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Jah348 , to reddit in Did anyone try to return to reddit and notice it just didn't do it for you anymore?

Idk I don’t exactly find Lemmy a bastion of my interests. It’s very clear the community is far smaller. The niche communities of topics im interested are mostly nonexistent and it’s largely a sea of memes and references I don’t remotely understand or care to. Something about communists or some shit? What? Pass.

gabe ,

What interests do you have that aren’t found here? Some tiny niche interest communities are being built, you sometimes just gotta find em

Frozengyro ,

They’re typically so small there is a post a week and few if any comments.

Also I find it’s difficult to find communities in the first place.

elbarto777 ,

What interests do you have that aren’t found here?

booty ,

Active communities for specific video games that I play. There are general gaming communities that are active, but I’d rather be able to discuss specific games without having to start my own thread every time.

Tech communities that aren’t just “Windows bad, Linux good”. I get Lemmy is more likely to attract technical-minded, FOSS fans, and that’s fine, but the amount of Linux zealotry is annoying. I’ve dual booted for 20 years now, but people here act like Windows is actively murdering your pets while Linux “just works” and it’s… Just not true.

Communities for my area. I could make them, but I have exactly zero interest in running a community, let alone one for people I could know irl. I don’t have the time to manage or grow a community, and completely lack the desire even if I had the time. My city, county, state, job, and school all have active communities on Reddit.

Acting like Lemmy has it all when it’s total active user base is a fraction of some major subreddits active subscriber count is… Delusional at best. I want Lemmy to work and be a replacement for reddit. I miss early, smaller reddit even. But Lemmy just isn’t it yet.

Jah348 ,

The “windows bad linux good” is a great frame for most communities ive found here. Like often wrapped in some delusional joke-meme that it’s an extremely small parody of itself.

vashti ,

I would give my eye teeth for a Persona 5 community on lemmy.

A good one, ideally, which certainly would be a step up from reddit.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You could probably post to PlayStation communities and see if other people would be interested in creating that community with you.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Active communities for specific video games that I play. There are general gaming communities that are active, but I’d rather be able to discuss specific games without having to start my own thread every time.

!baldurs_gate_3 seems to be doing okay.

I guess games being released now (such as Starfield) might get more traction than established titles.

sylverstream ,

Fitness! /r/fitness is in the top 20 or so and has millions of subscribers, but no active lemmy community seems to exist.

And also food and icecream. Haven’t found active communities about those topics.

gabe ,

Speaking as someone actively building niche focused communities (literature.cafe for books and writing & lemmyloves.art for art) this kind of defeatist attitude saddens me. Community’s don’t explode over night. I fully get that community discovery is hard as hell right now though with lemmy, and attempts are being made to fix it. But with the communities that do exist, it’s a matter of participating and starting conversations if you don’t see one you want to participate in. On a new and emerging platform like this, you really can’t be a lurker. Posting, commenting, engagement, and likes is the only currency here.

The thing with lemmy is that it does feel like screaming into the void sometimes, but you also have the benefit of a smaller community to have more focused discussions. Quality over quantity is the focus here rather than the mess that reddit had. Reddit has tons of content but a large portion of that is just noise and spam, it is much more preferable to have a high quality post once a day with an engaging and thoughtful discussion than a community filled with low quality spam most of the time and only one high quality post a day that’s nearly impossible to find.

JokeDeity ,

It’s wild that art and books are niche in your words. Niche for me would be like a specific author or artist, but books and art I think of as incredibly vast topics, far from niche.

gabe ,

I have specific art medium focuses and book series communities within it that I’m building as well

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The issue is mostly having !books , !books , and then every saga/genre opening their new community, while there are probably a dozen posters interested in books.

I usually try to stick to !fiction and !nonfiction

Wollang ,

I miss my American Dad! community

transmatrix ,

Yeah, lots of niche communities are dead compared to their subreddit counterparts. Examples: OnePiece, AvatarTLA, VentureBros, Plex, and the subreddit for my town. I’m hoping this changes over time, but I still find myself going back to Reddit periodically.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

!futurama has been quite active following the release of the new seasons.

I guess that completed franchises can only have so much activity

SgtSilverLining , (edited )
@SgtSilverLining@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
  • there’s half a dozen sewing communities, but no one posts in them
  • fashion communities are also barren
  • pretty sure I’m the only person posting in !DCComics out of 200 subscribers. I’m not a mod there (the og mod is an empty account with no comments/posts) and it’s not a community I want to recreate on my instance.
can ,

You should ask an admin to be a mod.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

What fashion communities exist? Just curious, that’s a topic I’m really not familiar with

maniel ,
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

same with food, apparently there’s no foodies here, as there is a serious lack of burgers/pizza/ramen/pho communities, people shared their photos, recipes etc on reddit

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Did you have a look at !foodporn ? I see it popping in my feed every day

maniel ,
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

yeah, i’m subscribed, but it’s a minor fraction of what it was on reddit, people discussed there their pizza/burgers recipes/techniques, fought over burger/pizza/ramen/pho definitions etc

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Indeed, Lemmy is a minor fraction of Reddit population wise, there’s not much that can be done around it unfortunately

sylverstream ,

Fitness, /r/fitness is in the top 20 or so.

