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weker01 , to programmer_humor in Explaining software development methods by flying to Mars

This is waterfall method propaganda! It never works out this smoothly. They probably forgot important requirements like: the astronauts need to be alive on Mars.

CanadaPlus ,

This is what I came to the comment section for.

If like me you’re not a pro, it seems to literally just mean linear phases, so yeah, any nonlinearity would cause problems.

criss_cross ,

Waterfall is missing the part where the customer realizes they didn’t actually want to go to Mars they just wanted to view it out of a telescope.

But now they can only travel to Mars and the telescope is out of the budget because you spent so much money on the rocket

Bezier , (edited )
@Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

2 years later: It’s now up to the lawyers to figure out if it’s the rocket that doesn’t meet agreed requirements or if it’s on the customer for not giving proper requirements.

sheogorath ,

I hate how true this is. Not even 2 years later for my case.

psud ,

Actual real world right now giant rockets include

  • One that is being built under waterfall methodology. It has been being built for several years. That’s the Blue Origin New Glen heavy lift reusable rocket
  • One that is being developed under an agile methodology, it flew as a subscale lander to test their engine and flight control, it has flown four full test flights, improving on each. That’s SpaceX’s Starship

We are yet to see either launch a payload to orbit

oo1 ,

How was appollo programme planned?

maynarkh ,

It was outsourced to the guy who ran Nazi concentration camps to build ballistic missiles to bomb London with.

sheogorath ,

All the projects that have shittier outcomes in my experience is always waterfall. This is mainly because the stakeholders usually have this bright idea to be added in the middle of development that’s really need to be added at all costs and then got angry when the timeline got pushed because of their fucking request breaking a lot of shit.

At least scrum has a lead time of around 2 weeks so that when someone has a idea we can tell them we’ll add it to the backlog and hope they forgot about it during the next sprint planning.

balp ,

I’m sure, doth the Astrumants should survive the landing, there should be a way to return, and they need a shitter as part of the missed requirements. As it’s a waterfall, that will come in the second, third, and fourth trips.

Blackmist ,

Or the funders get bored of waiting after ten years of “no Mars yet” and cancel the project, leaving you with a half finished rocket.

Thiakil , to programmer_humor in It's easier to remember the IPs of good DNSes, too.

Fire bad, change scary

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Apes together weak

humorlessrepost ,

Tree pretty

Sanctus , to asklemmy in What's something you want to stop doing but can't actually stop?
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Owning a car. I want to walk in a city made for people. I can’t afford to move.

NataliePortland ,
@NataliePortland@lemmy.ca avatar

I live in a major city but like I’m in a bad neighborhood so there’s only one grocery store within 5 miles. It makes no sense. A food desert in a major city so that I’m forced to drive just to like get screws from a hardware store or toilet paper or something

azimir ,

Our US city (pop 180k, metro 600k) is just about to lose the last downtown grocery store.

Generations of city councils have allowed (or encouraged!) the demolition of all housing in the city core to replace it with parking lots.

There’s almost no one left downtown so the city itself is dying. It’s just kind of rotting away. There’s currently at least some effort to reverse the trend, but the vice grip that car oriented everything has on people is terrifying to politicians.

weeeeum ,

Same. My work is only a mile away but there are hardly any sidewalks and I often have to walk next to roads going like 40 mph. Plus all of the intersections and crosswalks are catered for car travel, meaning there has to be absolutely zero cars to give you the signal to walk. Crossing a single crosswalk “legally” takes like 5 or 10 mins of waiting.

In Amsterdam the crosswalks are catered for pedestrians and you typically only need to wait 15-30 seconds as they don’t mind stopping a few cars.

tiramichu , to asklemmy in What's the most seeming trivial thing you'll turn down a GF or BF for?

Littering.

When someone carelessly throws their trash on the ground, that says a huge amount about their respect for other people, their feelings about the environment, and even their views on social equality.

It’s a tiny thing, but an immediate dealbreaker.

People who throw their trash on the ground are the same people who yell and get mad at minimum-wage staff, while those staff hold back tears. They are the people who take more food at a buffet restaurant than they could ever even eat. They are the people who think the world and everyone in it owes them whatever they want, but without ever giving anything back.

I bet we all know a person whose car looks like a scary biohazard of old drive-through cups they haven’t cleaned yet, but I’d much rather date that person than someone who throws it all out the window.

cheesymoonshadow ,
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

I think whether or not they litter and whether or not they return the shopping cart are two good ways to judge someone’s character.

dogsnest , to showerthoughts in If one conjoined twin commits a murder without the consent of their twin, will both have to go to prison or nobody?
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

It’ll be a split decision.

BearOfaTime ,

Made me chuckle… And people are sleeping here, dammit!

scytale , to asklemmy in Why is Lemmy obsessed with the word "enshittification"?

Because most people on lemmy are here because of it.

alilbee , to showerthoughts in Almost every problem in the world would be dealt with meaningfully if we outlawed billionaires.

I’m not sure that I agree. While I would support something like outlaw ing billionaires or at the very least, a tax bracket that claws back significant chunks of what they are draining from society, there are vast nuances to these issues beyond “the billionaires want it that way.” When you say “everything from … can all be rendered down”, I think it’s pretty important to recognize how much detail and nuance is lost in that rendering down.

Billionaires and the accumulation of wealth are just stand ins for the accumulation of power in a capitalistic society. When power is removed, it creates a vacuum. Who fills it? In the ideal, I know most of us would say “the people” but this is an insanely complex balancing beam to maintain without some group of assholes finding a new, non-capital way to extract and centralize that power.

