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shalafi , to mildlyinteresting in my job has medicine that wakes you up if you've fainted

Smelling salts are now a “new” thing. Take me out back like Old Yeller.

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Kind Sir please fetch me the smelling salts I’ve got the vapours. 🪭

Mikina , to linuxmemes in Windows updating just before thesis defense

My favorite windows update was when I was attending an onsite coding competition hosted my Microsoft. We were all in this large meeting hall that looked like a theater, and we spent first 10 minutes or so at the start of the competition just looking at Windows update, with the Microsoft rep apologizing to us, because his pc decided to do the “Forced update restart you cant postpone any more” literally two minutes into the presentation

caseyweederman ,

When your dog food tastes like dog food

BigDiction ,

As a presenter would be mortified.

As an attendee, hilarious.

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

As an attendee, would be somewhat annoyed

As someone on the Internet, hilarious

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

That’s probably the presenter’s fault for not updating it earlier. Keep on top of your updates so they don’t force you to do it at an unfortunate time.

Hegar , to lemmyshitpost in Such a quirky, yet inoffensive art style for my corporate shitpost
@Hegar@kbin.social avatar

In case anyone missed the reference, this is based on a work found painted on the walls of Fransisco Goya's dining room after he died. You'll often hear it called "Saturn Devouring His Son", but the work was never titled or displayed publicly. There's really no good reason to believe that the devourer is Chronos/Saturn, that the devouree is even a child, or that either body is male.

I personally like to think of it as Untitled (Dining Room).

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Wait, I knew what it was normally called but never heard of the context. Did this person depict lots of mythological figures?

Apologies if this is common knowledge, I am incapable of remembering certain things.

Hegar ,
@Hegar@kbin.social avatar

Did this person depict lots of mythological figures?

Nope! It's been a few decades since my art history lectures but my memory is (and wikipedia agrees) that he did a lot of portraits and battle scenes. IIRC his battle paintings inspired Picasso's. His late work is especially dark - madness and horror type stuff. Sinister distorted figures. They're often called The Black Paintings.

if this is common knowledge

Quite the opposite. This painting was used in a slide in my greek mythology class during the lecture about the titans and chronos. Then in an art history class I learned the context, which I feel is much less known.

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

That is very interesting. I’ve also heard of it only as Saturn Devouring His Son. It’s my favorite painting though I must admit that I’ve not read up on it. It just fascinates me. I had no idea. Makes the painting even better.

Hegar ,
@Hegar@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, it's one of my favourites too. So immediately striking. I don't think it would've occurred to me to read up on it - what's to read about? There's just the figures and the act, nothing else. But then you find out that it's somehow even more goth.

Delta_ ,

TIL!

Various interpretations of the meaning of the picture have been offered: the conflict between youth and old age, time as the devourer of all things, the wrath of God and an allegory of the situation in Spain, where the fatherland consumed its children in wars and revolution. There have been explanations rooted in Goya’s relationships with his son, Javier, the only of his six children to survive to adulthood, or with his live-in housekeeper and possible mistress, Leocadia Weiss; the sex of the body being consumed cannot be determined with certainty. If Goya made any notes on the picture, they did not survive, as he never intended the picture for public exhibition.

SpaceNoodle ,

Untitled Dining Room is the name of my first album

sukhmel ,

Untitled (Dining Room)

Little things to inspire appetite 🥰

AnarchistArtificer ,

I agree, the fact that the painting was never titled or displayed publicly adds a lot to the work. It was just in his dining room, alongside other similar paintings, if I recall. That context makes the already unnerving work hit harder. Thanks for sharing this tidbit

FiniteBanjo ,
MBM ,

I’m a big fan of Goya’s (drowning?) dog painting, another of his Black Paintings that nobody knew about before he died

The Dog (Goya)

Hegar ,
@Hegar@kbin.social avatar

Yeah wow that's incredible. That dog looks very alone and scared, I could see how people say drowning. Cresting a hill was my first thought.

byroon ,

There’s really no good reason to believe that the devourer is Chronos/Saturn, that the devouree is even a child, or that either body is male.

