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slimarev92 ,

Fascist piece of shit. I’d love to never hear anything about him again.

phoneymouse ,

Cya

dubyakay ,

I can’t believe reddit used to love this dude.

Gsus4 , (edited )
@Gsus4@programming.dev avatar

All media gave him free uncritical publicity for decades. They inflated his ego, branded him as a genius and built him a legion of fanatics. Now the media see the monster they created, but it is too late to undo :/

PS: I just noticed this is the tech community…why is this posted here?

androogee ,

Space X is a technology company, why wouldn’t it be posted here?

The media doesn’t give a shit. They’re doing trump AGAIN, same exact way they did before.

Profit has killed ethics in so much of journalism.

Gsus4 , (edited )
@Gsus4@programming.dev avatar

this is a mere business update about a tech company…nothing about tech that any other company couldn’t do.This exact same thing could have happened 100 years ago with some airline magnate who decided to move headquarters for some legal/accounting/marketing reason :D

Tech is about new products, principles, ideas, innovation, patents, methods, engineering, achievements, drawbacks, etc.

PS: !business

nucleative ,

There was that moment it time when he was the underdog doing cool stuff. It seemed like he couldn’t screw up, because his companies were hitting the ball out of the park one after the other.

Then the pedo guy debacle taught us who he really is.

PanArab ,

Yes, that cave incident proved who he was to those who did not know his racist apartheid background

Cethin ,

To be fair, not that he deserves it, I still don’t know if we have enough information to say for certain that he agreed with the apartheid stuff. We know he benefited from it and hasn’t said anything against it. We can also safely assume he’d agree with it now, but I can’t say at the time that anyone should have assumed any more than him just benefiting from racism, which can be said of almost anyone who isn’t a person of color in the west.

rottingleaf ,

We can also safely assume

There’s a saying in Russian “ради красного словца не пожалеет и отца” (“for a nice-looking word won’t spare even father”). By that very law “safely assume” is usually used where no, it’s not safe to assume something.

FiskFisk33 ,

it wasn’t just reddit, it felt like half the world saw him as that iron man dude

Ragnarok314159 ,

It didn’t help he had a cameo in the movie.

filister ,

I actually used to admire this guy, based on the image he had created for himself (self-educated in rocket science, which I highly doubt) but the Thai cave incident and calling one of the divers pedo, opened my eyes.

I_poop_from_there ,

Same here, I used to have this image in my head of a eccentric entrepreneur pushing technology to the max with ‘fuck you money’.

Sure he said some crazy shit sometimes, but it kind of felt like he didn’t have much of a filter.

Around the time of the Thai cave thing this started to change, but I still gave him the benefit of the doubt until that point.

After that, things just went down hill…

Joelk111 ,

I think kinda everyone did. I never loved the guy, I got weird vibes and thought he was majorly overrated, but I thought he was fine, and I respected the work he’d attached his name to.

Hell, I still respect the hell out of starlink, as someone who had dial-up or old style sattelite with 15GB/mo limits until I moved out of my parents house 6 years ago. That shit’s cool as hell, I would’ve killed for it as a kid, and my dad did shell out for it when it became available.

I don’t really attribute anything cool that’s come out of Elon’s companies to him any more though, in my mind all the credit goes to the talented leaders and engineers that are “under” him. There is something to be said about bankrolling these things, I suppose, but I don’t think it’s as noble a mission as we all once thought. He just wants to be liked by people and make money.

masquenox ,

I think kinda everyone did.

No he didn’t. Capitalists don’t fool leftists - but nobody ever listens to them, right?

AceFuzzLord ,

Pretty sure most people had some admiration for him. I, for one, admired the whole thing of him selling flamethrowers. Things change when you learn how much of a scumbag someone is.

Ragnarok314159 ,

He lied about his education. If you read a Wikipedia article on the Apollo engine you now know as much about rocket surgery as Elon.

It’s the same type of “I’m smart” that Trump has.

Gestrid ,

There was a time when I… well, I didn’t really follow him all that much, but I didn’t have any reason to dislike him. That changed when he tried to back out of buying Twitter.

At the time I was unhappy with how Twitter was handling its problems. I was hoping things would improve with new ownership. When he backed out, I started to see what kind of person he really was: someone who thought he could do basically whatever he wanted.

By the time he actually did but Twitter, I was glad the government actually stuck it to him and made him go through with the purchase. And I’m glad Twitter is failing because of his own blunders. I’m hoping it eventually dies (I’m already trying to move on to other platforms like Bluesky or Mastodon. Just waiting for people I follow to move to them.) and that he’s still left with money he hasn’t made back after that purchase.

