The United Nations just voted 145-7 in favor of a resolution condemning illegal Israeli settlements in Palestine & Syria.

rxbudian , 6 months ago

Apparently condemning Israeli settlements that has been happening for years is more important than condemning the killing of the innocent Palestinians that’s happening right now

LoomingMountain , 6 months ago

I mean didn’t they do this already years ago, and nothing changed? The UN is a spineless, useless organisation. According to wiki, it condemned Israel 45 times since 2013.

craigevil , 6 months ago

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btbt , 6 months ago

Jesus fucking Christ even a majority of the anglosphere is opposing Isntrael

yogthos OP , 6 months ago

Times are a’changing

doom_and_gloom , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

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Nevoic , 6 months ago

The U.S spends more on military than the next 7 countries combined. It’d put up a good fight. Probably conquer Canada/Mexico in hours (I’d assume they would just concede the same way Paris/France conceded to the Nazis in WW2), and then we’d also have the advantage in Eurasia. We could nuke most of western Europe, and the only country that could really stop us is Russia because they also have a comparable number of nukes. If we successfully disarm them and are the sole nuclear super power in the world, I could see the U.S winning ww3 and becoming a global government.

RonPaulyShore , 6 months ago

Lol

Welt , 6 months ago

The next seven countries combined (the next eleven, in fact) are all in green in the above map. #12 is Canada, and every other country is either supporting this resolution or abstaining. The US could well win a third world war but it wouldn’t happen the way you say. Nukes won’t be used in conflicts by nation-states, only (and hopefully not) by rogue groups that get their hands on one. Nukes are a deterrent nowadays rather than a weapon.

Nevoic , 6 months ago

I don’t trust that the U.S will always do the right thing with nukes. Maybe you have unwavering faith in the good heart of the imperialist core to never use nukes in conflicts, I’m not as trusting.

Fogle , 6 months ago

Canada is also still under the monarchy so it’s not like we could side with America against the world

BurgerPunk , 6 months ago

We

USians stop identifying with those who rule over you Challenge Rating: um ackshully

If we successfully disarm them and are the sole nuclear super power in the world,

Sounds super easy

We need a smuglord but with like a helmet on for people like this

Nevoic , 6 months ago

I don’t support the U.S, and yeah I’ve been actively trying to move away from identifying as part of the U.S. Notice the first time I referred to it in my comment I called it “it”. Just a habit, sorry if I offended you though, that wasn’t my intention.

The main issue is if I say “they” instead of “we”, the vast majority of the internet assumes you’re from Europe. I want to convey I live in the United States without identifying as part of it.

Commiejones , 6 months ago

The pentagon pays $5000 on a simple trash can. Paying more money is not a good thing. A f35 costs like $75 million dollars to build and they spend almost half their existence unable to fly.

USA’s military budget is 90% graft.

brain_in_a_box , 6 months ago

Comment written with one hand under the table.

HowMany , 6 months ago

Okay, now what are they going to do about it?

Arfman , 6 months ago

Surprising Australia voted in favour this time

CanadaPlus , 6 months ago

What’s our problem, Canada?

ILikeBoobies , 6 months ago

cbc.ca/…/palestinian-un-statehood-bid-gets-thumbs…

Nothing new

CanadaPlus , 6 months ago

Even Europe and Oceania is onboard with this one, though. Don’t they usually abstain at least?

ILikeBoobies , 6 months ago

Conservatives push up more to the US than UK

It’s why we can’t get support behind CANZUK

kent_eh , 6 months ago

Don’t want to piss off the downstairs neighbours.

PaulSmackage , 6 months ago

The yapping dog of American Empire.

Orcocracy , 6 months ago

Even more than it used to be. Canadian foreign policy regarding Iraq, Vietnam, and Cuba took a very different position to the US and was on the whole quite good (for a western country). But that was all decades ago. Practically speaking, Canada no longer has its own independent foreign policy.

CanadaPlus , 6 months ago

I mean, we’re still friends with Cuba, and never did get involved in Iraq which wasn’t so long ago.

interdimensionalmeme , 6 months ago

We’re just America’s hat, what do you expect

Tankiedesantski , 6 months ago

Imagine being in such blatant violation of international law and human decency that China, Japan, and both Good and Capitalist Running Dog Korea can agree that you suck.