There is a good reason to think it’s a child - it looks like one. Just not necessarily the child of the devourer

FlyingSquid , to funny in I can't believe it tastes different
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That is seriously how my mother cooked when I was a kid. The dreaded words before dinner were, “this was an experiment.”

And it was always shit like this. “Well, it called for four cups of sugar, but sugar is bad for you, so I substituted potato flour.”

pBaesse ,

OMG HOhOHOhoHOhoHOoh

wesker , to lemmyshitpost in The Patriarchy
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Is this real? Because wife material.

grue , (edited )

Almost makes it worth visiting Texas.

Almost.

Edit: wat. I apparently misread “Hagerstown” as “Houston” somehow.

Starbuck ,

Why? What’s in Texas? This says Maryland

TexasDrunk ,

I’m in Texas. You can visit me.

bradorsomething ,

Go home, Texas, you’re drunk.

HappycamperNZ ,

what’s in Texas

Maryland, probably.

(Rest of the world)

grue ,

I somehow misread “Hagerstown” as “Houston,” I think.

MossyFeathers ,

I’m pretty sure you might get shot if you tried this in Texas. Some crazy would get mad about how dinosaurs were invented by Satan to mislead people into believing in evolution and therefore wearing a dinosaur costume makes you agents of the devil or something.

Nepenthe ,
@Nepenthe@kbin.melroy.org avatar

In the big cities? Dalls? Austin? Nah. People might look at you weird.
Anywhere else? ...Might have to give some killjoy 15min to an hour to call the cops

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think it’s AI unfortunately.

Either that or just regular photoshop.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

sigh I’ll never meet a sexy, single dino lady.

humorlessrepost ,

I mean there are entire conventions, but you’ll struggle with “hot”.

MossyFeathers ,

If you’re referring to furry conventions, then I’ll chime in and say there are plenty of hot people in the furry community. They just usually aren’t the ones who get mocked on social media for being awkward.

AlligatorBlizzard ,

Also there’s lots of hot people at furry cons, at least the ones that didn’t engineer some really efficient cooling for their suits.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Don’t worry, bro. You’ll find the lusty Argonian maid of your dreams sooner or later! There are plenty of lizards in the desert.

hypnicjerk ,

you mean crosswalks don’t usually end diagonally in the middle of the street?

necromancyr ,

…or Hagerstown.

TexasDrunk ,

I know the Facebook account it’s posted from is a parody account. I cannot say anything about the veracity of the pictures.

TexasDrunk ,

1000007218

For reference.

MossyFeathers ,

I want it to be real, damnit! It’s really funny.

Socsa ,

I did not get hookers from this originally

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

I had a feeling it was a parody tbh

AA5B ,

Don’t rain on our parade. Let it be real

kromem ,

Just means wesker will need to marry an AI.

TotallyNotSpez , to lemmyshitpost in Screw Uber!

I’d book that lad any time as long as he can adapt to hollering “hell yeah sister”.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s okay, it’s the gender-neutral of form of the word ‘brother.’ You know, like ‘dude.’

But I’m also sure he’ll accommodate your simple request as long as you’re not a narc.

TotallyNotSpez ,

Lol, I actually had to google what an eight ball was, but I was already sold at whiskey. So, clearly not a narc. Also not Spez. ^^

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s cool, brother. But you gotta tell him if you’re a cop. That’s the law he’s pretty sure.

brbposting ,

Can confirm.

Source: no lies were told in the 90s

some_guy ,

Now get Hulk Hogan before the racism to join him, brother.

BruceTwarzen ,

We're all brothers on this blessed day

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Speak for yourself.

konalt ,
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

I am all brother on this blessed day

prettybunnys ,

I am all brothers on this blessed day!

Fuck_u_spez_ ,

I have a proposal…

TotallyNotSpez ,

Cool, I’ll get the strapon!

Fuck_u_spez_ ,

Joke’s on you, I’m into that shit.

TotallyNotSpez ,

Can my wife watch?

mstrk , to memes in Nice shoes
CenturionKing OP ,
@CenturionKing@lemmy.world avatar

Best comment 😂

stanka , to aboringdystopia in Get rid of landlords...

