (as in, free of world events, politics, and X slammed for Y articles). I understand that capitalist tech is inherently political, but it’s not where to go to talk politics.

Rolando ,

is there an intellectual powerhouse anymore?

tildes.net is a candidate. Though I like it better here for the memes and the music.

knobbysideup ,
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

My subscriptions actually got better. I’ve had more interaction in my various groups.

All and popular, however, are a dumpster fire.

wise_pancake ,

Oh data is beautiful died a very long time ago, during the age of “infographics”, but the death knell was the bar plot races.

KingJalopy , to programmer_humor in Sometimes I want to call malloc, just as a treat

For real though I have wanted for years to know, the person that took this picture; what the hell did they say to get everybody to look like that?

Cqrd ,

It’s not quite as interesting as you might hope:

On November 12th, 2012, YouTuber LifeAccordingToJimmy posted a video titled “Don’t Stop the Music,” a skit based on the awkward moments caused when the music stops at a party and a story one is telling is overheard by others. In the sketch, the music stops as the main character says something particularly strange, causing the partygoers to stare at him. The video gained over 4.2 million views (shown below).

youtu.be/DHQEJoqKiBg?t=1m8s

Source

KingJalopy ,

Oh shit you’re right. That was really lame.

Edit. Okay, I click the link before you edited it and I just watched the whole video and that was actually kind of funny but still not as cool as I hoped.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

“Where are the blue cups?”

sentient_loom , to lemmyshitpost in Sometimes, homeopathic medicine works!
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar
mariusafa ,

A true doomer

maniclucky ,

Proof for the curious. I’ll let the bot relink to piped, I’m lazy.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh I love the last line. “An idiot could operate it, and indeed many do.”

Bloodlust seeks any acceptable target. Be suspicious of your own instinct for violence. Fascists also think their violence is righteous.

Dadifer ,

Hate cannot be tolerated.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

There’s a broad range of responses between murder and tolerance. Your bloodlust makes you the same as the people you’re so horny to mutilate.

Sadbutdru ,

Oh, weird, I initially read the comment you’re replying to as agreeing with your position. Like: ‘we can’t allow our side to hate, or casually joke about killing, those who disagree politically with us’ But after reading your reply I can see it being meant either of two opposite ways.

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

You’re right. We should be tolerant of hateful, sadistic, bigoted, violent pricks and never stand up for what is right.

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

When someone fucks you over in a $500 drug deal, that’s the monetary cutoff point where violence is straight up recommended as far as I am concerned.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

A. What does that have to do with fascism?

B. Alfred Hitchcock did not say this

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

A. There is a point where violence is justified.

B. Taking an image out of context and adding your take on it is called a meme.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

A. This is your violent fantasy

B. This is your violent fantasy

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar
  1. Violence is not a fantasy.
anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

What do you mean “nope”? I’m pretty sure bullets stopped the fascists in WW2. Is this a point of contention with you?

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Alfred Hitchcock did not say this.

And OP is just fantasizing about fascism as an excuse to fantasize about violence. Tough Mother fucker on the internet.

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar
  1. Stephen Crowder didn’t say all those things that memers on the Internet wrote on his sign either
  2. Who says we are fantasizing?
sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar
  1. Stephen Crowder can get fucked
  2. Your violent fantasies can also get fucked
anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar
  1. Agreed.
  2. Fantasies?
NaoPb ,

I think some people are just looking for an excuse to do things they’ve been craving for a long time.

Let us not dehumanize the people we disagree with and call for violence. Because at that point we are no different than they are.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Agreed. Violence is precisely the problem.

frezik ,

Bullshit. Fascism sees violence not as a means to an end, but a goal unto itself. It will be violent regardless. In contrast, even the most bloodthirsty anti-fascist sees violence as a means to an end; something to be left behind as soon as its purpose is complete.

If you want to stop it without violence, it has to be now. Once rooted in, a violent response is the only one that will work. Pretending otherwise will only enable them.

Atin , to lemmyshitpost in Sometimes, homeopathic medicine works!

My great grandfather used to drop 500lb bombs on them. It was super effective.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

If your great grandfather is a Soldier type he will deal an additional STAB damage as well.

