My friends were talking about this the other night (one is an investment banker and the other is in healthcare consulting). I just bit my tongue for most of the conversation because the thought is horrifying. Neither of them mentioned what effects it would have on patient care but they were in agreement that it is a losing idea because most practices cannot see many efficiency gains to make it a worthwhile investment. So the strategy will fail but not before fucking up many people’s lives in the process.
The smear campaign is born out of a combination of factors, including the need to be right and have his or her “truth” become the prevailing script, retaining status and standing (making sure that his or her inner hidden shame doesn’t become public), and maintaining control of his or her image. The woman or man high in narcissistic traits curates her or his public persona very carefully; appearing successful, accomplished, and together is all-important.
The word is based on a Greek guy, Narcissus, who rejected all sexual and romantic advances. One of the suitors he spurned prayed to Nemesis that he should love what he cannot have. So Nemesis made him fall in love with his reflection and starve to death. It’s a story about how hostile Greek culture was to asexuality. Nemesis is the god of divine punishment for hubris. The Greeks didn’t understand asexuality, and thought it meant that the person in question thought they were above all other mortals. This is where the association with big ego comes from. It’s from Greeks misunderstanding asexuality as hubris.
Also Narcissus was 16. Anyone who thinks he was the bad guy in that story is a pedo. And anyone who uses “n*rcissist” as an insult is sus
Lol, first, lots of english words have their origin in greek or roman historical figures but few of them actually bear any resemblance to their origin in contemporary usage
second, the common usage likely came from the fact that Narcissus was in love with himself, not that he was asexual
Casting the usage of the word ‘narcissist’ as being an intentional reference to a marginalized sexual preference instead of it’s common and even documented definitions is a bit overzealous
Narcissus was cursed to fall in love with his reflection by a god. It’s not actually one of his character traits, it’s just how he died. The story is one of Greeks mistaking asexuality for egotism. If someone uses the cultural reference, I’m going to assume they’ve mistaken asexuality for egotism and they’re probably a pedo.
That’s interesting context on the root of the word, but just because the name of the personality disorder was inspired by Greek mythology doesn’t mean the word’s use today is invalid.
Words change and adapt new meanings. Etymology tracks where words come from, but those roots don’t dictate how new words are formed. The word “narcissism” has been in use for over 100 years and while people might know it has ties to the myth, there isn’t anyone who would use it to mean “this person is just like Narcissus.”
If we followed your logic, we’d have to stop using words like atlas, cereal, music, mentor, morphine, nemesis, and so many other words that come from names of people/gods in Greek mythology lest someone assume we mean some detail from the inspiring myth that most people don’t even know about.
I assure you, it does not mean “neurodivergent” and most neurodivergent people are not narcissistic. However, capitalism, isolation, insecurity (advertising), lack of community, hyperindividualism, all creates a good recipe for creating a nation of narcissistic people. And so we get lots of flavors:
-intellectual narcissists: only “smart” people are valid, and they determine who and what are smart ofc as if it was objective.
-moral narcissists: super common, only “moral” position is theirs, they are an extremely good person in their eyes and a savior who must give “help” and “advice”
-financial narcissists: don’t even need to be rich, just have to feel superior to people poorer than themselves. Tons of them monitor homeless people to an EXTREMELY CREEPY level and may even involve some moral narcissism by claiming the homeless are all bad people who steal, or physical narcissism by claiming all homeless are drug addicts
-physical narcissists: lots of varieties
–weight narcissists: feel superior based on their weight compared to others. Whether that’s being big or little.
–physical competency narcissists: often have phobias about physical disability, often will excessively loft and may even abuse steroids or other drugs to be in “perfect” health
–beauty narcissists: see The Picture of Dorian Gray, think of people who will only associate with other beautiful people (and for a bonus game, think of how these types of narcissists pay for programs that are basically eugenics along these parameters - the Olympics, modeling, beauty pageants, actors amd actresses, MENSA, churches, etc - they all try to fish for people with good genes so they can live vicariously through their child, a life free of shame and uncomfortable emotions. ).
