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FoxBJK , in 1 death reported at Burning Man while festival attendees remain stuck in the Nevada desert from heavy rains
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Climate change is only going to make this event harder and more dangerous in the future. I just hope the death toll stays at 1.

bassomitron ,

Agreed, it’d be a little unnerving if the toll reverted back to 0.

BaroqueInMind , (edited )
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it’d be a little unnerving if the toll reverted back to 0.

If it did, then that was probably Ozzie Osborne waking up from his daily heroine overdose.

Followupquestion ,

Do you think he’s into Wonder Woman, or is he an MCU loyalist for his daily heroine?

cedarmesa , (edited )
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💀

Astroturfed ,

Zombie would be an improvement on the personality of most burners.

Blastasaurus ,

Honestly, for an event this size, a single death should surely be in the odds.

Cryophilia ,

I believe the death was unrelated to the weather.

FlyingSquid , in Children hit hardest by the pandemic are now the big kids at school. Many still need reading help
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My daughter, much to our chagrin (especially her librarian mother) hates reading books. We think it’s because of her ADHD. But we have made damn sure her reading skills are up to par. And they are. I wish more parents would take an active role in their child’s education.

BonesOfTheMoon , in Facebook and Instagram may offer paid, ad-free plans in Europe to sate EU privacy concerns

I can’t think who would pay for Facebook. They should pay people to be on there it’s so bad.

Infinity13 ,

Lots of people i think. Meta has lots of brain dead users

randomname01 ,

A lot of people are totally unwilling to pay for digital services, especially those that were originally free to access. Like yeah, it feels good to to call people on fb idiots I guess, but that’s not really an argument for their willingness to pay for fb.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I just find most people hate it even if they use it myself.

Stamets , in Nursing homes in New Jersey battle COVID-19 surge as hospitalizations and deaths caused by new variants jump across the US
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Not a surprise. No one took it seriously the first time which meant we were doomed. Now all I’m hearing from people are how this variant is “even less deadly than the not deadly covid”. Guess I didn’t lose family to covid after all.

JudahBenHur ,

yeah I didnt watch my mother’s funeral on a monitor. I’m sorry for your losses. I lost a cousin, additionally. Wife and I got it in early August, and we both still get very tired if we exert ourselves too much (like clean the bathroom)

Vorticity ,

Ugh, I’m not looking forward to this… I just caught it for the first time. I really hope that the effects don’t linger for me.

JudahBenHur ,

so I got out of the woods pretty fast. I was symptomatic on friday, tested positive on saturday. I was asymptomatic by Tuessay and testing negative on Wednesday.

I also have a high amount of vaccinations, and was using NONS (Nitric Oxide Nasal Spray) from the day I got infected through the entire infection.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117664/

www.thelancet.com/journals/lansea/…/fulltext

My wife, who wasn’t going into risky places like I was, wasn’t usung the NONS until I tested positive, so probably two days post infection.

Her illness took about 5 days longer to subside, and she was testing positive at 12 days from first positive test. She couldnt read at one point, saying the words on her phone were all jumbled together. It was really frightening. She’s still unable to do much, and winds up wiped out after walking maybe 100-150m and needs a short rest.

Its steadily improving, but she’s very concerned about it.

GentlemanLoser ,

Yep. So short sighted. Wait till we discover that in fifty years kids who got Covid are going to have XYZ health issues. Think chicken pox - only adults who had it as a kid can get shingles later in life.

We don’t know shit about the impact of this virus yet.

P.S. I’m sorry you lost family to this. I would be so angry 😠

MelodiousFunk ,
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Wait till we discover that in fifty years kids who got Covid are going to have XYZ health issues.

Which will be blamed on the vaccines because time is a flat circle.

Stamets , in Law enforcement seeks help to identify barns in BTK serial killer cold case investigations
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Not entirely sure why they waited nearly 50 years to ask for help. Wish them luck on finding it though. Hopefully things didn’t change that much in the region and its easier to locate.

