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legion , to linux in which linux distro do you NOT like, and why?
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

My Linux from Scratch install. It was built by a moron.

RandomVideos ,

You can make an OS in Scratch? I didnt know that

merthyr1831 ,

Linux From Scratch is a series of (online) books that walk you through building up your own linux system from the ground up, from compiling the kernel to all the individual systems that turn the kernel into a functional OS.

It’s meant to be an educational tool to help people learn about what goes into making a Linux distribution and give you better knowledge of how to build software from source. Some people turn these systems into their own distributions or personal (I guess gentoo-like?) Linux installs

jecxjo ,
@jecxjo@midwest.social avatar

Not only can you make your own OS but you can use one of the package managers and build your own repo and do a whole ecosystem yourself.

I used LFS to build a distro for embedded systems I designed at work. Was a fun experience but way too much work.

otl ,
@otl@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s that pesky root user, right? There’s loads of their files on my system. I can’t edit any of them. Don’t know why they are so protective.

darcy , to nostupidquestions in I'm aware of kbin, mastodon, and lemmy. Are there any other federated applications out there?
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar
Peruvian_Skies ,
@Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social avatar

Very neat, thanks for sharing! What do the dotted lines between non-Fediverse protocols and Fediverse platforms represent? Do those platforms use multiple protocols?

ARO3DP ,

Yes. Friendica for example supports Activitypub but also the diaspora protocol

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

Im not sure, I just found it on wikipedia

Salix ,

Do those platforms use multiple protocols?

Yes

Vlhacs ,

What are the common attributes between each app that allows them to be federated with each other? Users, a post with multimedia support (images, links, maybe videos), a comment thread, and what else? Can an app deviate completely from this user/post/comment model and still be federated? Do each app need to manually integrate with another app to be considered federated or is any app using ActivityPub automatically integrated to your app?

rm_dash_r_star ,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

Do each app need to manually integrate with another app to be considered federated or is any app using ActivityPub automatically integrated to your app?

ActivityPub provides the framework, but a platform also has to be designed to support another platform. It’s not automatic.

Salix ,
punkwalrus , to science_memes in Humans didn't invent agriculture
@punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, the Roman Empire was an olive tree superorganism. Prove me wrong.

idiomaddict ,

There’s a Pax Romana/olive branch joke in there somewhere

mojofrododojo ,

“We’re taking your country over. You should produce olives. If not, then grapes. Or like, wheat, I guess. But definitely olives.” - Pax Romana

tiredofsametab ,

I am pretty sure they were sentient, rotting fish guts.

MonkderDritte ,

Like in that sauce the whole mediterran had then?

Agent641 ,

Asafoetida

(Thanks, Max Miller!)

MonkderDritte ,

No, sauce, Asafoetida is a spice (thanks).

Found it, it’s Garum. The juice from salted fermented fish intestines.

SternburgExport , to lemmyshitpost in Real

And it will use as much energy as everything else in the house combined.

Pilferjinx ,

I wonder how true that is. Does it come down to effective insulation? I also thought the old refrigerants were more efficient but really bad for the environment. The only other factor is motor/pump.

Waraugh ,

Compressors are variable and much more efficient. More efficient and variable speed fan motors along with more efficient blade design. Insulation now is drastically better than glass wool of the past. Electronics are able to be integrated in order to provide more fine grain control and overall design has been improved just due to efficiency standards being placed on a bright yellow sticker. In the past design and component choices never really considered efficiency, while efficiency doesn’t always win out it’s a weighted factor and influences the overall engineering and design in ways that just didn’t happen before efficiency regulations came about.

Pilferjinx ,

Nice, it’s super interesting how far we’ve progressed.

jol ,

Insulation tech is better, yes, but also the insulation of a 40 year old fridge is by now totally fucked.

deegeese ,

Please explain how fridge insulation degrades with age.

I would assume it’s made of something chemically stable and protected from the environment by the fridge casing.

jol ,

The doors, rubbers, etc definitely degrade very fast. The walls probably not so fast, but the casing also gets beaten up.

deegeese ,

Rubber seals wear out yes, but how does painted steel, unless the fridge is at the bottom of a lake?

Aux , (edited )

appliance-standards.org/…/how-your-refrigerator-h…

Here’s a good article. From 1970-s to 2014 power use of refrigerators decreased by 4 times. My modern European fridge only uses 270kWh per year, which is even further decrease.

You really do not want to still use a fridge from 1970-s.

Edit: changed Wh to kWh.

gareins ,

Nooo, thats a couple of mW, no way. Maybe its a typo and you neant daily with a bit more than 10W power, even that is fairly low. The last time I measured ours it was about 30W average… (also europe, about 10yo)

Aux ,

That’s a typo, my bad. Fixed my comment.

MoistCircuits0698 ,

I think you meant 270kWH instead of 270WH.