–racial narcissists: white supremacists, other racial superiority groups
an inability to perspective take, can’t agree to disagree
demand for perfectionism. Their version of “perfect” is based on value statements, not anything actually measurable or achievable (so they can always keep you striving).
Sensitive to shame and jealousy
Entitled, controlling
So eg a parent who is a gender narcissist (to use the term loosely) like Elon Musk will react by
ignoring the other person’s wants, concerns, thoughts
demand their kid be “perfect” to Elon’s standards (which will never be achievable- there will always be another demand)
Use their kids as a proxy to enact their shame through, get wildly jealous when their kids surpass the shame they feel because they themselves can’t escape it. Meaning, Elon feels shame and jealousy that his daughter did what he could never do - endure the “shame” of being trans.
He thinks it’s appropriate to force her and others to be cis, and he tries to publicly shame her (he thinks everyone is sensitive to shame like he is, bc he can’t perspective take) to force her into good behavior
The formula becomes quite clear and predictable once you understand what’s happening. That’s VERY different than someone with low serotonin counting tiles over and over again, or someone with a panic attack crying from fear. Partially because it’s a series of beliefs that can theoretically be unlearned over time. There’s no medication for it because it’s like learning a language incorrectly - how can you make someone forget a whole language with a drug? You can’t, you just start where they are at and teach them as much as they can learn and WANT to learn, each day. This is the impact individuals have on culture.
Hey look it’s pseudoscience. Also your username appropriates Austronesian culture disrespectfully. Makes sense. Bigots in one area tend to be problematic in other ways.
Maybe if I was bad at arguing. But if they answer the questions I’ve given them, I have another point that confirms my argument quite nicely. That they haven’t answered is likely because they see the trap and want to avoid it. They gave up. That’s fine, I still won the argument if they withdraw.
I’m assuming it’s a defense mechanism. If they see what trump posts unfiltered they might accidentally interpret it exactly how it sounds. If they don’t read it right away, they give the propagandists time to fluff it up a bit so it’s easier for them to swallow.
This. Conservatives want their politicians saying immigrants are hurting american jobs. Saying immigrants are “vermin poisoning the blood of the nation” is a bit too mask off/hood on for most.
Anyone who works in healthcare can tell you this. In fact, private equity almost always makes things worse. In principal, the idea of buying up struggling businesses and getting them on their feet to sell them back for a profit is a pretty cool, normal idea. One could imagine how it’s a sort of second chance for mismanaged businesses or businesses that ran into a streak of bad luck. In practice, it’s just a subscription to vulture capital.
She just turned black? Has he not been paying attention for the past 4 years? (Rhetorical question. We all know the answer to that is “no, of course he hasn’t, because he’s so fixated with himself!”)
Just like those prescription glasses that you leave in the sun but aren’t all that effective in cars because the glass blocks the UV. We hate the non-working sunglasses folks. Many people are saying…
Just…turns black. I don’t know why we’d think anyone’s weird for saying that, seems totally normal. Who said weird?!
The Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses have been designed to help people develop a relaxed attitude to danger. At the first hint of trouble they turn totally black and thus prevent you from seeing anything that might alarm you.
I said this in another thread, but “things happening/existing before you know about them” is something I’m working on with my child, not something a presidential candidate should struggle with.
Yeah I was going to say that this is either from Americans dying of the new covid strain/being really old or Russians being sent to Ukraine. That is what’s shrinking his followers. They’re not getting less racist.
Demographics will bring about the extinction of the republican traitor filth. Delaying for a few cycles may be all that’s necessary to save the Republic.
It’s been remarkably resilient over the decades. The Civil War didn’t kill the mentality. Reconstruction didn’t kill the mentality. The Great Depression and New Deal didn’t kill the mentality. You can’t count on it going away on its own.
You can’t take it for granted that those newly formed majority-minority groups will be further to the left. Just for starters, Democrats took for granted that Latino groups in Florida and Texas would vote for them, and it hasn’t always worked out.
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