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

It’s pretty hilarious that any person would call the totalitarian, chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized North Korea “the Good Korea”

D3FNC , 6 months ago

Sorry, my bad.

“Best Korea” it is.

Dolores , 6 months ago

chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized

i wonder why a country under economic sanction from the US & its allies for decades might have economic trouble. i wonder why they’re rude to the US after the US bombed and murdered their people for 3 years & still occupy the southern half of their country

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

I mean the US did have talks and if you’re not willing to concede anything that’s on you. Also, military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation.

Dolores , 6 months ago

military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation

45 fucking years the US propped up, armed, and aided the dictatorial rule of conservative and military governments in South Korea. South Korea’s army still comes under US control in wartime, but sure 2 decades of just mostly corrupt “democracy” means they can just opt-out of US military garrisons. nothing bad would happen to the government that demands that, no matter how popular it is with the Korean people

if you’re not willing to concede anything

the US won’t concede basic demands like moving their troops off the border! fucking ridiculous equating Korea’s refusal to expose itself to attack with US bases thousands of miles away from the US

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

Despite this, as of 2011, 74% of South Koreans have a favorable view of the U.S., making it one of the most pro-American countries in the world.

Dolores , 6 months ago

46% of s. Koreans support unification versus 26% against, the United States constitutes the single greatest obstacle to this & Korean soverignty

What_Religion_R_They , 6 months ago

Did you know that as of 2018 Kim Jong Un has an 80% approval rating?

… In South Korea.

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

That’s crazy but true. Funny thing is that a month before the poll the guy had a 10% approval rating. It’s only after the South Korean president was discussing demilitarization with Kim in the 2018 summit did people come to trust him.

hmmm… It’s almost as if you would show some good faith that you are willing to concede and not be a nuclear crazy warmonger, people would look positively at you. Crazy isn’t it?

What_Religion_R_They , 6 months ago

You’re really desperate to make a point where there is none. ISn’T tHaT cRaZy? smuglord

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

The point is that I was criticizing Kim because he was being authoritarian and hostile towards the west. You said that the South Koreans love him though. But they liked him after he was trying to find peace and concede with the westerners. This shows that he was changing his ways. I’m assuming that you don’t want that though.

I thought I should give you the info and let you realize what’s going on, but honestly that’s on me. I should have realized you’re a smooth-brain as soon as you parroted a headline without knowing what the fuck is going on.

What_Religion_R_They , 6 months ago

This shows that he was changing his ways

LMAO im dead

This whole thread started with you blindly parroting a headline regarding South Korean pro-American 🥰🥰🥰 sentiment. What I tried to teach you, evidently failing, is that the opinion of the people regarding political entities is inconsequential and easily influenced, especially in an occupied country. You can lead a horse to water…

I recommend that you read a book, it will help you make sense of this hard difficult world 😖. Try Imagined Communities by Anderson? It is proximal to this topic.

The reality is that North Korea, with Kim as its figurehead, has always been “peaceful” and “reasonable” and prepared to give concessions, in fact they’re extremely lenient toward the west and its encroachment. You’ve correctly pointed out that the opinion of the public is easily swayed… after Trump and Moon did their press tour, and pretended to try to resolve the “Korean Problem”. He looked amenable because your authoritarian tankie redfash overlords (oops wrong side ☹) broadcasted propaganda to make it so. Interesting that when Trump wanted Americans to believe he was “getting concessions” that with a wave of the hand your media made it so… when in reality not much changed, Korea was still blockaded, and you believed it wholeheartedly. It’s really remarkable how myopic you are, blindly parroting the party line without a shred of awareness on how ironic your framing of it makes it look. Every accusation is a confession etc. etc.

I’m afraid that even with me feeding this info to you piecemeal you still won’t be able to digest it.

I thought I should give you the info and let you realize what’s going on, but honestly that’s on me. I should have realized you’re a smooth-brain as soon as you parroted a headline without knowing what the fuck is going on.

There goes that western brainpan. Vulgar and combative. Take a long walk off a short pier. PIGPOOPBALLS

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

the opinion of the people regarding political entities is inconsequential and easily influenced Is this what you say every night to feel better about how your tankie ideology is lamented by any reasonable person in a democratic

Now I can’t say I am an expert in Korean history but it seems that NK wants the US out of SK not because they’re afraid of US attacks but because they want to take over SK. But you know Kim is pretty smart keeping his people uninformed about the world outside his country since it’s probably gonna be bad for him. If people really knew that he was not willing to give up his nuclear bullshit and keeping his people perpetually in the verge of famine while their southern counterparts are economically thriving, he probably would lose a lot of his popularity. He’s not making the same mistake as East Berlin that’s for sure.

