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Psaldorn , to gaming in Classic Microsoft
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

Genuine question: why does bedrock exist? What does it bring? Why is there the choice between java, bedrock and “Minecraft for windows”?

How do you fuck up this badly?

I tried using the launcher to move a java install from C: to another drive and it just points there and doesn’t do anything? Steam had this stuff figured years ago

Opisek ,

Minecraft rewritten for better performance with platform interoperability in mind and so on. Essentially what could’ve or should’ve been a replacement to Minecraft if done right. It was not done right. Quite the opposite.

Mango ,

In what world is c++ better for cross platform than Java?

Xatolos ,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

In a world with consoles. Java needs a JVM, and those aren’t typical with things like the Switch (2 soon), PS5, and Xbox Series (half the alphabet).

Mango ,

Oh ok that’s fair enough. I forget those exist sometimes.

EatATaco ,

You forget consoles exist?

Xatolos ,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

I think they meant JVMs.

Mango ,

Yeah, except retro consoles.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

C++ is generally more performant than Java.

…vercel.app/java-vs-cpp

Mango ,

What’s that got to do with making things cross platform? Java programs only need to run in a Java runtime environment of which there’s one for basically everything. If you make something that runs in a JRE, it’ll be able to run on any device with a JRE that’s up to date for it.

kewjo ,

given how many targets are supported by llvm there’s really little difference in cross platform support asides from building artifacts for the specific target platform. wrapping package delivery in a package manager removes the additional complexity to the end user.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

Minecraft Java runs like dog shit. Making a faster port of it was worth it. They just botched it because Microsoft got its hands on it.

Mango ,

Oh yeah that totally explains why it’s always been perfectly fine for me as long as I’m not looking at a giant wall of those shelves that display their contents from whatever modpack that was.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

Bedrock routinely outperforms java.

piped.video/watch?v=qLjOIulsNcM

piped.video/watch?v=Z4GrbD2MA5o

piped.video/watch?v=p_mCekWWW_8

Just because you’re perfectly fine doesn’t mean all other machines are.

Mango ,

So? What’s that got to do with making it cross platform?

I could ask what makes food hot and you would come in here telling me your refrigerator brand uses less electricity.

Olgratin_Magmatoe , (edited )

I wasn’t strictly talking about cross platform. I was talking about performance, which is tangential to the cross platform thing.

If you’re planning on making a game cross platform, you should choose a language that performs well for gaming on all platforms. Java ain’t that. Which answers your question:

In what world is c++ better for cross platform than Java?

C++ is better for this application.

supersquirrel ,

Good thing we have Minetest and Vintage Story!

fhqwgads ,

Because Bedrock runs on phones, tablets, consoles, and a host of other random crap, and does so relatively well. Because of that the install base and playtime especially among younger players is actually massively skewed toward Bedrock being the more used. Add to that rumors that the Java codebase at least was a terrible mess, and the performance issues Java edition still has to this day and it’s no wonder they wanted to do a full rewrite, especially after having to make things like the console editions and even one for the 3DS.

The windows launcher is annoying though.

kadu ,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

There’s also the fact that Bedrock patches bugs that the Java community freaks out about patching. Several chunk update glitches and undesirable redstone behavior are exploited by the Java players, and they go nuts over the idea of fixing the issues. Bedrock, being a new codebase, obviously didn’t port over old crusty bugs and therefore doesn’t have to carry over those expectations.

fhqwgads ,

To be fair I’d call it a wash. Bedrock fixes a lot of weird stuff like quasi connectivity and being able to push things like chests with pistons but also introduces it’s own bugs like weird timing things and randomly taking fall damage. There’s also weird differences like being able to do things with cauldrons or just like minor texture differences that they are slowly bringing into sync.

Psaldorn ,
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the info + @kadu & @Opisek

UnityDevice ,

Because Bedrock runs on phones, tablets, consoles, and a host of other random crap

And it also removes Linux support. Typical Microsoft.

accideath ,

Linux and mac and any other x86 compatible platform that runs java…

MonkderDritte ,

Bedrock not Java.

accideath ,

Yes exactly. Java runs on Windows, macOS, Linux and any x86 compatible operating system that supports the Java runtime environment. Minecraft bedrock removes support for all of those but Windows.