Food and icecream.

It seems mainly tech talk here, and anti Windows everywhere.

But based on my posts, someone decided to replace his petrol car with a Leaf. Someone else got into Home Assistant because of me. So it has its goods sides as well.

Peppycito ,

Boats, fibre arts in general - sailing, sewing in particular. Also small city communities. Reddit had town subs, lemmy has nothing under the provincial level for me.

Milan ,

If you’re looking for a community that doesn’t exist, you gotta create it. People will come.

RampageDon ,

Not OP but the issue isn’t creating the space, but creating content in that space. Growing a community is a lot of work. Unless you already have some strong engagement and or a few people creating content it’s really just up to you to keep making post until the community gets more traction. Most people like the idea of starting the new community but not the work it requires as it often just feels like yelling into the void.

Cube6392 ,

Community building is more about moderation and evangelism than it is about clicking a button. Its a ton of work. People think a lot of the time you just kinda declare a forum and then it happens. I moderated a community of like 5 people for a while and even just THAT was exhausting and time consuming

RampageDon ,

I don’t think you will need much evangelism unless you are a christian based sub. Agree with all the other points though it’s not a if you build it they will come situation.

Cube6392 ,

Evangelism wasn’t necessary the right word, but its not a strictly religious word. I wrote it as “recruitment” at first but I hated that more since it made the process of letting people know about your community more mechanical and less personal. I wanted to emphasize letting people know about the community in a relationship building way, and couldnt think of a better word

RampageDon ,

Just an fyi Webster definition of evangelism: the winning or reawakening of personal commitments to Jesus. The google definition: the spreading of the Christian gospel by public preaching or personal witness.

You might not have meant it like that, but I assume most people will take it at face value of those definitions.

Cube6392 ,

Huh. When I asked for a definition online I got “fervent advocacy of a cause”

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Don’t worry, Linux evangelism has been a thing for a while, and htere’s no gospel there

gabe ,

I mean the organic growth of my book and writing focused instance has been pretty solid. It’s not giant, but the people are there. When community discovery is better in lemmy it’ll improve as well.

RampageDon ,

How are you not going to give a shout out to your community?!

gabe ,

Dunno if you’re being serious or sarcastic but I have in this thread already, it’s literature.cafe for books and writing and lemmyloves.art for more art focused stuff. Both communities have a “411” community that lists communities to federate into other instances. Honestly I am hopeful such a list will become redundant as community navigation improves. We thankfully have a leg on lemmy compared to mastodon as you only need to federate in communities, not users.

RampageDon ,

I was being serious! I was only responding to messages in the inbox and made the original post before yours so I didn’t see it. Sorry to make you repeat yourself.

gabe ,

Oh no it’s all good! :) I also have an art focused community that’s newer, its lemmyloves.art The growth is steady in each community, but it’s definitely there.

YellowGas ,
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I love Lemmy, but I really struggle with the content here. Of course things are a little bare, but I have been able to find some really good stuff. My engagement is a lot higher here than on Reddit. However I find the litany of anti-work and political/left/right posts insufferable. They’re everywhere here. At least on Reddit I felt like I could insulate myself reasonably well from political stuff. c/mildlyinfuriating is an example of this. At least half of the posts I come across are blatantly political or are anti-work. I get it, work sucks and you don’t want to work and rich people/landlords bad. R/mildlyinfurating is a much better sub than ours is a community, imo. But I can’t surround myself with this kind of Lemmy content every day because it just angers me and I didn’t go to reddit to be angry every day. I have found myself drifting back to reddit for 60% of my usage. I hope this changes. I’ve tried to sub to different communities as well to limit how much I have to read about the latest communists and nazis and racists/fascists and tankies and all that Lemmy bullshit. Clearly I need to do a better job.

CandyRushSweetest ,
@CandyRushSweetest@lemmy.world avatar

The reason is because people aren’t creating those communities on here. If you want a community, the best step is to do it yourself, unfortunately.

You can try to talk to subreddit admin or mod team about it, but I think it’s just that Lemmy needs more people to “do” than “want” if you understand what I’m saying.

pqdinfo , to nostupidquestions in How is former president of the US Donald Trump still free when a lot of the accomplices in things he has been indicted for are already in jail and or prison except him?

There are multiple reasons, but one thing I’ve read is that part of the strategy of taking down someone big is to take down the people who work for him first. The process results in more evidence being gathered, plea deals that result in yet more evidence, etc.

brcl ,
@brcl@artemis.camp avatar

This is probably a correct assumption, plus it also keeps it relevant. More of his supporters/underlings going to jail and it keeps the heat on. It drew it out for how long and now the nation is ramping up for another election and Trump’s indictments start flying in.

nuxetcrux ,

They are also worried about setting dangerous precedents in the process of closing these loopholes we didn’t think needed closing (like the largely ceremonial congressional ratification of votes on Jan 6,or the peaceful transition of power in general) and dismantling an enterprise whose director continually aims to obstruct a good faith process to the bitter end (Trump’s attacks on legislative and judicial branches, specifically DOJ and it’s bureaus).