Rental income is considered income, and taxed assuming reasonable tax brackets much higher than investment income (That is to say, caiptal-gains. Interest/Dividends are also taxed at the higher income rate)

The cost of maintaining a livable home, property taxes, insurance, property depreciation, and renter interactions eat into the supposed windfall that landlords make.

I’m not saying it doesn’t suck sometimes and that certainly these formulas are out of whack in some situations, but there are no easy answers.

dragna ,

I don’t know where you live but in the US the IRS considers rental income as regular income for tax purposes. So when you fill out your taxes it just goes in your bog standard income section.

Additionally all expenses incurred for certain repairs and maintenance are tax deductible. My house gets similar tax breaks as I work from home, so things like plumbing repair (I guess considered an essential service) and regular maintenance can be deducted (although I’ve never gone over the standard deduction so I never really realize those benefits).

In every imaginable way rental income is better financially than “standard” income…though not morally.

Crashumbc ,

FYI, that’s mostly a myth. Taking “home office” deductions has VERY strict rules. Most people working from home don’t qualify and what can be deducted is very limited in scope.

dragna ,

You’re not wrong, even including what was available it still wasn’t anywhere near enough to make itemized deduction a reasonable option. I mentioned the plumbing mostly because I thought it was funny that it was actually included in the list of valid deductible expenses for maintaining a home office.

qjkxbmwvz ,

the IRS considers rental income as regular income…it just goes in your bog standard income section.

In every imaginable way rental income is better financially than “standard” income

?

FrowingFostek ,

If I’m reading the post correctly.

One seems to speak to the way the IRS views or categorizes this income and the other is what the financial realities are for this mode of income.

But, I’m not OP so IDK I’m just going off how interpreted the post.

dragna ,

Sorry I meant in the sense that the income is treated the same plus the benefits of additional deductions. You don’t typically get additional deductions or reimbursements for a normal commute job (for instance gas, maintenance, licensing, etc) that you might see for say…well my wife is a good example as a veterinarian. She’s fully reimbursed for CE, licensing, and other items required for her job.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Rental income is considered income, and taxed assuming reasonable tax brackets much higher than investment income

Depends on how the income is structured. You can own shares in a REIT that manages properties and count the dividends paid out as investment income.

The cost of maintaining a livable home, property taxes, insurance, property depreciation, and renter interactions eat into the supposed windfall that landlords make.

We had interest rates as low as 2.8% APY within the last three years. States have been lowering property taxes steadily for the last decade, as prices skyrocketed. Depreciation doesn’t lower the land-value, which is where most of the price inflation has occurred since the first big real estate booms of the 90s. And “renter interactions”? I don’t even know what this is attempting to imply. Is cashing the checks costing you money?

Some of the biggest investments hedge funds have made since the COVID crisis have been in residential real estate. This, in a market where The Magnificent Seven stocks have performed 20-30%/year for several years. Someone who works for Warren Buffet clearly sees a windfall in landlord-ism that you’re not seeing.

stanka ,

(In the US) divedends are taxed as ordinary income. REITs are required to disburse their profits to the shareholders as divedends.

Only buy-low, sell high appreciation is taxed as capital-gains.

CarbonatedPastaSauce , to mildlyinteresting in Individually-wrapped bacon slices for sale in a hardware store

Gross. We have to get over this ‘convenience’ packaging of stupid food items in plastic. Just like the peeled fruit in plastic wrap, this is straight up harmful.

Psychodelic ,

Sure, if by “get over” you mean support legislation to heavily regulate the use of plastic packaging. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter what we do, as long as it’s more cost effective to continue to use plastic, companies will.

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

That’s exactly what I mean. The problem obviously won’t solve itself, enforcement will be required.

Psychodelic ,

Hear hear!

n3m37h ,

Rabble rabble rabble!

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Hold on, peeled fruit in plastic? Nobody would be that stup…

Ohhh sorry, yeah

As you were

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nobody would be that stup…

I get the joke but it’s mostly people without the hand strength or dexterity to peel the fruit that get them.