None of this is to say that eliminating the notion of a billionaire is a bad idea. I’m with you all that the very idea of a billionaire is heinous and impossible without vast exploitation. I just do not think that issue being solved would be even close to some panacea for all of the world’s problems. There would just be twists in the existing problems and fun new ones.

Jochem ,

Exactly. Don’t hate the players, hate the game. We are too focused on finding a scape goat to see the inherit system is the problem.

alilbee ,

Hate both, where it’s appropriate. Some of these players perpetuate the game that we all hate. Elon Musk is a player who has become part of the structure of the game, fighting regulations and damaging democracy for the sake of his own capitalistic endeavors. Someone mentioned below that Dolly Parton could be a billionaire. Not gonna hate on Dolly Parton who I assume did not come by her wealth through being an asshole, but more just being successful and our current “game” rewarding her with more than she would have in a better society. I would tax the absolute fuck out of her though.

melpomenesclevage ,

you know what, give each one the chance for a nice life. dolly wants a recording studio and school and whatever at her ranch? wants to run a theme park? cool, I can’t imagine her community saying no.

fuckerberg wants to run a cringe mma gym under his apartment?maybe contribute a few lines to vlc or something every year (with extra review)? sure. no more than anyone should have.

shitty Jeff wants to be an aging beach himbo, maybe help people train at an outdoor gym? be my guest.

but they won’t. not until you already have a gun in their mouths, and at that point, its less effort to just kill them.

alilbee ,

We’re looking at two extreme ends of the pole here. Zuck, Bezos, Musk are the shittiest public billionaires. There are also more secretive ones who are arguably even more destructive. These people have absolutely justified their own downfall, if it ever comes to pass. On the other side, Dolly doesn’t even technically count on this list because she has given enough away to not be a billionaire. Those are the easy cases where almost every reasonable person agrees on the “right” thing to do.

Now, we have to remember that there are people who exist at every little increment along that scale of giving back to general shittiness for the global population. Focusing on the billionaires themselves and their lifestyles or whatever is not the answer. We need to focus on making effective tax brackets, effective regulations on the avenues billionaires generally target for power (political institutions, media companies, etc), and effective spending of the increased income from those new taxes to help raise the lower class to a more equitable position. That’s a socdem perspective though, because I do not foresee capitalism collapsing in my lifetime and I like to be pragmatic.

melpomenesclevage ,

doesn’t technically count

well I’m saying billionaires so we absolutely don’t catch any splash damage.

what are we even arguing about?

alilbee ,

Not sure anybody is really arguing in this entire thread. Just discussion of edge cases and the gray areas on an interesting shower thought.

melpomenesclevage ,

valid. parton is an edge case, an extreme outlier, or she would be if she counted. which she doesn’t.

so I feel like its a pretty good validation of the metric.

njm1314 ,

The player are the ones writing the rules of the game. They’re the ones bribing the refs.

melpomenesclevage ,

I think theres enough bitterness and hate in my heart for both. I’ve got too many fucking scars I never needed to have, watched too many people die for no Fucking reason.

ininewcrow OP , (edited )
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t agree with that argument.

You’re right from the point of view that removing those with immense power from their billionaire wealth will be replaced by someone or another group. It’s our natural human condition to always want to be in control and there will always be those among us that will want more power and more control than others.

Removing the ability of any one person accumulating enormous amounts of wealth just levels the playing field. If those with a higher need to want more power don’t have the ability to control an entire sector, an entire region, an entire community or even an entire nation than others will have the ability to challenge them and regulate their power and control.

As it is now, when we allow individuals to gain enormous amounts of power, no one has the ability to challenge them. When those with enormous power decide to affect governments, industries, society or finance, there is very little any one can do to challenge them. Sure we can band together and take billionaires to court … but it comes down to how much money you have … the ability to challenge power means you need money and whoever has the most money has the most power. It isn’t a justice system that treats everyone fairly, it’s a legal system that favors those with the most money.

Outlawing billionaires won’t create a utopia, it won’t remove our conflicts we have with each other. What it would do is level the playing field and distribute power among many other people who would all challenge one another as to what they can or can’t do. It would create a more democratic system where power would be spread to more people.

Once we create that distribution of power, we could then spend our energies solving the problems we have with each other and our world, rather than in spending all our time trying to defend finances.

As it is now, democratic power is impossible because power is only centered on those who have the most money.

alilbee ,

My argument would be that by eliminating the means of wealth being an avenue to power, it will merely shift to the government that is enforcing those rules. Those same shitty people will infiltrate that government and use it to inflate themselves while oppressing others. There was no utopian society prior to capitalism and fiat currency, and there won’t be one after.

To be clear, I’m not arguing that this is an impossible problem to solve. I just do not think eliminating the notion of a billionaire is the cure for all of your listed ills. I agree with you that it would absolutely have impacts on all of them, but we would still wake up to world hunger, climate change, etc.

Each of your listed issues is a complex, multi-faceted problem. We cannot boil down that nuance just so we can point to our favorite enemy, deserving as they might be. Fight them too, but don’t lose sight of the bigger picture.

ininewcrow OP ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s an alternative that has never been attempted in human history and yet everyone is afraid of the notion of ‘Limiting Wealth’.

