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JoYo , to programmerhumor in Anyone here use assembly?
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I get the feeling that all of these assembly jokes are justifications to avoid learning assembly.

You can still make syscalls in assembly. Assembly isnt magic. It isn’t starting from the creation of matter and energy, it’s just very specific code.

NocturnalMorning ,

It’s just a joke friend.

MadhuGururajan ,

A very bad one if it requires switching off a large portion of your brain to find it funny.

Arsecroft ,
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JoYo ,
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

I said so in my comment, try to keep up.

Evil_Shrubbery , to lemmyshitpost in Boxing

One punch shrimp

dogsnest , to nostupidquestions in Why doesn't the American market provide efficient and effective health insurance like it does for car insurance?
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Why doesn’t America join the first world and provide Universal Health Care?

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  • FlashMobOfOne ,
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    Trump’s existence doesn’t make Obama’s health care plan suck any less.

    Also: “Your guy sucks as badly as our guy” isn’t the awesome rebuttal you think it is.

    (Plus I’m not a Trump supporter.)

    dogsnest ,
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    hey, I edited and deleted my shit bc I couldn’t get it to present correctly, so feel free to delete! I’m pretty sure we’re pointed in the same direction!

    cheers,

    FlashMobOfOne ,
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    Sure thing, man. Cheers.

    Angry_Autist ,

    ^This is a media manipulation account

    finley ,

    Because rich people on large corporations refuse to pay their fair share of taxes

    joyjoy ,

    Those rich people also are shareholders of the insurance companies

    AndrewZabar ,

    Yes and they also own politicians.

    DemBoSain ,
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    Because the American system provides for a rich ecosystem of middlemen and lobbyists. If we switch to Universal Healthcare, what will they do? Code?

    yemmly ,

    No one knows, but for sure the reason is something rotten. I’ve never ever heard a reasonable argument against it.

    abbadon420 ,

    Not the entire “first world” has universal health care. The Netherlands for example has only 62% UFC. Which is fairly managable in paractice, with proper regulations and support for thos ewho can’t pay the €120 obligatory monthly insurance fee, but obviously it’s complete bullshit.

    wjs018 , to selfhosted in Why do so many people use NGINX?

    Some good answers in here already. It boils down to a couple points for me:

    • Back when I started selfhosting, it was either nginx or apache, and I found nginx better and easier to set up
    • All the nginx knowledge I learned years ago still works just the same as it did back then, so why potentially mess things up by switching if it all still works
    • Basically every project has an example nginx config for reference, that can’t be said about other proxies
    • It is easier to find support online for edge cases that might pop up with nginx due to the ubiquity of its use and years of history
    jballs , to science_memes in Entomologists
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    Entomology 101 - or Bugs for Thugs, as my professor called it - was the coolest elective I took in college. You could get extra credit for bringing in bugs to share with the class. I didn’t have a proper container, so I spent one class trying to contain an Emperor Scorpion in a Chinese food container and keep it from escaping. Good times.

    VelvetStorm ,

    I wonder if just photos would have worked if they were good ones. If I had the money, i would 100% take one of these classes.

    jballs ,
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    Honestly if you’re near a university, you can probably just show up.

    kittenzrulz123 , to memes in Capitalism and fascism

    Fascism is simply Capitalism when the Capitalists succeed enough

    cyborganism ,

    Not entirely.

    Germany wasn’t having a very successful economy when Nazism started.

    Nor did Italy or Spain.

    kittenzrulz123 ,

    That relies on the assumption that what’s good for the economy is good for the capitalists, they always make sure that capitalism occasionally goes up in flames to take advantage of social unrest.

    JustEnoughDucks , (edited )
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    Considering the capitalists have forced the world to arbitrarily measure the “economy” by measuring how willing rich people are to play in the rich man casino…

    agressivelyPassive ,

    That’s the point.

    In Germany there was a battle between left and right back then. The economy boomed in the 20s and faltered in the 30s. Capitalists saw the threat of socialism looming just behind Poland and so they supported fascism.