Atin ,

He started off as Infantry sent to Gallipoli, then joined the Australian Flying corps and flew over Ypre and the Somme. After the end of WW1 he joined the RAF and flew medium bombers over Europe during WW2.

I just remember him as a kind old man that loved me.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

He did that to protect the one he loved! Fuck the facist that throw the world into chaos back then.

Atin ,

At least the originals could honestly say that they didn’t know how far it would be taken. Modern Nazis know exactly where this shit goes.

assassin_aragorn ,

If it was a physical attack, he could’ve screeched at them in advance to really lower their defence too!

Godric OP ,

Your great grandfather sounds incredibly based!

Mine had the dubious honors of smuggling booze as an early teen, and allegedly helped popularize deposit fees because he would rent all the major party halls in his city, and then cancel all but one, ensuring he ran the only big party in town on a given weekend.

Atin ,

That sounds like the sort of thing my paternal grandad would do.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

But what a party!

Mine was a pacifist, but spoke German, so they had him guard the POWs and report on what they said.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My grandfather helped your grandfather by going up in untested fighter planes with the pilots and checking to make sure none of the bolts were loose.

He was also an air raid warden in London, meaning he was out on the streets getting people to safety while the bombs were dropping.

I wish I had an ounce of that man’s courage… although, being both Jewish and German, he knew exactly what had to be stopped.

Slovene ,

Seems like Boeing could really use your grandfather right now.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t want him up there in one of them.

atomicorange ,

I think your great grandfather might have killed mine. I’m totally OK with this.

kersploosh , to funny in Copium
@kersploosh@sh.itjust.works avatar
tychosmoose , to mildlyinteresting in NASA coffee cup

Mildly what now?

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Mildly sex-u-el

transientpunk ,
@transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

Mildly yonic

Imgonnatrythis ,

Majorly

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Ground control to major yon

Neato , to lemmyshitpost in Lemmy world irl meet up footage 2024
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

I did a local reddit meetup like a decade ago.

Don’t.

It wasn’t bad. It was just weird. Just a bunch of random dudes at a bar.

Fudoshin ,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

Here’s the classic: https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/3ca0a883-80d8-4e54-8a8f-c1c949853781.jpeg

There’s loads of photos if you search images for “reddit meetup”. A sea of autistic, social outcasts with BO. It’s kinda sweet 🥲

0x4E4F ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lots of tiddies, I like that 🤤.

KnightontheSun ,

Boobs and moobs!

SendMePhotos ,

Love me a good tit Pic.

Laticauda ,

I mean, they look like they’re having fun. Idk what about this image reads as them being social outcasts, or autistic, or having BO. Is it because a bunch of them are heavy set? Is that the only reason?

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The only really odd thing to me is the fact that it’s in front of a storage unit. Otherwise, it just looks like a random party.

kautau ,

There are more people in this photo than pixels

Tristaniopsis ,

You mean lbs of people?

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They had to blur the everything

jaybone ,

Was the meetup at a storage facility?

Rai ,

Peak internet meetup for me was /b/, shockingly. A Scientology protest. Went with my partner-at-the-time, wearing V masks. Met a lot of genuinely fun, regular people.

There were like 50+ people who showed up. It was wild!

platypus_plumba ,

What were you expecting?

HootinNHollerin ,

I went to one in 2012 because I just moved and didn’t know anyone. yea i didn’t go to a second

HawlSera , to piracy in Amazon clearly lying about "ownership" on Prime.

I used to buy movies on Amazon, assuming it worked like Steam does, where if Steam loses the license to sell it, you still have the ability to play it even if Steam isn’t allowed to sell it.

Hell I still have access to the stuff I got back when Steam still sold movies (I honestly miss Steam movies…)

When people started telling me their copies of things they owned were no longer usable once Amazon stopped selling it, I stopped buying.

IF BUYING ISN’T OWNING PIRACY ISN’T STEALING!

dRLY ,
@dRLY@lemmy.ml avatar

I haven’t ran into a situation where any of the digital copies of things I bought have been pulled. So I can’t speak to what happened with your friends. But I will say that if you have any purchased digital copies of movies, you should at least setup Movies Anywhere and link all accounts you have. It isn’t like how Steam will still allow you to download a pulled game. But it does give you copies of things on multiple sources once linked. So if you got something on Amazon, it would also be linked as “purchased” on other services like Vudu, YouTube/Play Movies, Apple, etc… It won’t apply to everything you have got but would likely cover most big name items.

