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GreatDong3000 , to mildlyinfuriating in I’ve been locked out of PayPal for years because of their mistake

What is the use case for PayPal in the US? Here in Brazil we pay everything with credit card or bank transfer with a QR code. People can transfer money to you from any bank 24/7 instantaneously with just your email or phone number without any fees. Is that different in the US?

Showroom7561 ,

What is the use case for PayPal in the US?

It gives businesses a very easy to way to set up monthly payments, one-time donations, accept forms of payments other than e-transfer (which many people don’t want to use), allows for international purchases without being penalized, and more.

Other options are available, but they are neither easy/cheap/convenient for the business or any better for the customer.

GreatDong3000 ,

I see. From that list the international purchases is a good reason to use PayPal in Brazil. I only have an account there because like 6 years ago I needed to pay for a TOEFL certification and without an international card the only way was PayPal so it worked pretty nicely. Never had to use it after that tho. Hope you guys get a better alternative so PayPal can die a horrible death.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

The banking system in the US is a legacy mess. Transfers still take business days to go through and making your bank account # and routing information available is actually a security concern, honestly I don’t even know why that’s still a thing.

Products like PayPal and Plaid try to provide something that is slightly more usable, but with this underlying obsolescence their functionality is very limited.

When paying for services, credit cards are still the way to do it. For P2P payments, people use PayPal, Venmo, Cash App, and others. Nothing even close to a unified system like Pix in Brazil.

Reverendender ,

There is Zelle, which is instant bank to bank. It’s fairly widely available from one’s financial institution, and it doesn’t cost anything, but it’s not terribly well known yet for some reason

intensely_human ,

They named it after gazelle, which is a herd prey animal. That causes it to slip away from attention when it’s mentioned.

If they’d called in Bonko or something it would stand out in people’s memories more. Bonko, bright orange icon, it would spread by wildfire. Nobody would forget that name.

There are no hard consonants in the word. Synaesthetically, it’s a blue-purple word. Cool, muted. It’s a word that, even before the “gazelle” reference, is hiding there. Your mind slips over it without friction. It enters and leaves your mouth and your mind like a fish passing under the sparkling water, nearly unnoticed.

Terrible brand name. I mean, it does convey a little more safety than “Bonko” but the whole point with the unsafe sounding name is it causes the person to consciously ask “How safe is it?” and if you can answer that immediately with “Safer than Ft Knox” then it becomes part of the brand consciously.

Zelle is non-threatening, but that’s not the same thing as safe when it comes to business or finances.

What’s a good safe, energetic, competent, orange word for this service? Hmm. Bonus points if it’s intuitively self-descriptive.

How about “Paytag”. It’s yellow but whatever. Still might not be better than Bonko.

ilega_dh ,

I want some of whatever you’re on

intensely_human ,

Bonko me $20 and I’ll send you some

hex ,

Trango

intensely_human ,

There you fuckin go, that’s perfect!

Except it could be forgotten after just being heard once.

It’s a beautiful word. Gorgeously orange. With just a hint of collapsing chocolate cake.

Trango 👈👈

SirEDCaLot ,

Zelle works pretty good, the main problem is the security limits.
Let’s say you hire somebody to build a shed for $5,000.
You can’t just pay him $5,000. The first day maybe you can pay him $1,000, then the next day you can pay him another $1,500, then you’ve reached the 30-day maximum for a new contact so you have to wait till day 31 to pay him the other $2,500. After that if you want another shed you can pay the $5,000 instantly.

Cryophilia ,

Zelle blacklisted me for similar reasons as this guy lol

fishpen0 ,

I had a landlord make me pay them in zelle. Bank limits meant I had to pay them over 3 days every month. What a mess

atrielienz ,

It is until you end up having to blacklist zelle because your banking information was used to defraud someone. I actually had my account broken into, funds deposited from zelle and then all available funds removed from my account in the space of about an hour. Went to pay for something the day after and had to call my bank’s fraud department. They tried the same thing with a second account of mine but it was flagged immediately when they tried to use the same login credentials (they weren’t remotely the same). So no zelle for me. It’s permanently disabled by both my banks for security reasons.

possiblylinux127 ,

Brazil is younger

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

In my experience, their consumer protection is great.

PayPal has been absolutely instrumental for me in issuing refunds with obstinate vendors. Once or twice they’ve issued me a refund after being refused a return/refund when an Aliexpress vendor either sent the wrong item or nothing at all.

I even got them to secure me a refund against the Australian government after they refused to issue a refund after directing me to apply for a tourist visa with the wrong visa process.

Skates ,

I even got them to secure me a refund against the Australian government after they refused to issue a refund after directing me to apply for a tourist visa with the wrong visa process.

I love this result. It’s really damn hard to protect yourself from government failure, especially in cases where you are owed money. It’s awesome that you not only got your money back, but also got to play the “fuck you, if you take my lunch money you can fight my big brother” card.

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

I felt the same way. I was VERY happy with that outcome. I won’t say PayPal earned my LOYALTY with that, because loyalty to ANY company is stupidity, but at the very least they earned my respect for the time being. Of course, I reserve the right to revoke it at any time.

ApeNo1 ,

Aussie here. One reason I use PayPal is for subscriptions (streaming services etc) to avoid the headache of updating credit card details in multiple places when I change bank, credit card renews, etc. just change it in PayPal once and every subscription keeps working.

dubyakay ,

Why’d I never think of this?!

Wooki ,

Why would any one use bank details that can’t be cancelled for online services? Pay pal is worse. Will hold your money ransom. Being able to cancel payment method is very important, best is unique payment method for each service.