    The Nazis funneled billions into large businesses. It was unsustainable and morally multi-level wrong, but they skimmed a lot of profits from these agreements. They got rich, while the economy started to collapse - even before the war.

    Even after the war, most of them got away. They kept much of their wealth.

    comfy ,
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    In fact, fascism often gains support from middle class desperation, with the blessing of the booj who prefer it over communism (which tends to rise from the lower classes during similar times of desperation)

    disguy_ovahea , (edited )

    One is a form of economy, the other is an ideology of societal oppression. Fascist governments have run capitalist, communist, and socialist economies. Historically, more fascist governments have developed from socialist nations than capitalist. That doesn’t make fascism inherently socialist either.

    The meme would be more accurate in stating that fascism is a failure of democracy than capitalism.

    kittenzrulz123 ,

    Fascism is inherently capitalist, the communist “version” is called national communism or national bolshevism

    PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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    National bolshevism is not communist version of fascism, it’s neonazi ideology and it’s anticommunist too just trying to coopt the aesthetics.

    Cowbee ,
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    That’s not really accurate, fascism is specifically a reactionary attempt to “turn the clock back” to “the good old days,” it’s focused on class colaborationism and nationalism.

    Fascism is wholly anticommunist.

    disguy_ovahea , (edited )

    There’s nothing specific about fascism. The term was coined during Mussolini’s reign, and has taken many forms since. Kershaw famously wrote that “trying to define ‘fascism’ is like trying to nail jelly to the wall.”

    The only consistent components of fascism are an autocratic government and a dictatorial ruler, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible nationalism through suppression of opposition.

    Cowbee ,
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    You’re leaving out the inherent focus on Corporatism and Class Colaborationism, which are key components of historically fascist countries like Italy under Mussolini or Nazi Germany. You’re also leaving out nationalism and xenophobia, the necessity of an “enemy,” and more. Fascism rarely shows all symptoms of fascism, but by your definition is just becomes “bad government.”

    Fascism is a specific and flexible form of a bad government/economic structure with its own set of rising factors and characteristics, not every cruel act by a state is fascist.

    Eco’s 14 points on fascism are not entirely complete, but do paint a far better picture than what you’re working with here.

    disguy_ovahea , (edited )

    While they are common traits, they are not requirements to be considered part of fascist ideology. While used by more famous fascist governments, they are not necessary to impart the general ideology of fascism through authoritarian control by a dictator.

    For example the Spanish Falange was considered a fascist movement. It supported conservative ideas about women and supported rigid gender roles that stipulated that women’s main duties in life were to be loving mothers and submissive wives. There was no economic system defining the fascist movement.

    Cowbee ,
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    What is the “general ideology of fascism?” You’ve stripped fascism of its defining characteristics and defined it as “bad,” which isn’t particularly useful for avoiding fascism or preventing it.

    You’ve stripped it of historical context and now it’s just something that can happen, sometimes, for no reason.

    disguy_ovahea , (edited )

    Where did I write “fascism is bad?” It is a vague ideology that is centrally defined as I stated above.

    For example, Oxford defines fascism as an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition.

    There is no specific economic system required for a government to be considered fascist. Historically, fascism has grown out of more socialist nations than capitalist. That doesn’t make fascism inherently socialist either.

    Joseph Stalin stated in a speech in 1924: Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

    The definition skews depending on the source. The qualities change depending on the government. The policies vary depending on the leader. The only consistent factors are the ones I stated earlier.

    Cowbee ,
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    Where did I write “fascism is bad?” It is a vague ideology that is centrally defined as I stated above.

    The vague ideology you described is so vague, it ceases to be a useful descriptor, and becomes “bad.”

    For example, Oxford defines fascism as an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition.

    It’s right-wing, ergo it is built on Capitalism and Corporatism. You’ve debunked yourself.

    There is no specific economic system required for a government to be considered fascist. Historically, fascism has grown out of more socialist nations than capitalist. That doesn’t make fascism inherently socialist either.

    That’s a wild thing to say, and completely historically inaccurate, fascism has risen out of corporatism, ie later Capitalism. Nazi Germany, Mussolini’s Italy, or even fascist movements like the British Union of Fascists have all been right-wing Capitalist ideologies.