Aux ,

Yes, my bad.

dialtone , to showerthoughts in Dial Tone

I will never be silenced!

disguy_ovahea ,

I’ve been meaning to ask, has anyone ever told you your F is a tad sharp for equal temperament? I’m not suggesting you change. I think your clean beat frequency makes you pretty cool just the way you are.

sukhmel ,

I first read it

has anyone ever told you F

And thought it was going to be a joke continuing OP’s thought 🫡

mPony ,

I thought we were paying respects to the fallen dial tone

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Did you… join during the Rexodus and wait all this time just for this joke? 🤣 (if there is a more mundane explanation, I don’t want to know - I prefer this one:-)

Lost_My_Mind ,

I’m so angry today, that I didn’t even catch the joke. It wasn’t until I was making my own reply of confusion that I needed to copy the username of who said that, that I realized their name was /u/dialtone

Then I got their joke. I still don’t know what a Rexodus is though.

Confused_Emus ,

Rexodus - portmanteau of Reddit exodus

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Have you lost your mind!? Hehe, I could not resist doing it again:-P.

Rexodus = Reddit Exodus. Lemmy is several years old (>5), Kbin is newer (3.5 years?), and Mbin is a fork off of the Kbin code - the latter two being different code that both implement the ActivityPub (snooze… bored yet?:-P). Anyway, when the CEO of Reddit, Huffman (platform username: spez) pissed off a bunch of users, content creators, and 3rd party app devs, a lot of us came over here to the Fediverse at that time. And Rexodus is one of the names - the top one iirc - that we call that event that prompted us to leave there. It may lose all meaning soon again, i.e. when Reddit kills off the old.reddit access there will be another such migration wave, possibly larger than the first, and surely there were past such waves as well, but for now it means the time of the protests, so roughly one year ago. Which is also roughly the age of that person’s account.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Oh. I came here a month ago because reddit took their IPO public, and within about 2 months, I had 3 different bans for 3 different comments. None of which were remotely offensive. This on a 10+ year old account that never had issues before the talks of IPO. In 2021 they even awarded me as being the 1% of top karma earners for the whole site.

One of the comments on reddit that I got banned for 3 days was “Awwwww, what a cute kitty!!!” on /r/aww. It was flagged for “Bullying and harassment” by a bot, and supposedly reviewed by a human on appeal who still agreed with the bot. Which is how I know that humans are not reviewing the human reviewed appeals.

And they were all similar to that in different subreddits… With the 3rd one banning me outright a month ago.

You know what WAS all over my account though? Absurdist humor. Probably 90% of my account was nothing but absurdist humor. You know, the kind of comments that a HUMAN would have no offense over, but an AI bot may not be able to identify as not being serious.

The kind of comments that would result in glue as a pizza topping. Not that I’m responsible for that exact fiasco, but my comments might cause an AI to create a similar situation. I’m sure before all these bans came, my name was predesignated for ban as my account would muddy their whole plans of selling real people’s comments to google for AI training.

I mean one of my comments was “WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH WAH! WAH! WAH!” because somebody had mentioned Wario (from nintendo). What’s an AI supposed to do with that? What are you, the Lemmy user reading this, supposed to do with that comment without context? But in regards to that exact post? It made sense and was a funny joke…well, I thought it was funny anyways. It only got 10 upvotes.

So as they try to turn a profit on reddit, they will absolutely alienate their audience. This is ALREADY a disaster…but it kind of feels like 8:48am on 9/11. The second plane hadn’t hit yet. There was already one disaster, but there was still a bunch more disasters to come that would continue to keep happening for years to come. That’s where reddit is right now. 8:48am. If they kill old.reddit.com, that will be 8:56am (I think?).

And the worst part is, it’s all self inflicted. Selling reddit user data to train AIs is just immediately the worst idea I can think of. It’s reddit. Have you SEEN what gets talked about there??? Do you know what a cum shoebox is? I do. I wish I didn’t. But I look forward to the day it’s somehow misused by AI and reccomends people buy Nike for their own cum shoebox. It’ll be especially funny because while 90% of the reddit userbase knows what a cum shoebox is, I’d say only 10% of society does. Coincidently enough, that 10% are also reddit users. I cannot WAIT for the news stories, where they have to dance around what happened, and how to report it without saying the word “cum”.

OpenStars , (edited )
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

(a) a cum shoebox seems an awesome name for an alt account btw…😵

(b) though I’ve never heard of that phrase before - life is better here, without Reddit. Obligatory “fuck spez”.

(c) abso-fucking-lutely everything else. The mods and app devs and highest-contributors saw all of that coming, more so than the regular userbase, as too did the techie Linux crowd who actually knew about AI stuff. More than 9/11 (where at the time we legit did not know about the other plane) it’s like a tough guy walks into a bar and stares another tough guy in one of those movie scenes, and the music starts playing - the best time to have left was 5 minutes ago, the second best time is NOW, and if you wait for the whole area to erupt in violence, then it’s too late for you, who will get caught up in the crossfire.