GreatDong3000 ,

Agree, where I live for recurring subscriptions most people use “digital credit cards” that you generate on your banking app and they have expiration dates or you can cancel them and generate a new one anytime you want. That’s good because there are so many services that make it a pain in the ass to cancel a subscription so you just delete the card from existence.

Wooki ,

Exactly!

I’m looking squarely at Adobe and other companys who fraudulently represent services, because nothing is a product any more and extorting money by charging rent or stealing IP is the new white collar crime.

ApeNo1 , (edited )

Except that you can …

Cancel auto payments

Edit: I get you. You mean multiple cards within PayPal itself per vendor. Yeah, that seems like similar effort but at least you can see everything in one portal. I have a single card linked with just enough limit to cover subscriptions and the odd internet purchase.

Wooki ,

Good luck with that. Its got no guarantee of working and can be ignored and it does.

Paypal is cancerous middleman. You do not need and on those rare occasions where you want to risk the transaction, never link it to your bank account. Use disposable prepaid services.

Steve ,

Yes its different. Sending money electronically is a mess of apps and limits and fees.

technomad ,

🤣🤣🤣

Here in the US our banks are draconian. We just struggle through it I guess 🤷‍♂️

vxx ,

It’s used for Internet purchases, so you don’t have to give your billing information some random site that might get hacked.

ChairmanMeow ,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

PayPal passes most billing information to the store where you purchased from. Card info is excluded, but in most cases PCI compliance checks ensure that card info is stored securely (or not at all).

ooterness , to lemmyshitpost in CRANKIN' MAH HOG!!!
MarcomachtKuchen ,

HELL YEAH BROTHER, AROOOO

abbadon420 ,

What is that place? I see it come by every once in a while, but I don’t get it.

Anyolduser ,

IT’S ALL ABOUT BEING AWESOME AND CRANKING YOUR HOG! AROOOOOO

ooterness ,

It’s a parody of overserious memes that are trying to sound edgy and badass. The archetype is a gun-wielding skeleton that’s riding a motorcycle and saying something about thin blue lines, but wolves and other imagery are also adjacent.

Instead, THE_PACK takes that aesthetic, cranks it up to 12, and adds some silly text. Everyone is role-playing as a skeleton that’s obsessed with motorcycles (hogs). You have to TALK IN ALL CAPS to be heard over the engine noise. And everyone’s friendly and welcoming in a way that edgelords aren’t.

A few great examples from the last year or so:

abbadon420 ,

That does sound like something I would to participate in.

Anyolduser ,

THEN GET IN THERE AND CRANK YOUR HOG, BROTHER!

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Cranks the hog up to 12

JigglySackles ,

HELL YEAH BROTHER! I LOVE CRANKIN MY MFING HOG SO HARD IT LEADS TO A, LARGE THROBBING POSITIVE MINDSET!!!

ajcolson , to memes in This company is the laughing stock of gaming right now

There’s a great initiative going on right now trying to hold Ubisoft and other game publishers accountable for shitty practices like this by trying to petition governments from a few different nations to create legal protections for people to continue to have access to their games they purchased after the publisher decides to abandon a game. If you live in an EU country especially, you might be able to help sign a petition still: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

Zacryon ,

The petition doesn’t seem to be active, i.e. signable, right now.

Klear ,

There’s a bunch of petitions and actions possible on various parts of the world. It’s not just one meaningless online petition but a comprehensive plan to bring this to attention of various governments worldwide. Keep an eye out, there might be something you can help with in the future depending on where you live.

bionicjoey , to greentext in Anon plays Balatro

Seems like a weird leap to make considering Balatro has basically nothing to do with poker beyond the game’s basic flavour.

SkaveRat ,

iirc the person who made it never played poker before

echodot ,

It has the card hand rule things of poker but that’s it. Possibly there’s some more rules, I’ve never played it, I can’t put cards in defense mode and there are no shinies, then I’m sorry I don’t care.

cymbal_king , (edited ) to asklemmy in What's the greatest scheme of all time?

Fossil fuel companies knew about global warming since at least the 1970s. Those companies have used their enormous wealth to reverse trends towards public transit (e.g. Los Angeles used to have street cars…), halt the green energy transition until very recently, and spread misinformation and buy politicians.

Edit: also think about how all of those oil spills, mountain top removal, air and water pollution, cancers, asthma, heart disease that were “necessary for the economy” over the past couple of decades. When instead we could have already had fully sustainable energy systems with similar economic growth. Vote for politicians willing to do something about it.

Taalnazi ,

Still is ongoing. And nobody got life imprisonment and all wealth confiscated for this degree of lying, nobody of them got prohibited from calling people who criticised or tackled them “ecofascists”

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Filed as not a bug. That’s capitalism working as intended.

cymbal_king ,

While I agree there are issues with capitalism. I disagree this was capitalism working as intended. If it were, the better/more innovative technology (green/cheap energy) would have surpassed the worse technology (dirty energy reliant on continued investment and extraction) because as we are finally seeing, there is more money to be made with green energy than fossil fuels. Suppression of green energy took active anti-capitalist anti-competitive efforts to preserve the edge of fossil fuels.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

The purpose of a system is what it does. The way that capitalism is advertised to work and the way that it actually works are quite different. To understand how it actually works, one might turn to Marx, Lenin, Sweezy & Baran, and Michael Hudson.

bjoern_tantau , to asklemmy in What popular product do you think is modern day snakeoil?
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Anti virus software. To protect your computer let’s constantly run this software with root privileges!

SupraMario ,

Good endpoint protection doesn’t run with any root privileges.

Irelephant OP ,
@Irelephant@lemm.ee avatar

I remember mcAffee webadvisor came preinstalled with a crappy asus vivobook i got when i was younger, i could not delete it, i had to manually remove the files from the programfiles folder but it reinstalled itself every time it updated, the laptop bricked itself recently anyway so it doesn’t matter.