    Joseph Stalin stated in a speech in 1924: Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

    Stalin is generally correct here, yes, which aligns with Umberto Eco’s 14 points. Fascism arises during Capitalist crisis, and is a violent tool of the bourgeoisie to collaborate with the “middle class” against the lower classes. Social Democracy is Capitalist, with safety nets, not Socialist in any manner. You continue to prove yourself wrong.

    The definition skews depending on the source. The qualities change depending on the government. The policies vary depending on the leader. The only consistent factors are the ones I stated earlier.

    You’re wrapping around to your vague initial point after debunking yourself this entire comment, for some reason.

    emergencyfood ,

    The only consistent components of fascism are an autocratic government and a dictatorial ruler, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible nationalism through suppression of opposition.

    This is authoritarian nationalism, not fascism. All fascism is nationalist and authoritarian, not all nationalism or authoritarianism is fascist. Bismarck, Churchill and Erdogan are/were authoritarian nationalists, but I wouldn’t call any of them fascist.

    comfy ,
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    This is authoritarian nationalism, not fascism.

    They’re not defining fascism, they’re listing the consistent components. Their post is completely agreeing with your statement: “All fascism is nationalist and authoritarian, not all nationalism or authoritarianism is fascist.”

    sparkle , (edited )

    Fascism in the most vague sense that you can get while still being accurate is enforcement of a hierarchy, practically no social mobility, based on traits like ethnicity, sex, wealth, etc. supposed to be the “natural order” of society; often involving some sort of mythological/religious/idealized “past” or predecessor society/civilization which was then upended by some sort of evil group(s) (the targetted groups/scapegoats), which stole from us and which are an evil that need to be stopped. This, of course, is slightly different from how Mussolini’s fascism was originally visualized – which was a corporatist nationalist dictatorship about “might”/the strong coming out on top (translated into militarism) justified by religion/mythology (in fascist Italy’s case about being the successor to the great ancient Rome and seeing through to a greater Roman Empire) – but it’s how the world has become to understand the concept of fascism as time went on.

    This is the reason many see capitalism as sort of “diet fascism” – it’s entirely about a hierarchy based around socioeconomic class/groups, with highly restricted social mobility (although not completely closed off as fascism’s is), and it’s seen that your place in the hierarchy in a hypothetically purely capitalistic system is the natural order of things – your place in the hierarchy is supposedly based on how hard you work, rich people are rich because they’ve simply worked smarter and harder than the people under them, and anyone can go up the hierarchy if they simply just are a better person. Of course, in reality we know this doesn’t work and among other things generational wealth & systematic roadblocks created by the wealthy play a major factor in this hierarchy, but I digress. The reason classical liberalism / free market capitalism hates class equality, hates a system like socialism which calls for abolishing unjust hierarchies, is because it sees the abolition of the socioeconomic/class-based hierarchy as going against the natural order and forcibly placing people in the “wrong” places in the hierarchy (all on the same level) when some people deserve to be below others because they’re lazy, illegal immigrants, “criminals”, etc. In essence, they see equality not as equality, but as an “upside-down” hierarchy where the former upper class is forced below the formerly marginalized groups; to a more privileged person, equality feels like oppression. Capitalism needs an underclass to function, in a capitalistic system people with certain traits always have an unequal distribution throughout the hierarchy (scapegoated/marginalized groups significantly tending to pool at the bottom with only a few “token” examples truly traversing upwards, and people closer to the top of the pyramid being less and less prone to falling down the hierarchy). It sounds a lot like fascism, because fascism and capitalism are ideologies/systems with loosely equivalent structures but capitalism being far less pronounced.

    Additionaly, classical liberalism & moreso conservative capitalism are centered around reggressing to a supposed “golden age” of the past where things were better before “they” ruined it (whoever “they” is and what specifically “they” did is vague and changes from belief to belief but usually includes taxation/redistribution of wealth/power away from the people at the top of the hierarchy, or some shift in the hierarchy). It’s like a much less pronounced form of the mythologized predecessor civilization/society of fascism, instead of hundreds or thousands of years ago it’s more like 30-40 years ago.