Spez was trying to follow in Elon Musk’s footsteps, except even as dumb as Elon is, some of that actually made sense… for Twitter/X, which was a publicly traded company going private at the time (which it did succeed at), but then spez pulled a double stupidity by trying to do the same, for a private company trying to go public - it’s not the same at all, especially in reverse like that!!?! Elon totally played his rival spez, who fell for it hook, line, & sinker - and took all of Reddit along for the ride. Now, spez will never become a billionaire like he planned, but also, the hard work of people who built up Reddit - people who created those subs, and filled it with content, is gone. Some of it came here, some went to Mastodon or X, most of it seemed to go literally nowhere as people are just swearing off “social media” altogether now. So all their knowledge, all those skills, all the shitposts and jokes, they say it to their irl family but we no longer get to hear it too. spez killed it all.

We have our mass-comnunity-banning Nazis here too but they are few and far between, mostly only in the political communities (in Reddit it’s “subs”, here it’s “communities” -> ngl I still have to stop myself from saying the former:-P), and at least are humans rather than actual fucking bots. Bots wouldn’t even be so bad, if they actually worked, and if they were honest about using them - “bot overlords” should become a phrase, it might even already be!:-P

The Fediverse is different here than there - e.g. you end up not in niche communities so much as generic ones, just to get enough content - but virtually all of us like it better. You can always use both for awhile if you aren’t sure, but people mostly tend to be friendlier here (some very noticeable exceptions aside - btw you may want to block the instances hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and lemmy.ml - unless you want to troll them and that can be fun too I guess:-P), and importantly the people here are actual human beings! (I guess you’ve heard the thing where Reddit posts the identical posts, with every comment inside of it word for word, to try to fake higher traffic stats) There are bots here too but clearly labeled as such.

Enjoy! I for one look forward to seeing shitposts from you!:-D

JasonDJ ,

I’m waiting for the day that Gemini shittymorphs me.

cedarmesa ,
@cedarmesa@lemmy.world avatar

Rexxit

Lost_My_Mind ,

I kinda like that one. Lets use that.

voltaric , to nostupidquestions in If we can ban trans medical procedures, why haven't we banned circumcision?

There is a lot of misinformation in this post. Here’s a snippet of my research about the anatomy of the penis and the damage of circumcision causes.

The foreskin has specialized nerve endings called Meissner’s Corpsucles located at the tip in an area called the ridged band. It is connected to the penis by the extension of the shaft skin in areas called the outer foreskin and the inner foreskin. The inner foreskin is rich with sensory receptors and is a inner mucosa similar to the inside of our cheeks. It keeps the glans moist and protected from the environment. The inner foreskin is attached to the head of the penis by a membrane called the frenulum. The frenulum is an erogenous zone that is mostly removed by a circumcision procedure.

When a child or baby is circumcised, the foreskin is forcibly removed from the glans which scars and damages the glans. The foreskin is adhered to the glans like a fingernail. When a boy hits puberty the foreskin naturally retracts. In rare cases, phimosis happens which is when the foreskin is unable to retract. Non-surgical solutions to phimosis are stretching the foreskin over a span of time and/or applying steroid creme.

Circumcision is extremely painful for babies and children. Cortisol spikes in babies when they are circumcised. Babies will pass out during the procedure as many circumcisions are done with inadequate anesthetic.

The foreskin is self-cleaning like the vagina. Rinsing in the shower is enough usually for hygiene. Caregivers who retract the foreskin of their children will damage the child’s genitals. The only person who should retract the foreskin is the children as it will naturally retract with age. Some boys are unable to retract their foreskin until their late teens or early adulthood.

This information is not foreign to the medical world. Most medical and political professionals have a bias for the circumcision ritual. Circumcision is the same for boys as it is for girls as the objective of circumcision is to harm the sexual function of the child.

Modern circumcision for males is extremely harsh as it removes 60-80% of penile skin. Many men do not have frenulums from the procedure. It is possible to repair some of the damage by using mitosis to restore skin coverage. It is not currently possible to repair tissue that was completely removed. Foregen is a non-profit researching ways to completely repair the damage caused by circumcision.

For men impacted by this and want to do something for themselves

  • Look into foreskin restoration
  • Donate to foregen

Warning that this topic draws a lot of insane people with genital mutilation fetishes. Any of the comments advocating for circumcision are either men who were circumcised against their will, women who circumcised their children and haven’t accepted the truth, or weirdos who want others to suffer.

pinchcramp ,
@pinchcramp@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thank you so much for writing this up. I really appreciate the detailed post.

Most medical and political professionals have a bias for the circumcision ritual.

I think it’s important to point out that this bias is mostly cultural. In many countries where ritual infant circumcision is the exception instead of the norm, medical personnel do not have a bias towards RIC.