Earthwormjim91 ,

What? It’s only been a few months.

BTK was only arrested in 2005 and the Osage County Sheriff only got the drawings in question from Kansas police in January this year when his office opened the investigation.

There have been other investigations into cold cases around the area since he was arrested but none have turned up any links. This case is just the evidence finally making its way around to this office so they can investigate.

They also found more new evidence last month which is what has led to this announcement.

drewsipher , in DeSantis' Florida redistricting map is unconstitutional and must be redrawn, judge says

Ohios maps been being battled over for a while this Gerry meandered bullshit turned my state from purple to red and it’s insane

ohlaph ,

It’s thair plan.

stormtrooper , in DeSantis' Florida redistricting map is unconstitutional and must be redrawn, judge says

The only way they can win is if they cheat, so they think any loss was from the opposition cheating.

gregorum ,

Every accusation is a confession

oo1 , in UK rents rise faster in deprived areas – and drag more people into poverty

rents are driven by mortgage rates now - what the fuck.
I can just hear those fucking thatcherites and blairites shitting out their free market rhetoric all over the place.

still, people keep voting for it, so it must be working for the upper middle .

GiddyGap ,

rents are driven by mortgage rates now

That’s normal. When it gets more expensive to buy, more people are forced into renting, which increases demand for rentals, which increases the price of rentals.

Rent control is how many societies and communities deal with it.

exploding_whale ,

Rent control leading to famously affordable rents in New York and San Fransisco.

kux ,
@kux@kbin.social avatar

Just because some authorities implement it poorly doesn't mean it can't be effective. i just looked up new york rent control and it says

To qualify for rent control, a tenant must have been continuously living in an apartment since July 1, 1971, or be a qualifying family member who succeeded to such tenancy. When vacant, a rent-controlled unit becomes "rent stabilized", except in buildings with fewer than six units, where it is usually decontrolled. In units within single and two-family homes, the tenant must have resided in the unit continuously since March 31, 1952, to qualify for rent control. Once the unit becomes vacant, it is decontrolled.[4][5] Rent control does not generally apply to units built after 1947. wikipedia

well then what is the fucking point? and rent stabilisation seems no better

exploding_whale ,

“tHatS noT rEaL ReNt coNtRoL.”

wildeaboutoskar ,
@wildeaboutoskar@lemmy.world avatar

We have social housing in the UK which is rent capped and it gives people an element of stability. It can work well

FlyingSquid , in 1 death reported at Burning Man while festival attendees remain stuck in the Nevada desert from heavy rains
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I hate to sound callous, but I don’t feel much sympathy for a rich person who went out to the desert to pretend to be a hippie and didn’t check the weather forecast.

Fecundpossum ,

I used to run in a party crowd that had a LOT of burning man folks in it. There were a couple of them that had middle class incomes, maybe even leaning upper middle class. Those are usually the ones that had an art car or whatever that they sank some money into, instead of the crap that most upper middle class Americans blow their money on.

But the rest of them? They worked at restaurants, did massage therapy, teachers, etc. normal people with median or lower incomes that would forego other expenses to set aside a little a money for their annual get high in the desert trip.

Yes, there’s a bunch of elitists at the core of the event, but it’s not the majority.

FlyingSquid ,
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They still should have checked the weather report.

Fecundpossum ,

I didn’t say they were smart people. Just not all rich people.

Very_Bad_Janet ,

Even if they had checked the weather, would they have known 0.8 inches of rainfall translates into being stranded in the desert and possible death? I've never been to BM or spent time in a desert so this is news to me. Were people warning about this and attendees just ignored it?

FlyingSquid ,
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Yes. You need to stay out of the desert if there is any rainfall. That is basic knowledge you should know before going out there.

JungleJim ,

That’s a fair point, but at the same time the desert is well known for being the harshest of all environments on earth. It’s surprising so many people treat it like just a drive to the store.