Also, he’s not exactly “free.”. That being said, it is truly infuriating, and detrimental to all of us, consciously and subconsciously. It’s like Republicans are living out the ending of “Requiem for a Dream.”

DogMuffins ,

The indictments have boosted Trump’s popularity though.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

Is there any evidence that Trump has gained fans because of this? I cannot fathom how that could work.

DogMuffins ,

“gained fans” is problematic because it’s subjective, but it’s being widely reported that his polling has improved with the indictments. This is the first hit in search with some details but there are many articles like it.

Briefly, the narrative that it’s a politically motivated witch hunt is resonating with voters.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

If the trump era taught me only a couple things, one of them is that polls aren’t really very useful.

Yeah I don’t doubt there are some folks who now are more motivated to vote for trump… however that really exceeds the number who turned away from him?

What other criminal in history survives literally infinite evidence against them, and not just with their existing supporters, but also that evidence actively somehow turns NEW people in their favor? AND those new people outnumber the people who finally realize the truth??I just had a literal nightmare and this scenario feels right at home in the fucked world my mind conjured.

bennysp ,
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Yeah, but also remember that if there is one thing history taught us, it is that a non popular voted president can win still. Many of us were in disbelief when it happened with this guy.

Also, don’t underestimate the fact that people may disagree with Trump, but they only have to disagree/hate Biden more in order to vote for this guy.

So yes, I do agree that his polls may be increasing or rather, I never underestimate that they could be.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

All fair points. I’m not resting on my laurels though. I’m just against the idea that we should be timid about prosecuting the motherfucker because of polls

DogMuffins ,

one of them is that polls aren’t really very useful

IDK about this. We’ve certainly learned that polls are poor predictors of election outcomes, but can they at least reveal trends like “approval is increasing/decreasing” ? IDK.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

Maybe, but it’s hard not to feel really cynical about any positive change a poll seems to indicate.

DogMuffins ,

That’s definitely a good point.

nilloc ,

I watch a lot of automotive content on YouTube, and it’s been interesting seeing right wing ads evolve (and yes, the fact that I like cars means they think I’m conservative bums me out, I also subscribe to bicycle stuff and climatetown, but whatever).

There’s a new one that is basically “Trump will lose to Biden again. Vote for anyone but him in the primary.” Kinda warmed my heart a bit.

sudo22 , to asklemmy in Which proprietary software do you prefer over their open-source alternatives, and why?
@sudo22@lemmy.world avatar

Steam. The support they have for multiplatform almost feels open source and they have been invaluable for the adoption of desktop Linux

OC_VORTEKS ,

Absolutely, making proton open source made me respect them more than any other major tech company

Veritas ,
@Veritas@lemmy.ml avatar

What are the open-source alternatives though? I don’t think there are even proprietary alternatives, it’s like Netflix before each publisher decided to make their own streaming platform.

Hazzard , to fediverse in Is is possible to see who upvoted/downvoted a specific comment?

Hmmm, tbh, I don’t think that’s a feature I’d want. Every now and again you see “that guy” furious that he’s getting downvotes, doubling down and trying to start an argument or something. I don’t need that guy showing up in my DMs.

LastSprinkles OP ,

Yeah agree I am not sure that’s a feature I’d want either tbh if it wasn’t already there. But seems like it is in some form.

Hazzard ,

Yeah, having it on your user page is much less dangerous, imo. Still a possibility of getting called out if you downvote someone you’re arguing with, but you’re already in the comments there.

The only way I see a problem is if someone writes a bot or extension that reads the user profile into something “per comment”, and if that gets enough traction and use to build up a strong database. However, in that case, I’d imagine the Lemmy devs would build a feature to let instance admins hide that information from regular users.

HamSwagwich ,

It’s part of the ActivityPub protocol. It’s inherent in the system unless you don’t want votes to register on anything but the local server.

Don’t vote if you aren’t willing to own your interactions. Stop being a troll.

Hazzard ,

It’s not being a troll, downvotes are part of the system for a reason: suppressing toxicity. If you downvote a toxic comment to push it down in the algorithm, there shouldn’t be a risk of that toxic person deciding they have a grudge and attacking you personally. Otherwise you risk downvotes not being used for their intended purpose, and an overall more toxic environment.

HamSwagwich ,

It absolutely is being a troll. If you aren’t willing to associate yourself with your participation, that’s the definition of a troll.

With anonymous downvotes, they are already weaponized and used to suppress topics. Having publicly available voting means you can block people who are toxic downvoters and/or hopefully ban those people/bots that do that.

Let me say this again so I can be perfectly clear: **If you are not willing to own your participation on a public forum, you should not be participating on that public forum. Go to a private one. **

The rise of online toxicity is a direct correlation with anonymity. What’s even more egregious about your stance is the fact that if you want to be anonymous and maintain your anonimity, it’s easy to do: use a throwaway account or otherwise anonymous account on yours or any other lemmy instance. There is absolutely NO valid reason to not have your voting history public in the Fediverse. The privacy crowd can make that happen by having throwaway accounts (which can be banned for being toxic, etc…) and people who want to have civilized discussions can have that by blocking/banning problem accounts. Taking away the public nature of your participation ONLY encourages toxic behavior and the ONLY people advocating for private voting are either trolls or people who don’t understand the problem.