Foreskin restoration is legit (even if it may sound crazy like regrowing limbs). I know we collectively dislike Reddit on here, but the subreddit /r/foreskin_restoration has a really supportive and welcoming community and a lot of resources about how to get started (check their wiki).

actionjbone , to nostupidquestions in What kind of a gift can you give your teacher out of respect, but that doesn’t get mistaken for romance?

A greeting card with a note about how she helped you.

Material gifts will get used up and thrown out over time. But she’ll collect notes and letters from her students over the years, and they will help remind her why she’s teaching.

Lemjukes ,

This, and if you really really wanna put a monetary gift in there, get them a gift card for coffee(go local fuck Starbucks) or honestly somewhere like target that sells school supplies. It’s a bit orphan crushing machine but they may really appreciate the extra cash for supplies.

intensely_human ,

A gift card for school supplies is a great idea

z00s ,

This. I’m a teacher, and I have about a thousand gift mugs stuck in a closet, but I will hang on to that raggedy half torn post it note that says, “Thank you Mr. [Name] for helping me :)” literally until the day I die.

In my desk, I have a special folder full of notes from students that I look at when I have a bad day.

We don’t do it for the money, we do it to help you have a better life. So when students tell us we helped, the feeling is incredible.

If you want to make sure it doesn’t get mistaken for romantic feelings, just think, “Would I feel weird saying this to my Aunt/Uncle?” while writing it.

Some potential sentence starters:

What I appreciated most about being in your class was…

One time you really helped me was when…

Something you really helped me understand was…

The one thing you should never stop doing in class is…

Whatever you write, your teacher will love it :)

Moghul , to asklemmy in What quotes from children's media went hard as hell for no reason?

“I see now that the circumstances of one’s birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are.” - Mewtwo

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted ,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

As a trans person, this has always been one of my favorite fiction quotes.

darth_helmet , to technology in What DID Apple innovate?

The graphical user interface.

They don’t invent it (xerox PARC did), but Apple correctly identified that the user experience of existing computer systems was holding it back from being a thing everyone owns, and made computers a bad fit for many types of work that seem extremely obvious now (digital media creation particularly)

They did this more or less again with the smartphone: business folks and super nerds were the smartphone market before Apple. Now it’s the average person’s computer.

simple ,

The graphical user interface.

A million times this. Not only did they popularize the ideas, but MacOS’s UI design was so ahead of its time that it’s barely changed since then. It was by far the most polished operating system at the time. Old Apple actually was innovating while the market was kind of stagnant.

MacOS Leopard screenshot

This screenshot was in 2007. The competition was Windows Vista. It’s a night and day difference. I had this version of the iMac at the time and was super impressed, even if I did switch back to Windows a couple of years later. Looking back at it, it still looks quite “modern”.

Hyperreality ,

I feel old.

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Time to schedule your colonoscopy gramps

BigDaddySlim ,
@BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve got an '08 iMac with this version of MacOS, El Capitan I believe. Going from that to my 2019 M1 MBP running Sonoma is really no different. Sure there’s features missing but I can still sync my notes and the few other Apple things I actually use between the two.

Plus my iPods can still sync with both devices, they just moved iPod into Finder in the new versions.

DJDarren ,

It still blows my mind that Apple are so happy to drop OS support on iPhones and iPads that are considered too old, but I can still sync my 4th gen iPod with my M2 Air. There’s damn near 20 years between those two devices, but aside from needing a USB A>C dongle, they work together without any trouble.

jsh ,

Well, I will say it’s a little different. Your iPod doesn’t get software updates or apps. From a functional standpoint it’s about as supported as any old iPhone or iPad is.

DJDarren ,

Yes, that’s very true.

It does make me laugh when it tells me that my iPods’ various softwares are up to date, and that it’ll check again next time. You can check, but you’ll not find anything…

Cort ,

Just to piggy back on this comment, OSX was released before 9/11 and windows XP, so Microsoft was still selling Windows ME at the time! Aside from the desktop backgrounds looked very similar.

yesdogishere ,

Wrong wrong wrong. Macontoshs gui was crap and buggy as hell. Every seasoned it expert knew it was a shit lousy interface designed to dupe people into believing it was secure when in fact it proliferated viruses and security holes, and drove the control of computing into an avaricious humanity destroying company culture known as apple. DO NOT EVER PROMOTE THE GUI AS GOOD. ITS CRAP.

simple ,

buggy as hell

No it wasn’t

viruses and security holes

That has nothing to do with GUI

520 ,

No it wasn’t

OSX 10.0 in general actually was. Jobs offered 10.1 for free as an apology, and it fixed a lot of things.

rottingleaf ,

Well, KDE3 could look cool too.

I’ll admit, back then I really wanted a Mac.

Just after trying to use them a few times I know that behavior is more important than appearance on screenshots. Also such looks exhaust you emotionally.

theodewere ,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

and i think in general, their attempt to really focus on user experience first always seemed to define their business.. trying to make things that people would WANT to use was what made Jobs and Apple stand out.. other brands were better known for performance, for example..