Sarsaparilla ,
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Yeh I don't understand it either. I'm from Australia. Driving into a desert sounds like a pretty dangerous thing to do, no matter what the weather forecast is.

alignedchaos ,

Nah they know rain turns everything into quicksand. But it doesn’t create a situation more lethal than daily life there.

alignedchaos ,

And done what exactly??

It rains there sometimes. Forecasts change wildly day to day regardless. But it’s a desert and the water typically evaporates so quickly that an hour later there’s no evidence it rained.

Not to mention, it’s unlikely the person died from being trapped in the rain. I’m not sure why the article mentions both things except to give news about the event conditions I guess.

FlyingSquid ,
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And not gone into the desert in the first place. This is basic knowledge when going into a desert.

alignedchaos ,

Have you ever gone outside?

pandarang ,
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Kbobabob ,

TLDR: The trend of wealthy people is going up while the less wealthy trends down.

underisk ,
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The other takeaway is that more than half the attendees make more than 100k a year so not exactly a minority.

Coreidan ,

100k salary is a decent amount of money but it’s far as fuck from being “rich”.

underisk ,
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If 100k isn’t rich to you then you have lived an exceptionally blessed life. Also “more than” doesn’t mean all of them are making exactly 100k

blargerer ,

How rich you are on 100k really depends on where you live.

underisk ,
@underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

Tell that to people making less than 30k and describe the look they give you

bassomitron ,

100k in a place like NYC is literally living like someone making 30-45k in some rural town.

underisk ,
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What about the people in NYC making 30k then?

CaptainAniki ,

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  • underisk ,
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    The average salary in NYC is 36k

    huginn ,

    www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/--in-New-York

    Average is 50k

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">Top Earners	$79,250	$38
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">75th Percentile	$63,693	$31
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Average	        $50,800	$24
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">25th Percentile	$37,907	$18
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    underisk ,
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    How long did you shop around for statistics that didn’t just cite US census data?

    datacommons.org/place/geoId/3651000/?utm_medium=e…

    huginn ,
    1. Top result in Google
    2. That’s individual income not household

    Household income is the stat that matters.

    If you’re gonna be a dick, be right.

    huginn , (edited )

    For the most part: they’re doing better than you’d expect (ie homeless) given that they’ll generally be living somewhere rent controlled.

    They’re still in abject poverty by comparison. It’s like somebody living in a trailer park on 5k a year.

    But no matter how you shake it out and keep whataboutisming people the fact is that 100k a year is the new 50k in a lot of US cities where average rents are well above 2.5k/mo.

    The national median rent is 24k/yr.

    In 2016 that was 11k/yr

    100k doesn’t mean what you think it does anymore. In nyc 100k means you can maybe live alone in a 1br (2.7k/mo) without a car, but not downtown (4.1k/mo). You’ll be commuting 45ish minutes and be able to have a rainy day fund. You’ll pocket about 60k/yr after taxes, after rent you’ll have 24k/yr to spend on food in the most expensive city in the USA. You’ll be able to shop at discount stores to make that money go a bit further. You’ll go to dive bars to try and get $5 drinks instead of $15. You’ll make your own coffee. You’ll do your laundry at a laundromat because it’s too pricey to rent a place with a washing machine.

    It’s a nice life. If that sounds like rich to you then the billionaires have brainwashed you. It’s a middle class lifestyle.

    FabledAepitaph ,

    The brainwashing is real. So many people are so poor that they don’t believe you can be poor unless you’re absolutely destitute and on the edge of homelessness each month. This 100k/year lifestyle should be afforded by minimum wage, tbh.

    underisk ,
    @underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

    You guys keep bringing up cost of living like it’s some cool trick that lets you claim poverty while making nearly three times the local average salary.