Jakeroxs ,

And adds support for Playstation, Xbox, Switch, Android, iOS…

accideath ,

They all had minecraft before bedrock was a thing yet. That legacy minecraft without crossplay just got replaced by bedrock.

fhqwgads ,

To be fair there’s a Linux version of the bedrock server. But yeah not having it on the steam deck is pretty annoying.

0ops ,

Go into desktop mode, there’s a bedrock launcher in the package manager store thing, I forgot the names of both of those things, but search “Minecraft” and you should find it. Anyway, it basically loads the Android version of the game. It works pretty well. I play bedrock because everyone I play with is on Xbox

nrezcm ,

Fairly certain I’ve had both versions working on our steam deck. It’s pretty straight forward like you’re saying.

derpgon ,

Also swapped performance issues with more bugs that were there years ago and still persist because they are almost impossible to fix.

In the end, we all know it was done either because they wanted to shove microtransactions down our throat and/or had some kind of deal to maintain the Java edition without microtransactions.

Or, maybe, just maybe, they though “it’s just a block game, what could be so hard to rewrite it?” and absolutely failed what a single person got right almost immediately back in the day (like not falling through the floor all the time).

jyte ,

rumors

You can remove that word, rly.

endhits ,

Java is a hilariously bad platform for games.

kaffiene ,

No it isn’t

NiPfi ,

What makes you say that? I’m genuinely curious

Honytawk ,

Java is (or at least used to be) one of the first languages new programmers started with.

Making it very accessible to create new mods.

NiPfi ,

I haven’t modded as of yet but I started off with Java and am now a C# Dev and the transition wasn’t too hard since most of the same principles apply to both languages. Unity games, that are often written in C# to me are the most moddable ones, especially considering that there’s a ecosystem for Unity mods out of the box

kaffiene ,

Minecraft. Runescape. Mindustry. Slay the Spire. Project Zomboid. Doodle Jump. Shattered Pixel Dungeon. Delver. Lots of mobile games. Also It’s rediculous to say Java is inappropriate for games when C# is used for games via Unity (unity is the value proposition there - c# is very similar to Java)

joe_cool ,

Only if you’re incompetent. Otherwise just not optimal.

Starsector, Rise to Ruins and Project Zomboid run well and are made in Java for example. It’s harder to pull off but it can be done. (still needs native libraries though)

RandomVideos ,

Is there even a choice? You now get both games when you buy one(and you get the other game for free if you already own one) and you can play on bedrock on java servers with geysermc

Psaldorn ,
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

I accidentally bought Minecraft for windows for someone when I wanted java… so that was fun.

The launcher just says “here are the options” it doesn’t say why you might want to choose one over another. Ive played since day 0 so I’ve always gone with java.

Just felt like if bedrock was meant to replace java they should have just done it and dealt with it instead of having so many choices.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

Minecraft for windows is the old name for bedrock.
it was based on the same MCPE codebase

Crashumbc ,

Honestly? Most large companies are more like high school. It’s all, friend groups, people rubbing each other’s backs, and in-fighting between departments.

A lot of VERY LARGE decisions get made for the stupidest reason.

Passerby6497 , to lemmyshitpost in Derps of Tiktok

Nirvana brand t-shirts.

zerog_bandit ,

Kurt died for this

Cowbee , (edited )
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Lemme just head on over to the Nirvana store to pick up a couple of tees, lol

intensely_human ,

We can have some more. Branding is a whore.

FartsWithAnAccent , to lemmyshitpost in That wasn't a microwave safe bowl...
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Oh no, are we beanposting again???

over_clox ,

Beans & Jeans

Make it happen…

capt_wolf ,
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar
over_clox ,

Yay, happy day! 👍

Viking_Hippie ,

New lemmy logo just dropped 😄

dingus ,

Ok but why is this actually cute tho

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

Yeah, they could probably sell these as a novelty item.

Revan343 ,

Oh yeah we are

CancerMancer , to mildlyinfuriating in This website that threatens anyone who right clicks

Audiophile equipment is just magic crystal bullshit for pseudointellectuals.

rab ,
@rab@lemmy.ca avatar

To an extent yes but it’s essentially just extreme deminishing returns

FiskFisk33 ,

there are both categories.
Some things are marginally better and incredibly expensive.
Other things, such as garden hose power snakes and these “audiophile crystals” are just pure scam.

rab ,
@rab@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve never even heard of audiophile crystals, I didn’t realize that was a direct reference lol

barsoap ,

I’d be all up for some diminishing returns but the price premium is nowhere close to adequate. For the price of an overbuilt headphone amp you can buy a soldering iron and parts for three amps that are four times as overbuilt. And include a metrology-grade DAC in all of them.