EnderMB ,

Let’s not pretend it was just Reddit. The man literally got a shout-out in Star Trek. He had a lot of people fooled.

masquenox ,

Gee… a capitalist world fawning over capitalists?

Who woulda thunk it?

Alexstarfire ,

Give me a break. There’s a lot of people that people fawn over that turn out to be huge pieces of shit. Just look at Bill Cosby. Not really sure why you’re singling out capitalism.

masquenox ,

Not really sure why you’re singling out capitalism.

And who did Bill Cosby make money for, again? Who protected Bill Cosby and allowed him all that power?

Halosheep ,

Is the capitalism in the room with you right now?

Damn dude, capitalism isn’t the boogeyman you can’t just blame everything bad on it lol

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Yes it is.

WindyRebel , (edited )

But your argument, from what I read, is that they fawned over him because he made money. You’re specifically calling out the business/monetary side:

a capitalist world fawning over capitalists

No, they fawned over him because they liked his character and persona in public.

___ ,

I don’t think he fooled anyone. The guy was literally helping the environment and advancing the space age. Then he started using drugs and went off the rails. He’s like Kanye. His music was good, the creator just went nuts.

EnderMB ,

My own personal opinion of him is that he’s a shrewd businessman in a world that prefers businessmen over creators. The second the public eye shifted to him he clearly had some mental episode that has only been heightened by drug use and being egged-on by the alt-right and social commentators like Rogan. Ironically, he’s become a creator, but his content is the actions of a broken billionaire lashing out.

masquenox ,

The guy was literally helping the environment

No he wasn’t. Capitalists don’t cure the disasters they create - they just find different ways of profiting off it.

the creator just went nuts.

No, he didn’t - he just showed his true nature. That is all.

___ ,

You see all of the electric cars on the road now? Tesla saw an opportunity to make money, and it paved a path to lower carbon emissions (eventually). Even the blind chicken catches a worm. Capitalism isn’t all bad, it’s the greed it breeds that’s bad. The world isn’t black and white.

masquenox ,

You see all of the electric cars on the road now?

You mean those things that aren’t public transport? Those things?

Tesla saw an opportunity to make money, and it paved a path to lower carbon emissions (eventually) still profiteering from privatized transport while pretending it was fixing anything.

FTFY.

Capitalism isn’t all bad, it’s the greed it breeds that’s bad.

Capitalism is literally just a set of excuses and pretexts to justify gross economic parasitism - old-style concepts such as “greed” doesn’t even hold a candle to that.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, let’s be clear here, in NuTrek. That’s not exactly a mark of quality.

people_are_cute ,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Everyone would have still loved him had he stayed away from Twitter and worked with a low profile. But he uad to toot his own horn at every chance and let his true self get exposed.

Filthmontane ,

I used to love that dude, too. I also used to go on Reddit though. Thankfully, I’ve outgrown both.

lefty7283 ,
@lefty7283@lemmy.world avatar

Only 7 years ago!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7FuAswPW0

Red_October ,

It’s almost funny really. Way back when, his goals were commendable. The proliferation of electric cars was an Eco-friendly dream. Tesla battery projects were poised to expand renewable energy source utilization. Basically everything SpaceX was doing with reusable rockets was just really cool to the nerd demographic. All he had to do was shut the fuck up, let the work speak for itself, and people would still like him. Not without black marks on his record, of course, but on balance, people would probably like him.

But no. Elmo couldn’t shut the fuck up, a problem he continues to have at every turn, and people learned who he really is. His electric vehicle baby stopped being the scrappy upstart with teething problems, and started being a manufacturing disaster that had loose production tolerances matched only by the loose tolerances on what qualified as acceptable working conditions. SpaceX decided that cluttering orbit with thousands of disposable satellites was cool, and the environment and astronomy could fuck off. The only stories about Tesla Batteries that followed were about how quickly they lost their capacity and how expensive they were to replace. And Elmo himself bought a globally known communications company, immediately obliterated it’s value, and turned it into a cesspit of literal Nazis. And this is the abridged list.

All Elon Musk had to do was shut the fuck up and people would have liked him. Just goes to show that “Just be yourself” is really shitty advice for some people.

Ragnarok314159 ,

There were a lot of engineers making noise about Elon being a complete fucking idiot a long time ago. People were dismissing it as jealousy, but it was one of those quiet industry secrets.

Lo and behold, Elon was never accepted into a doctorate program and there is a bunch of shady shit about him even having a B.S. in physics, looks more like he failed out of the program and got the degree after a large donation from his father.