    If Bill Gates spent most of his fortune to live like a college freshman in a space station would you be calling him middle class? It would cost him several times an average Americans yearly salary just to eat puréed meats and shit in a closet, so clearly he couldn’t be considered rich anymore.

    huginn ,

    claim poverty

    Who the fuck claimed poverty. I claimed it’s a middle class lifestyle.

    It’s not rich.

    If Bill Gates

    More whattaboutism and strawmen

    underisk ,
    @underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

    Yeah man any attempt to illustrate a point with hyperbole and metaphor is clearly just whattaboutism. Do you think middle class people aren’t seen as rich to people who are below middle class?

    roboticide ,

    “Poverty” means not having enough money to meet basic needs. “Cost of living” is defined as the minimum money needed to meet basic needs. It’s not just relevant to the discussion, it is the discussion.

    Someone living in Idaho can own a house on $70k. Someone living in NYC is homeless on $70k.

    If the local average is four times lower than the cost of living in a local area, the people making three times the local average are still feeling the effects of poverty. It’s not a competition to see who is “more poor,” it’s a fight for a living wage regardless of where you live.

    It’s not a complicated concept.

    Very_Bad_Janet ,

    You guys keep bringing up cost of living like it’s some cool trick that lets you claim poverty while making nearly three times the local average salary.

    No one in the comments above yours has said that $100k/yr is poverty. They are making the claim that someone making $100k/yr is not rich. There is a difference between poor and rich.

    To me being rich is being able to afford practically anything. An annual salary of $100k does not buy that. In the US, a $100k salary affords you a middle class or upper middle class lifestyle. In San Francisco, a $100k salary qualifies you for subsidized housing. Location and COL matters. If it didn't, people wouldn't deliberately move to lower cost of living places where they can afford more and better things.

    Kachilde ,

    Then just move to the suburbs where your 100k is worth more… and where the 100k jobs don’t exist… or the commute to the 100k jobs is over an hour each way… dummy

    ZodiacSF1969 ,

    I suddenly have the urge to tell you how much I make just to piss you off.

    njm1314 ,

    As one of those people you are presuming to speak for, no, I wouldn’t consider 100k rich. I find that to be an absurd statement.

    Mog_fanatic ,

    True for one person but this is household income. A married couple both making $50k would fall into this. While that is definitely not poor by any means. I think it is fair to say that it would be a bit of a stretch to call a person in the us today making $50k “rich.”

    socsa ,

    Bro, median household income in the US is almost $80k. It’s not 1998 anymore.

    underisk ,
    @underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s 70k and median means that half of households make less than that, not that its the most common salary.

    Angry_Maple ,
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    It might be a perspective thing, and how you both define “rich”.

    If someone gets by every week on ramen, a salary of $100k/year would seem like a crap ton of money. Doubly so if most of their community is also living off of ramen. One year on that salary alone would be life changing for this person.

    If someone lives in a pricy area and maybe has a few kids, a salary of $100k wouldn’t seem like nearly as much. Doubly so if most of their community makes that much. One year on that salary is just another year for this person.

    For some people, “rich” is not having to worry about starving and knowing that they have a roof over their head. It’s about finally being able to buy non-necessities, and it’s about being able to have things just for enjoyment. Some people are very month to month in terms of costs and bills.

    To others, “rich” is being able to buy expensive boats and cars. It’s about having excess wealth and never having to worry about any monetary problems. These people might think of millionaires and billionaires when they hear the word “rich”.

    Of course some people would consider $100k/year rich. I’m certain that MANY people would take that salary boost in a heartbeat.

    I’m not saying that $100k would set you up anywhere near as much as $1m would, but it’s a hell of a lot more money than many people can make.

    In 10 years, that salary is $1,000,000. For someone making $50k/year, it would take 20 years for them to make that much. For someone making $25k/year, it would take 40 years for them to earn that much. I would feel disingenuous telling someone who makes $25k/year that making $100k wouldn’t be becoming “rich” to them.