Also, I wouldn’t say that Trump got concessions from NK. I was saying that the opinion of the SK people was swayed because they saw hope since the summit was between Moon and Kim would be fruitful. The poll was after the May/2018 inter korean summit not the disastrous september/2018 singapore summit. Honestly, I wasn’t clear enough there I’ll give you that (not being sarcastic).

What_Religion_R_They , 6 months ago

But you know Kim is pretty smart keeping his people uninformed about the world outside his country since it’s probably gonna be bad for him. If people really knew that he was not willing to give up his nuclear bullshit and keeping his people perpetually in the verge of famine while their southern counterparts are economically thriving, he probably would lose a lot of his popularity. He’s not making the same mistake as East Berlin that’s for sure.

lmfao you’re actually brainwashed. Read the book I told you to read. Read up on the NIS and the NSL/NSA in South Korea. I would recommend you watch the indie documentary “Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul” but I can already imagine your reaction…

Is this what you say every night to feel better about how your tankie ideology is lamented by any reasonable person in a democratic

Also, your smug redditbrained crass way of interacting can only get you so far in any conversation before someone just tells you to educate yourself. Throwing out a “tankie!! tankie!!” and trying to put words in someones mouth in anticipation before you can even absorb a position you, self-admittedly, know nothing about is not how you learn in a conversation, and if you’re not learning or coming to any common ground then you’re just trolling. So stop, go read.

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

Sure I’ll gladly admit that to have a government agency that tampers with elections and persecutes people for having political opinions is fucked up. The practices of the NIS are akin to that of an authoritarian government, which stand against the liberal values I like. That being said, it doesn’t really hold a candle to what North Korea does with their “elections.”

I’ll also admit that I am acting like a douchebag because I think it’s fun. But you can’t come here to morally grandstand while screeching at me to read. You say all that shit when you can’t really give me any specific piece of information to bolster your arguments. You say that NK concedes stuff or whatever but you didn’t give me anything. And from the little that I’ve read just now, it looks like NK is worse than I thought. I didn’t even know anything about how they effectively force people to vote. I also thought that the food shortages might be overblown but apparently not. The best your lot could give me the inconsequential misinfo about NK and their hairstyles is not true or that SK also has human rights and democracy violations. It still doesn’t justify supporting the tyrannical government of NK.

Awoo , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

South Korea is on its FIFTH version of the country because the US continually coups it whenever the existing people aren’t doing exactly what they want. It’s called the Fifth Republic for a fucking reason. It is an occupied vassal state entirely subservient to the USA and has been ever since the US genocided one fifth of the population of Korea (all of Korea). Keep in mind that being on your FIFTH republic is remarkable when the southern dictatorship was only first formed in 1948.

The US military has also literally run korean children over with tanks, which is very funny given that this is fake propaganda levelled at another enemy of the US, but in the case of america it’s actually fucking true.

IzyaKatzmann , 6 months ago

I had no clue there were several republics kinda like France (I think?), I searched Wikipedia and it said that they are on their 6th republic, not 5th. Maybe you are off by one? Either way it’s a poor mark on the country and its governance.

Awoo , 6 months ago

Ahh yes 6th. Working from memory in most of my responses and without checking I’m pretty bad at dates and numbers tbh. It’s worse with african countries though I am one of the people that mixes up their histories all the time to my great shame. I don’t even know why it happens, I don’t do it with south american countries.

The general point stands, the stability of their government is directly tied to whether or not they’re doing what the americans want. And whenever things aren’t going precisely as desired the coups happen incredibly easily. By design.

IzyaKatzmann , 6 months ago

I wonder if someone could make a series of movie trailers for each republic with the executive producer being the US and having all sorts of poor takes.

Executive Producer: “No, no, we need LESS military oversight for the next one, SPEND MORE on practical explosions, the audience will love it!”
Director: “But sir, we already had half an hour of explosions, the most common criticism was about the confusing plot which was always interrupted by explosion sequences.”
Executive Producer: “We need those to keep the audience on their toes! We can’t plan explosion scenes we need to let the invisible hand of the free market decide and let us know!!”