At least that’s the only people ive ever seen or heard of getting them. Most people who willingly eat fresh fruit also like to peel it themselves for that freshness

AlecSadler , to lemmyshitpost in This is what peak performance looks like

I knew a guy in college who had to do this, he had a degenerative eye disease or something that no amount of glasses, hard contacts, or whatever could fix. It seemed like it royally sucked, but he always seemed in good spirits.

Except I vaguely recall he impaled his own leg on a sharp branch while jogging because he couldn’t see it. That would suck.

pineapplelover ,

No surgery could fix that?

RegalPotoo ,
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

I know a guy with what sounds like a similar condition - in his case most of the colour receptive cells in his retinas are fucked, it’s a genetic thing that ment they didn’t form correctly in the first place. Not really anything you can do surgically, it’s not like cataracts or stigmatism where the retina is ok but the light isn’t reaching it correctly.

He wears highly tinted sunglasses cos it turns out that those colour cells are also really heavily involved in adjusting your iris to ensure you get the right amount of light, so his eyes adjust to changes in brightness much slower than normal which can be physically painful if he (eg) turns on the lights in a dark room

gravitas_deficiency ,

Ah, he got the Lorca eyes but took a pass on the whole “I’m from an alternate universe full of psychopaths” bit, gotcha.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah, it does sound like it wood suck.

Sorry.

Cadeillac ,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Wood stuck?

Alk ,

No, some doctors got it out.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I’d just leave that one alone.

ccunix ,

Had project manager at previous job the same. Worked about 3" from his screen. He was the proof that a good project manager is worth their weight in gold though. Guy was absolutely brilliant.

JimmyBigSausage , to assholedesign in 1/3 full brand new deodorant

Shhhh! It’s a secret!

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

ok, I snorted… well played.

anon987 , to lemmyshitpost in oWo

A society’s greatness can only be measured by how they treat their most vulnerable citizens.

pufferfisherpowder ,

You mean the worse they treat them the greater the greatness, right? Like Sparta, right bro?

Son_of_dad ,

People who say this are free to let the homeless sleep on their couch or in their yard, but they won’t.

gmtom ,
TokenBoomer ,

Every time I see this meme, it reminds me of this Monty Python scene.

0ops ,

It reminds me of this album

TokenBoomer ,

Great album, one of the best.

KillingTimeItself ,

every motherfucker ever who thinks they’re the most genius philosopher ever has thought this at some point.

Fun fact, the only way to not participate in society is to be fucking dead

mojofrododojo ,

what in the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Son_of_dad ,

Well would you? You agree they need a place to sleep, so would you let one crash on your couch? And if not, it means you actually want them to sleep on the street, so you’d rather the street and pavement be comfy, so you can feel somehow charitable, that you’ve made it easier for a homeless person to sleep outside, or on someone else’s property, instead of just offering them some of your own space.

mojofrododojo ,

absurdism ergo hoc. I work with local homeless and have helped build tiny houses for the local homeless communities. Our goal is to provide housing so that people can access services critical to breaking the cycle of homelessness. a few weeks on my couch isn’t going to change someone’s life; a few months in a stable community with access to public services - to get them ID, to get them treatment for addiction, to get them job skills and financial aid - these are the things that change a life.

You’re so damned certain you have everything figured out, when you’re simply in the dark… mumbling to yourself, head up your own rectum.

Jimmyeatsausage ,

It’s got to be an absolutely wild experience going through life thinking there is no middle ground between inviting strangers (many of whom are dealing with addiction or untreated mental illness) to sleep with you and your children and putting spikes and bars on all publicly accessible places to make life harder for those suffering the most.

I’m guessing you love factory farming, animal abuse, migrant abuse, and child labor since you eat food?

Son_of_dad ,

I’m a vegetarian and native, don’t lecture me on your people’s atrocities and put them on me, colonizer.