    Maybe that’s their monetary sweet spot, and they rely on other things to finish fulfilling their personal definition of “rich”. Family, friends, hobbies, etc.

    Screeslope ,

    People tend to acquire wealth over time? There is a solid correlation between wealth and age, so this shouldn’t be surprising in the least. And especially those who had time/energy to spare to attend festivals earlier are especially predisposed for acquiring now wealth down the line. Assuming that they return over the years, all of this is pretty much to be expected.

    Youthless ,

    —In 2013, the median age of burners was 32, and in 2022, it was 37.

    My take away was that it seems like it is the same people going every year: they are getting older and richer, because that is what happens over time.

    treefrog ,

    Most people at Burning Man aren’t rich. I hung out with a bunch of people who go regularly last night and I imagine less than half even own their own property.

    So yeah, you sound pretty callous tbh

    Coreidan ,

    That’s because the people saying this shit think a 100k salary makes you rich.

    These people are so broke that any amount of money to them is “rich”.

    DessertStorms ,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    These people are so broke that any amount of money to them is “rich”.

    right, but it's the reply you're talking about was the callous one... smfh (/s to be clear - you are the callous one, a classist ass literally making fun of people who are struggling to survive, like wtf)

    treefrog ,

    The cost of living here isn’t very high. The people I mentioned in my comment as not owning property probably make less than 50k.

    A lot of them camp together to split set up costs, gas, etc. So, they make it work, and I know a lot of them make sacrifices to make it work (living in a shitty apartment the other 51 weeks a year so they can afford the lifestyle for example).

    It’s not for me, personally. A fun crowd. Like carnies on LSD. But chronic pain and a history of interpersonal trauma make the desert sound like a really horrible time. Plus I’m poor poor (like on disability poor).

    I do enjoy the regionals though when I feel up for them.

    4am ,

    I hate to sound callous

    No, you fucking revel in it. Why the fuck else would you feel the need to post this?

    First you replace them with your straw man (“rich tech bros”) and then burn it down (“tech bros just deserve what they get”)

    Well, stay in your basement you smug piece of shit. Mommy will have tendies ready soon.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Blocked.

    BlinkerFluid ,
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    Maybe in ten years you can rename it to “Monsoon Man” and theme it around rain.

    It’s not a total loss.

    Screeslope ,

    Art floats. I see potential.

    muse ,
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    Lol, lmao even.

    Not OP but I also laughed at the ocean sub crushing like a beer can against the forehead of god and I am CACKLING at this.

    elevenfingerfrk ,

    Same here. No love lost for those parasites.

    Mdotaut801 ,

    Dude shut up. Plenty of non rich people go too. In fact, the chill guy I procure cartridges from is there now and I’m actually concerned. He’s just a normal dude. I mean…he LOVES weed but besides that lol…

    rifugee ,

    With that attitude, the only difference between you and the type of rich person you seem to despise, is wealth.

    ZzyzxRoad ,

    Apparently the weather stations in the SoCal desert didn’t see it coming at all. Not sure how that’s possible, but that’s what they said Friday. Tons of flooding in Palm Springs and Vegas too.

    callouscomic , in College students are still struggling with basic math. Professors blame the pandemic

    I struggled with certain math concepts that I should have learned in high school because my school district had low expectations and failed to prepare me for college math. I also was unprepared for grad school math because undergrad failed to prepare me cause it was so dumbed down. This has been a fundamental issue for a long time. All of this was over a decade ago.

    time_lord ,

    They’re called weedout classes, and they’re designed to be hard.

    Colour_me_triggered , in Brigham Young University Adds Explicit Ban on 'Same-Sex Romantic Behavior' to Honor Code

    What about if there’s no romance involved, and you’re just aggressively banging to release the stress of studying.