Hazzard ,

I’m not sure I understand your position here, because voting is such a minor part of the system. A troll that only trolls by upvoting and downvoting isn’t much of a threat, unless they’ve got a dozen alt accounts or a botnet, both of which are different situations that should be handled differently. “The definition of a troll” is ridiculous hyperbole.

And as far as bans are concerned, that’s a moderation problem, not your role as an individual. I’ve never suggested votes should be completely untraceable, that’d be patently ridiculous and remove the ability to actually handle vote manipulation. Moderators and admins should obviously have that access, as I’ve asserted in this thread.

I’m also not advocating my votes be anonymous, I’m fine with having them public on my page. That alone gives you the complete ability to make a judgement about me as a person, or whatever it is you want to do with that. What I’m suggesting is that a user who’s just been downvoted shouldn’t have a trivial way of linking it to the individual who downvoted them in order to harass them.

Frankly, the impression I’m getting is that you’re not actually paying much attention to the case I’ve made, and are instead just using my comments as a platform to have a completely different argument that you’re passionate about. That’s the ONLY way that you could have missed my point so entirely, and come to the conclusion that I could ONLY be a troll or a moron.

HamSwagwich ,

When you interact online and refuse to own your interactions, that’s trolling. That’s what I mean when I say that. If you aren’t willing to own up to your interactions (particularly negative ones), then you are being a troll. Small, large, medium sized doesn’t matter… a troll is a troll and contributes, however minorly, to the toxicity of a given community.

And as far as bans are concerned, that’s a moderation problem, not your role as an individual. I’ve never suggested votes should be completely untraceable, that’d be patently ridiculous and remove the ability to actually handle vote manipulation. Moderators and admins should obviously have that access, as I’ve asserted in this thread.

As an admin of an instance, that just adds more work that should be handled between users, not moderators/admins. Traditionally yes it’s been handled by moderators/admins, and they get overloaded and become jaded. They can be biased (for or against you), they can just not care, etc… if we can move that moderation job off of the moderators and onto the users where they belong, we foster the independence and autonomy, as well as the accountability, that every individual should have. That way, if something isn’t going your way you know where to look for the source of the problem, instead of blaming biased moderators etc…

I’m also not advocating my votes be anonymous, I’m fine with having them public on my page. That alone gives you the complete ability to make a judgement about me as a person, or whatever it is you want to do with that. What I’m suggesting is that a user who’s just been downvoted shouldn’t have a trivial way of linking it to the individual who downvoted them in order to harass them.

Why not? If the down voter is a bad actor, why not give the user the ability to know who it is and block them? If the down voter is a white hat and legitimately voting down a subject, why do they need to hide behind anonymity? Anonymous downvotes only serves the bad actors. If you are not a bad actor and you want to participate in a community, you should be held accountable for your actions. This is not a “if you have nothing to hide scenario…” Let me provide an example:

Poster A posts something controversial that is completely against the norms of society, lets say they post that “groping women on the train should be allowed”

Poster B downvotes them because it’s obviously a stupid idea and deserves a downvote. No problem, right? It’s downvoted because it should be downvoted and if poster A wants to go after poster B (and everyone else who downvoted), as you said, one down voter isn’t going to be a problem.

Now, what if Poster A posts “Every human deserves the same basic rights, including trans people!” and poster B decides to downvote Poster A. Should Poster A not be able to identify who downvoted them and avoid them in the future?

If voting is “such a minor part of the system” what does it matter if it’s public or not or if someone “goes after” someone who downvoted them? The worst they can do is … down vote them harder?

If, however, it’s not such a minor part and is an important part, then we need accountability for who’s voting.

If it’s a vote brigade situation or downvote bot, the user being downvoted as the right to know WHO is doing it and block them if they so choose. Taking it to the logical extreme, if a given individual blocks everyone who downvotes them, they will eventually end up in an echo chamber of their own making and isolate themselves, either through blocking people or people blocking them. So it becomes a non-issue on it’s own.

Frankly, the impression I’m getting is that you’re not actually paying much attention to the case I’ve made, and are instead just using my comments as a platform to have a completely different argument that you’re passionate about. That’s the ONLY way that you could have missed my point so entirely, and come to the conclusion that I could ONLY be a troll or a moron.

What case have you made for private voting? I haven’t seen you make a case, other than “Voting should not be accessible to the general public” but you haven’t explained or demonstrated a scenario where the benefits of that (which are… what?) outweigh the negatives (trolling, brigading, bots, morons, etc)

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Haha, well this aged like milk

CookieJarObserver ,
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah only necessary for the admins to see vote manipulation bots.

Hazzard ,

Oooh, good point. As an admin/moderator feature, that’s a much better idea.

CookieJarObserver ,
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah not for mods, there are communitys with certain mods that already behave like u/awkwardturtle did just and only for the admins

NightOwl ,

It’s possible now if you visit the same page through kbin.