Awoo , 6 months ago

Lol I can see that working.

It’s fucking weird though thinking about France being on their Fifth republic over a period since the 1700s and these 6 occurring in… 60 years.

It is impossible for any normal unpropagandised person to look at this scenario and not see something is up that’s worth scrutinising.

PolandIsAStateOfMind , 6 months ago

And France had some really legit reasons for that count like having monarchy restaurated twice and being occupied by nazis.

Tankiedesantski , 6 months ago

Also, military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation.

If war breaks out, the RoK is supposed to turn overall command of its military over to the US.

South Korea is not a sovereign state.

The_Jewish_Cuban , 6 months ago

It’s pretty hilarious that you’re so smug and up your own ass you pretend to not understand that other political ideologies exist that may differ from your own. So full of yourself and your own self aggrandizement that you can’t type a sentence without presenting it in such a way as though the other person is so stupid for not seeing things your way. Take your smarmy ass back to reddit. No one likes nor wants you around on their forums

spookedbyroaches , 6 months ago

I can’t help it it’s just so fun shitting on people who advocate for authoritarian government

Rom , 6 months ago

Post hog, liberal.

Awoo , 6 months ago

Define authority. All governments utilise authority.

btbt , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

“Authoritarianism” is a buzzword used by people who think that a government which does anything beyond letting itself get railed by corporations is overreaching, come up with better material

quaver , 6 months ago

“authoritarianism isn’t real” is the funniest take I’ve heard this year. I suggest you take a break from the internet.

brain_in_a_box , 6 months ago

I suggest you read some actual political theory.

What_Religion_R_They , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

I work in the heavy industry. “Industry 4.0” is a buzzword. Does that mean that the actual physical thing that the word supposedly describes isn’t real?

Authoritarianism is the biggest buzzword of the generation, not because it isn’t real but because it is real and it’s all around you and yet you can’t realize it. If you live in the west, or in the imperial core, you live in the world’s largest panopticon, but you don’t perceive it. You don’t perceive it because you are not politically conscious.

Part of the reason that minorities in the west, especially people living in poverty, are so keen to latch onto a leftist understanding of the world (matrix of domination for slightly less radical, onto Marxism in the most) is because they are acutely aware of the authoritarianism that weaves the fabric of your society. I want to state explicitly that one of the primary reasons that you are not aware of it is that you’re most likely part of the ingroup, or you live within the green zone which your nation’s bourgeois has prescribed to you, meanwhile most minorities are face to face with it, suffering with an ailment that is invisible to you.

But here you are calling a country you’ve never been to, and will never ever travel to, along with every country ran by an asian or brownskinned person “authoritarian”. You don’t do it because of your political knowledge, you just regurgitate a buzzword you’ve heard on TV or on social media. You’re like my grandma asking me about “that ChatGPT thing”.

The_Jewish_Cuban , 6 months ago

I can’t help being smuglord . This is why no one actually likes you. Die alone.

HorseWithNoName , 6 months ago

I’m sure they just weren’t aware that starving your whole population is simply a “differing political ideology.” Cut them some slack.

axont , 6 months ago

Uncritical support to the DPRK in its heroic struggle to rid occupied Korea of the genocidal US Empire. Uncritical support to the Juche ideology and its implementation.

kim-salute

AntiOutsideAktion , 6 months ago

You live in the largest, most expensive propaganda machine that’s ever been created by man

You’re talking about a country and an ideology that propaganda machine has been willing to burn the world with nuclear hellfire to contain for a hundred years

Learn about the things you’re talking about. “The forgotten war”

Yes. North Korea is and has always been the good guys.

vardogor , 6 months ago

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TheBroodian , 6 months ago

Read any books written by Bruce Cummings

AntiOutsideAktion , 6 months ago

That’s impossible to believe but you can swallow the idea they tell their people they’ve dug up unicorns. You believe they make everyone have the same haircut as the dictator but you can’t believe that an enemy of a country currently assisting and giving protection to a genocide could be the good guy.

vardogor , 6 months ago

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AntiOutsideAktion , 6 months ago

No they don’t, actually. And the way you brush off someone asking you to learn something with a vacuous smug affectation should be your first clue that you are indeed uneducated at least.

vardogor , 6 months ago

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AntiOutsideAktion , 6 months ago

“The forgotten war” refers to the Korean war. I’m asking you to learn about the Korean war.