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s when you wipe the os and install linux

Irelephant OP ,
@Irelephant@lemm.ee avatar

I run linux on my main pc, but some other people used the laptop.

AeroLemming ,

You can bet your ass they paid a lot of money to get their malware on your computer. It should be illegal to load consumer hardware with 3rd party bloatware that can’t be removed.

Enkers , to piracy in Last week, I re-took the national baccalaureate exam this year, Algeria. and this came up in the English exam.

Here’s my mildly diplomatic answer that’d probably get tossed:

Piracy has become a plague on our society, but there’s a more sinister cause to it. The average labourer can hardly afford to pay the same fee to access culture that the wealthy person can, and this has caused a significant and justified uptick in piracy.

This situation can be averted by increasing minimum wages and supporting universal basic income. If everyone knew they could at least make ends meet, they’d have some left over to pay for the culture that mattered to them.

GravitySpoiled ,

It’s not only price. I don’t agree that spotify has the right to a monopoly in music sales. Neither shall youtube have it for videos or adobe for image editing.

There is a market imbalance and the only protest that’s left for me is to pirate content.

Enkers ,

Haha, yeah, that’s why I said it’s my diplomatic answer, as it doesn’t utterly reject a capitalist framework.

GravitySpoiled ,

Neither does my statement reject capitalism. I reject the monopolies. There is not really a competitive market. It may or should be a natural monopoly but there are means to produce competitive markets but they are not yet implemented.

Wikipedia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.[1][2][3][4][5] Central characteristics of capitalism include capital accumulation, competitive markets, price systems, private property, property rights recognition, economic freedom, profit motive, entrepreneurship, commodification, voluntary exchange, wage labor and the production of commodities.[6][7][8][9] In a market economy, decision-making and investments are determined by owners of wealth, property, or ability to maneuver capital or production ability in capital and financial markets—whereas prices and the distribution of goods and services are mainly determined by competition in goods and services markets.

Stretch ,

Unrestrained capitalism will always trend into monopoly. Capitalist-first democracies espousing “free market” historically never properly regulate their markets, resulting in this state, and the rhetoric all tends to place the market above the people, hence copyright being perverted into arcane lifetime-plus ownership schemes with fingers into everything. Meanwhile, culture is commodified and restricted from those who create it.

I know we aren’t arguing different viewpoints; only choices of words.

Sigh… Back to my FOSS life without AAA gaming with my son in another country…

best_username_ever ,

I would ask how it is theft when I’m prevented from buying media from other countries. I can’t buy Romanian movies or Swedish books. It’s illegal for me to give them money. Where is the theft here?

NoIWontPickAName ,

Why?

best_username_ever ,

Why what? They don’t want my money, and I can clone it without harming anyone. Is it theft?

NoIWontPickAName ,

Why can’t you give them money legally?

best_username_ever ,

I just can’t. They are European countries and when I try to create an account to buy something, I am informed that I can’t create an account from another country (which should be illegal nowadays but they don’t seem to care).

There are laws to allow someone buying Romanian stuff from France, but they don’t care. I know it’s a niche thing, but if they refuse customers, they can’t complain about piracy.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Weird, but I agree, if they won’t take your money fuck em

Maeve ,

It would be easier to pass by 'what had been argued as" qualifier in front of "justified." I'd also add something about people who discriminate against different socioeconomic groups as being uncultured, while gatekeeping culture.

Cosmos7349 , to mildlyinfuriating in So I got hit with Microsoft's Windows 11 nag screen...

I bought Microsoft Office Home & Student 2021 … a one-time non-subscription purchase. Today I found this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/98cf7a85-80c4-49d8-8b7b-0a8c640daacd.png

I was able to figure out how to “re-activate” without signing up to 365. But damn sure seems like a dark pattern to me

stepan ,
cyberpunk007 ,

Was this screenshot taken with Recall? 😂…😭

Cosmos7349 ,

This is peak humor idk why anyone’s downvoting this 😂

adarza ,

i saw that on a new install of the ‘non-sub’ office last month. stupid af, just another way of scamming for subscriptions.

Naich , to asklemmy in If you didn't have to work, how would you spend your time?
@Naich@lemmings.world avatar

Brew beer, fix motorbikes, make bird boxes, travel, walk, read, volunteer, cycle, write software, build electronics, sit in the sun with a cat on me. I can’t wait to retire.

TexasDrunk ,

That’s similar to me! Fix motorcycles, build guitars, travel, read, volunteer more, build electronics (specifically guitar pedals), and play music. I’ll actually probably drink less because I won’t be trying to cram as much as possible in my limited free time.

nuke , to noncredibledefense in Rest in piss, you won't be missed
itsnicodegallo , to nostupidquestions in Why does it feel like too much effort just to go from sitting around looking at garbage online to simply watching a film or playing a video game?

ADHD. A lot of people might say depression, and ADHD gets misdiagnosed this way too, especially because people are much more familiar with the way depression manifests rather than how ADHD actually manifests beyond stereotypical hyperactivity and difficulty focusing.

What you’re describing is executive dysfunction and energy regulation problems. The reason you can’t stop scrolling is because your brain doesn’t produce dopamine enough, and it’s only used to the short bursts it can produce. This creates a feedback loop where you’re stuck stimulating yourself with quick, easy dopamine hits, and that’s why anything that seems like a prolonged task feels like an impossible endeavor. It’s also why you’ll get tunnel vision if you ever do start playing that game.

Linkerbaan , to youshouldknow in YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by tankies, and lead lemmy developer is a tankie
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You should know /politics and /news ban anyone critical of israel and Lemmy.world is ran by Zionists.