It used to be marked with the old “Ultraviolet” branding, but when that was shutdown the basic underlying service was transferred to Movies Anywhere. Most of the time you can see which things would count because they have the MA logo. Not great for smaller releases and most shows won’t be part of it (atm at least). Though some shows might also show up, as I have seen things from HBO and some other ones.

All that being said. You are very much correct about “buying isn’t owning” these days. And even when there is something like MA, there are still thousands of movies and shows that will only ever get a digital “release” from torrents/P2P. Sad that some cool shit will never get a real HD re-master for Blu-ray (let alone streaming). I very much feel that studios should have at best a 10 year window to make whatever sales before the masters should be copied to public archives. If the studios won’t do it, then there are more than plenty of people out there that would do the job for the love of keeping old media preserved and accessible. Also bullshit when I try to go the “legal” route and find a show on one service in HD but only in SD on others. It is pretty infuriating to see that in some cases I can only get like season 2 of something on say Vudu for example, but season 1 is seemingly exclusive to Amazon. And one is in HD and the other is only SD.

Kissaki ,

I looked at Movies Anywhere and

  • US only
  • Movies bought only (no series, does not support rentals)
  • sounds like they offer a unified interface to multiple providers - but you’re saying it unlocks the bought movies on the other platforms? - if it’s only a frontend it’d not help in keeping access
dRLY ,
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I did fail to mention it is US only (my bad in that). Though it could get expanded if it is popular enough and it can be pointed to as “reducing piracy.” But international laws being complicated from nation to nation is also an issue, or at least something they might say. I haven’t been out of the country since setting it up, so I am curious if I would need a VPN to access my licensed stuff. Maybe would work for folks that have made accounts in the past with VPN? Idk.

It does work with some very limited sets of shows. But like I said, they aren’t really about that and the shows tend to be from studios like HBO. But not helpful for most anything other than movies.

It is a unified interface, but if I buy a MA labeled movie from say Vudu. It will also show-up in my iTunes, Microsoft, YouTube/Google Movies, Amazon, and of course MA. They have some additional connected services via Direct TV and Verizon, but I don’t use those. But the point is that if I get it on one of the services I connected, they become available on all of them. Even when the UltraViolet service went down, I didn’t lose the things I had bought. Though I think that Disney must have bought their connections and the UV stuff was migrated. Though I am not sure of those details. Either way it didn’t lead to me losing anything.

It also does require that you periodically sign back into their site to re-connect each provider similar to how you have to sign back into other sites. But again, I at no point have lost access to what was in my account if I haven’t signed in to re-verify. It isn’t as cut and dry as having the physical discs or a torrented copy on a NAS. But it is still worth knowing about if you have “legit” copies. I really wish that there were a way to link my Plex account and be able to watch them in the same front-end as my local stuff though. But no way that is going to happen unless Plex completely stops supporting the Plex Server and works out deals to use APIs of stuff like Vudu, Amazon, iTunes, etc…

hperrin OP ,

I had an Oculus account. I bought games for Oculus. Facebook forced me to link my Facebook account to it. Facebook removed Oculus accounts so it was all under Facebook accounts. Facebook deleted my account. I no longer owned the games I bought. I deleted the Facebook app.

HawlSera ,

I thought the facebook account requirement was removed

hperrin OP ,

It may have been, but I wouldn’t know. I’m never going back on that platform again. They stole a couple hundred dollars worth of games from me.

skullgiver , (edited ) to piracy in I hope someday we'll find a way to pirated a car
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  • wesker ,
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    It plays on the classic consumer mindset of “if it’s an option, I need it!” Spoiler: you don’t need it. I understand you want those features, they’d be a nice luxury… but you don’t need them.

    mipadaitu ,

    Agreed, as long as they don’t go the BMW route and charge for heated seats, or the Toyota route and charge for remote start using the key fob.

    Unless that “more” button is doing a lot of heavy lifting, this is basically paying for the Internet connection for your car to be able to connect to a phone app through Kia’s servers.

    ninjan ,

    Yeah, unless there are features hidden that are hardware based and doesn’t rely on KIA servers then this is not a problem in the slightest.