    Fascism in the way we currently understand it doesn’t even strictly require dictatorial/autocratic rule, it can be enforced in a technically “democratic” system as long as certain groups are excluded from the democratic process. Of course, the line between democracy, broader oligarchy, narrower oligarchy, and autocracy becomes blurrier the more of the population you exclude, since democracy is more of a spectrum than anything, but generally there’s a lot of possible fascist systems where people would still consider it democratic enough. Your perspective is pretty deeply tied to which group you belong to as well – the average German thought Nazi Germany was a democracy even when Poland was invaded and throughout much of the war, but obviously the Roma and Jewish populace being genocided would definitely not agree. Capitalism does this exclusion to a large extent too – just usually not in the form of outright completely banning a group from participating – and the upper classes have signficantly more say in the democratic process, to the point where the upper classes can choose to completely eliminate options they collectively dislike enough from the equation regardless of the consent of the lower classes.

    Overall while fascism and capitalism aren’t a complete overlap, fascism is for the most part a progression of capitalism (or, as more and more people see it, capitalism is a derivation of fascism and/or feudalism where we keep trying to patch up the flaws using a few socialist/progressive/democratic qualities) and pretty much requires a capitalist (or capitalist-adjacent) system to exist. Fascism can’t use, say, a socialist system because socialism inherently requires working towards the abolition of the power structures/hierarchies which fascism is based around. Of course, in fascist systems the supposed “superior” class often has power redistributed to them in the form of e.g. social welfare benefits and infrastructure investments, which isn’t straight up classical liberalism obviously, but that doesn’t necessarily violate capitalism/the capitalist power structures as a whole, it’s just using a different form of capitalism in order to keep the currently-not-scapegoated but also-not-highest castes content and thinking that things aren’t so bad.

    If you have any questions about this or can’t see the reasoning of certain parts, I’m sure I (or someone else) will be happy to answer it for you.

    TokenBoomer ,

    Interesting. I think you have a point.

    comfy ,
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    The post you replied to has serious issues, please see the other replies for more info.

    AntiOutsideAktion ,
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    Their point is literally fascist propaganda

    TokenBoomer , (edited )

    How so? I understand the relationship of fascism and capitalism. But it stands to reason a similar social framework could arise from socialism, especially during the transition from capitalism to socialism. Think Khmer Rouge

    AntiOutsideAktion ,
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    Okay so everything after “I understand the thing” proves you don’t understand anything. You literally don’t have any functioning definition of fascism at all. Socialism is the transition state. And the Khmer Rouge weren’t socialist (you can tell because they were US funded during the cold war).

    TokenBoomer ,

    Maybe not, but patronization won’t help. Maybe explaining how this definition doesn’t apply to the Khmer Rouge. Fascism is a vague term. Was it authoritarianism? What separates it from fascism? Can socialist countries be authoritarian? Does that make them fascist if they’re not capitalist?

    comfy ,
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    This is just false. There’s no interpretation of ‘communist economies’ that applies to any fascist state ever. Two of the core characteristics of fascism are anti-liberalism and anti-Marxism, which covers basically all socialism. Fascist leaders (even the national-syndicalism types like Mussolini) have an odd relationship with capitalism, but ultimately I don’t believe they moved towards socialism either.

    Historically, more fascist governments have developed from socialist nations than capitalist.

    Apart from Francoist Spain, I can’t think of a single example of a fascist government which succeeded a socialist government.

    en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_fascist_movements_by_c…

    Kit , to showerthoughts in How transwomen/transmen dream

    Transman here. I dream as a man even when dreaming of my childhood.

    pivot_root ,

    Wholesome af.

    velox_vulnus , to memes in Military top

    That’s the remnants of old British English, which probably preserved one if the features of Latin. It means “also/and”.

    So penetration-cum-blast round means penetration-and-blast round. On second thought, this really doesn’t fix how wrong it sounds.

    AndrasKrigare ,

    Ah, that makes sense, like summa cum laude.