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Lemmy.world is ran by Zionists.

Do you mean people in favor of the existence of a state of Israel (original meaning) which is most of the Western world, so unsurprising, or in favor of the colonization after the 1993 “two states solution” agreement?
If it’s the later, do you have proof?

Linkerbaan , (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Most of the western world does not agree that criticism of israels right to existence is illegal or antisemitic.

The world mods permabanned me for clarifying that israelis are as native to Palestine as the Russians are to Crimea.

“To be fair, Israelis are extremely European. In fact 75 years ago they mostly lived in Europe. They should consider going back. The problem here is that Putin was banned two years ago for war crimes and israel is not while it is committing a massive Genocide.”

= Permaban for Anti Semitism.

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

So you confirm you used the original meaning? Then yes, that’s pretty average Western. You wrote it as if it was some extremist position, but it’s not, hence my question.

They should consider going back.

There’s probably some western countries or political groups that will judge this as being antisemitism because they follow the logic that the existence of Israel is essential to the survival of the Jewish people. This idea was obviously much more consensual after WW2 than today.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

There are some groups Zionist lobby like AIPAC that will argue that. I don’t care about those groups. They call every and all criticism of israel antismitic.

There was no mention of Judaism and israel is not a Jewish state to begin with. It is a Zionist state.

This is like Hexbears calling negative things about China Sinophobic.

Only Zionists subscribe to the notion that saying israelis are European colonists is “antisemitic”. And going as far as to ban a user for it is hardcore Zionism. Thus the /news mods are provably Zionists.

CerealKiller01 ,

I’m from Israel, and no one is using “Zionism” in the second meaning.

Zionism is, by definition, support for Israel as a Jewish state.

There are those who say “real Zionism” is supporting settlements in Gaza and the west bank, but there are also those who say “real Zionism” is an Israeli state existing alongside a Palestinian state. That’s like a US democrat saying a “true patriot” would support supplying a social safety net for the well-being of all citizens, while a US republican would say a “true patriot” would support a small government that doesn’t restrict the will of all citizens.

Personally, I feel that referring to Zionism in general as support for Israeli control over the west bank and Gaza started as a (partially successful) tactic to de-legitimize the existence of Israel. Not saying everyone who uses the term incorrectly is an antisemitic or whatever, but that’s basically where it came from.

octopus_ink ,

while a US republican would say a “true patriot” would support a small government that doesn’t restrict the will of all citizens.

I don’t think they say this much anymore since all Republican policies are explicitly about restricting the will of their fellow citizens.

Personally, I feel that referring to Zionism in general as support for Israeli control over the west bank and Gaza

I never used it this way or considered it this way until the past few months. 🤔 Now you’d have a hard time convincing me that it’s not what it means.

CerealKiller01 ,

I don’t think they say this much anymore since all Republican policies are explicitly about restricting the will of their fellow citizens.

Thant’s not really the point, though it does kinda feed into a general issue with the way both out countries (assuming you’re from the US) are divided - When was the last time you had an actual talk with a republican in order to understand what he/she thinks?

I never used it this way or considered it this way until the past few months. 🤔 Now you’d have a hard time convincing me that it’s not what it means.

Err… that’s just the definition of the word? You can look it up on any dictionary.

We could talk about the current government, it’s policy or the opinion of Israelis but saying the entire concept of Zionism equals support for Israeli control over the west bank and Gaza is not only factually wrong, it collapses the Israel-Palestine issue into a winner-take-all situation, where both sides are encouraged to beat each other in the hopes one of them will give up before both are dead.

octopus_ink , (edited )

When was the last time you had an actual talk with a republican in order to understand what he/she thinks?

Every day until the Pandemic. My republican friends now work in a different office than I do. It’s not hard to see the policies and politicians they vote for though, and I can read the handwritten signs in their yards explicitly calling me an idiot, moron, or traitor for having different views than they do. (I see those every day BTW.)

it collapses the Israel-Palestine issue into a winner-take-all situation

I’m just looking at what I’ve spent the past several months witnessing via news reporting and video clips. I’m not debating what the dictionary says about it. (And in any case, dictionaries reflect usage not prescribe it.)

CerealKiller01 ,

Every day until the Pandemic.

Cool, good for you (seriously). Do you honestly think they’ll say they’re against the freedom of the individual, or is it that you think they’re against it? Not saying you’re right or wrong, just asking if you’re describing what you think they’ll say, their own beliefs or the beliefs/consequences of their party. It’s an important distinction, especially when trying to engage in dialogue with them.

I’m just looking at what I’ve spent the past several months witnessing via news reporting and video clips.

Maybe I don’t follow enough news outside of Israel, but I do read quite a bit and there wasn’t anything about Zionism. Could you maybe link to one or two sources?

I’m not debating what the dictionary says about it.

I’m actually not debating at all, right now I’m trying to understand you, and I’m having some difficulties. My best guess is, you seem to have issues against the Israeli army and government (me too, btw), and somehow decided that’s Zionism. Zionism is more than a century old, and there are plenty of people who call themselves Zionists, yet don’t support all the IDF and the Israeli government did during the past few months (you’re talking to one right now, and Biden is another example). Do you think these people are wrong in what their opinions are? That they’re lying? That they’re not using the correct word, even though that’s the same usage as in the dictionary?

fuckingkangaroos ,

Known shill Linkerbaan defending Lemmy.ml with a whataboutism. Not very original.

Linkerbaan , (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Known shill neoliberal Linkerbaan fuckingkangaroos defending Lemmy.ml world with a whataboutism. adhominems Not very original.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

Then stop posting there.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I have stopped posting there because… they banned me for posting negative things about israel.

Your same argument can be applied to anyone complaining about .ml by the way.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

Go find me a post or comment I’ve made in that shithole.