AA5B ,

Exactly. They innovated

  • a GUI that people wanted to use and ushered in a new era of computer guys
  • several times a personal computer it laptop that people wanted to use and set new standards for others to follow
  • personal music devices that worked so well they set the standard.
  • a phone that just works and set many standards for other phones to follow
  • an App Store that set standards for usability and security, and set a high bar for others to follow
  • a mobile payment system that’s secure and private, and set a standard for the industry to follow
  • shared resources and config across devices and family members, setting new standards for usability and convenience

I could probably go on for a while. The thing is that everything in tech is an iteration: almost nothing is completely new. Apple has consistently applied design and usability to revolutionize many different areas of tech. It is true innovation with real change and huge impact

Brkdncr ,

The iPod wasn’t very special. Lots of competitors in that space.

Their phone wasn’t very special. It lacked a lot of features like enterprise email for 1-2 years. It was also slow and locked to a slow carrier in the US for that time.

They managed to sell it though. Their ads and marketing is always been great even if the devices weren’t.

DJDarren ,

Lots of competitors in that space.

Sure, but none of them in such a small size with such a relatively big capacity, and certainly none that were as easy to use and easy to sync. Apple absolutely rewrote the book on how a portable music player should be, then did it all over again with the iPhone.

Brkdncr ,

Creative had an mp3 player that was small and had large capacity. I think they released ahead of the iPod. There were a lot of mp3 players in this space and Apple didn’t rewrite anything.

Windows media player had all of the same features as iTunes.

The Nokia n95 was a better phone than the iPhone in every comparison in 2007. If Apple did anything, they ignored how slow 2g/2.5g speeds were, and how cumbersome touchscreen keyboards were and marketed it as a better device. I think a few other companies tried this too but got out-marketed by Apple.

olympicyes ,

Windows Media Player 9 only ripped CDs to WMA files because it didn’t include a licensed mp3 encoder. It didn’t support MP3 ripping directly until WMP10 in 2004.

DJDarren ,

Prior to the first iPod, Creative’s only hard drive based portables were the Nomads, both of which were roughly the same size as a portable CD player, and heavier. Don’t get me wrong, they were cool, but they were literally twice the size of an iPod.

In '03, two years after the first iPod came along, Creative released the Zen, which was a similar physical size to the iPod. It was nowhere near as cool to use an an iPod, and was nowhere near as beautifully designed.

There were a lot of mp3 players in this space and Apple didn’t rewrite anything.

There were, and they all used some kind of low capacity removable storage. You can shout and holler all you like, but the fact is that Apple were the first company to make a pocketable, high capacity (for the time) music player. As with so many other of their products, they didn’t invent the market, but they refined it down to something that people would rush out to buy, or wish they could afford.

The Nokia n95 was a better phone than the iPhone in every comparison in 2007

Yeah, I get where you’re coming from. The N95 was a beast of a phone. But don’t forget that Nokia had been banging out phones for 20 years by that point, they’d nailed their market and knew a thing or two. The first iPhone was Apple’s first foray into the market, and while the thing wasn’t perfect (only had GPRS/Edge, no apps, limited features, weird headphone jack) it hit the ground running and was a platform for bigger things. Apple innovated.

And yeah, touchscreen keyboards were cumbersome. On resistive screen phones. I remember using an iPod touch shortly after they came out, and was blown away by how much better the keyboard was on that beautiful capacitive screen, and how shoddy my HTC Kaiser felt by comparison.

dpkonofa ,

This is a very ignorant take. MP3 players before the iPod sucked for most people. Obtaining music that was properly tagged or ripping CDs with command-line apps was out of reach for the majority of people.

Saying that the iPhone wasn’t special is also crazy. The best-selling smartphone of all time wasn’t special?

Unbelievable…

Brkdncr ,

At the time of release it it wasn’t. Palm was better. Blackberry had advantages in data speed and email. The iPhone couldn’t take advantage of its browser because of how slow mobile internet was.

The iPod at release was up against a number of players that were nearly identical.

Apple marketed its products better than everyone else, and by 2008 had definitely come up with winning products, but to say its stuff was unique or better at release is revisionist history.

dpkonofa ,

Nonsense. Palm was not better. I sold Palm, Treo, and Blackberry phones at the time and the sudden drop in confidence was palpable. Your second statement is completely wrong too. The entire difference between the iPhone was that it didn’t use mobile web. Safari was a desktop-class browser, unlike the others (minus Flash, obviously). Even Windows devices like PocketPCs didn’t have full browsers.

Again, the iPod statement is just flat-out false. The alternatives at the time were Walkman devices, Creative Labs devices, and devices from Diamond, and crap like the RCA Kazoo. All of them had tiny LCD displays, 256MB of memory max, and transferred music like glorified flash drives. Tags had to be managed manually. Playlists weren’t a thing unless you created them in separate software. There was nothing “identical” about them.