    Fizz , to nostupidquestions in Why do hacked channels on youtube always post Tesla/SpaceX stuff?
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    They are fishing for crypto so they target people who are likely to hold crypto and be stupid enough to fall for the scam. Using a video of Elon or space x is a perfect way to attract this demographic.

    MeatsOfRage , (edited ) to retrogaming in Here's why modern gaming suuuuucks.

    I mean, you’re 40 now (or close to it). A lot of your nostalgia is also wrapped up in being 5. I too was an 80s kid but if the market hadn’t changed your reaction would. You probably aren’t sitting under a blanket learning the names in Dave the Diver. You have an income now so you probably wouldn’t just wait till your parents bought you Hades 2. You’re probably not running around with your friends right now pretending to be Helldivers. Games have changed but so have you. The Indie market is carrying the torch of these bygone days. A lot of the stuff you want wouldn’t have the same impact on you today. I am however watching my own children glom into game characters. My daughter loves Mario and Mega Man without going to Blockbuster to rent the cartridges.

    (Btw madden 95 does work on the SNES classic, they’re pretty easy to jail break and fill with your own ROMs)

    GolfNovemberUniform , to linux in Running a business using linux
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    Hmm I didn’t know the UK was THIS bad.

    fellowmortal OP ,

    I don’t know if the UK is worse than anywhere else (?)

    GolfNovemberUniform ,
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    Well it surely is much much worse than my country by the looks of it.

    fellowmortal OP ,

    Which is?

    cygnus ,
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    I’m in Canada and use Linux full-time without any such problems whatsoever. On rare occasions I use Edge instead of Firefox, and that’s it.

    krash ,

    In Sweden most government provided services are accessible through a web browser, but you need “BankID” which requires Android. Which is kind of Linux, though not fully FOSS.

    balder1993 ,

    But I’m sure the fact Android is FOSS had nothing to do with it, it’s just a random coincidence. It would simply be the most popular OS.

    digdilem ,

    Bad? It’s a couple of decisions made by organisations or politicians who are ignorant of free software alternatives and open standards.

    Certainly better than the US’s tax system, where you have to pay to file your taxes or at the least, have to spend a lot of your time working out complex tax submissions each year.

    In the UK, your income tax is automatically paid by your employer when you earn it. Unless you’re self employed - or doing your own business accounts like OP, you don’t have to submit any tax information, ever.

    GolfNovemberUniform , (edited )
    @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

    Taxes are not the only things that matter, mister/miss. In the US you at least aren’t legally forced to use Windows and I’m not even talking about the fact that the US supports genocide. But who am I talking to? Americans are fully dead inside and won’t understand. There’s no way to revive them.

    digdilem ,

    I’m not in the US - and who was talking about genocide? We’re talking about tax and it’s software here.

    GolfNovemberUniform ,
    @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

    The original topic wasn’t about tax either.

    acockworkorange ,

    All these third world countries can’t compete with the powerhouse that is Brazil and its free, multiplataform tax system since the nineties.

    Seriously though, it’s not a technological issue, it’s a political one.

    StThicket , to memes in USA presidential candidates

    It amazes me that one of the largest countries in the world, with the most diverse demographics, can only chose between two candidates. This is not democracy. It’s a shit show that has been going on for far too long.

    Cowbee ,
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    America is a one party dictatorship, and in typical American extravagence, it has two of them.

    pingveno , (edited )

    Said by a man who ran a country that outlawed all but the party he was prime minister of. He was probably a little salty about criticism over the lack of democracy in his country.

    Hirom ,

    Tradition and inertia.

    The USA is proud to have the oldest and longest-standing written constitution. The fact it hasn’t been rewriteen in a long time help explain why there’s still an electoral college, slavery for prisoners (13th amendements), and weak regulation of campaign finance.

    PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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    Oldest active constitution is San Marino.

    xor ,

    Presumably what the other commenter was referring to is the US having the oldest codified constitution

    PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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    Which is honestly meaningless but very convenient for US narrations. There were also older de facto constitutions, which are usually forgotten like the Henrician Articles of P-L Commonwealth. US constitution is famous because it was the one which was loudly proclaimed and imitated later.

    xor ,

    Ok 👍

    Hirom ,

    That’s interesting. Thanks for pointing it out.