I am not arguing from the point of view of utopian socialism or a redistribution of wealth … rather, I’m saying that everything in our capitalistic world more or less stays the same way. The only difference is that no one person is allowed to gain a certain level of wealth. Everyone is still free to be as ruthless and capitalistic as they please but their ambitions are given an upper ceiling … for example $100 million of total wealth. All excess wealth beyond that is taxed completely.

Isn’t $100 million for one individual more than enough? What is the sense in accumulating more than that other than a pathological desire to want to gather something that you don’t need. Even worse is the thought that as one accumulates more wealth than they can possibly require means that they have to siphon it from others around them. Uncontrolled, unlimited and runaway growth at all costs is medically known as a cancer. Billionaires are literally cancerous growths on civilization that are slowly killing the entire organism.

Creating a system of ‘Limited Wealth’ wouldn’t affect the majority of everyone … it would only affect a handful of individuals … yet it would benefit all of society.

alilbee ,

Can you please point out where I said anything against almost anything you said here? Are you here to have a discussion about your shower thought or just grandstand your political opinion to a group that by large already shares it? Thank you for starting the thread, but not sure I’m going to reply to any additional messages because I’m not sure that you’re actually reading any of mine.

Shardikprime ,

Never been tried lol

Yondoza ,

I think you two are speaking about different steps in this hypothetical transition. You are talking about the long term goal, the other person was talking about the transition from now to the long term scenario. There is very real danger that the power vacuum left by the x-billionaires could be gobbled up by a small group of people. This cannot be dismissed even if we all agree on the end goal.

Secondary critique, set the wealth cap in relation to some other moving metric. I think a multiple of minimum wage would be great, give incentive for the wealthy to increase minimum wage to achieve a higher cap.

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

I love this take, but sorry it goes against the hate billionaire circlejerk.

Resonosity ,

The billionaire class really flourished after Reagan eased taxes on the rich in the 80s. We need to go back to a time before him, but idk if that’s possible. Genie might be out of the bottle

INHALE_VEGETABLES , to asklemmy in Does anyone else notice an uptick of extreme troll accounts?

Memba reddit comments circa 2016 election? I memba.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Oh me too! I ‘memba!

originalfrozenbanana ,

No one is paying troll farms to go comment on lemmy though

HubertManne ,

im not on lemmy but I see regular buy drugs here, how to change your flight booking (no idea how that scam whatever it is works), or for some reason random keyboard characters like a person randomly banged on the homerow keys. may not be paid but apparently someone thinks the fediverse is worth crapping up.

originalfrozenbanana ,

Fair enough, I have also seen that crap

Ensign_Crab ,

No one is paying troll farms to go comment on lemmy though

Could you tell that to the c/politics commenters who seem to think russian shills lurk behind every rock?

originalfrozenbanana ,

I don’t really think political spending is going towards Lemmy trolls, much less like…national propaganda spending. Shitty advertising bots maybe.

Syn_Attck ,

There are 2 million monthly active Lemmy users. That’s a vast untapped market of grassroots users many who likely aren’t on many other platforms, due to the nature of Lemmy.

The first state actor to get in on the ground floor and shape the collective opinion of lemmings as a whole will influence the future outlook of every user of the fediverse. Especially young people. Majority opinion, majority rule.

I believe we can see this taking place on instances like .world and hexbear, but I’m sure it’s happening in a semi-automated fashion across most instances.

originalfrozenbanana ,

That’s total monthly users, not active. MAU is about 30-40k

Syn_Attck ,

Thanks for the clarification. Even easier to sink a claw in then. Trajectories don’t show growth slowing down, they show it accelerating.

davel ,
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Ensign_Crab ,

I don’t really think political spending is going towards Lemmy trolls

Nor do I. I don’t think lemmy is large enough for such spending to have enough return on investment to make it worthwhile. But it’s convenient to dismiss deviations from centrist orthodoxy as the output of shills, and so it happens.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Oh i doubt that. According to a few people I’ve spoken with i’m a paid troll.

That aside it’s good to be suspicious that any reasonably populated online space has is share of astrotrurfers. Hell, remember snowdens revelations shows federal agents had fuggen World of Warcraft and xbox live accounts-warcraft-and-xbox-live-gamers.html

daltotron ,

i’m a paid troll.

Wait, you guys are getting paid?

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I fuckin wish; I’d be able to quit my dead-end.

INHALE_VEGETABLES ,

We do it for love

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

So the record is correct here?

Omega_Haxors ,

It’s more like the far right is bored and doesn’t have anything better to do than troll on the internet.

disguy_ovahea ,

It’s already getting like that over there. That’s why I’m here now. The last straw was a “Reddit Recommendation” that I join r/InternationalNews. I took a look around, and it was a hotbed of anti-Israel and anti-America content. There was the video of the university detonation from January 20th, posted that day and pinned to the top. When I commented on the date and provided the source, I was downvoted to oblivion, and eventually banned.

The sub was #7 under recommended news subreddits.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Recommended by who though? Spez, that’s who. Race-baiting works to increase “engagement” e.g. clicks and comments, thus it continues.

disguy_ovahea ,

fuck u/spez

MotoAsh ,

Being anti-Israel is based.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The government, not the citizens, as per usual.

MotoAsh ,

Yep, Israel is not Jews, and Jews are not Israel.

Aceticon ,

Beyond that even: not all Israelis share the way of thinking of the Government of Israel.

Plenty of decent people even in a country which has for decades been heavy in nationalism, delusions of inherent racial superiority and generally Zionist indoctrination.