Jimmyeatsausage ,

I am just applying your own logic to you. You eat vegetables that were almost certainly picked by underpaid Central Americans and wear clothes that were fabricated in sweat shops made from fabrics harvested by children. If you’re living on a reservation funded by a casino, you’re likely benefiting from the drug trade or human trafficking as well. I’m as responsible for colonization as you are for the tribes that decided to help with the colonization for short-term gain. I acknowledge the atrocities of my ancestors - my family was also on the wrong side of the civil war. I also acknowledge that, despite having 1st nation’s heritage, I don’t present as native so I enjoy all the continuing privilege of whiteness. We ALL need to acknowledge that we can’t help but participate in systemic injustice, even if we’re fighting against it.

Kase ,

I mean, I sure as hell wouldn’t do what’s shown in the photo. If I owned property lol ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

uis ,

Butwhatabout foreigners? No, seriously, what about foreigners? And stateless.

grue , to games in Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.

They didn’t need updates because they gave you the whole game, (usually) more-or-less bug-free, the first time!

NielsBohron ,
@NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

That’s some survivorship bias shit right here. I can’t tell you how many shitty, buggy games I played in the days of early console and PC gaming. Even games that were revolutionary and objectively good games sometimes had game-breaking bugs, but often it was harder to find them without the internet.

Plus, don’t you remember expansion packs? That was the original form of DLC.

Don_alForno ,

There are different kind of DLC, and the kind that’s similar to actual expansion packs is usually not criticized (or not by most).

noobnarski ,

Yeah, if a DLC isnt just content taken out of the main game (in a way that makes the main game worse) and is reasonably priced for the amount of content it contains, then it is a good way for developers to get paid for continuing development of a game after launch when it was already finished at launch.

The Witcher 3 DLCs for example were pretty good.

ricdeh ,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Oh man, while I was reading the first part of your comment I was thinking of the Witcher 3 DLCs the whole time, I’m so glad that you mentioned them at the end there!

Empricorn ,

THANK you. Fuck the upvotes, that person is objectively wrong. Maybe they just didn’t play that many games during the early PC/console era?

TankovayaDiviziya OP ,

Expansion packs were more complete experience than DLCs sold piece by piece.

ampersandrew ,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see how the amount of “completeness” can even be measured. Is it really so much worse that you can buy extra fighters for the Street Fighter 6 that you already own rather than buying Super, Turbo, and then Super Turbo at full price every time? Or that you can choose to buy just the stuff you want for Cities: Skylines for half the price instead of paying twice as much to get stuff that don’t care about along with it? Plus, expansions like Phantom Liberty and Shadow of the Erdtree are bigger than most entire video games from the 90s.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Console:

Except for when they did not, which was actually somewhat common.

But it also became quickly known, respectively stores stopped stocking buggy games. So in return, larger publishers tried their utmost to ensure that games could not have bigger bugs remaining on launch (Nintendo Seal of Excellence for example was one such certification).

But make no mistake, tons of games you fondly remember from your childhood were bugged to hell and back. You just didn’t notice, and the bigger CTDs and stuff did not exist as much, yes.

PC:

It was just flat-out worse back then. But we also thought about it the reverse way: It wasn’t “Oh this doesn’t work on my specific configuration, wtf?!” but “Oh damn I forgot I need a specific VESA card for this, not just any. Gonna take this to my friend who has that card to play it.”.

Strobelt ,

Even the concept of taking your game to a friend to play it is basically impossible today

ampersandrew ,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

How do you figure?

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Counterpoint: budget re-releases of games (e.g. ‘Platinum’ on PlayStation) were often an opportunity to fix bugs, or sometimes even add new features. A few examples:

  • Space Invaders 1500 was a re-release of Space Invaders 2000, with a few new game modes.
  • Spyro: Year of the Dragon’s ‘Greatest Hits’ release added a bunch of music that was missing in the original release.
  • Ridge Racer Type 4 came with a disc containing an updated version of the first Ridge Racer, which ran at 60fps.
  • Super Mario 64’s ‘Shindou Edition’ added rumble pak support, as well as fixing a whole bunch of bugs (famously, the backwards long jump).

Those are just off the top of my head. I’m certain there are more re-releases that represent the true ‘final’ version of a game.

otp ,

That’s the exception rather than the rule. If you have the opportunity to make some changes in a new batch, why not take it?