    My point is having a very old constitution isn’t much of a boast if keeping it as-is causes political issues.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    Just mention an alternative and you’ll will quickly understand why.

    The parties have done the most amazing job in pretending the world will end at every election if they are not chosen.

    capital ,

    Is that a 3rd option in a first past the post system?

    Hmmmm… what could be the issue there I wonder.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    The people are the issue not the system

    capital ,

    There is absolutely an issue with first past the post voting systems. And frankly I think you know what the problems are.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    That people are so desperate to keep it in place.

    FTFP is never going go away if you keep voting for it lol.

    capital ,

    How surprising. A comment meant to discourage voting.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    Vote for something different than the ftfp parties.

    pingveno ,

    That’s not how it works. As long as FPTP exists, it will lock us into two parties. We have had multiple party systems that all demonstrated this principle. Some places are experimenting with alternatives on the state and local level, but it will take time.

    capital ,

    You’ve already got one response to this which is correct. I want to add to it to help explain how FPTP voting systems result in a 2 party system and simply voting for another party does not solve the issue.

    But first you’re either aware of the problem and want to encourage people to vote third party while pretending not to know how the system works or you’re actually just ignorant to the issue.

    I don’t normally like video links in discussions like this but this one is especially good and is only 6.5 mins.

    youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

    Linkerbaan ,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    Your video does not explain how voting Democrat is going to fix the FTFP system.

    People that don’t understand politics have a better understanding than people that have been frog-boiled into voting for a Genocidal Geriatric.

    capital ,

    The presidential vote isn’t where we fix the voting system. We have to work in the system we have. It’s just reality.

    My assessment of you hasn’t changed - you’re either completely ignorant or want Biden voters to change to third party to help Trump.

    Every interaction with you has a similar quality. I’m never sure if you’re just this stupid or if you know exactly what you’re doing.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    The presidential vote is where it’s fixed. Republicans have already moved to ban other voting types calling them ‘too complicated’. Democrats will join them the second their duopoly is endangered.

    Just like how they crack down on student protests and block ballot access for third parties, Democrats have no standards either.

    capital ,

    The system exists as it is…. I don’t know any other way to say this. FPTP has a spoiler problem that you can’t wish away.

    I’m not going to vote for a candidate that’s going to get maybe 2-5% of the vote.

    I would like to bet you $1000 that either the Dem or Rep candidate will win. If anyone BUT those two win, I would pay you.

    If you ACTUALLY believed anyone else will win, you’d take me up on it. What do you say?

    Linkerbaan ,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    Strange you’re including Republican in there. You believe Biden is winning right? So your money should be on Biden and any other winner would make you lose.

    capital ,

    I’m sitting here trying to convince you that FPTP results in a two party system. I’m betting on the two parties.

    YOU are the one imagining that can change by simply voting 3rd party.

    So, you down for a bet or what?

    Linkerbaan ,
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    If Biden isn’t winning what’s the point of voting for him?

    capital ,

    He is one of two possibilities.

    And you’re not going to bet because you know it too.

    And now we know you’re not ignorant to this fact. You’re encouraging 3rs party votes knowing very well they will not win.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    No Biden is zero of one possibility.

    There’s no way he’s going to beat Trump.

    capital ,

    I’m glad we finally got to you admitting 3rd parties won’t win.

    Thanks.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    I’m glad we finally got you admitting that Biden wont win.

    capital ,

    Linkerbaan logic:

    3rd parties who are lucky to get 5% of the vote can win.

    Biden, who won against Trump last time cannot win.

    Lol

    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    FPTP voting systems result in a 2 party system and simply voting for another party does not solve the issue.

    this isn’t an immutable natural law.

    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    you’re either aware of the problem and want to encourage people to vote third party while pretending not to know how the system works or you’re actually just ignorant to the issu

    false dichotomy

    crusa187 ,

    It is kind of amazing how even those disenfranchised voters will rally to support the hegemony of the “two party” corporatist rule. I suggested recently we could consider rallying behind a single issue 3rd party candidate who would end the legalized bribes and replace FPTP with a more democratic alternative, and was immediately downvoted and told it’s not possible due to FPTP.

    facepalm

    glitchdx ,

    In order for a 3rd option to be viable, the entire system must change. I’m not holding my breath.