They’re probably the minority rather than the majority though.

MotoAsh ,

I also do not view Israel as Israelis, or Israelis as Israel. Just like most of the US hates BOTH Biden and Trump, yet those are our options.

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Plenty of decent people

Incorrect. They’re settlers participating in the genocidal occupation of land that belongs to a sovereign people. This makes it impossible for them to be ‘decent’. There are no ‘civilians’ among Israel’s number.

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

…The citizens are participants in the settler-colonial project that is Palestine’s Occupation. They deserve the same vitriol until they defect or otherwise become a non-issue to Palestinian sovereignty-- though MotoAsh is correct, Judaism is not Zionism. Judaism is merely another Abrahamic religion; Zionism is an ideology of occupation, colonialism, and genocide.

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

The working class of every country has their respective 1%ers that need to be dealt with. Non violently, through electoral reform preferably.

Fuck first past the post voting. Intentionally limiting the number of viable options to pick from is NOT democracy.

brain_in_a_box ,

Non violently, through electoral reform preferably.

Lol. How are you going to do that? Vote for it?

Omega_Haxors ,

Nah yes their citizens too. Have you seen the video of them literally jumping clapping and cheering the destruction of people’s homes?

sudo ,

Bibi is basically a centrist in Israel so I dont think that holds up. eg the humanitarian aid at some border crossings are being picketed by Israeli chuds. Sure there are some good Israelis but they aren’t the norm.

Sprawlie ,

Proving op point

MotoAsh ,

I’m sorry, are you FOR regimes that openly commit genocides? Grow the fuck up or pull the mask off.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

You’re not going to have much of a better time here if you like Israel and aren’t critical of the US. Lemmy is full of socialists lol

disguy_ovahea ,

I’m educated enough on the history of the history of the conflict to know nothing about it is simple to resolve. The only strong opinions I have are Netanyahu =/= Israel and Hamas =/= Palestine, and hatred for an entire group of people is racist and ignorant.

The government’s job is to represent me. As a US citizen, it’s my job to criticize them when they don’t. I owe them no loyalty. They owe me representation.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

You should look a little deeper into the history of modern Israel and Zionism. It’s always been a colonial project that necessitates genocide of the local population. I’m not going to get further into it here as it’s not really the place for this and people have already done the work. If you haven’t seen shaun’s video id recommend at least giving it a watch. I’ll leave the iron wall as well. It’s a short essay from one of the founders of Zionism. His views were quite explicit and highly influential at the time and his legacy is obvious in modern Israel. And lastly The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine. It’s a good book that plainly lays out the history of the Zionist colonial project from 1917-2017. I’m only halfway through it but it’s worth your time. Or just watch the video, it’s cites both the essay and book (among other things) and ties it all together very well.

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

“cOmPlExItY!1!1111!”https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/a2c67049-19d2-48a9-80af-5b979c8daa34.pnghttps://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/07bc5ef7-1db4-4d14-8609-ef4019de0407.png

There’s nothing fucking complex about what needs be done with settler-colonial genociders and their collaborating swine; and if you think there is, you might be a fuckin settler

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

The government’s job is to represent me.

If you work for a living like the vast majority of us do, it isn’t the government’s job to represent you, and it never was. The US was born of a bourgeois revolution, and the Founding Fathers formed a bourgeois democracy, which was never meant to represent the working class, and never has. Princeton University Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

OccamsTeapot ,

I think r/InternationalNews was mainly created as a place to discuss issues free from the rampant Zionism of r/WorldNews.

Happy to have people on Lemmy but I have to say, Lemmy as a whole seems way more anti-Israel than reddit right now. Although to be fair outside of r/WorldNews and a few other places, the general mood does seem to be shifting away from Israel pretty hard.

For me this is nice to see, because fuck Israel right to hell, but you’ll certainly see the same type of content here. I like that if people don’t like it they can make their own community or even an instance, and also that people are generally more free to disagree here (partially due to lax moderation I guess). You should have never been banned for that comment by the sound of it, absolutely stupid.

RoseTintedGlasses ,
@RoseTintedGlasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

anti-Israel and anti-America content is cool actually

disguy_ovahea ,

So are you racist or a nationalist? There’s a difference between criticizing Netanyahu and Biden, and entire nations of people.

RoseTintedGlasses , (edited )
@RoseTintedGlasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

criticising Israel’s genocide of palestinians and consistent settlement of palestinian land going back 75 years and the American government unconditionally supporting them to do this for the last few decades regardless of political party isnt racist actually. I’m assuming you don’t think that just because I criticise the actions of the Russian government that makes me a white supremacist who hates all russian people.

edit: im getting downvoted for saying genocide is bad and countries that commit genocide are bad lmao

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

edit: im getting downvoted for saying genocide is bad and countries that commit genocide are bad lmao

It’s because redditoids are usually genocidal anglos from either an overt FIVE-EYES nation, or a vassal to a FIVE-EYES nation that desperately wants to be in the club. As one of those redditoids above mentioned, rather ironically I might add, “those with skewed moral cores don’t like being reminded of it by the upright”.

sudo ,

Vassal isnt the right word. Israel notoriously doesnt take orders from the US. Also I’m pretty sure they have a like a visitor pass to 5-eyes.

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Vassal isnt the right word.