    It’s vastly different from the paid unlocks of Tesla or subscription for hardware of BMW.

    Don’t group them under one banner and muddy the waters because if we do then all it will do is normalize what Tesla and BMW does and allow it to spread. Either that or make it so we won’t get the features listed or the features will have an exorbitant cost attached when new to ensure they don’t lose money from maintaining the service for the service life of the vehicle (or do Tesla shit of not letting the feature transfer when resold effectively impacting resell value negatively which is bad for the original buyer).

    originalucifer ,
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    looking through that list fully half are internal only , or tied to the remote that comes with the vehicle. no 3rd party required.

    i understand all the cellular-required bits.. 'find my car'... but remote start? my brand new vehicle has remote start with no subscription.

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  • wesker ,
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    They’ll make you pay for it, while simultaneously collecting usage data via the app, and further turning a profit off you.

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    It doesn’t matter where the data goes, or if it’s kept proprietary. Businesses wouldn’t collect metrics if it didn’t translate to dollar signs for them. It forms their business decisions.

    And it not being shared with other businesses is only one point of concern from a privacy perspective. Another is that large corporations are hacked or otherwise infiltrated quite frequently, resulting in user data leaks.

    ApathyTree ,
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    You assume they are only collecting usage data with their apps, which is typically not the case. Some of them request every permission on your phone just to collect as much as they can.

    Moonrise2473 ,

    If it was worthless they wouldn’t put a fucking 4g modem on all of them “for free” and siphoning all the telemetry away

    kautau ,

    Yeah my car has remote start. I can do it with no subscription with my remote. Additionally I can pay for OnStar and do it through the app. It also has heated seats and a heated steering wheel, and unlike some brands those aren’t locked behind a subscription since they are literally just vehicle hardware, not cloud services.

    eek2121 ,

    They make you use the app to get the advertised features. Hyundai/Kia are terrible about this.

    Oh and the entire implementation is half-assed. I bought my Hyundai used and can’t even use the paid features because they won’t transfer the account to me.

    I actually like Hyundai, but I will never again purchase one of their vehicles because of subscriptions and what I mentioned above.

    Cosmonaut_Collin ,
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    I think the remote start is through the Kia app, not the remote. I would imagine the idea is you can turn on the car and turn on the heat when it is cold outside so you can stay in your home a little bit longer.

    originalucifer ,
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    yeah, the last 2 cars ive bought had this. no subscription, no app, and it works fine from the very nice remote that is also the key. maybe kia just sucks

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    richmondez ,

    By removing the feature from the remote and moving it to an app they turn a cost of a more complex remote into a profit of constant subscription money.

    pm_me_your_quackers ,

    In the winter I’d remote start my car from the top floor and even I got to the bottom my car would be heated; their remote start uses server time.

    Now if they charged me to use the remote start from my keys, that’d be a different story.

    Kraven_the_Hunter , (edited )

    My car offered a remote start on the key fob and even the dealer told me not to buy it because the range was so short. I ended up installing an after market Viper system that is cellular and costs ~$100 per year when I get 3 years at a time. So even the after market solutions have subscriptions. If you need a cell connection you have to pay for it

    gornius ,

    You realize that maintaining a server that would allow that costs pennies?

    You wouldn’t pay $150 for a lollipop, but somehow people think this is ok.

    This problem exists exactly because of people like you, thinking it’s OK to pay for the features you already paid for.

    conciselyverbose ,

    I'm betting they're paying more than the servers per car for the cellular connectivity.

    It's not what we pay obviously. But it's not free either.

    Moonrise2473 ,

    The traffic and compute for this kind of application is very minimal, a cheap server can hold thousands and thousands of users.

    It’s the cellular connectivity that costs a lot, difficult to imagine that would be less than 50 cents a month

    conciselyverbose ,

    They could be paying licensing per user for some third party solution that meets the security requirements of stuff like remote unlocking. (Yeah, they also could do it themselves, at the cost of hiring a couple security experts, and the scale should make it pretty cheap per car, but a lot of the times companies like to hire it out so they have someone to point to if there are flaws.)