    Between now and then, all we can do is vote for the less bad of two evils.

    helpImTrappedOnline , (edited )

    It is theoreticaly possible, but praticaly speaking it would be near impossible.

    To acomplish this, you need to get 51% of the population (who actually vote) to all vote for one person. However, with FPTP, you get one choice on the ballot. Is the average voter going to risk their vote on a 3rd party, or vote for who they belive to be the “lesser evil” of the two that have a shot at winning?

    Even if you do manage to get 51%, there’s the electoral collage. Never forget, our democracy has built in the ability to overwrite the presidential vote.

    Your first hurdle is getting any one to name an independent candidate.

    Edit: adjusted some wording to be better.

    pastabatman ,

    I agree with this. But also, this time is the closest to “end of the world” stakes we’ve had in recent memory. We have a literal criminal, rapist, and fraudster who already tried to overthrow the government once leading the polls.

    Linkerbaan ,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    2016 called they want their gaslighting back. Trump isn’t the final form of Fascism. He’s getting close but he ain’t it.

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

    didn’t you vote in the primary? why not?

    Americans got to choose between many candidates, and out of those, it’s down to 6, and of those 6, it’s only really likely 2, that’s true.

    But it isn’t quite like you imply.

    nobody158 ,

    The shitty thing is by the time my states primary pretty much every else has dropped out. We need to run the primary like a real election not piecemeal.

    StThicket ,

    I didn’t vote in the primary, because I’m not American.

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

    yes, obviously. but the point stands: there wasn’t just two candidates, and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    StThicket ,

    I understand what you are trying to say. Ultimately, there are only two to vote for. Ideally, there should be more than two parties, and more than two candidates. That’s how democracies work. What you have is a dysfunctional system that divides people in two groups, and there are no incentives to cooperate between parties. Proper voting is also suffering due to the two-party system.

    youtu.be/yhO6jfHPFQU

    In my country, the parties with the majority of votes and the ability to cooperate gets to form a government. We also try to make it easy to get people to vote, insted of your system of gerrymandering.

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

    there are 6 parties, but only two of the six are large ones at the moment.

    StThicket ,

    Yes I know, but the voting system favours the two largest. Thats why they are large. Small parties have 0% chance og getting representatives into the houses, so they are basically irrelevant.

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

    just as long as you know you’re wrong. 👍

    StThicket ,

    Yes, it’s important to defend the only thing you know, even how bad it might be. 😄

    crusa187 ,

    The RNC never intended to run a candidate other than Trump because he controls MAGA, which is what remains of their energized base. The primaries they held were “just in case” Merrick Garland actually did something useful and successfully prosecuted Trump for insurrection, which never came to pass.

    The DNC did everything they could to prevent primary elections from occurring in various states, and bullied anyone who was floating a run into submission. This included the state dept making calls to state DNC committees to cancel primaries, or remove certain candidates from their ballots. According to them, it was an insult to Biden admin and their legacy to even suggest another candidate should run. And now look where that’s gotten us.

    So no, we didn’t actually vote in primaries this year because the establishment refuses to relinquish the status quo.

    Sterile_Technique , to memes in USA presidential candidates
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    Krusty doesn’t deserve this.

    Zahtu ,

    Yeah Kristy is better than this dipshit orange, fascism and racism spilling trash can of a human meat bag.

    Grandwolf319 ,

    Although Krusty is a decent human being in the show, he is also shown to be a typical out of touch celebrity while kind of trashy still.