CoffeeAddict ,
@CoffeeAddict@kbin.social avatar

It actually already is a feature. Kbin puts it upfront, and I think lemmy also has a way to access it.

I think it remains to be seen whether or not it’s a good idea.

I’ve seen some people say they like the idea because it make people think twice about downvoting - it cuts back on the instinctive “I don’t like this so I am gonna downvote.”

But, as you said, do we really want people coming after you because you downvoted them? There are crazy ass people out there, and if you ever get doxxed it could be a problem.

Maybe that last point is hyperbole, but crazy people are gonna do crazy things.

Anafroj , (edited )

“karma” (as reddit calls scoring) never was more true to its name. :)

I haven’t looked at Lemmy’s implementation of upvotes/downvotes, but they should be ActivityPub activities, so it means they should appear by making a request to the user’s actor.

EDIT: I’ve just checked random users outbox (that’s the ActivityPub name for the list of activities), included mine, they are actually just empty. So that probably means that Lemmy is only publishing the upvotes/downvotes when pushing activities to federated servers, which would make those activities way more private, although not completely : someone could setup their own instance to learn about them, and it’s best to be assume that at some point, someone will start such instance and publish an app revealing all votes for everybody (plus, as others mentioned, Kbin is already doing it).

CoffeeAddict ,
@CoffeeAddict@kbin.social avatar

Right.

My intuition says this has to do with kbin wanting to interface with mastodon, but I cant be sure.

I do wonder how this will impact the Fediverse as it grows. I would not be surprised if the feature creates schisms in the future.

HamSwagwich ,

If you aren’t willing to own your interactions with people, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it? Why do you feel the need to hide? Thought processes like this are what leads to toxicity online. If you aren’t willing to own your comments and votes, you shouldn’t be allowed to interact with people in a community.

We call people that want to be negative online while remaining anonymous a troll. Don’t be a troll.

stark , to youshouldknow in YSK: Browsing "ALL" at work might get you pulled into an office, even with NSFW off.

Stay off company resources when using technology for personal use.

sadreality ,

Underrated comment right here...

Yall got phones jfc

rjs001 ,
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Those “company resources” were stolen from the employees

GunnarRunnar , to showerthoughts in We should start saying "Thanks /u/spez" from now on as reddits bad practices made us move to lemmy

We should stop obsessing over Reddit.

Hiru ,
@Hiru@lemmy.world avatar

This is the way

OasissisaO , to mildlyinfuriating in My Reddit Account got banned for the dumbest reason.

You probably got banned because you referred to it as being from “The Office”, when it’s originally from “SNL”

state_electrician ,
ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Wow. Didn’t know that. You learn something new every day, I guess.

Also, I guess that implies SNL exists in The Office universe.

just_cramblin ,

There were a few SNL skits that Michael called out. The Mr Bill one comes to mind

Mishmash ,

Jim also swears he saw Lorne Michaels when he was in NYC with Karen for the Job Interview.

SeatBeeSate ,

Considering Michael props up his humor on pop culture references, it’d be a must.

Kolanaki ,
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OP, you ignorant slut. 🤦‍♂️

wildekek , to nostupidquestions in Why all of a sudden tech companies are not being favorable to their users?

Venture capital has shifted very quickly from companies HOSTING content to companies SCRAPING content (LLM’s). This means renting compute is now very expensive and moving into the hands of ‘AI’ companies. It’s like trying to fly a plane while monkeys are tearing the wings of.

TrueStoryBob ,

That plus interest rates are going up. For twenty years VC’s has near limitless cheap loans, now they’ve got to be marginally more careful than before and the companies which grew large but only ever broke even (if that) now need to pivot to profitability to justify all the debt they took on. Would not be surprised if Uber and Lyft start really hiking rates soon.

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I think most taxi companies have adapted, so they are pretty competitive now.

Blizzard , to asklemmy in What is the worst IT setup you have seen at a company?

My current company has a script that runs and deletes files that haven’t been modified for two years. It doesn’t take into account any other factors, just modification date. It doesn’t aks for confirmation and doesn’t even inform the end user about.

DeathbringerThoctar ,
Kimjongtooill ,

You should write a script to touch all the files before their script runs.

Blizzard ,

Thought about it but I use modification date for sorting to have the stuff I’ve recently worked on on top. I instead keep the files where the script isn’t looking. The downside is they are not backed up so I might potentially lose them but if I don’t do that, then I’ll lose them for sure…

Reverendender ,

Have you…called attention to this at all?

Perhyte ,

You don’t actually have to set all the modification dates to now, you can pick any other timestamp you want. So to preserve the order of the files, you could just have the script sort the list of files by date, then update the modification date of the oldest file to some fixed time ago, the second-oldest to a bit later, and so on.

You could even exclude recently-edited files because the real modification dates are probably more relevant for those. For example, if you only process files older than 3 months, and update those starting from “6 months old”^1^, that just leaves remembering to run that script at least once a year or so. Just pick a date and put a recurring reminder in your calendar.