Steve Jobs pulling out a 5GB iPod from his pocket broke the industry and started the whole market, changing the field from a niche for nerds into music for everyone. On top of that, it started the podcast revolution and that is undeniable. To say that it wasn’t unique or better is revisionist history.

Brkdncr ,

You don’t remember how slow the iPhone browsing experience was when it came out? Speeds were capped at 128knps. Or how bad AT&T was in providing bandwidth? Granted other phones besides blackberry had bandwidth issues too, but 2007-2008 was effectively not usable without wifi. It wasn’t until iPhones could work on Verizon’s network that mobile iPhone browsers were usable.

Large capacity mp3 players existed when the iPod came out. Comparing the iPod to the cheap, low-capacity ones is disingenuous.

Granted, the market needed a kick in the ass and Apple did do that, but it’s not like they were the only ones doing it.

IWantToFuckSpez ,

Jobs really wanted to make tech usable for the mainstream. Just look at the first iPod all the other MP3 players at the time were for the geeks and music nerds. They were clunky, had ugly geek esthetics and the software was hard to use for most people. And the non techies had no idea where to get mp3s. The iPod together with the iTunes Store really sold the MP3 player to the masses.

yesdogishere ,

Wrong wrong wrong. It was never about ease of use. It was always about taking control away from the user, and hiding authority for control. This kind of deceptive practice has led to what we gave today - cars selling subscription hearing seats. The truth is, the gui was always buggy and a product unfit for its purpose from day one. Apple sold it as a means to get consumers to accept a defective product from the start, perpetuating their ability to always sell updates, forcing consumers to pay for things THEY DO NOT NEED.

yesdogishere ,

Wrong wrong wrong. The graphical user interface is crap and will always be crap. The whole matter of popularity is marketing bunkum. Console command interface was al ways faster and better than any gui for general computing tasks. The gui is fine for office tasks, but shit for everything else. The popularity of the gui today has driven a massive upscale of cruddy bloated virus infected software. The fact that most people now only know gui has meant that control of viruses has slipped away. Had console commands been the mainstay for computing, viruses and security holes would never have been allowed to proliferate as they do today.

DuckOverload ,

Bud, you sound like a technophile geek. The kind of person who custom built his own computer. You’re not the target customer. Apple builds products for people that don’t care about technology, they just care about what the technology does and want it to be easy and seamless. And that is a vast majority of the people.

QuarterSwede ,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

Bingo. Apple builds appliances.

PrMinisterGR ,

I built my own computer but as a working laptop there is nothing close to a decked out MacBook Pro. Yes, I’m aware of the price, but my company paid it, and it was a good choice from every angle.

maxprime , (edited )

The first virus was made in 1986 for IBM personal computers. Nothing is free from computer viruses. Not macOS, not iOS, not Android, not GNU/Linux, not freeBSD, not even an IBM PC from the 80s. All software can be exploited. The only reason GUI software is the most exploited is because it is what people use. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_(computer_virus)

GUI is not only intended for office tasks. In fact, I would argue that many office tasks are better suited for command line, but I’ll agree that nobody knows how to do that anymore.

GUI was always best suited for artists. Apple has, for a long time, especially since OSX, been explicit about catering to artists. Can you imagine editing video in a terminal? Or editing a layered image? Or producing music?

DJDarren ,

Can you imagine editing video in a terminal? Or editing a layered image? Or producing music?

I genuinely can’t. How atrocious would that be?

olympicyes ,

telnet telehack.com

Then run starwars

On Mac: nc -c telehack.com

simple ,

Let me guess, you use arch?

darth_helmet ,

If this guy isn’t rolling his own distro he’s basically a scrub like the rest of us.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@kbin.social avatar

While you may be correct I think you're still missing the point. CLI is for super nerds. While you and I may know how to use it, the average person doesn't, and is unlikely to put in the effort to learn. That is the innovation that Apple made in bringing computing to the mainstream. It was precisely because people didn't have to learn how to navigate the CLI environment and instead got an easy point-and-click interface that computers caught on with the public at large, and that gained Apple an absolute ton of cash money and noteriety.

luthis ,

Awww… I’m a supernerd? Thank yoooooou ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

I always considered myself to be kind of an average run-of-the-mill nerd.

olympicyes ,

OS X has a decent terminal app and has zsh included as default shell. Mac OS 9 effectively had no CLI at all.

someguy3 ,

They don’t invent it (xerox PARC did), but Apple correctly identified that the user experience of existing computer systems was holding it back

Fucking everyone except Xerox BOD figured that out.

CubbyTustard , to asklemmy in What could happen if you would just walk into a police station and say: I want to turn myself in and I take the 5th.