Then come back here and delete your response in humiliation.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

This is not about you this is about the argument you are using.

You could type “then stop posting there” as a reply to OP as well. It solves nothing except to create echo chambers.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

And I can say the same to you, which I am. Stop posting there if you don’t like it. We’re not talking about OP. We’re talking about you.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

No we’re talking about you.

You can stop replying if you don’t like it.

Wow your argument is amazing I am winning every debate with this.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

Is that so? How is this about me? I’d LOVE to see you suss this out.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

It is about you. And you can stop posting underneath here if you don’t like it.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

So I asked, HOW is it about me when this was never about me. What we were talking about was how you don’t have to post in the communities you’re complaining about. And predictably, you tried to use that as a “gotcha.”

Where it only just makes you look like a hypocrite.

So again,

How is this about me?

And regarding your little post edit there, you don’t get to declare yourself the winner. It’s a conversation with a random person on the internet. There isn’t a winner/loser. And the fact that you think there is…

Would make you the loser if there was one.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I you cannot see how this is about you then scroll up in this thread and if you don’t like it don’t reply.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

I think I’d rather try and understand the reasoning as you see it-

When was this ever about me? It’s a simple question to answer?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Then stop posting there.

If you don’t like this is about your comment then stop posting here.

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

Enjoy the day, troll.

beardown ,

Are you autistic?

Rhoeri ,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

You can’t help yourself, can you?

Allero ,

This is true.

Also, some other communities straight up ban you for being in any way critical of NATO/US.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Lemmy.world mods just banned returntoozma from /politics for not posting enough postive news about Biden hahaha.

Only Orange Man bad.

nahuse ,

I would like to see similar proof of this allegation as exists elsewhere in this thread for .ml communities. Can you substantiate your allegations?

It’s not that I don’t believe you necessarily, it’s that it is completely counter to my own experience, where it seems to be commonly accepted that Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, war crimes, and likely genocide.

Can you illustrate any comments that have been deleted/users who have been banned for critique of Israel?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Sure thing.

This is what got me a banned for “antisemitism” on /news. Because factually stating that israelis are Europeans that colonized Palestine is actually a hate crime against Jews according to the /news mods.

“To be fair, Israelis are extremely European. In fact 75 years ago they mostly lived in Europe. They should consider going back. The problem here is that Putin was banned two years ago for war crimes and israel is not while it is committing a massive Genocide.”

Don’t look up Netanyahu’s real name that’s antisemitic.

I have also been banned multiple times before on those communities for stating the fact that there is zero evidence that Hamas raped anyone on October 7, one of israels biggest lies that has been heavily debunked by now. But this too is not allowed because israeli lies are not allowed to be debunked until at least 6 months years after israel is done using them as propaganda to commit Genocide with.

And returntoozma, a well known poster that frequenntly posts pro-Palestine articles who is not too happy with Joe Biden being complicit in Genocide, just got banned from /politics for too many negative posts about Joe Biden.

nahuse , (edited )

Can you tell me the time of your interaction happened so I can look it up in the mod logs, and the thread itself? Your comment seems fairly innocuous to me, and I would certainly be surprised to see that it is viewed as a hate crime.

EDIT: I can’t see that return2ozma was actually banned in the mod log.

Returnoozma posts the same stories over and over again, to as many subs as possible, and with a clear agenda that doesn’t seem to extend much past “Biden is bad.” They have also been called out for it repeatedly by the users there, and I have personally asked them to tone down the reposts. But it’s not as if they have their content constantly removed. It was overwhelming.

If a community asks a user to ease up on posting the same content over and over, with a clear agenda, which seemed to be the case with oozma, then a ban seems appropriate.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure how to link the thread. This should be the comment but it is removed

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6edb9c0c-89ef-4063-9abe-b733dd06b7e5.png

Ozma should have gotten banned for spamming in that case, but the explanation posted publicly on /politics says “posted too many negative things about Biden”, not “spamming”

nahuse ,

I think that comment removal was out of line, but I don’t think many comments should be removed at all. However it doesn’t look as if you have been banned from any other subs across .world, have you? That’s a large part of the discussion happening here.

I just read the announcement about his ban. It’s strange I couldn’t find it in the mod logs when I looked. However, their explanations are pretty well articulated, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to make a user who overwhelms a forum with a clear agenda take a break.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I was banned from /politics for 30 days for debunking israeli rape propaganda. That ban expired recently. Only worldnews is not in the gripes of Zionist censorship (of the three big news communities.)

They did not ban ozma for spamming but supposedly for propaganda.

nahuse ,

I’m not sure what you debunked, but based on our short interaction here you seem to deny that there is any evidence of sexual assault. Which is not true: there’s plenty of evidence, which I have you in another of my responses.

What is true is that some of the reports of rape were untrue. Read the AP news article I linked, where they interview some of the people who actually made those initial reports and reconsidered them.

I think it’s ok to acknowledge that both Hamas and the Israeli government have committed atrocities, and keep doing it. I can condemn both.

Getting back to the point of the OP here, though: there are plenty of examples of Israel being criticized, that have survived moderation.

I don’t know that I agree with the decision to ban ozma, but it does seem like it was at least openly discussed, and it doesn’t appear as if he was also banned from completely unrelated subs for his actions.

Which, again, is a huge crux of the OP that you seem to be avoiding.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

There is no evidence of Hamas raping anyone on October 7 as proven by the UN report. Only oral testimonies of which we have evidence many were fake. All the israel claimed to have turned out to be fake lies.

You have never provided any evidence.

/news and /politics contains far fewer criticism of israel than /worldnews. This is easily observable.