^1^: I picked 6 months there to leave some slack, in case you procrastinate your next run or it’s otherwise delayed because you’re out sick or on vacation or something.

barsquid ,

Change the date on all the files by scaling to fit the oldest file. Scale to 1 year as a safe maximum age. So if the oldest file is 1.5 years old, scale all files to be t/1.5 duration prior to now.

LazaroFilm ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Have a script that makes a copy of all files that are 1.9 years old into a separate folder.

MNByChoice ,

Create a series of folders labeled with dates. Every day copy the useful stuff to the new folder. Every night change modified dates on all files to current date.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

That’s the worst foresight I think I’ve ever heard of, you might as well make that 3 months if you’re just going to trash thousands of labor hours on those files.

BearOfaTime ,

Put all your files in a single zip file. No compression. Since Windows handles zip files like folders, you can work like normal. And the zip file will always have a recent time stamp.

biscuitswalrus ,

Seems like you should submit a change request with your fixes?

ramble81 ,

That sounds like a lawyers dream… “can’t provide it if it doesn’t exist” … now granted, if they got a subpoena they’d have to save it going forward, but before then, if their not bound by something that forces data retention, the less random data laying around the better.

brygphilomena ,

What industry are you in. This could be compliance for different reasons. Retention is a very specific thing that should be documented in policies.

I know financial institutions that specifically do not want data just hanging around. This limits liability and exposure if there is a breach, and makes any litigation much easier if the data doesn’t exist by policy.

Should they be more choosy on what gets deleted, yea probably. But I understand why it’s there.

Dasnap , to linuxmemes in HELP I ACCIDENTALLY ATE PROPRIETARY FOOD
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry, Big Cheese now owns your colon.

ogeist ,

“Isn’t your colon free and open source for anyone to use?, that’s what I thought, you corpo chill”

banazir ,
@banazir@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s ok, I prefer my colon without Open Sores.

palordrolap , to programmer_humor in this is what peak web traffic looks like

Better than a 200 JSON reply containing the 4xx. "Aay it worked!" "oh."

boonhet ,

Worked at a company where the previous devs had implemented their own frameworks for front and backend. Obviously 200 was the only possible code.

Dultas ,

Not even 418?! Uncultured swine.

magic_lobster_party ,

“Task failed successfully”

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

This legitimately happened to me a few months ago. A vendor API was returning HTTP 200 with the error details embedded in the JSON response. It was a pain in the ass to troubleshoot.

morbidcactus ,

Yeah, had that happen a few years ago, thankfully there was a consistent status attributes in the response that I could use but still, annoying

Ironfacebuster ,

I guess I might be evil but when I made APIs for my projects I do this, since I blindly accept the response then look at the JSON to see if it was accepted or not

Something like

if (body_has(JSON)) do_stuff_with(JSON) // including error handling if the response has an error else error_no_json()

I do this since I feel like JSON errors should be separate from HTTP errors

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

The problem I ran into was the response returned a JSON body, but then had an “error” attribute that was returned in it that had the error details. So we were parsing the JSON and loading elements into our database. We were hitting the API passing in a datetime of when the last success job was run, so basically saying “give me everything that’s changed since I last called you.”

So yeah, eventually we noticed we were missing small chunks of data. It turned out that every time the API errored out, we’d get a valid JSON response that contained the error message, but it didn’t have the attributes we were looking for. So didn’t load anything, but updated our timestamp to say when our last successful call was.

Huge pain in the ass to troubleshoot, because the missing data was scattered with no distinguiable pattern.

calcopiritus ,

Why not respond with the appropriate HTTP Code, and then also put the same code in the json?

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

That would have been fine for me too. I don’t own the API, so I can only speak from a consumer perspective in saying: I don’t want a HTTP 200 if my request didn’t succeed.

capnminus ,
@capnminus@lemmy.world avatar

what the fuck

fibojoly ,

I’ve had this so often… very frustrating.

I like to think the 400 within a 200 is for “look, I managed to reply to you. But there is bad news”

vithigar ,

You can give a 400 response a body though. It doesn’t stop you from replying.

lseif ,

regardless, its a big red flag for a poorly designed api

fibojoly ,

Oh I agree! It was so annoying.

Nusm , to asklemmy in What did you get told as a child that you realised was a lie as you got older?
@Nusm@yall.theatl.social avatar

When I was a little kid, I asked my grandfather what the bumps in the middle of the road (the reflectors) were for. He told me that it was so blind people could drive. It made perfect sense to me, and I believed that for longer than I should have!

LemmyKnowsBest ,

Your grandfather sounds rad

lars ,

They’re called Bott’s dots! Most places where it snows don’t have them because they don’t survive ploughing.

LemmyKnowsBest ,
  1. interesting, never thought of that before. Las Vegas Nevada (never snows there!) has excellent road infrastructure and these dots are everywhere. You can tell casino dollars and tax dollars are well used in Las Vegas. The roads are very nice.
  2. Bott’s dots – first thing that came to mind was like Dippin’ Dots
agamemnonymous , to nostupidquestions in Why is it so hard to create atoms from other atoms?
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

This can be done, it’s called nuclear fusion and the sun does it constantly. The practical limitation is, largely, overcoming the electrostatic force.