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    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    I plead the fifth

    yanyuan OP ,

    Good question. There are probably some constellations where the police would be like: We got plenty of matching testimonies for you. We charge you and this could send you to jail for 80 years or you pleat guilty and accept 5 years.

    On the other hand, I think in Germany you could be charged with pretending to have committed a crime.

    Criminal Code (StGB) § Section 145d Pretending to have committed a criminal offense

    (1) Any person who, contrary to his better knowledge, pretends to an authority or to a body competent to receive reports that an unlawful act has been committed […] shall be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty […].

    vzq ,

    That’s just filling a false report. That’s illegal almost anywhere, but you need to be more specific than what’s in the post.

    electrogamerman ,

    but then the person wouldn’t been lying about having committed a crime

    Feathercrown ,

    submit report saying I violated this law

    instant “this sentence is false”-style paradox

    legal system implodes. Complete anarchy takes over

    yanyuan OP ,

    :D If this thread reaches the wrong people, society as we know it will end! What have we done!?

    NorthWestWind ,
    @NorthWestWind@lemmy.world avatar

    In Lego City

    Feathercrown ,

    A LEMMING HAS POSED A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION IN LEGO CITY

    FeetinMashedPotatoes ,

    HEY!

    ryan , to asklemmy in What are the worst names you could give a baby boy?

    Bob, short for Bobert. So that every time he has to say his full name to anyone on the phone or fill out forms somewhere, he has to repeatedly explain that, no, it's not Robert, it's Bobert.

    KISSmyOS ,

    Best one so far

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    Extra points if you tell him it’s because of Lauren Boebert, the classiest woman to walk this earth.

    /s

    bradorsomething ,

    Ted, get off of Lemmy.

    burgersc12 ,

    Ngl i have considered calling every Rob/Bob i know Bobert, but i like this idea better

    root_beer ,

    I knew someone who did that to me in high school. I hated him, for many reasons, mind, but that was one. I hated him enough to be almost glad his wife died. Not that I am, and nothing against her, just… fuck him.

    I’ve been called Bert by one guy, and sometimes I wonder if I should have run with that. Another guy would call me Rootbeer. I was totally fine with that, as you can see.

    BananaPeal ,
    @BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Tombert.

    TheBananaKing ,

    You monster.

    Jinn ,

    Robert with a B

    Odelay42 , to asklemmy in What opinion could get you massively cancelled in 1923 and 1823?

    Trans rights are human rights

    Gay rights are human rights

    Black peoples rights are human rights

    Women’s rights are human rights

    Human rights exist.

    luthis ,

    These will still get you cancelled in 2023 in some countries.

    Odelay42 ,

    Correct

    shinigamiookamiryuu ,

    Conversely, there were countries even back then that supported all these things. The Iroquois Confederacy was famous for giving women virtually all the power (except for running for office), and Japan had LGBT accomodations (and interracial respect, albeit with some skepticism) going back centuries.

    luthis ,

    This is the history I want to learn more about!!

    shinigamiookamiryuu ,

    Which one?

    luthis ,

    Anything that is embracing diversity/women’s rights/trans rights/etc. Sounds like a really interesting culture.

    shinigamiookamiryuu ,

    There are other places that come close to those. For example, the ancient Greeks had LGBT acceptance, as ordained by the gods, albeit from a very male-centric point of view. Nevertheless, Iroquois history is what you’ll find fulfills that, and as someone who has been exposed to their culture for a while, I can offer a bit of insight.

    The rulers, which always ruled in consensus groups of five or six, were always male, as was three out of four of the founders of their government (Deganawida, Hiawatha, Atotarho, and Jigonsasee who was the female whose idea it was), but the voters (because it was a democracy that surpassed any other democratically) were always female, and most rights centered around us, including divorce (a woman could simply walk out of a household if she wanted), and goddesses took center stage.

    They even went so far as to say civilization was founded once before Deganawida founded it, by a female founder called Godasiyo, but her pet doggo caused a civil war as doggos do, and after her last ditch attempts at saving the kingdom failed, she turned into a fish in shame.

    Tar_alcaran ,

    "Trans isn’t a word. Everyone has a right to be gay, jolly and happy or whatever synonym you want to use."

    • someone from 1823, when “gay” meant “cheerful”.
    LegionEris ,

    Maybe he means trans-Atlantic rights?

    thebardingreen ,
    @thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

    “I say there can be no justice, so long as the sodomites are not allowed to practice love as they will!”

    intensely_human ,

    canceled

    funkless_eck ,

    Poland, Warsaw (then had separate legal systems), The Netherlands, Bavaria, the Dominican Republic and El Salvador all decriminalized same sex relationships in the 1810s and 20s. So it wasn’t exactly all completely dead-against.

    teawrecks ,

    "If I could but play the advocate of the devil’s for but a moment; does not an educated person, who hast accrued more whelth, hencewheretofore demonstrated a more explicit display of personhood?"