JimSamtanko ,

You were banned for misinformation. It’s in the mod logs.

nahuse ,

Also, here’s a UN report that may interest you:

“Reasonable Grounds to Believe Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Occurred in Israel During 7 October Attacks, Senior UN Official Tells Security Council”

press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm

Many of the first stories by Israeli first responders have been illustrated to be false, however that doesn’t mean no sexual assaults happened: apnews.com/…/israel-hamas-war-sexual-violence-zak…

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

yes the UN which confirms there is zero evidence of rape provided by israel. Consider reading it. The report states that any testimonies do not count as evidence as a UN investigation (which this is not) would have to take place. Israel is blocking the UN rape investigation because of course, there is no evidence of rape.

If legalese is too difficult consider: …substack.com/…/pramila-pattens-rape-fantasies

nahuse , (edited )

sh.itjust.works/comment/12016983

That’s my comment, where I replied to you, with a source from the United Nations. I’ll highlight the relevant… title of the page… for you:

“Reasonable Grounds to Believe Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Occurred in Israel During 7 October Attacks, Senior UN Official Tells Security Council”

I also included an APNews article about this very topic, and addresses the ways that disinformation regarding sexual violence in this conflict about. Here’s the headline of that article:

“How 2 debunked accounts of sexual violence on Oct. 7 fueled a global dispute over Israel-Hamas war”

Edit: here is the actual UN report: www.un.org/…/20240304-Israel-oWB-CRSV-report.pdf

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The report states that any testimonies do not count as evidence as a UN investigation (which this is not) would have to take place. Israel is blocking the UN rape investigation.

AP massively manufactured consent for israel their report is worth nothing as they were spouting those debunked rape lies to begin with.

And it’s certainly not 2 accounts… It’s far more.

And the israeli government claimed on BBC that there were survivors of “khamaaas rape” and that they had video, photo and forensic evidence. All which turned out to be lies.

nahuse ,

So you did not read anything I’ve sent you?

I’ve edited my previous comment, and included the actual UN report.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Read the first line in my comment again. Israel is blocking the actual UN investigation. Your report specifically states that it is not evidence and cannot be used as evidence.

nahuse ,

That Israel has not provided evidence? Maybe, but irrelevant to our conversation.

The UN report itself outlines how sexual violence has occurred in this conflict, right from the start.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Strange because the UN seems to disagree with you. The UN says there is no evidence Hamas raped anyone in this very article:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e898b051-5a6f-49ef-ab84-616977059061.png

nahuse ,

What? How does that say anything about what did or did not happen? This is about the mandate of the team, and, as I have been saying, means that there is more investigation needed. Please, highlight for me where the UN says that there is no evidence of rape. I think in this case it might be you who struggles with some of the nuances of legalese.

Over and over again, it says that there “are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred at several locations across the Gaza periphery, including in the form of rape and gang rape, during the 7 October 2023 attacks. Credible circumstantial information, which may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including genital mutilation, sexualized torture, or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, was also gathered.”

None of this amounts to “there is no evidence of rape.” What this means is that there needs to be more, sustained and explicitly mandated investigation before legal action should take place. This concept, I think, is called due process.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Strange so why would the UN require a real investigation to draw conclusions on rape?

The report has no investigative mandate. It contains the words of a woman named pramilla patten that desperately tried to help israel push rape propaganda but was not able to find any real evidence to do so. She was specifically invited by israel while israel blocked the UN team with an investigative mandate.

nahuse ,

Because a wider, better resourced, and long term investigation would be better equipped to collect and analyze evidence? Because a better structured and mandated team would likely have more access, credibility, and ability to undertake that assignment? Because, as the report discusses, it often takes years or decades for crimes committed during armed conflict to come to their conclusion, for myriad of reasons?

Among other statements, here’s what the actual UN report actually said about just this: “As in other conflict-affected contexts, there remains a significant likelihood that the findings of the mission team, in terms of verified violations, only partially reflect the crimes actually committed. A more comprehensive assessment of the occurrence of conflict-related sexual violence in the context of the 7 October attacks would require a fully-fledged investigation by competent bodies with adequate time and capacity.” (Page 15, section C, subsection 56).

Over and over again this report says that “there are reasonable grounds to believe that sexual violence occurred” on that day, in various settings. I’m not sure why you think that this amounts to “rape definitely did not happen.”

And, since your counterargument rests on the idea that Pramilla Patten is just “a woman,” I think you should think about who and what she is: a legal expert, practicing lawyer, and judge who has been investigating gender-based violence for more than 20 years, and specifically sexual violence in conflict settings since 2017.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Yes you are right it repeats the “reasonable grounds” thing over and over and then undoes it by saying “lol we don’t actually have an investigative mandate and this report cannot draw conclusions. Our witnesses and evidence and not mentioned trust me bro but also you can’t trust me.”

Very contradictory. You’d almost think that she is writing propaganda for israel here. And was specifically invited by israel to write propaganda.

Tell me again, why is israel blocking the actual UN investigation team that wants to investigate?

Consider reading the Finkelstein post again if you’re having trouble with the deceiving legalise from Pattens report.

nahuse ,

Yes you are right it repeats the “reasonable grounds” thing over and over and then undoes it by saying “lol we don’t actually have an investigative mandate and this report cannot draw conclusions. Our witnesses and evidence and not mentioned trust me bro but also you can’t trust me.

Doesn’t say they can’t draw conclusions, only that the conclusions they draw do not have the same legal weight as other possible legal instruments. You’re also conflating their mandate and the evidence they collected; they don’t have a mandate sufficient to complete the investigation, but that has nothing to do with the evidence they did collect. Which says, in no uncertain terms, that there is sufficient evidence to suggest that sexual violence occurred. Let me be clear, again: NONE OF THAT MEANS THE UN HAS FOUND ZERO EVIDENCE OF RAPE ON OCTOBER 7TH.