You’re not wrong, but calling what Amerika and Israel have an “ineffectually-dominated sugar baby relationship” deeply trivializes what the occupiers are doing to Palestine. As it is, I have no reason to believe Biden/the DNC don’t tacitly cosign what Israel’s doing, from how Biden just admonishes Bibi then sends them millions upon millions more dollars in materiel every month.

sudo ,

I think “psychotic 1800s style colonial project we inherited from the Brits” is better but also too verbose.

Theres a reason BDS just points to Apartheid South Africa. (and Rhodesia)

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Scratch a liberal and a fascist downvotes.

Omega_Haxors ,

Can we start treating the bullshit line of “I don’t hate the people I hate the government” for what it is? This is the 40th time in a row it’s been used by someone who absolutely does conflate a government and its people.

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Not a single peckerwood that’s ever fixed their face to say “neither Washington nor Beijing” has Ever taken the former to task

brain_in_a_box ,

Lol, as if America and Israel were ok before Netanyahu and Biden

TheFriar ,

I mean, Israel hate is a relatively common position these days.

Of course there are less than intelligent people that think “anti Israel…okay, so fuck the Jews!” Like, no. Fuck those people. And in a social media environment, nuance isn’t allowed. If it sounds like maybe you might be possibly on “the other side” of a popular issue, fuck you there is no room for understanding. It’s a huge problem. I’ve noticed more conversations on lemmy that don’t fall into that trap as easily. But, that does seem to be changing somewhat.

It’s not entirely social media, that’s just people. But I do firmly believe social media has made this problem exponentially worse.

I mean, it seems like you and I would disagree on the Israel/palestine issue. But we’re here discussing the discussion surrounding it. On Reddit, that literally never happened to me.

disguy_ovahea ,

It doesn’t matter if it’s popular. It’s still racist or nationalist. Just like people who say “fuck Palestinians,” you’re labeling an entire nation or group for the actions of their leader(s).

As an American, am I Biden or Trump? No. I’m an American. I should not be held accountable for the actions of the leader of my nation, even more so if I voted against them.

Netanyahu won his last election with 64% of the popular vote, and is currently polling at 15% popularity with the Israelis.

Hamas won the last election with 44.45% of the popular vote (similar to Trump, they won without popular majority).

I’m just saying words matter. “Fuck Israel” means all Israelis. I think you may just mean “fuck Benjamin Netanyahu.” In that, you’d likely have support of most of the world.

TheFriar , (edited )

Eh. It’s actually different. The popular position is that Israel the state is committing genocide. That’s not he same thing as saying “fuck Palestinians.” Because people aren’t saying “fuck Israelis.” They’re saying fuck Israel for what they’re doing.

You seem to be implying the nimrods who, as I explained earlier, lack the concept of nuance and take anti-israel positions to the illogical extreme of just becoming antisemitic. It’s the same type of people who were assaulting anyone of Asian descent during Covid. You can’t lump everyone who was being careful not to get sick in with the people who were pushing old Asian women down the subway stairs.

“Fuck Israel” means all Israelis

What. No. It absolutely does not. That’s you being overly sensitive and basically misunderstanding a message. If I say “fuck the US” in the context of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, that doesn’t mean “fuck everyone from the US.” Thats such an illogical conclusion to come to.

Also, I don’t know where you got your numbers, I can only find these figures about Netanyahu’s approval ratings in Israel:

According to a survey of more than 700 people carried out by the Israel Democracy Institute this month, 57 percent of the public rates Netanyahu’s performance as “poor or very poor,” while only 28% believe it is “good or excellent.” 14% assess his performance as “so-so.”

And this:

On both questions, Israelis agree with Netanyahu: A poll last month by the Israel Democracy Institute found that nearly two-thirds of Israelis say Israel should “expand its military operations into Rafah.” A separate February poll by IDI found, by the same token, that 55% of Israelis oppose Palestinian statehood, compared to 37% who support it.

en.idi.org.il/articles/53305

This one survey is the source for those numbers, and it doesn’t paint as clear of a picture of not supporting Netanyahu. Now, this doesn’t mean anything about antisemitism. That’s always wrong. But my point is that, first off, you seem to be skewing numbers to make a point, unless you have data I can’t find. Secondly, you also seem to be falling in with that group of people who can’t grasp or don’t operate with any nuance. I can say fuck people who support the genocide, whether they are in Israel or elsewhere in the world. Because…it’s fucking genocide. That doesn’t mean I get to generalize about them and hate hem for unrelated qualities, like their religion or skin color. But I can hate their beliefs about what’s happening. It’s all about nuance. It’s very fucking important.

disguy_ovahea ,

Israel is a nation. There is no nation of Palestine. That’s why I wrote “nationalist or racist.” Either way, the sentiment is the same ignorant hatred that is propagating the war.

You’re conflating a Palestinian statehood poll with Netanyahu’s favorability. Israelis are protesting in the tens of thousands in the streets against Netanyahu.

So fuck Netanyahu and Hamas. Just keep your prejudices away from the Palestinian and Israeli people.

TheFriar ,

But that doesn’t change anything. If anything, wouldn’t that make it different than saying “fuck Palestine?” Because you’re basically saying fuck the idea of a Palestinian state. But if you say “fuck Israel,” you’re very clearly designating the state itself as the problem.

Also, I wasn’t conflating those figures. I was citing a more recent poll that gave more context, as well as updated job favorability numbers. The poll you’re citing isn’t measuring favorability, but percentage of Israelis that want Netanyahu to “stay in office after the war in Gaza ends.”

keep your prejudices away from the Palestinian and Israeli people.