    Staccato ,

    “Sir you don’t understand. We were being completely chaste while fucking the shit out of each other. We were just trying to prepare for that orgo exam.”

    secret301 , in Reddit users are reporting Christian websites for violating Virginia's new porn identification law, citing vulgar passages in the Bible

    Reddit still has users?

    FoxBJK , (edited )
    @FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

    Unfortunately not only is Reddit still chugging along, Lemmy is slowly losing users.

    Growing new communities is very hard and takes a long time.

    EDIT - Adding my source

    MagicShel , (edited )

    It sucks to get to the end of social media. On Reddit I could always find plenty of posts with hundreds of comments and many were worth reading or replying to. Lemmy absolutely has good content and good comments, but you can get to the end where there’s no more. It probably doesn’t help that I’ve been much quicker to block people over the cut of their jib. I don’t come here to argue or hate people more than I already do, so I spend a lot less time and words embroiled in pointless conflict.

    But I still haven’t been back to Reddit and won’t. When I get to the end of content I find myself going to TikTok or Instagram - two things that I’ve never liked but at least it’s a stress free way to kill time, just louder.

    FReddit ,

    I feel the same way. On Reddit, they used to joke that the best material was in the comments.

    I’ve been using Sync and Thunder . There are lots of posts but often no comments at all.

    Sometimes it feels like a big cave of silence.

    MojoMcJojo ,

    Lurker’s lurker’s everywhere, not a post a read.

    PeleSpirit ,

    Or the comments are empty sounding like bots. It was getting like that months before the API issues.

    FReddit ,

    I’m kind of confused about bots. I mean some self identity. But others…

    It’s kind of creepy

    PeleSpirit ,

    They’re everywhere over reddit. They’re a bit here too, but not so bad it’s even an issue. Most of the bots here are to signal to someone to come harass or they upvote certain posts, so more benign.

    FReddit ,

    It will be interesting to see what this place looks like in a year

    Be well.

    UnculturedSwine ,

    It actually has been motivating me to comment a lot more than I did on Reddit. I feel like I actually have something to contribute. On Reddit, I would lurk more because my thoughts usually have already been expressed by someone else.

    FReddit ,

    I kind of lurked a lot on Reddit, largely because I was afraid of getting attacked.

    Lemmy seems nicer at this point, but God knows what we are in for.

    ZeroCool ,

    Lemmy absolutely has good content and good comments, but you can get to the end where there’s no more.

    That’s what Reddit was like 12 years ago when I joined. Frankly, I’ll take the higher quality community here on Lemmy over the endless scrolling potential and lowest common denominator discussions on modern Reddit.

    CosmicCleric ,
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    It probably doesn’t help that I’ve been much quicker to block people over the cut of their jib.

    Something you should consider is that you’re in danger of making your own little personal echo chamber.

    Also, +1 for using the term “the cut of their jib”.

    MagicShel ,

    That’s definitely possible, but mostly I’ve been blocking over unnecessarily hostile responses either to me or to someone else, not ideology, so hopefully I won’t get too far up my own ass.

    mrnotoriousman ,

    Yeah after 12 years on reddit, I feel this. But on the other hand, I've found myself enjoying the extra time I would have been scrolling on the phone and reading a lot more books

    RobertOwnageJunior ,

    It’s not healthy to look at social Media that much, anyway.

    PeleSpirit ,

    Is Lemmy losing users or are people finding the one stable instance they like. I have 5 different accounts and I’m only on world for the most part now. It looks like 2 of them are lost users because I never sign in.

    DogMuffins ,

    That’s possible. Comment count & Post count are both trending up - so that’s nice.

    secret301 ,

    Welp it’s what happens when people love being controlled

    Arthur_Leywin , in Six officers known as the ‘Goon Squad’ plead guilty to torturing two Black men, using a sex toy on them and shooting one of them

    What the fuck did I just read…

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    White supremacist gang shit.

    Moobythegoldensock ,

    If I saw it in a movie I wouldn’t be able to suspend my disbelief.