Very contradictory. You’d almost think that she is writing propaganda for israel here. And was specifically invited by israel to write propaganda.

I’m sure Israel does want these crimes to be exposed. I’m also sure that the present government of Israel is a bad actor and is doing everything it can to subvert any critique against itself, while maximizing messaging critical of Hamas (and also minimizing any reports of its crimes).

Tell me again, why is israel blocking the actual UN investigation team that wants to investigate?

Because the government of Israel sucks, and any intensive investigation would certainly recover even more evidence of the various war crimes it has committed, which obviously amount to a lot more death and destruction than anything that happened on October 7th.

Consider reading the Finkelstein post again if you’re having trouble with the deceiving legalise from Pattens report.

Thanks, I have an advanced degree in international affairs, so I was trained by actual subject matter experts on how this stuff works. Dr. Finkelstein is not an expert in international law, which is why some of his critiques fall short, in my view, and explains why you don’t seem to understand that just because a team does not enjoy a robust enough mandate that doesn’t mean they don’t collect evidence. It just means they don’t have the proper mandate to collect all the evidence, and certainly not sufficient authority to make conclusions beyond certain evidentiary standards.

I’d also remind you that the UN is an intergovernmental organization, and with a few very notable exceptions, no UN entity can operate outside the restrictions that a host country places on it.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Yes the visit it has nothing to do with all of the NYT, AP, Guardian Reuters and other propaganda repurts being fully debunked and israel needing new ammunition to keep the rape lies alive

It is a sad state of affairs that someone with a degree in legalise is fully unable to read and comprehend anything said in reports. You should consider asking your university for a refund.

Then again, when I debunked the original NYT propaganda piece that everyone now admits is a massive hoax, another lemming told me they had a journallist degree and I should learn some media literacy because “The New York Times does the highest quality objective reporting”

I will end this conversation with a video of the woman you adore so much admitting herself that you are wrong

nahuse ,

Yes the visit it has nothing to do with all of the NYT, AP, Guardian Reuters and other propaganda repurts being fully debunked and israel needing new ammunition to keep the rape lies alive

What? this doesn’t seem like a statement that is relevant to our conversation, which is about whether sexual violence occurred on October 7th.

It is a sad state of affairs that someone with a degree in legalise is fully unable to read and comprehend anything said in reports. You should consider asking your university for a refund.

lol, I’ll send a letter and see. I’d love for you to illustrate where my reading comprehension is bad, though. I just keep on waiting for you to prove your points, I guess.

Yikes, man. It’s absolutely unreal to me that you are just blanket denying that there is any possibility that sexual violence occurred on a day where 1,200 people were murdered and thousands more injured by a decentralized group of combatants, many of whom don’t believe that Israelis are real people. It does not do any credit to your argument that you are so vehemently opposed to accepting the possibility members of an armed group that perpetrated horrific acts against unarmed civilians across a wide period of time and space may have also raped people.

I watched the video. Seriously, where the fuck does it say anything about rapes not happening? Honestly, you keep saying this thing, and presenting evidence, but literally nothing you are showing me says what you’re saying it says. Every single source you have posted says that that there is evidence of sex crimes. Every single one, including that video. Just saying a source proves your point doesn’t mean that the source, yanno, proves your point.

some_guy ,

I agree that the Oct 7 rape charges are bullshit, but you’re misrepresenting the image you posted: it says there was no investigation and that one would be due to draw any conclusions.

Linkerbaan , (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

There was no investigation. That would require an investigative mandate.

It is insane that anyone would believe witnesses provided by the israeli government after a track record of like 10 previous witnesses provided by the israeli government that were proven to be lying.

some_guy ,

What’s truly insane is how you’re getting downvoted when Israel’s claims have been repeatedly disproven or simply never substantiated.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

These people are completely brainwashed. Israeli lies can be debunked 10 times. They spout an 11th lie without evidence and the cult of liberals holds it up like the Bible

nahuse ,

The AP has been targeted by Israel for its coverage of the conflict.

In that article they interview the people who initially reported some of these cases of rape, and illustrate how and why they were wrong. It doesn’t say anywhere that there are no other erroneous reports of rape.

The UN report, which I’ve linked elsewhere, illustrates the evidence and methodology, and makes the convincing argument that sexual assault likely occurred in the context of Oct 7. It’s in plain English.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Once again …substack.com/…/pramila-pattens-rape-fantasies

Consider reading that instead of replying to me. It debunks everything you said about the UN report 5 times over.

I have read the UN report. You have not.

nahuse ,

I’ve read the report, and it states over and over again that there is credible evidence of assaults, and stipulates how it went about its business.

I’m working through Dr. Finkelstein’s arguments. All I can see he does is cast doubt on the evidence that was collected and the mission’s mandate. None of this amounts to “there is no evidence that there was any rape.” It just means that there is evidence for more investigation.

SpaceCadet ,
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flubba86 , (edited ) to linux in My friend didn't have a great experience with Linux

Sounds like your friend is absolutely not the target audience for a linux-based operating system. If he wants to play Windows games and use software designed for Windows, then he should be using a Windows OS. Anything else would be providing a suboptimal experience for him.

Personally, I’ve been using various Linux-based systems since 2004, as a software developer I use a lot of command-line utilities, and many tools and applications designed for Linux. If I were using predominantly tools and applications designed for Windows, then I would be using Windows. No need to make life more difficult for yourself and others.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

This right here. I know lemmy is all “LINUX IS FOR EVERYONE!” But it isn’t.

I know this would go against Google’s self interest but they are best poised to make Linux mainstream. Chrome OS can play android games natively. But it’s all close source.