Generally, when the game was released, it had to be done. If there were any major bugs, then people would be returning their copies and probably not buying an updated release. It’d also hurt the reputation of the developer, the publisher, and even the console’s company if it was too prevalent of a problem.

I don’t think anybody I knew ever got an update to a console game without just happening to buy v1.2 or something. There were updated rereleases, but aside from PC gaming, I don’t think most console gamers back then ever thought “I hope they fix this bug with an update”.

Psaldorn , to gaming in Classic Microsoft
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

Genuine question: why does bedrock exist? What does it bring? Why is there the choice between java, bedrock and “Minecraft for windows”?

How do you fuck up this badly?

I tried using the launcher to move a java install from C: to another drive and it just points there and doesn’t do anything? Steam had this stuff figured years ago

Opisek ,

Minecraft rewritten for better performance with platform interoperability in mind and so on. Essentially what could’ve or should’ve been a replacement to Minecraft if done right. It was not done right. Quite the opposite.

Mango ,

In what world is c++ better for cross platform than Java?

Xatolos ,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

In a world with consoles. Java needs a JVM, and those aren’t typical with things like the Switch (2 soon), PS5, and Xbox Series (half the alphabet).

Mango ,

Oh ok that’s fair enough. I forget those exist sometimes.

EatATaco ,

You forget consoles exist?

Xatolos ,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

I think they meant JVMs.

Mango ,

Yeah, except retro consoles.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

C++ is generally more performant than Java.

…vercel.app/java-vs-cpp

Mango ,

What’s that got to do with making things cross platform? Java programs only need to run in a Java runtime environment of which there’s one for basically everything. If you make something that runs in a JRE, it’ll be able to run on any device with a JRE that’s up to date for it.

kewjo ,

given how many targets are supported by llvm there’s really little difference in cross platform support asides from building artifacts for the specific target platform. wrapping package delivery in a package manager removes the additional complexity to the end user.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

Minecraft Java runs like dog shit. Making a faster port of it was worth it. They just botched it because Microsoft got its hands on it.

Mango ,

Oh yeah that totally explains why it’s always been perfectly fine for me as long as I’m not looking at a giant wall of those shelves that display their contents from whatever modpack that was.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

Bedrock routinely outperforms java.

piped.video/watch?v=qLjOIulsNcM

piped.video/watch?v=Z4GrbD2MA5o

piped.video/watch?v=p_mCekWWW_8

Just because you’re perfectly fine doesn’t mean all other machines are.

Mango ,

So? What’s that got to do with making it cross platform?

I could ask what makes food hot and you would come in here telling me your refrigerator brand uses less electricity.

Olgratin_Magmatoe , (edited )

I wasn’t strictly talking about cross platform. I was talking about performance, which is tangential to the cross platform thing.

If you’re planning on making a game cross platform, you should choose a language that performs well for gaming on all platforms. Java ain’t that. Which answers your question:

In what world is c++ better for cross platform than Java?

C++ is better for this application.

supersquirrel ,

Good thing we have Minetest and Vintage Story!

fhqwgads ,

Because Bedrock runs on phones, tablets, consoles, and a host of other random crap, and does so relatively well. Because of that the install base and playtime especially among younger players is actually massively skewed toward Bedrock being the more used. Add to that rumors that the Java codebase at least was a terrible mess, and the performance issues Java edition still has to this day and it’s no wonder they wanted to do a full rewrite, especially after having to make things like the console editions and even one for the 3DS.

The windows launcher is annoying though.

kadu ,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

There’s also the fact that Bedrock patches bugs that the Java community freaks out about patching. Several chunk update glitches and undesirable redstone behavior are exploited by the Java players, and they go nuts over the idea of fixing the issues. Bedrock, being a new codebase, obviously didn’t port over old crusty bugs and therefore doesn’t have to carry over those expectations.

fhqwgads ,

To be fair I’d call it a wash. Bedrock fixes a lot of weird stuff like quasi connectivity and being able to push things like chests with pistons but also introduces it’s own bugs like weird timing things and randomly taking fall damage. There’s also weird differences like being able to do things with cauldrons or just like minor texture differences that they are slowly bringing into sync.