    FlyingSquid , in Brigham Young University Adds Explicit Ban on 'Same-Sex Romantic Behavior' to Honor Code
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Fucking Mormons, man. I swear…

    StorminNorman ,

    No, they’re not fucking. Cos of the code.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    They’re sort of fucking.

    Mamertine ,

    They just need James Marsden to jump on the bed next to them.

    ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Mdotaut801 ,

    They’re the worst. Unfortunately, I live in Utah and deal with them daily. They’re some of the fakest, dumbest, two faced idiots on the planet. I’ve witnessed so many Mormon families disown their own children over gender identity and homosexuality. Heartbreaking and disgusting.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    To be fair every single former-Mormon I have ever meet was a really cool person who acted like nothing could faze them since they had already seen hell.

    One guy I used to get smashed with, from a Mormon family of 7, he could drink me under the table and still be cracking wise.

    Mdotaut801 ,

    To be fair, you probably witnessed Mormons outside of their Mecca of Utah. It’s insane here in utah. My lovely girlfriend used to be mormon, got married in the temple and everything. The stories she tells me makes me want to vomit. She was raped by one of the men in her “ward” and the first thing the bishop asked was “what were you wearing?” It got even worse but the story ends with the bishop covering up for this young man and nothing ever happening. She was raped and nothing happened. Fuck the Mormon cult.

    Matriks404 , in Texas drunk drivers will now have to pay child support if they kill a parent, guardian

    I mean sure, but they still should go for a long time to jail.

    LufyCZ ,

    I don’t know, being in jail means they won’t be able to pay for the child support.

    I’d say the better option is a driving ban, with a hars punishment if broken. Making them live on the verge of poverty is IMO better as a punishment and it’s better for the child / society in general

    Shou ,

    Agreed. A drunk driver proved that he/she is a danger who takes no responsibility. Permanent revoked driver’s licence is the solution here.

    Along with heavy child support should they kill someone’s parents/guardian.

    Mamertine ,

    revoked driver’s licence is the solution here.

    A lot of people with revoked/cancelled/suspended licenses still drive. We don’t have a good mechanism to actually keep someone from driving.

    The cops used to run plates and take action when the registered owner had one if those statuses and the driver had a vague appearance to the owner. In most places they’re not allowed to do that anymore.

    urist ,
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    I think, perhaps, this isn’t a problem the police can solve in America.

    The justice system (IMHO. my opinion is not worth much) should focus on rehabilitation and restitution to the victim. It’s probably impossible to live in parts of Texas without a license, due to lack of alternative transportation.

    I don’t feel bad for people who have DUI/DWIs, but I do think you should be able to recover from a mistake like that. Driving without a license can feel like a necessity, because having a car in America can feel like a necessity. Having no (or very few) opportunities makes mistakes unrecoverable.

    I’m not saying these people deserve to be able to drive, it’s just, revoking their license doesn’t do anything and it’s obvious why.

    Mamertine ,

    I used to watch a YouTube motovlogger. He advocated after someone got a DUI they can only get a motorcycle license. His logic was they’d only kill themselves. I could get behind that.

    dragonflyteaparty ,

    That’s not necessarily true. Pedestrians are definitely a thing. And people would still drive illegally without a license to have passengers, children with them, groceries, larger items, ect. On top of that, being a motorcyclist is more dangerous and one could argue that it’s a cruel and unusual punishment to increase the danger selectively for certain people.

    Sludgeyy ,

    There’s nothing more scary than a person with nothing to lose

    So, person that just screwed up their life. Who wants to hire a felon? How is a felon supposed to get to work in Texas without transportation? You’re going to now take a large chunk out of their paycheck?

    People are struggling in Texas that aren’t a felon, can drive a car, and get to keep all their paycheck.

    How is a person realistically supposed to overcome basically losing everything?

    Driving without a license is this person’s last concern, and probably some alcohol will make them feel better…

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