But that’s my entire point. There isn’t prejudice in saying “fuck Israel.” You’re projecting that onto the message. Your entire thing started with complaining that people are “anti-Israel” in a community. So I’m really just not even sure your point anymore.

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s never too late to learn the difference between a people and a state.

Sprawlie ,

I deleted my 14 year old account after enough BS on Reddit

Going there with no account but not really on private mode so i got recommendations for regional subs

canada_sub keeps getting pushed. That sub is an alt right neo nazi echo chamber in which the founder and head mod admitted to astroturfing himself with multiple accounts to push hateful topics.

Reddit is intentionally pushing misinformation and hatred for metrics to prop up the ipo

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

it was a hotbed of anti-Israel and anti-America content.

Welcome to a hotbed of anti-imperial, anti-colonial, and anti-settler content 😂 If you’re looking for pro-imperial core content, you’ve come to the wrong place.

Serinus ,
Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

My old comments would have had me banned a hundred times over today.

TheFriar ,

Jesus what kind of shit did you used to say lol

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

I was fresh off the bus from 4chan and is was the same culture in the early days.

idiomaddict ,

I don’t know if 50k people, at least a third of whom are outside of the US is a big enough target or if I’m being naïve in thinking that

TheFriar ,

I was thinking the same thing. It’s definitely not a coordinated propaganda thing. Some people are just assholes. And they like to troll.

But who knows, maybe someone, somewhere, knows about lemmy—some government/interest group—and think it’s worth it because it can be accessed through mastodon, blue sky, etc. The fediverse seems to be a relatively popular subject these days. So, I dunno. Maybe.

But I think some people just suck and think trolling is a good pastime.

Hamartiogonic , to asklemmy in Lemmy Babies of the Rexodus - it's been 9 months, how has Lemmy changed you?
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’ve already moved on. Couldn’t care less about Reddit any more.

Before the APIcalypse, I was already playing with the thought of quitting Reddit. Spez just sped up that process.

Carnelian ,

Same lol. Was basically just waiting for something new to pop up, was already using lemmy for a bit before reddit cut third party apps and made the transition that much easier.

corsicanguppy ,

I’ve already moved on. Couldn’t care less about Reddit any more.

This.

But not much has changed, functionally, for me: I still get downvoted when I point out where people can improve their English and surpass my nephew when he was in the third grade. And I still get to debate technical things based on what I know, so that’s really no change. Different pile, is all.

mattw3496 ,

Not here to fight you, but this line of thinking might be why people downvote you for being a language/grammar nazi.

Vilian ,

i downvote because 99% af the time people already know how to write, they just don’t want to bother fixing that single error or just wanted to make a quick comment, also it is boring

USSEthernet ,

i downvote because 99% af the time people already know how to write, they just don’t want to bother fixing that single error or just wanted to make a quick comment, also it is boring

I* of*

Can I has ownvote please?

Vilian ,

i didn’t improve my english with your corrections, it was just annoying

Ashtear ,

Correcting someone’s English also almost never adds anything to the conversation at hand, which is the literal purpose of the downvote.

Willy ,

no. it’s a disagree button!

tiefling ,

The admins made it really easy to quit when they suspended me after RvW for saying that riot police should quit their jobs en masse

But somehow straight up calling for the end of trans people is totally fine and dandy by them

MrVilliam , to asklemmy in What are some underrated yet well paid jobs that one should consider and why ?

I have been working in power plants for over ten years. Entry level plant operators can make six figures with a high school diploma. At a decent plant, you’ll be balls to the wall busy on 5-10% of your shifts, pretty steady with general routine stuff that’s mostly just confirming that shit is normal 80% of the time, and the remaining 10% is in outages which can vary between busting your ass and waiting around but it’s rough either way because you might be working every day for a few weeks. Every plant I’ve been to does 12 hour shifts with pretty frequent changes between days and nights, which is by far the worst part. You’ll have an easier time getting in and moving up if you are pretty good with STEM stuff, but you’re fine if you passed honors physics in high school. V=IR and PV=nRT will get you really far. Spatial reasoning skills are also really helpful.

I’m at a combined cycle natural gas plant where I started as an outside operator almost 3 years ago at $39.80/hour and am now a ZLD water treatment operator in the same plant at $52/hour; control room operators start at about $60/hour here. I had a really shitty 12 hour shift today so I earned every dime of that wage, but sometimes it’s only like 4-6 hours of work in a 12 hour shift and a bunch of reading or YouTube in between while monitoring everything. Even the tough shifts are kinda good sometimes because I get to work the puzzle part of my brain.

captainjaneway ,
@captainjaneway@lemmy.world avatar

What starting jobs does your plant offer right now? Are they hiring? I’m not interested but I am wondering if your experience is colored at all by a different job market.

Did you have any experience prior to 3 years ago?

MrVilliam ,

My plant in particular has a roster of only about 30 people, only about 5 of which are what I would call entry level. Right now we’re fully staffed, but every couple of years we get a few people who leave. We’ll have probably two retirements in the next couple of years, and who knows who will say fuck this place and go elsewhere. But this is all for in-house stuff. I got into the industry as a contractor with a few different companies making less money and running harder for a long while, so that made me a much more attractive candidate. But really I just carry myself well and know how to sell myself and appear respectable even though I feel like a 10 year old trapped in a 35 year old body most of the time. Idk what I’m doing half the time, but neither does anybody else in this stupid world lol.