Basically, because the atoms are similarly charged, squeezing them together is like trying to push together the North sides of two magnets: they repel each other. It takes a massive amount of energy to squeeze them together hard enough to overcome that repulsion, fortunately the sun has enough energy to do this fairly easily. It is much more difficult for humans to do.

knightmare1147 ,

… I feel like you just perfectly eli5 nuclear fusion. I’m using this example next time it comes up.

caseyweederman ,

So does the sun just have huge amounts of helium? Where is it getting all that helium? Can we have some

Promethiel ,

It’s making it, from the tons of hydrogen it has in the fusion process. The energy and the reason stars even do this is because all of that mass that close together spontaneously does that; starts fusing.

We can’t have any, because a star will use up all the hydrogen to make helium, then start using all of the helium to make carbon and oxygen. Then start to make…

This is overly simplified and it varies from star to star (the more massive the star, the longer it churns through “making” elements into more “complex” elements) until its core is all iron, at which point fusion becomes a net negative.

From there other things can happen like novae. All throughout this life process though, that “elemental conversion” is happening faster on the outside as opposed to the core, and stellar winds do blow off heavier elements that enrich the interstellar medium.

We need a shovel that can plunge into the sun’s core if we want its helium, TL;DR.

Nomecks ,

Our sun will stop at carbon, then hang around until it either becomes a brown dwarf, or flies through enough matter to his the Chandrasekhar limit, then KABOOM!

SuckMyWang ,

That would be cool to watch

Nomecks ,
Hux ,

If you are really patient, I think the sun will inevitably give us a whole bunch of helium.

T156 ,

But not too patient, or else it’ll make that helium into something else.

tate ,

I can tell you know this, I’m just tacking it on for those who don’t:

Why do the nuclei stick together at all, once you’ve pushed them together? Because the nuclear force, which is attractive instead of repulsive, is just a little bit stronger. OK, so why then doesn’t the nuclear force just pull all atoms together? Because it is short range, and only works once the nuclei are “touching.”

jol ,

I know that much, but actually how can a force be stronger but short range?

Mycroft ,

The repulsive force is electromagnetism while the attractive force is an exchange of mesons between the atoms.

It is different forces with different ways of interacting on objects.

This is the chatGPT answer I’m basing my answer on:

"The concept of a force being both stronger and short-range might seem counterintuitive at first, but it’s a fundamental aspect of how forces operate in the quantum world, particularly within the nucleus of an atom. The force being referred to here is the strong nuclear force, also known as the strong force or strong interaction, which is one of the four fundamental forces in physics.

The strong nuclear force is indeed much stronger than electromagnetism (the force that repels positively charged protons from each other) but it operates over a very short range. Here’s a more detailed explanation:

  1. Strength: The strong force is the strongest of the four fundamental forces. Its strength ensures that it can overcome the electromagnetic repulsion between protons within the nucleus. Without the strong force, the protons would repel each other and the nucleus would disintegrate.
  2. Range: The strong force only acts over very short distances, approximately 1 femtometer (1 fm, or (10^{-15}) meters), which is roughly the diameter of a large nucleus. Beyond this range, the force drops off very rapidly, becoming negligible compared to electromagnetic forces. This is why atomic nuclei can be stable: within the nucleus, the strong force is dominant and keeps the protons and neutrons together; outside the nucleus, its influence is minimal, so atoms do not “stick” to each other due to the strong force.

The short-range nature of the strong force is due to the mechanism by which it operates, involving the exchange of particles called mesons between nucleons (protons and neutrons). This particle exchange can be thought of as the “glue” that holds the nucleus together, but this “glue” only works over very short distances.

To understand how a force can be both stronger and short-range, it’s helpful to compare it with gravity, which is much weaker but has an infinite range. Gravity affects objects no matter how far apart they are, although its effect diminishes with distance. In contrast, the strong force has a much greater effect but only over a very short range. This difference in behavior is due to the different properties and mechanisms governing these forces. "

Hope this helps, it is not really my domain so maybe someone can ELI5 better for us !

Crackhappy , to nostupidquestions in How does employing a rapist not constitute an unsafe work environment for female employees?
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I hate to say this, but do you know what he’s done to rehabilitate himself? Do you know why he’s allowed to work there? Have you talked to management about what you discovered?

All of your questions are very very leading. Of course we deplore rape. However, despite what you may think, we should all be given a chance to redeem ourselves.

I can understand why you fear for the safety of yourself and others around you. If you do nothing, that is entirely on you. But I do hope that you have compassion and a sense of forgiveness in your heart too. For all you know, you can also be surrounded by thieves and murderers, but none of those are publicly branded.

I urge you to bring this to the management’s attention. Talk to your female coworkers and let them know.

HawlSera ,

The concept of Redemeption is sadly one that barely exists nowadays. While the crime of rape is unforgivable, a wise woman once said “If Hell is forever, then Heaven’s a lie.”

If we don’t let people have a chance to better themselves and prove that they aren’t the monsters they used to be, then we condemn them to return to their most toxic behaviors.