And, yes, my headphone cable is oxygen-free copper. I simply chose the cheapest suitable cable I could find at Thomann, the stuff is so cheap they’re throwing it in there for diminishing returns in sales.

PopMyCop , to lemmyshitpost in Machines don't know their place

I wish fucking supermarkets would understand this. I don’t have to be told in a super loud fucking annoying voice that I need to place the object in the bagging area, or switch to the other machine to use my card. I’ve already hit the fucking button to use the cc machine, you fucking nonces! I’ve already placed the goddamn stupid fucking bananas in the stupid fucking bagging area, shut the fuck up! AAAAAH!

It’s even worse now because you used to be able to mute the mother fucker, but now they’ve disabled that option.

yamapikariya ,
@yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com avatar

I just wear noise cancelling earbuds when shopping and listen to my podcasts

balancedchaos ,

I usually say, “You’re welcome, creepy disembodied voice.” Sometimes the people around me chuckle. Other times they look at me like I’m crazy. Both are valid.

CaptKoala ,

I think you should update it to “You’re welcome, creepy disembodied voice that stole someones job.”

Mac ,

You may not but many people do need to be told what to do.

deranger ,

Sure, but that doesn’t mean they have to remove the mute button or make it so damn loud.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

It’s less expensive than having a worker do it. I get what you’re saying. So do the people that design these processes. They don’t care about anything but efficiency and the lowest common denominator.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

Granma Mabel who is 94 but still insists on buying her own groceries needs it to be that damn loud and it’s easier for the supermarkets to just make that the default option. I only defend it because it makes practical sense, I don’t like it that loud either.

But, agreed, for the love of fuck, give me the mute button. Please.

Bonus pro tip: all the annoying gas station screens that blare ads and tiktoks at you can also usually be muted. All the ones in my area have 8 unmarked soft buttons around the screen and the second one from the top on the right side is the mute button. It seems consistent across all brands of gas station with ad screens.

Gestrid ,

the second one from the top on the right side is the mute button.

I’m trying this the next time I pull up to a Shell station. I hate feeling like I’m in a Ford truck commercial thanks to that music they play every time I fill up there.

kungen ,

Imagine going to a supermarket with a real cashier instead.

kokopelli ,

I’ve had good luck with Walmart self-checkouts, they seem to trust you are doing the right thing. Price Chopper stores though… my god.

“Please place the item in the bag”

“Please remove the item from the bag, and start again” (yes with the pause)

“Do you have any coupons?”

“Do you have any items under the cart?”

NO! SHUT UP!

Gestrid ,

“Do you have any items under the cart?”

That one’s actually kinda useful, TBH. I used to work as a bagger, and it’s surprising how many times shoppers forget (whether intentionally or not) they put a pack of water bottles or tissue paper or something on the bottom of the cart.

The others are just annoying, though.

kokopelli ,

Yeah, that one is useful. I know why they’re there but it gets very old after a while.

Fuck_u_spez_ ,

Here’s a thought. You fuckers have my goddamn Kroger Plus card number, my name, address, credit card information, and a record of every last grape I’ve ever purchased in one of your stores. How 'bout, after we show up for the second or third time, you assume we might no longer need to be told to uSe piN PAd tO coMPleTe trAnsActIon?!‽ aaaaAAAHHHHHHH

Aremel , to memes in Stop! Stop! Those horses are already dead!

Better than beans and Stroganoff.

…I think.

rockSlayer ,

You take that back! Beanposting was peak content

pancakes ,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

It was the best week of my life

wise_pancake ,

I missed stroganoff and beans. Have we done guacamole posting?

PopcornPrincess ,

Be the change you want to see.

Cannibal_MoshpitV3 ,

Guac costs extra

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Unlike your mom.

Viking_Hippie ,

Guac on your mom still costs extra, though.

jaybone ,

Something something chickpea

blanketswithsmallpox ,

You know it. She got that high class dip.