“Contender” “destroying” oh my god please shut up

vardogor , 6 months ago

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AntiOutsideAktion , 6 months ago

PIGPOOPBALLS

vardogor , 6 months ago

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AntiOutsideAktion , 6 months ago

PIGPOOPBALLS

BurgerPunk , 6 months ago

smuglord

Awoo , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

they both suck, dude.

Why though? What makes you think that other than “in bad country it is bad” ?

What actual things do you know about this country that drives you to have such an emotional reaction? Do you have this reaction about any south american countries or african countries? Many of them are capitalist countries that are significantly worse off for their people. Why is your emotional reaction significantly different for this one in particular?

The answer is propaganda. Your assessment is not a levelheaded on based on any real educated understanding of the data in comparison with other countries. Your assessment is based on feels acquired through the popular beliefs. Guess where those popular beliefs come from? The same place yours have come from, with the same level of understanding that you have. It’s ignorant feels all the way down. Created by the strongest media propaganda machine ever devised in history.

Is any of this to say that it’s all fucking rosey over there? Fuck no. Most of us are not juche and believe in a mixed market approach and have large criticisms of the isolated approach. But does that mean we buy into all the bullshit spread in the west and perpetuate it uncritically? Also no. That’s what you’re seeing here.

Flyberius , 6 months ago

They genuinely are the good guys.

HorseWithNoName , 6 months ago

You should move there and leave the internet to the rest of us then. Why keep hanging out in the giant propaganda machine, right?

porcupine , 6 months ago

“love it or leave it” says the “anti-authoritarian”

Awoo , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

It’s only hilarious if you’re highly propagandised and have never examined any of the absolutely ridiculous propaganda that has led you to feel the way you do about them such as:

Using anti aircraft guns for executions (“according to south korean media” lmao)

They have to push the trains

They all have to get the same haircut

Or that they’re aggressive or something? Like what? How many wars has Korea been in since the US killed 1 fifth of its entire population in the biggest post-holocaust genocide the world has ever seen?

The shit you believe is ridiculous, why do you believe this shit? Why have you never actually said “that sounds fucking stupid”? You don’t examine anything critically at all. You just go with the flow because you’ve seen everyone else be hyper negative about it and never really actually stopped and thought about any of these utterly ridiculous things.

In the meantime, the US is responsible for starting 205 out of 248 conflicts between ww2 and 2010. And yet the DPRK is supposedly a bad rogue state? You’re out of your mind, you do not apply the same principles to one of these countries vs the other, you are guided by FEELS based on whatever propaganda has successfully taken hold in the population. You aren’t really guided by facts or real accessible information we have via the worldbank data and the UN.

BurgerPunk , 6 months ago

farquaad-point hey look, they believe western propoganda

el_abuelo , 6 months ago

Wild to me how many replies you’re getting that defend North Korea. A failed state that has a starving population with no freedoms and is completely ostracised from most of the world. By choice.

Awoo , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

A failed state that has a starving population

This is not correct. Food security in the country has drastically improved and continues to improve - FAO data - Unicef data - both support this position.

By choice.

No? The reason it’s ostracised is a UN vote that was successfully passed that has never been challenged since because the DPRK is not in or allowed to join the UN, any attempt to would be immediately veto’d by the west. This is called 1718.

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Wild to me how many replies you’re getting that defend North Korea

You see, this here is a problem. You consider simply stating factually true things that people are generally unaware of to be “defending north korea”. You live in ignorance and seek to maintain that ignorance in other people rather than view the situation in a more balanced and academic way.

What_Religion_R_They , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

the DPRK is not in or allowed to join the UN

The DPRK is in the UN. Unless you mean the UNSC, but even if it were in the UNSC they wouldn’t be able to challenge the blockade resolution.

Awoo , 6 months ago

Post was written at 4am. Genuinely not sure what I meant. No challenge can be made to resolution 1718 though because it includes the requirement for the DPRK to stop developing nuclear weapons and icbms, and that’s a non-option.

el_abuelo , 6 months ago

I’m not going to engage with someone who resorts to ad hominem attacks.

Awoo , 6 months ago

There is literally no “ad hominem” in that entire fucking comment, telling you that you don’t know about something (ignorance) is not ad hominem, dickhead. If you’re going to do reddit-tier debate-pervert shit to deliberately keep yourself in ignorance of factual information and stop yourself from ever learning anything then at least get your fucking debate-pervert shit correct.