That said, if someone has a history of vile behavior, then it’s best to warn those you feel can minimize his harm or are vulnerable. He needs to be given a chance for redemption and self-betterment, but he can’t be given free reign either.

ParsnipWitch ,

In the absolute majority of rape cases there is no bettering themselves happening because the rapists never face any consequences to begin with.

A_Random_Idiot ,

All of your questions are very very leading. Of course we deplore rape. However, despite what you may think, we should all be given a chance to redeem ourselves.

There are a few crimes that are not forgivable, where you lose all right to any benefit of the doubt and should be labeled as dangerous, suspicious, and existential threat for the rest of your life.

Premeditated Rape is one of those crimes.

Premeditated rape is not a accident. its not a crime of passion. it is a deliberate, multi-step action that result in harming and violating another human being in one of the worst ways possible. There were so many points in which any shred of basic human decency that existed in his body could have asserted itself and changed his course, but it didnt. He followed through multiple steps in the process to follow and ultimately violate and his victim in one of the worst ways a person can harm another human being. Because he is a predator, and a threat.

Regardless of his time in jail, he is a threat. he will always be a threat. There is no one around him that is not at risk.

and worse still, because hes already been caught once, he will have learned… and the chances of the next victim escaping alive are slimmer for it.

There is no redemption arc that can unrape his victim, and erase the threat he poses.

TheBat , to asklemmy in Am I the only software engineer greatly worried and disturbed by AI ?
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not worried about AI replacing employees

I’m worried about managers and bean counters being convinced that AI can replace emplpyees

lagomorphlecture ,

It’ll be like outsourcing all over again. How many companies outsourced then walked back on it several years later and only hire in the US now? It could be really painful short term if that happens (if you consider severeal years to a decade short term).

Rooskie91 ,

Do you know any examples of which companies that have done this? I’m not asking to be fecitiois, just genuinely curious.

lagomorphlecture ,

The one I work for did this years ago before I worked here. I already have enough personal info about myself out there so not gonna name the company lol I know I’ve seen that at other companies too.

teawrecks ,

Given the degree to which first-level customer service is required to stick to a script, I could see over half of call centers being replaced by LLMs over the next 10 years. The second level service might still need to be human, but I expect they could be an order of magnitude smaller than the first tier.

lagomorphlecture ,

They’re supposed to be on script but customers veer off the script constantly. They would be extremely annoyed to be talking to AI. Not that it would stop some companies but it would be terrible customer service.

teawrecks ,

That’s what tier 2 service would be for. But the vast majority of calls are people wanting to execute a simple order or transaction, or ask a silly question they could have googled.

If your problem can be solved by a bot, and it means you can be done immediatelu and don’t need to be on hold for 20m+ waiting for t2 support, you’re going to prefer it.

Also, we’ve come a long way in just 2-3 years. It will be very difficult for us to talk about how good the experience will be in 5-10 years.

knightly ,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

If your problem can be solved by a bot, then an old fashioned touch-tone phone menu would be an entirely sufficient solution, no “AI” needed.

If not, then plugging an LLM into your IVR will never be worth the expense since the customer will need to talk to a human anyway.

“AI” is a bubble. Sure, it might have some niche applications where its viable, but it’s heavily overpromised and due for disinvestment this year.

teawrecks ,

And yet, we don’t use touch-tone menus, bots that suck are already commonplace. An LLM bot could stand to dramatically improve the user experience, and would probably use the same resources that the current bots do.

Simple things like “I want to fill a prescription” or “I want to schedule a technician” or “do you have blah in stock” could be orchestrated by a bot that sounds human, and people would prefer that to traversing a directory tree for 10m.

I don’t even want to think about how someone would implement a customer facing inventory query using a touch-tone interface, let alone use that.

knightly , (edited )
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

I fail to see how adding an LLM to an IVR could improve that situation. Keywords like “fill perscription”, “schedule technician”, and “do you have [blank] in stock” are already present and don’t need any kind of text generation to shunt a caller into the appropriate queue or run a query on a warehouse database.

Where, exactly, do you think an LLM could contribute other than, like, a computer generated bedtime story hotline or something?

teawrecks ,

I fail to see how adding an LLM to an IVR could improve that situation.

Ok. I’m not trying to convince you of anything, nor am I the one responsible for this, I’m just very confident this will inevitably happen. Only time will tell.

knightly ,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

Oh, no question. I’m sure someone will think it’s a good idea and waste a lot of money on it.

lightnsfw ,

I was a supervisor of a call center up until recently and yea, this is definitely coming. It’s was already to the point where they were arguing with me about hiring enough people because soon we’ll have an AI solution to take a lot of the calls. You can already see it in the chat bots coming out.

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Copilot is just so much faster than me at generating code that looks fancy and also manages to maximize the number of warnings and errors.

fievel OP ,

Clearly my main concern… But after reading a lot of reinsuring comments, I’m more and more convinced that human will always be superior

teawrecks ,

That will happen. And if they’re wrong, they’ll crash and burn. That’s how tech bubbles burst.

Artyom , (edited )

This is their only retaliation for the fact that managers have already been replaced by git tools and CI.

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