TropicalDingdong ,

Stör

Bene7rddso ,

And No Poop Challenge

capital , to aboringdystopia in Schools in America apparently have their own army recruiter

I’ll go against the grain here.

I joined not long after high school because I wasn’t gonna be able to pay for college, not that I was a good student anyway.

Spent most of my 4 year Air Force enlistment in the UK doing what I wanted - sysad, basically. Never deployed.

Got out and worked for increasingly higher pay and now I make $250k+ without a college degree.

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  • anivia ,

    He literally says he is a sysadmin, what are you talking about???

    capital , (edited )

    No.

    The only code I write is hacky scripts.

    theherk ,

    Similar story. Air Force 6 years, barely a degree worth noting, and tech jobs since. And damn good times and friendships were had. Wouldn’t trade it for the world. But… I would take it back if I had killed people. Never wanted to do that. Thankfully there is more to the mission than killing innocents on behalf of oil magnates.

    buzz86us ,

    Yeah this government system sucks either go into massive debt, or risk dying or depression to protect the interests of a company extracting an obsolete fuel

    Che_Donkey ,
    @Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml avatar

    Same, gave me some experience and set me on my career path.

    Did my 4 years on bases with no flight lines (Like being in the navy and never stepping foot on a ship, lol) and only deployed to humanitarian missions even though the first gulf war was going on.

    Still keep in touch with people i worked/lived with all those years ago.

    Different world now and am glad my children didnt have to make that decision.

    hakunawazo ,

    ^^ Found the lemmy air force recruiter

    capital ,

    Well I am assigned to this community…

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I joined not long after high school because I wasn’t gonna be able to pay for college, not that I was a good student anyway.

    Should you not be pissed off that this was one of the very few options you had in order to have a chance at success later in life because of your economic situation rather than touting this as a good idea?

    capital ,

    More options are better, usually, so sure, I would have liked the option not to join.

    But like I said, I’m a terrible student and still haven’t gone back to use my education benefit even though it would cost me nothing but time.

    I’m simply providing a counter to the sentiment “I don’t wanna die for some oil company”.

    To be honest, I think it every time I see people complaining about their prospects. Rather than bitch about it online, I did something to upgrade my socioeconomic status.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Is it a counter? Because your argument seems to be that risking dying for some oil company was worth it for you because you ended up successful since you didn’t die.

    That seems more like a caveat than a counter.

    capital ,

    This is hard to convey to people who didn’t serve but my job, even if I had deployed, was low risk.

    I worked in datacenters where I needed a jacket to stay warm year round.

    I wore the same pair of boots, issued to me in basic, my entire 4 years because I sat on my ass the majority of the time. They never needed replacing.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Did you know how low the risk was going to be when you signed up? Do you think most people sign up knowing that there will be little likelihood that they will die in a war?

    capital ,

    I did and I would expect most do because the jobs are public.

    I considered pararescue and the difference between that and what I did was clear before joining.

    aidan ,

    Yes, most people that sign up for infantry want to do it

    intensely_human ,

    Have you ever worked on anything that made you feel bad?

    capital ,

    I hardly even know what most of these systems produce.

    It’s like working on a vehicle engine without knowing where it’s been or where it’s headed.

    nbdjd ,

    I’m so envious. That’s what I wanted to do when joining the Navy. The paper said “advanced electronics computer field” and I ended up as an Electronics Technician. What a waste. The cost of ignorance is high. I didn’t have a mentor or father to guide me in such things. Now I’m in my late 30s studying AWS and tryin’ to make a change :-\

    diskmaster23 ,

    Hey, you are doing it, bud. Forgive your younger self. It needs love too.

    nbdjd ,

    I appreciate you. I need to remember that I did the best I could at that moment and time. Hindsight and “what could’ve been “ can be such a bummer and debilitating.

    capital ,

    I went in thinking “if I hate it, I stick it out 4 years then get out and go to school”. But it just happened to work out well.

    Allero ,

    It is fairly dystopian in itself that army is used as a social mobility tool. A ton of resources go into luring young men into doing what is ultimately useless, dangerous and harmful. Resources that could be spent to help so much more people.

    capital ,

    I’m afraid the world will soon find out what happens when the US doesn’t play world cop. I think the US and its allies will be worse off for it.