This comment is ad hominem. Loser.

ProfessorOwl_PhD , 6 months ago

Ad hominem arguments are ones that dismiss your arguments based on insults or attacks on you personally, not just being insulting while making an argument against you.

The fact that you don’t know that (or can’t tell the difference between them) just demonstrates your ignorance, so in this particular instance they weren’t even being insulting, they were simply stating a fact.

el_abuelo , 6 months ago

You live in ignorance and seek to maintain that ignorance in other people

Quite literally the definition of argumentum ad hominem. Attacking my character as well as my motivations, neither of which are the subject of the discussion and are only being used in a fallacious way in an attempt to cement their argument. Their follow-up just demonstrates why it’s not worth the time to engage with someone who makes such fallacious bad faith arguments.

The preceding paragraphs were attacking my argument and would have made an interesting argument otherwise.

ProfessorOwl_PhD , 6 months ago

No, you dumbfuck, there is no argument attached to those insults. There is nothing in their comment saying that you are wrong because of your ignorance, which is what an ad hominem argument is - we are pointing out why you are wrong, and then calling you a lentil brained moron.
This is stuff they made me learn at school over 20 years ago as a 13 year old. You should be embarrased that you can’t even get the most basic fallacy right.

el_abuelo , 6 months ago

You okay?

ProfessorOwl_PhD , 6 months ago

I know you feel smart for taking a holier than thou attitude, but you’re just revealing you’re too dumb to come up with an actual response.

Bloobish , 6 months ago

Uh or folks we got ourselves a propaganda consumer!

Tankiedesantski , 6 months ago

chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized North Korea “the Good Korea”

Yeah, nobody can be morally good if they’re poor and ostracized. Certainly not some guy who started a religion that underpins much of Western morality to this day.

Commiejones , 6 months ago

90% of Gazans experience severe food insecurity whereas 30% of israelis are obese. Whos the “good” country? the fat asses or the ones starving them?

socsa , 6 months ago

Is racism against Koreans allowed in Lemmy?

library_napper , 6 months ago

The settlements have always been recognized as illegal, but I guess its good to reaffirm it.

Its a war crime to move a civilian population into a military occupied region. This crime has been ongoing for decades.

echodot , 6 months ago

Wait the UK voted in favour? Literally just yesterday they were whining about Pro Palestinian marches in London. Then a bunch of right wing fuck nuggets turned up to fight to the pro Palestinian marches, except they turned up in the wrong place and ended up fighting the police instead.

I guess they realise their position is untenable on that point. The general public hate them and they know it.

yogthos OP , 6 months ago

It’s becoming impossible to spin this as anything other than a genocide that the west is facilitating at this point.

library_napper , 6 months ago

They are not condemning Israel for the current assault on Gaza. They are condemning Israel for the settlements (which is a blatant war crime that has long been criticized by every country except Israel and the US iirc.

kent_eh , 6 months ago

They are condemning Israel for the settlements

The illegal settlements that are one of the contributing factors that led to Hamas growing in support.

Aria , 6 months ago

Ukraine is supporting Palestine??

yogthos OP , 6 months ago

weirdly they voted for the ceasefire, maybe cause Zelensky got snubbed by Israel for a visit

Chapo_is_Red , 6 months ago

End war there and get support back to Ukraine.

Just guessing

Commiejones , 6 months ago

Well israel has been distracting sugardaddy biden and Zelensky wants all the missles to himself.

bartolomeo , 6 months ago

I’m not sure this has any practical application. 6 years ago it passed 155-7.

library_napper , 6 months ago

Citing it helps people understand the historical context when learning about what’s actually going on there

bartolomeo , 6 months ago

I guess so, and provides truth in contrast to exclusively hearing a narrative.

FelixMortane , 6 months ago

Fuck, Canada you keep embarrassing me recently.

zerfuffle , 6 months ago

Dude fr idk what our government’s foreign policy goals even are.

ComradeChairmanKGB , 6 months ago

Canada’s been an embarrassment its entire history, so nothing new.

corsicanguppy , 6 months ago

We have some populists roping in the hillbillies right now. It’s amazing how well they’re weaponizing stupid and pushing our PM around.

lps , 6 months ago

@yogthos
Of course Canada voted against it....good lapdog;)