It wouldn’t take much to make the ecosystem for general Linux. I don’t know if the other android-based OSes are working on this but anything we can do to push gaming into Linux would help it to become a better everyday OS

cybersandwich ,

You know what makes my Linux distribution perfect? My windows partition that I can switch to quickly.

BearOfaTime ,

Lol, nice. And accurate.

People keep pushing Linux everything.

I run Linux as Proxmox, VM’s, containers, etc. Great stuff.

I have Mint on a laptop… What an awful experience. It’s tremendously better than it was in 2000, but holy cow the issues and incompatibilities.

Right up front two major issues with Linux:

  1. No standard UI - it’s different on every system
  2. No standard tools - you can’t rely on the same tools being on every machine
SmoochyPit ,

Right up front two major issues with Linux:

  1. No standard UI - it’s different on every system
  2. No standard tools - you can’t rely on the same tools being on every machine

These seem like pretty fundamental traits, since Linux is only the kernel. I think a better way to compare other OSs to Linux would be comparing them to specific Linux distros, since those often do have standardized installs.

But there’s not really a great answer for which distro or distros should be used to represent the whole linux ecosystem… and that fragmentation has both pros and cons.

Like, I really love my Arch desktop, but it took lots of time to learn and configure. And it often breaks with updates— it’s not something most users would want. However, I get cutting-edge updates and features, and I have specialized my entire OS to best work for my workflows.

Ziglin ,

I have fedora on my laptop personally. Upsides vs windows: More than 5 FPS on the desktop. Boots 95% of the time (the 5% are usually in summer when it likes to overheat if it’s vents aren’t completely unobstructed), starts in 1 minute rather than five and uses 1-1.5gib of ram leaving me 1.5-2gib (+4gib swap) for apps rather than the 0.5gib or so on windows.

zalgotext ,

anything we can do to push gaming into Linux would help it to become a better everyday OS

I feel like the SteamDeck and SteamOS have already done more for Linux gaming than ChromeOS ever had the potential for.

sandayle , to linux in My friend didn't have a great experience with Linux
@sandayle@lemmy.ml avatar

I have been using Linux for years, but I don’t insist anyone to use it, because when they encounter a problem, they blame you.

Let them drown in their filth.

VitabytesDev OP ,

My friend doesn’t blame me. He blames Linux, which also isn’t nice. Of course, it isn’t Linux’s fault that the Roblox developers patched their game so it cannot be ran with wine, but in his eyes, and the eyes of the non tech-savvy people, if it runs on Windows and not on Linux, Linux is doing something wrong.

Diplomjodler3 ,

I would never try to convince anyone to use Linux. If they’re happy with Windows, let them use Windows.

possiblylinux127 ,

Its our fault for making him use Linux. Why does it matter what OS people use? Chill my man.

deegeese , to asklemmy in What did you buy that improved your life?

Replaced all my mismatched socks with 24 pair of identical.

Pronell ,

I did that and my wife got annoyed… then started wearing my socks. Now we buy more and just use athletic socks

She’s still got her colorful, playful ones that are a pain in the ass to match up.

dogsnest ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. We have grey and black.

Get ‘hiking’ socks, as opposed to ‘athletic’ - they last far longer.

OhNoMoreLemmy ,

Work socks as well.

They’re socks that go with construction boots. Basically the same as hiking socks but cheaper.

grrgyle ,

Interesting. I went the opposite direction, and prefer it. Grasses greener type deal maybe

deegeese ,

Depends on if you think socks are a fashion accessory or a utility.

grrgyle ,

Not sure it’s so binary. I don’t know the first thing about fashion, but I do like having different kinds of socks, even if no one else sees them.

I do this kinda like magical thinking thing where I think about how I want my day to go and pick socks/etc that go with that.

I know it’s not the most mentally healthy thing

aeki ,

I don’t see anything mentally unhealthy about what you do, sounds cool.

NakariLexfortaine ,

Eh, it doesn’t sound destructive or interruptive to your day.

Manifesting isn’t just a new-age hippy thing. Ritual can put your brain in a certain space, and that can be a massive motivator for someone. Picking your socks to fit the theme isn’t all that different than telling yourself affirmations in the mirror.

It’s kinda like the “lucky shirt” concept. Sure, the shirt doesn’t really have some metaphysical power, but you’re putting yourself in the mindset of “Good things happen when I wear this”, and when you’re already in that frame of mind, the good things stand out even more.

grrgyle ,

That’s a great way to rephrase it. That’s exactly what that is: I know my choices don’t actually have any magical effects. Pretending like they do gives me the feeling of control, even though I know intellectually that I can only control myself.

brygphilomena ,

That’s fashion. You don’t have to be into the latest trend. Fashion is just how you express yourself in whatever way you like.

Bocky ,

Yes, and at the same time I went with thin wool socks too. And I’m in Texas where it’s hot and humid too. Wool socks were a game changer, they don’t hold onto moisture like cotton and synthetics do.

deegeese ,

Didn’t want to be a shill, but I got a bunch of medium thick wool socks from Darn Tough and sweaty wool socks are a lot nicer than sweaty cotton/poly socks.

improbablypoopingrn ,

I did this same thing and my life has been changed forever

Bocky ,

Yes same, the darn touch T series have been my favorites with the best fit for my thin build. T4021 if I wear my boots, T4016 if I’m rocking tennies.

I tried smartwool and a few other Amazon and popular brands. Came back to darn tough each time.

I did recently get some Alpaca Wool socks and a sweater and they are a close second to the DT socks.

Then I discovered smartwool quarter zip long sleeve shirts, lightweight 150 weight wool, excellent t-shirt replacements

PiJiNWiNg ,

So great on laundry day

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