    Given the choice between Russia, China, or the US, my choice is clear.

    Regarding it being a social mobility tool, I’d like to think of myself as a realist, if nothing else. The facts remain:

    1. This is just how it is right now
    2. It works
    Allero ,

    Everything can work as social mobility tool if govt decides it to be. They can make a plan to boost any other sector of the economy and create a lot of super high-pay jobs which would achieve just the same while being actually productive for society, i.e. returning something tangible on taxpayer’s dollars.

    And yes, the world should know US shouldn’t be a world cop. Neither should China or Russia for that matter. The world cop should be the UN, the Security Council, and the UN Peacekeeper force.

    No single country is a good fit for the role, and all would severely abuse their power, leading to a ton of suffering.

    Serinus ,

    It’s better than not having social mobility at all.

    Allero ,

    The point is not to eliminate this one leaving nothing, but rather to actually build other routes - something that goes through productive labor beneficial for society.

    Science. Engineering. Art. Medicine. And a lot more.

    CarbonIceDragon , to cat in Whose cat are you?
    @CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

    Unless it’s within two hours in either direction of the cats feeding time, in which case “I wuv u, have u noticed ur poor kitty is starving and the food bowl is empty? Here let me get all up in your face in case you’ve forgotten about me…”

    evatronic ,

    Also, hey hello, now look at my butthole.

    Icalasari ,

    Apparently that's due to their mothers licking the buttholes to clean them when they were little

    So they are going, "You're my parent now, get to cleaning"

    evatronic ,

    TIL: I have a perpetually disappointed cat.

    GentlemanLoser ,

    Hey that cat is from Ohio

    Snowpix ,
    @Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

    Meanwhile their bowl has plenty of food in it, but because the bottom is visible, the rest no longer exists

    joby ,

    I’ve heard that the issue for some cats isn’t that they can see the bottom, but that their whiskers hit the side of the bowl and that’s uncomfortable.

    Cheskaz ,

    My cat rarely bothers us about food. But if we’ve not played with him, or toured the (exterior, communal building) hallway in the last few hours…he doth scream.

    And I’m pretty sure he uses his abs when meowing because the boi can project!

    bort , to technology in Skyrocketing bluesky engagement since opening to the public

    oh nice. If this trend continues, they will be by 4 million tommorrow and 20 million next week and by summer every human on earth will have an account.

    psychothumbs OP ,

    And then onward to the extraterrestrial market!

    dogslayeggs ,

    Disco Stu would be proud.

    brbposting ,

    You’re now a moderator of c/capitalism & c/investing

    dukk ,
    brbposting ,
    Lesrid ,

    Cool I’ve discovered my newest fetish.

    NegativeLookBehind , to cat in This is my cat, Belinda. She loves treats and pets!
    @NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

    Your cat barked at me, you should really get that checked out

    Darkard ,

    She’s bilingual

    yhvr , to funny in The Man, the Myth, the Legend

    This guy goes by the name Skweezy Jibbs, and he’s actually a comedian! Look him up if you don’t know him, he’s done some pretty funny stuff. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/skweezy-jibbs

    Chuymatt ,

    And also quite bizarrely wholesome, too.

    Kusimulkku ,
    aew360 , to memes in Their boycotts are always so effective...

    It’s funny they’re still boycotting the NFL. They all supposedly finished boycotting it during the kneeling and BLM controversies that occurred years ago.

    They’re essentially opting out of all of the cultural ties they had to America at large. They only want to associate with their own cultists. Aside from the irony of them creating a safe space, they’re also creating a breeding ground for militants and extremists. It’s no surprise we had a guy chop his dad’s head off for being a government employee.

    Yondoza ,

    That’s quite a bomb to drop in your last sentence. Gonna need a source on that one.

    MashedPotatoJeff ,

    mediaite.com/…/man-displays-fathers-severed-head-…

    I thought we were all looking at the same 10 posts here!

    whostosay ,

    Sort by 6 hours homie

    DadVolante ,
    @DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I really wish it had a 3 hour option

    whostosay ,

    I think that would be closer to Active, but I honestly can’t say how that one is sorted

    aew360 ,

    I thought we were all looking at the same 10 posts here!