    Trump is like the classic trashy celebrity so imo it fits more than it doesn’t.

    moonsnotreal , to science_memes in I wish I was as bold as these authors.
    @moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-024-09775-5

    Link to the article if anyone wants it

    DaGeek247 ,
    @DaGeek247@fedia.io avatar

    That's actually a fun read

    jballs ,
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    Applications of these systems have been plagued by persistent inaccuracies in their output; these are often called “AI hallucinations”. We argue that these falsehoods, and the overall activity of large language models, is better understood as bullshit in the sense explored by Frankfurt (On Bullshit, Princeton, 2005)

    Now I kinda want to read On Bullshit

    tomkatt ,

    Don’t waste your time. It’s honestly fucking awful. Reading it was like experiencing someone mentally masturbating in real time.

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Yep. You’re smarter than everyone who found it insightful.

    Zagorath , to asklemmy in What joke, in otherwise great sitcoms, do you hate?
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    How rude they are to Jerry in Parks & Rec. Doing a rewatch of it now and wow it is way worse than I remembered, and starts way earlier. It’s not a flanderisation thing, there was a season 2 joke that made me have to pause and go online just to see how many other people felt the same way as me.

    Seraph ,
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    Definitely agree. I know it's supposed to be a joke "he's such a great guy we hate him" but it's physically hard to watch.

    cheese_greater ,

    This sorta works for Tobi Flenderson in The Office tho

    BitSound ,

    I think it works there because it’s just Michael Scott that despises him, everyone else sees him as fairly normal from what I recall.

    cheese_greater ,

    Tobi really is a lonely creep tho. Sometimes Michael goes way too far, and its ironic because they’re not super different in terms of being socially awkward and loners

    Stovetop ,

    Agreed. The only redeeming thing I can give the writers credit for is that they gave him an amazing family life. Even though he is the office punching bag, he is much more fulfilled outside of work than any other character is. That, and he also does love his job.

    SuperSaiyanSwag OP ,

    I was kinda uncomfortable with his interactions with Chris. Chris was my favorite in the show and even his meanness towards Jerry was off-putting.

    sangriaferret ,

    I find it funny because of the sheer absurdity of it. There’s absolutely no reason to dislike Jerry. He affable and unassuming, a good family man and just generally a good guy. Yet everyone inexplicably hates him, even Chris. It’s makes absolutely no sense and that disconnect is what makes it funny to me.

    If they hated him for a reason it would be mean spirited. Instead, it’s just over the top silly and fits in with the humor of the show.

    The bit where Leslie throws his painting in the lake is one of my favorite moments. It’s just so exorbitantly stupid that it makes me laugh.

    Frozengyro ,

    It feels cringe (to me) cause these type of people are often bullied in real life work places, again with no real reason.

    Zagorath ,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    Personally I don’t have as much of an issue with when they’re poking fun at him per se, but when they denegrate or damage things he has clearly worked hard on and put a lot of passion into, that’s crossing a line for me. It becomes incredibly mean-spirited.

    There are two examples in this compilation video. One at the linked time, and another at 6:33. Especially with how happy he is to see Leslie in the second clip until she destroys his art. It’s honestly heart-breaking. The pie to the face that came a little bit before that was also hard to watch and really felt mean. Dunno if that’s because of how cold and calculated it was (vs the more usual off-the-cuff comments), or because it was a physical act rather than verbal, or something else. But I didn’t like it.

    sangriaferret ,

    Ok, the time stamped one is pretty rough. They don’t usually play his reaction with such honesty.

    Dark_Dragon ,

    7:20 part got to me

    CrabAndBroom ,

    It’s the opposite of the Lil’ Sebastian thing, where there’s that horse that everyone idolizes for no discernible reason. Although with that, there’s the one character who doesn’t understand why they do that, so maybe that’s what the Jerry thing needed? Or perhaps that would have made it even sadder lol.

    sangriaferret ,

    Yeah, that would ruin the joke. If everyone hates him it’s farcical. If one person likes him then everyone else becomes a monster.

    Empricorn ,

    “no discernible reason”!? I would murder everyone in this room to bring Lil Sebastian back for 5 minutes.

    cupcakezealot ,
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    hi ron

    BitSound ,

    Watching Parks & Rec for the first time, and I also noticed this. IMO it’s missing something, maybe if only one of the characters acted that way towards him or something it would be better. He’s pretty much Meg from Family Guy, and I never really cared for that dynamic either.

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