    • an edgelord/temporarily embarrassed thousand-aire of the time, probably.
    ItsTom87 , to nostupidquestions in Is there a title (Mr/Ms/Mrs) that is gender neutral?

    M'theydy

    BackOnMyBS OP ,
    @BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

    🎩

    🧔

    ickplant , to asklemmy in What is your "inexpensive" hobby that turned out to be expensive/ you gradually invested lots of money into?
    @ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

    Knitting. Super cheap to start, you can pick up a set of needles and some acrylic yarn for under $20. But when you start getting into nice yarns and bigger pieces, you are spending hundreds of dollars on yarn alone for a blanket or a sweater. And you want nice needles in all sizes as well as all types (double pointed, regular and circular)… more hundreds of dollars.

    Moral of the story is if a friend knits you something with nice yarn, please appreciate it. Lots of effort and thought went into it.

    DharmaCurious ,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    I really, really love knitting. I’m not good, and I have a hard time finishing projects (tragic case of batterscain. I jump from thing to thing.), but the actual knitting itself? OMG, I love having something to do with my hands, and that something actual makes a real, tangible thing? Somehow magically out of a ball of string? What‽ It’s lovely.

    It’s insane, though, how people who don’t knit/crochet will just treat a knitted or crocheted item like it’s a cheap Walmart graphic tee. They do not respect the work put into it.

    HUMAN_TRASH ,

    Nice interrobang usage

    DharmaCurious ,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    Thank you for noticing!

    MrsDoyle ,

    Yeah. I knitted gorgeous socks and scarves in hand-dyed merino for some good friends. Come Christmas they obviously thought, oh MrsDoyle likes knitting, let’s get her something knitting related! A selection of the cheapest, nastiest acrylic in hideous colours and some needles. Oooooh. Thank you so much.

    Project_Straylight ,

    Yeah protip never buy a hobbyist anything unless they tip you what they want.

    balderdash9 ,

    Yep. I’m into fountain pens, and I’ve received cheap feather dip pens on two separate occasions. Didn’t have the heart to tell em.

    DharmaCurious ,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    Ouch… Yeah. As a general rule of thumb, if I’m buying someone something craft related it’s either because I know enough about the craft to get them something truly nice, or I get them a gift card to their favorite craft related place. Outside of that, I’ll just ask them what they want. Lol. I enjoy a bunch of different crafts, including wood working. A friend once got me a set of chisels when they found out I liked wood working. … They were plastic with just the very ends being metal, and would break if you looked at the harshly. Lol. The thought behind it was sweet, but they had no idea what they were doing. Lol.

    MrsDoyle ,

    The story had a bit of a happy ending - I paired the yarn and needles with a “learn to knit” book, and donated it to a raffle a club I belong to was holding. The winner of the kit was thrilled!

    DharmaCurious ,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    Oh that’s an awesome idea!

    We’ve been discussing the need to get some of our yarn to a new home. There’s so much, and it’s just never going to be used as there’s just literally too much.

    hsl ,
    @hsl@wayfarershaven.eu avatar

    Knitting is expensive for me because I love to start projects but I’m not great at finishing them. Good quality yarn really isn’t cheap.

    ickplant ,
    @ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

    Weaving in the ends is the devil. I hate finishing, but I really enjoy starting 😭

    MrsDoyle ,

    Oh yes. Yes. I went to the Edinburgh Yarn Festival a few years back. I live nearby, but met people there who’d come from all over - Europe, Japan, the US. All three days sold out. The yarns were so beautiful! And oh so expensive. But you were there in person, fan-girling with you favourite dyers and pattern designers! Spend spend spend. The nearest cash machine ran dry. Such an expensive hobby. But I can’t stop.

    Hepco ,

    Just started crocheting, and I’m just holding myself back from buying all the yarn, it’s gonna get bad

    ickplant ,
    @ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

    Whatever you do, don’t go looking for yarn on Etsy. Fuck, I’ve said too much.

    MrsDoyle ,

    TOO LATE.

    ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

    My mom knits and she spends way more time unraveling thrift store finds to salvage the yarn than she does actually knitting stuff.

    Treatyoself ,

    I’ve found my people… as I cry into this shawl project on my lap, of merino fingering yarn I paid to have imported because “you want to support small yarn producers” telling myself, “it’s not soft enough. Just throw it away and buy that cashmere/silk blend that you know feels like butter.” 🫠

    EuroNutellaMan , to asklemmy in What is an absurdity that has been normalized by society?
    @EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

    Ads being everywhere.

    CorrodedCranium ,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    I have so many measures in place to block them whenever I do see them it always catches me off guard. The volume of them is ridiculous

    FredericChopin_ ,

    I want to block the ones irl. You know the billboard and stuff

    CorrodedCranium ,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    It’s going to be a weird time when we hit that level of tech with AR

    Rai ,

    Fuck billboards so very much.

    Rai ,

    I heavily support any gas station that doesn’t have fucking video ads blasting at every pump.

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