Elon started believing his own bullshit and exploded himself for being a fucking loser rich kid who has done nothing but funded some projects smart people told him to fund.

Red_October ,

Also don’t forget, he buys companies that are already successful and then rewrites their history to say he founded them, and then he tells engineers to do a thing and takes the credit when those engineers figure out how to do it.

I will, however, readily believe that most of the Cybertruck was actually his idea, probably initially drawn in crayon.

Yewb ,

Doesnt he have a fiduciary responsibility to the share holders? How is this unnecessary move going to help increase their value?

Please lets think of the shareholders!

Celestus ,

SpaceX is not publicly traded, so there are no (public) shareholders to be beholden to

Yewb ,

There are stake holders that are not elon he only has like 54% still a fiduciary responsibility

Lemonparty ,

Unless I’m mistaken they’ve always been based in Texas. Like look at their corporate license, they’re incorporated in Texas. SpaceX isn’t moving shit, he’s just talking out his ass per usual.

Wytch ,

I know that this is vile and sick and cruel but goddamn, that headline is so fucking batshit stupid I laughed out loud.

What a colossal dipshit.

MrMcGasion ,

No way that’s the real reason, the real reason is taxes. So many California millionaires move to Texas for the low tax, only to realize once they’re there that it’s a shitty state with a barely-functioning power grid. Unfortunately it never seems to click for most of them that the low taxes is a big part of why they don’t have a competent state government.

Wytch ,

If it isn’t, then it’s worse, because that means he’s only saying it out of cruelty and petty malice. And it means I now loathe him somehow more than I already did.

BallsandBayonets ,

I’m sure they’re aware, they just don’t care. Being wealthy they can buy more than their fair share of the power grid, or any other utility or government service, for less than they would pay in taxes in a functioning state.

Freefall ,

I had to pause as my brain processed it, returning only “yep…ok…um, sure…”

BrightCandle ,

He is just a continuous liar, its about taxes it always is.

ayyy ,

Billionaires don’t pay taxes anyways, silly.

ByteOnBikes ,

This is hilarious. With the Texas electrical system, there’s going to be days when they cant operate.

My company cancelled opening up a campus there because of that issue!

nomous ,

He could drop a few billion into TX power grid infrastructure and probably buy quite a bit of goodwill.

RidgeDweller ,

Dude could foot the bill to end world hunger. Doubt either would happen anytime soon. The last charitable thing I can remember him doing was offering that dumbass submarine in the Thai cave rescue before calling the actual rescuer a pedo.

vaultdweller013 ,

Also investing into local infrastructure or running your own seperate seperate infrastructure is more of a Fordian thought process. Which has been all but abandoned by the modern corporate class. I legit dont get why companies with large campuses specifically with large parking lots arent fallibg over themselves to build awnings with solar panels on top.

Don_alForno ,

Sounds like taxes with extra steps.

Gestrid ,

*Taxes with fewer steps.

No need for all that pesky tax paperwork, save for end-of-year tax filings.

SkunkWorkz , (edited )

Because he is not really moving. Moving the HQ doesn’t mean moving the entire company. He is just moving the address of where the corporation is registered and only move the finance and admin department to Austin. Texas has no corporate income tax.

Just like how he “moved” Tesla to Austin. and turned the office in California into a R&D hub. So basically every Tesla employee in California stayed in California.

Bluefalcon ,

Why are we the U.S. people funding this?

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Dude we’re like a 50-50 split on whether or not to put Nazis back into power. Collectively, we’re dumb as rocks.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

That’s insulting to rocks.

Freefall ,

HOLDUP…are we not rocks‽

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Not unless your name is Dwayne Johnson.

Bluefalcon ,

I will not standby while you slander rocks.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Good, get the fuck out!

danikpapas ,

I don’t know why you guys hate on Elon. Should have the right to know what happening to their children. Schools shouldn’t be hiding anything from the parents.

dustyData ,

You mean the guy that mistreated his own daughter so bad after she came out as trans that she even changed her legal name just to not be associated with him in any shape or form? The guy who said “can’t win them all” when asked about the topic? You mean you can’t think of a reason why nobody likes that guy?

almar_quigley ,

In the case of abuse at home should the school tell the parents if the kids report it? Where do you draw the line for privacy and what difference does it make if the parents are aware their kid gos by different pronouns at school? Why do so many people look at kids like they are property…? And this is coming from someone who can’t stand being around kids most of the time…

Adanisi ,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

Should have the right to know what happening to their children. Schools shouldn’t be hiding anything from the parents.

I hate to break it to you, but if a child tells the school before they tell their own damn parents, there’s a reason for that.