A super easy way to get your foot in the door for the industry is to look into companies that support outages. It can be irregular work that requires travel, but companies always need bodies just to be a general laborer. You might just be carrying shit for “skilled” workers for a while but you get familiar with processes and can find advancement opportunities from there. I started with radiological decontamination and radiation protection for nuclear plant refuel outages. Most of those guys seem to have like an 8th grade education, so it’s pretty easy to stand out in a positive way and receive recognition.

Probably the best thing for my career to really get where I am was when I somehow talked my way into a job with a major company as a water treatment FSR to handle water treatment for a big nuclear plant. I learned a lot through that, and I’m still very much learning every day.

captainjaneway ,
@captainjaneway@lemmy.world avatar

That’s insane. Good info though. Thanks for the details! If I ever need a career switch, I’ll consider it lol

rustydrd ,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not gonna lie: When I started reading your comment, I was fairly sure this was gonna be some kind of Simpsons joke.

MrVilliam ,

The real Simpsons joke is affording a big house with a garage, two cars, three kids, pets, and vacations on a single income from a high school education. My wife and I are a DINK couple each with associates degrees in a two bedroom apartment with no pets.

D’oh indeed, Homer. D’oh indeed…

rustydrd ,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

The year is 2024, and we’re all Frank Grimes now: https://youtu.be/axHoy0hnQy8

dingus ,

It was doable back in the day, especially if nuclear plant workers make as much as the OP says.

My family was exactly like the Simpsons in terms of what we could afford growing up and who was working. Although my dad worked in an auto factory as opposed to a nuclear plant. He was first a line worker but then managed to be trained to repair machinery.

In the year 2024, it’s hard to fathom how that was at all possible to do, but times were different back then. I will say, I’m fairly certain that my parents were also in a ton of debt when I was growing up. It’s just that they used to give loans to everyone (hence the housing market crash in around 2009 or whenever it was).

wheeldawg ,

I don’t know if it was created by the show, but if it is, by mentioning “Dink” you seem to be a fellow Doug enjoyer.

MrVilliam ,

I don’t think Doug invented it, but probably helped popularize it.

Yeah, I like Doug. Killer Tofu is unironically a fucking bop. But now that I’m older, Doug might have had some kind of social disorder or something lol. But he also has a ton of similarities to JD from Scrubs, another show I really liked.

wheeldawg ,

I still blast it out every now and then. That and Banging on a Trash Can

folkrav , to linux in I tried, I really did

I swear, every time one of these posts/comments pops up, the chances root issues are caused by Nvidia hardware is insanely high.

lemmyvore ,

Perhaps we could suggest OP other things to try before we suggest they should rip out their GPU. I don’t know, basic problem-solving approach, like using the Nouveau or generic Vesa driver to rule out the proprietary Nvidia driver, or a different screen-sharing method to rule out RDP. Which is a proprietary Windows protocol so it may not work perfectly from Linux and with an unusual hardware configuration.

folkrav ,

I don’t completely disagree with you. But it’s also a reality I’ve had to deal with myself as well. My personal take is I’d rather avoid the brand altogether if you care about Linux, but I also realize it’s not always possible if you care about - or need, for various reasons - things like CUDA, NVENC and RTX. In this case, OP specifically wants CUDA, and that won’t work without the proprietary driver.

lemming741 ,

Life is easier with a mediocre workstation card for video outputs, and the Nvidia card doing just CUDA.

hactar42 OP ,

So, I’m coming to learn that about Nvidia. I figured with the 3080 being a few years old now things would be alright. I was wrong.

folkrav ,
jkrtn ,

What’s a decent GPU that behaves nicely with Linux?

folkrav ,

In my experience most things AMD fare pretty well. My 6750 XT is working great. My older RX 580 and Radeon HD 6870 were also pretty solid.

deadbeef ,

I have two AMD Radeon cards for Linux that I’m pretty happy with that replaced a couple of Nvidia cards. They are an RX6800 and an RX6700XT. They were both ex mining cards that I bought when the miners were dumping their ethereum rigs, so they were pretty cheap.

If I had to buy a new card to fill that gap, I’d probably get a 7800XT, but if you don’t game on them you could get a much lower end model like an RX7600.

jkrtn ,

I’d be interested in one that could do gaming and compute stuff. Thank you for the specific recs, I’ll check those out!

possiblylinux127 ,

Most of AMD is good. Slightly older is going to be best

possiblylinux127 ,

Most AMD GPUs are good

Honytawk ,

Are they actually good? Or are they decent?

Because AMD on Windows has a lot of flaws compared to Nvidia. Nvidia can run anything with tons of cutting-edge features and everything is documented. AMD on the other hand, doesn’t come close to that kind of support.

AMD does work of course, just not always how it should.

Is it actually good on Linux out of the box? Or does it still require finicking every now and then?

possiblylinux127 ,

The brand new devices will require a newer kernel but other than that they work out of the box

ReakDuck ,

I had issues with my Nvidia gpu and Wayland Desktops.

Especially with the new Steam Big Picture mode both Linux and Windows being laggy.

AMD on the other hand had one issue in Windows where my friend told me to reinstall the drivers because the second Monitor couldnt be detected at random times when rebooting.

On Linux on the other Hand… zero issues. Literally. I am satisfied how good it works compared to trashy Nvidia having constant issues. Even on Windows I had issues with Nvidia because you need to sign in and download the drivers. Sometimes there is an update and you never know, and wonder why your game doesnt work. Well, because you need the newest update suddenly. Not with AMD on Windows. And on Linux. You dont even need to install amything. Mostly preinstalled Mesa drivers but I am not that certain.