    This is exactly how it feels 😂 compared to Reddit, I actually really enjoy that. This still has a cozy community vibe, kinda like Reddit did back in 2012 or 2013. Then it all just kinda fractured. Not really a bad thing, as Reddit hosts so many close community, but I do miss how it felt in its earlier years where the entire site had this kinda kindred feeling about it.

    I hope we all get to experience this more one day when we completely bungle an attempt to correctly identify a domestic terrorist

    jballs ,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Wt actual f

    captainlezbian ,

    Excuse me what the actual fuck

    Uranium3006 ,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    Lemmy's grown. There's 11 posts now

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

    Not this month. It shrunk again in January.

    Szymon ,

    Happened yesterday, indoctrined right wing self proclaimed conspiracy theorist son killed his “traitor” father and showed the severed head on YouTube for a few hours.

    TropicalDingdong ,

    Yeah I had to check out after that.

    Too much.

    IndiBrony ,
    @IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

    Yet they’re the ones who think everyone else is destroying America. Not sure how many leftists have severed the heads of their fathers to date…

    Szymon ,

    Keep on mind that their America IS being destroyed. They’re happy in an American where they are free to judge and hate people. The rest of us aren’t, it’s being taken back, and they’re putting up a fight for it.

    They don’t get that they’ll be just fine when they realize they can stop hating people who have nothing to do with their lives.

    BakerBagel ,

    Their version of America never existed. It’s always been ahit ti be a working class person, regardless of race. LBJ didn’t try to enact his Great Society programs because working America was doing so well.

    TurboDiesel ,
    @TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

    33 year old in Buck’s County, PA. He filmed a 15 minute YouTube video holding his father’s severed head. The Advocate is the only source I’ve seen so far, sorry. But I have seen the YT video and it’s beyond fucked.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    This is my favorite part.

    “Politics in my sports?!” And then they snowflake about this

    feedum_sneedson , to lemmyshitpost in Any takers?

    boobs so yes okay

    toastus , to memes in Important distinction

    We should be fighting religion.

    Haagel ,
    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    I think people missed the humour in this photo looking like a clown Shapiro.

    Flexaris , to programmerhumor in Select all SoCs which can boot mainline linux.

    Is it all of them?

    flambonkscious ,

    I just go by the colour - I don’t like the slightly maroon Qualcomm one.

    It’s like picking politicians but different - with then I go by their haircuts…

    Tolookah ,

    I don’t think the Spartan 6 can, it’s an fpga with no arm, the zynq can, there’s a lot of other arm chips that I assume can run some type of Linux, but the blurry ones are throwing me off

    Edit, top left is a 286 CPU, and the Intel one has an earlier date, so they MIGHT be able to runwalk it, it’ll be not good

    user134450 ,

    this is extra tricky because they did not specify the exact kernel. mainline could be any of the kernels tagged as stable that you can build from linus’ git tree. i know that in the past you could run a mainline linux on intel 368 chips but today you probably can not because official support was dropped a while ago.

    InputZero ,

    Part of me wishes I still had my families old 386 or commodore knock-off. Read some of the terrible short stories I wrote, play tanks. I remember when my Mom’s friend came over with a stack of 51/4 floppies and installed a program that played the Loonie Toons theme song with their logo and Buggs Bunny captioned saying “That’s all folks.” It blew my mind, video (sort of) on a computer, how was that even possible. I wondered how they got it to connect to the cable cause no way a computer could do that. Dang I’m getting old lol.

    Ross_audio ,
    AnarchoSnowPlow ,

    You can run a “soft” (semi-hard?) Processor on a Spartan, you could run Linux on that at least.

    grue ,

    Not only could mainline Linux never run on a 286, it also definitely doesn’t count as an “SoC” to begin with. It needed a separate co-processor just to do floating-point math, let alone to manage all the I/O that a SoC does on-die.

    Tolookah ,

    You guys are the best. I reply in what I think is a bit nerdy way, and I’m outdone.

    cashews_best_nut ,

    It needed a separate co-processor

    Such a great time to be alive. 🥲

    MonkderZweite ,

    I guess the blurry Samsung in the center is an ARM?

    uis ,
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    it’s an fpga with no arm

    You can make arm in fpga. Or more realistically RISC-V.

    AnarchoSnowPlow ,

    With enough grit and time, yes :D

    Edit: ok not mainline, but Linux in some form or another anyway.

    tetris11 , (edited )
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