Duamerthrax ,

“You’re a pedophile.”

Burstar ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

For the inevitable report the mods will get: this is directly quoting Elon Musk accusing a volunteer trying to save lives of paedophilia just for disagreeing with him.

InternetUser2012 ,

You don’t know why people hate on him??? Do you live under a rock?

ArmoredThirteen ,

Schools are often where abused kids are able to build trust with adults and actually talk about their home life. Sure there’s plenty the school should inform the parents of but some things could do serious damage. If they aren’t already, teachers should be getting training on when and how to make that judgement call

Mediocre_Bard ,

You are wrong. Students develop independent identity at school. Parents are not entitled to every detail of their child’s life.

andrewrgross ,

This is actually a misrepresentation of the law.

The law bans school districts from requiring teachers to report if students start experimenting with different pronouns.

Teachers can still report this to parents. There is nothing barring them from doing so. The only change is that they aren’t policed by their school district.

Technically, this is actually the classically conservative position!

This whole thing is extremely stupid. Parents should take care of their own shit. You want to know what your kid is thinking? Talk to them. Demanding that the trusted adults in their lives who DO pay attention to them narc for you is a weak-ass move for parents who run to the nanny state to help them raise their kids because they don’t know how to manage their own damn family life.

Axle182 ,

Aww sowwy Elon ❄️

aesthelete ,

I think it’s a great idea to move to the #1 ranked Texas! /s

cnbc.com/…/10-states-worst-quality-of-life-americ…

yessikg ,
@yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The biggest surprise is that Florida is not in the list

arefx ,

If you can avoid the super political people, florida is hella dope. Is it crazy, sure, but theres tons of cool shit to do and has absolutely beautiful nature. (im not from florida either lol NYer here)

Pilferjinx ,

Is it safe for minorities? PoC and LGBTQ?

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Stick to major metro areas. Orlando on south. Once you get away from the beaches and tourist areas, it’s farms and swamps and small towns. If you’re paranoid come down to South Florida, we have a huge gay population, gay beaches, etc. My (gay male couple) neighbors are always out doing something, flags in tow.

As far as minorities / POC, shit … that’s half of everyone. You’ll have to go looking for trouble or be stupid or unaware and stumble into a less reputable area to get into trouble.

However do plan on having your car broken into.

Laurentide ,
@Laurentide@pawb.social avatar

No mention of trans people, which is odd given that Florida is a Do Not Travel state for its government’s efforts to criminalize being transgender.

nobleshift , (edited )
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Trans folks fall under Minorities, sorry I didn’t’t call them out by name. I can say that most people in SF don’t care. Oh sure you’ll hear someone’s old grandmother from the old country mutter something in a foreign language every blue moon, but in practice no one cares.

We have a lot of people from a lot of places that are less tolerant.

If you can drive like a fucking asshole, take 10x too long at the self checkout, and speak 5 Spanish phrases, no one will have any idea you’re from someplace else.

[edit] I’ll also add we have the nicest nude beach in all of Florida , and it is open and friendly to all and takes absolutely nothing to start a party. Just adjust to the fact that about 10% of the people will be ‘Baywatchy’, the rest are just folks, folks who may not work out, but surprisingly do an awful lot of personal grooming.

arefx ,

Well my Trans friend moved down there and has been happy for 5 years, so I don’t know I’ll ask them for you.

Freefall ,

The One Star State. At this point, he kinda belongs there.

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

If SpaceX moves, and it’s worker’s are unwilling/unable to move; does that grant them severance?

I’d take that out.

Crikeste ,

Disney did something similar recently and fucked over some of their employees because they eventually decided against it. Might be able to find your answer there.

wintermute_oregon , (edited )

Severance is not required by law. So no, it doesn’t grant them severance.

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Severance is required by law.

Where? In America?

I’m afraid not.

wintermute_oregon ,

Sorry missed a word.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I hate this clown

pivot_root ,

That’s insulting to clowns.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Right, sorry

doingthestuff ,

There are a million reasons to move out of California but there are a million reasons to not go to Texas.

hessenjunge ,

I think this works better when the numbers are not equal:

There are a thousand reasons to move out of California but there are a million reasons to not go to Texas.

vaultdweller013 ,

Also why not relocate to Nevada, Arizona, or fuck even Idaho would could be better than Texas. Idaho is the least developed out of those three and even then it still gets a tonne of advantages of being in the rocky mountain/ western states region.

profdc9 ,

I really think that Musk is like the modern Citizen Kane, and we need a new Orson Welles to show the depths of his depravity.

jaybone ,

Except rosebud is the type of weed he smokes.

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