BCsven ,

Might have Luck with Leap or Tumbleweed because nVidia hosts their own openSUSE driver repos. add nVidia repo to SUSE, GUI select the driver and click OK

Hubi ,

From what I’ve read, I must be the luckiest person in the world. I’ve been on Linux for 10+ years and only ever had Nvidia hardware. I’ve never had any issues aside from the occasional Vsync annoyance.

SnotFlickerman , to piracy in Newsgroups?
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

"torrents are so last decade, we need to use the technology of four decades ago!"

USENET was first rolled out in 1979.

Reverendender ,
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SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Roe vs Wade is so last decade… What we really need is much older legal precedent, ah yes, like from this judge who presided over Witch Trials.


Well played, friend.

Reverendender ,

We all know the firearms policies of 1627 are what we really need to cure society’s ills in 2024

snooggums ,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

A creative interpretation of the firearms policies of 1627.

VampyreOfNazareth ,

Musket life.

Flynn_Mandrake ,
@Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Just as the founding fathers intended.

troyunrau , to askscience in How dark is Mars compared to Earth in a very practical sense?
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Excellent question. From first principles: mars is about 1.5 AU from the sun. Using the intensity equation (inverse square law), Mars should receive about 1/(1.5x1.5) the amount of solar radiation, or about 44% on average.

Earth gets about 1400 W/m² hitting the top of the atmosphere, but most places on earth only see about 1000 W/m² after the column of air absorbs a bunch of it. Martian air absorbs almost nothing (being very thin), so you’d expect to see about 44% of 1400W/m² – or about 600W/m².

A quick Google search for “mars solar intensity” shows a result of 590 W/m², so that is pretty close to accurate, from first principles.

So 60% as bright, if talking pure intensity. As you say, the human eye has a pretty responsive dynamic range, and this is quite an acceptable number.

For point of comparison, this is the difference between the sun at high noon versus the sun at 4pm for most of the world. On Mars, high noon would have a solar intensity more like 4pm on earth. No where close to your darkness experience with the eclipse.

double_oh_walter ,

Excellent answer! Sciency enough and a very tangible comparison.

kittehx ,
@kittehx@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

With regards to the eclipse it would depend on how much of the sun is covered though. I’d assume it’d about the same as you’d get during a partial eclipse when the sun is 40% covered?

troyunrau ,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Effectively, yes

Scubus ,

Since you answered it, I figured I’d add that on the dark sides, Earth and Mars likely have similar light levels(ignoring the moon and light that’s bent through the atmosphere)

NABDad , to nostupidquestions in How do I stop hating children?

I’m just a dickhead on the Internet, but what you’re describing doesn’t sound normal or healthy to me. Have you tried therapy?

ThatWeirdGuy1001 OP ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve done therapy a few times now and we never really covered this.

It doesn’t help that I live in a small town so the therapists here are extremely underqualified for actual mental illness and not just helping people through “tough” times

TootSweet ,

There’s such a thing as remote therapy.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 OP ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve tried that more times than actual in person therapy and it’s extremely hard for me to form the emotional attachment necessary for me to let my guard down and bare my thoughts and feelings.

It feels so fake and forced. I feel more like a subject being examined than a patient there for care

rynzcycle ,

Your mileage may vary, but have you tried over the phone instead of video chat (if it's an option where you live)? I felt exactly the same about video, but something about over the phone felt chill, I could just "chat with a friend" in my pajamas. Helped me a lot and neither my therapist or I ever actually saw each other.

kautau ,

Or even just messages. I believe that betterhelp offers purely messages for therapy, which would maybe help start a more trusting relationship first. And they could either stick with messages, or if they’re comfortable, move to voice therapy

Lmaydev ,

At the end of the day with therapy you get out what you put in. They can’t help you work through issues if they don’t know what they are.

I recently had a breakdown and attended therapy. I decided from the start I’d just be completely open and throw everything I have at them.

It was massively helpful and has transformed my life.

It’s their job to listen and not judge and they’ve definitely heard much much worse stuff.

TimewornTraveler ,

yeah tele medicine isn’t always great. the bond is important, and it’s harder to build that way.

keep checking out your town. even a small town is gonna have a decent number of therapists. don’t worry too much about their expertise. if they’re licensed, they have the training to help you. trust that and focus on the bond.

Chobbes ,

I get that, but for what it’s worth… You really can kind of just dump it on them. They’re not allowed to share it, and they’re often happy to just get to the point sometimes. Though it does feel more transactional that way.

pineapplelover ,

Betterhelp was selling medical information to facebook so make sure you find someplace legitimate to get help

PullUpCircuit ,

That’s not a terrible idea. They might even tell you that your emotions are not uncommon and give you some tips for dealing with it.

Or something else could be going on and you could get some more complete therapy.

Source: being some other jerk on the Internet.

NABDad ,

Internet jerks unite!!!

leo , to linux in My First Regular Expressions

Knowledge and understanding. Feels good, man.

Obligatory Xkcd.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d6d2db0a-cf5a-4270-b4bb-a898d9b88695.png

harsh3466 OP ,

It does feel good! And thanks for that xkcd! That one’s new to me.

CosmicTurtle ,

Ah…the days when perl was the shit and python was still a glimmer in the eye of some frustrated programmer.

bionicjoey ,
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