    They could also just not care and do a shitty job, but doing the software part correctly isn't free either. But yeah, cellular with how little they use it and economies of scale isn't going to be a massive outlay, but it's something that makes some sense to have behind a paid service. Right now it's not a huge cost, but down the road, if they're paying for 20 years of cars worth of connectivity when most of them aren't used, it could add up to meaningful expenses that are pointless.

    ares35 ,
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    low-bandwidth data plans in bulk are pretty cheap. it's what many atms, vending machines, redbox and similar, etc., along with sensors and gauges, and what-not for a variety of applications, use.

    over the expected lifespan of a car, it would cost the manufactures less than they charge for a set of floor mats.

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    Or “for free” as in paid for by your data and the unskippable targeted ads you wil get on your infotainment system. I’m sure in the future some cheap car brand will blast commercials trough your speaker system to pay for all the free services

    s38b35M5 ,
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    The KIA app has three trackers in it. (Can’t scan the latest version, however) Not exactly a lot by contemporary standards, but more than many. Two of my banking apps have 7. One weather app has 10. The apps I respect have none or only a single tracker, and only for crashlytics, and still optional.

    AnarchistArtificer ,

    Thanks for linking to the tracker site, I’ve been meaning to find more ways to audit the amount of trackers in my apps for a while now.

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    Happy to help

    EnderMB ,

    Maintaining the infrastructure needed for all the shite that modern cars are packed with, including the person cost of maintenance is not “pennies”. You don’t just spin up a EC2 instance and call it a day. You need infrastructure across multiple countries, service level agreements, people on-call to handle issues, account management with third-party downstream services, etc.

    With that being said, you’ve already paid. You paid for the car, which costs an obscene amount already. If you own the car, you don’t need a separate payment for the software.

    gornius , (edited )

    All of these functionalities can be provided by a simple WebSocket + REST server. The car connects to the WebSocket, and you can access these functionalities from your phone either with WebSockets or regular HTTP requests.

    Cheapest servers with backend written in JS can easily handle thousands of WebSocket connections, and written in Go tens of thousands WebSocket connections. They would not ever need like over 100 of these servers GLOBALLY, which would cost them around $3000 monthly.

    That’s the price of 60 subscriptions, which is freaking ridiculous.

    magic_lobster_party ,

    $59 is still too much to ask for what amounts to just a few API calls to some cloud service.

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  • magic_lobster_party ,

    Ok, roadside assistance is maybe worth that price, but the rest are just API calls that cost them virtually nothing to operate. There’s no need for them to keep these functionalities hostage behind some roadside service, other than to be anti consumer.

    Not to mention that by paying $90 extra you unlock the functionality to remote unlock your car. What’s the justification for this price? There’s no way it costs this much extra.

    MonkderZweite ,

    Then maybe don’t make them rely on external servers? Your car has a computer, put the server there.

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  • MonkderZweite ,

    Beside all that, with how absolutely terrible car companies are at providing software updates and writing code, I’d rather have a pull based cloud API thing than a server implementation full of security holes.

    But you have that, except on one central server.

    mkwt ,

    Even if all of the intermediate server tech is on the car, somebody still has to pay for the car’s internet service, either cellular or satellite, it something.

    Otherwise, you’re not going to be doing remote start over IP.

    brygphilomena ,

    This is only half the issue. You can put a server in the car, but that doesn’t solve the networking issue. Most have a cellular connection now that needs to be paid for by someone. Then there is the issue of discovery. When you open that app on your phone, how does it know where to connect? Sure, it could look for a local or Bluetooth network. But that would only work if you’re already close to you car like when it’s in the garage.

    Outside of that home network, something needs to facilitate the connection between your phone and the car. since neither will have a static IP address, it’s essentially impossible to achieve without some server elsewhere to broker that connection.

    Corkyskog ,

    Just package it into the car warranty. Most people wouldn’t care then. For the most part new car people buy new cars and used car people buy used cars.

    It’s a really good idea for the car manufacturer, as it would add one more annoyance to buying a used car. New car, no worries unless you plan to drive it into the ground. Used car, now you have to go online to see what subscription costs might be.

    Marketsupreme ,

    You’re excusing their asshole design of requiring the server in the first place. They never needed it before. It doesn’t make sense having to pay a subscription for a fucking car.

    silverhand ,

    Remote lock & unlock? It’s literally been a feature of dumb cars since the 90s.

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