Psaldorn ,
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the info + @kadu & @Opisek

UnityDevice ,

Because Bedrock runs on phones, tablets, consoles, and a host of other random crap

And it also removes Linux support. Typical Microsoft.

accideath ,

Linux and mac and any other x86 compatible platform that runs java…

MonkderDritte ,

Bedrock not Java.

accideath ,

Yes exactly. Java runs on Windows, macOS, Linux and any x86 compatible operating system that supports the Java runtime environment. Minecraft bedrock removes support for all of those but Windows.

Jakeroxs ,

And adds support for Playstation, Xbox, Switch, Android, iOS…

accideath ,

They all had minecraft before bedrock was a thing yet. That legacy minecraft without crossplay just got replaced by bedrock.

fhqwgads ,

To be fair there’s a Linux version of the bedrock server. But yeah not having it on the steam deck is pretty annoying.

0ops ,

Go into desktop mode, there’s a bedrock launcher in the package manager store thing, I forgot the names of both of those things, but search “Minecraft” and you should find it. Anyway, it basically loads the Android version of the game. It works pretty well. I play bedrock because everyone I play with is on Xbox

nrezcm ,

Fairly certain I’ve had both versions working on our steam deck. It’s pretty straight forward like you’re saying.

derpgon ,

Also swapped performance issues with more bugs that were there years ago and still persist because they are almost impossible to fix.

In the end, we all know it was done either because they wanted to shove microtransactions down our throat and/or had some kind of deal to maintain the Java edition without microtransactions.

Or, maybe, just maybe, they though “it’s just a block game, what could be so hard to rewrite it?” and absolutely failed what a single person got right almost immediately back in the day (like not falling through the floor all the time).

jyte ,

rumors

You can remove that word, rly.

endhits ,

Java is a hilariously bad platform for games.

kaffiene ,

No it isn’t

NiPfi ,

What makes you say that? I’m genuinely curious

Honytawk ,

Java is (or at least used to be) one of the first languages new programmers started with.

Making it very accessible to create new mods.

NiPfi ,

I haven’t modded as of yet but I started off with Java and am now a C# Dev and the transition wasn’t too hard since most of the same principles apply to both languages. Unity games, that are often written in C# to me are the most moddable ones, especially considering that there’s a ecosystem for Unity mods out of the box

kaffiene ,

Minecraft. Runescape. Mindustry. Slay the Spire. Project Zomboid. Doodle Jump. Shattered Pixel Dungeon. Delver. Lots of mobile games. Also It’s rediculous to say Java is inappropriate for games when C# is used for games via Unity (unity is the value proposition there - c# is very similar to Java)

joe_cool ,

Only if you’re incompetent. Otherwise just not optimal.

Starsector, Rise to Ruins and Project Zomboid run well and are made in Java for example. It’s harder to pull off but it can be done. (still needs native libraries though)

RandomVideos ,

Is there even a choice? You now get both games when you buy one(and you get the other game for free if you already own one) and you can play on bedrock on java servers with geysermc

Psaldorn ,
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I accidentally bought Minecraft for windows for someone when I wanted java… so that was fun.

The launcher just says “here are the options” it doesn’t say why you might want to choose one over another. Ive played since day 0 so I’ve always gone with java.

Just felt like if bedrock was meant to replace java they should have just done it and dealt with it instead of having so many choices.

vox ,
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Minecraft for windows is the old name for bedrock.
it was based on the same MCPE codebase

Crashumbc ,

Honestly? Most large companies are more like high school. It’s all, friend groups, people rubbing each other’s backs, and in-fighting between departments.

A lot of VERY LARGE decisions get made for the stupidest reason.

Passerby6497 , to lemmyshitpost in Derps of Tiktok

Nirvana brand t-shirts.

zerog_bandit ,

Kurt died for this

Cowbee , (edited )
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Lemme just head on over to the Nirvana store to pick up a couple of tees, lol

intensely_human ,

We can have some more. Branding is a whore.

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