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snowe , in I have bad news for you...
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If that’s the first thing you see then maybe you have a problem. It took me a full 20 seconds to see it.

hswolf ,
@hswolf@lemmy.world avatar

I saw both in like 5 seconds, the letters aren’t that far apart that you’d need to have a problem to see the word

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Pattern recognition bad

seth ,

Maybe he’s an editor for a newspaper and writes opinion pieces. Definitely a problem, as they seem to be getting replaced by electronic format news!

diffcalculus ,

insert Jack Sparrow meme

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

it’s as easy to read pedo as it is to read dope so it’s not that far-fetched

OutlierBlue ,

I stared at it for 30 seconds and finally had to come to the comments to find out what was wrong.

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

sure if you read the title first you will see “dope”, but without context there’s about a 50% chance to see “pedo” first

Omega_Haxors ,

Freudian slip on the part of the OP.

Asnabel , in Deep

Remember guys and gals, it’s not body shaming when men are on the receiving end!

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Are you implying the term Big Dick Energy is body shaming men?

irmoz , (edited )

It does literally refer to penis size. Hiding it behind the word “energy” is just obfuscation. It reminds me of racist people defending the N word by saying, “there’s black people, then there’s Ns. Black people are fine, Ns aren’t.”

You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently. You just wanna say “small dick” and get away with it, that’s all.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Lmao wat?

irmoz ,

Try raising your speech level above 0 before responding.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Bruh you just compared using the term BDE to the N word.

irmoz ,

I compared one instance of belittling offence to another instance of it. Keep up.

I even added explicit reasoning afterwards in case you got distracted, but you still couldn’t control yourself.

Maybe try responding to my point itself, instead of the analogy that came with it?

You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Lmao you have such debate lord energy, the meme i shared literally says your pp size doesn’t matter. The fact that you equated BDE with using the N word shows how out of touch with reality you are.

irmoz , (edited )

Yeah, you say dick size doesn’t actually matter, but you’re still talking about dick size. The word “energy” is just an excuse, so you can say “small dick” without being called out.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

I never said small dick till YOU did lmfao

irmoz ,

Sure buddy. “Big dick energy” exists in a vacuum and isn’t the counterpart to “small dick energy”.

How gullible do you think I am?

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

MFer did you just compare “small dick energy” to the n word 💀

irmoz ,

Did you just describe what I did in a reductive way, without even attempting to explain your point? Why should I listen to you?

Try attacking the idea itself: “You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently.”

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

“That’s reductive”, said the N-word comparer 💀💀

irmoz ,

Attack the argument or accept that you’re wrong.

“Small dick energy” is just a way to say “small dick” without getting called out for it.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Begging people to debate you about how saying small dick energy is like dropping hard Rs is the most small dick energy thing I can think of, no thanks

irmoz ,

See, you still show no evidence you have any clue what I’m saying, so how can I take you seriously? I never said it is “like droping hard Rs”. Seriously, get up to speed or get lost.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Here’s an actual, completely serious input for you: If you want people to take you seriously and actually engage, don’t start by comparing them to outspoken racists. People will prefer to roast you

irmoz ,

I’m not. I didn’t realise people would be so confused by analogies.

I compared the rhetoric. That’s the point of such devices. You don’t have to be a racist to use similar logic to them.

This isn’t complicated whatsoever.

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

How deep are you willing to go before you admit you made a dumbass comparison?

Look, I can pretend I’m smart by invoking latin shit too: adversus solem ne loquitor

irmoz ,

Explain how the comparison is “dumbass”, or admit you’re just wrong.

Anyone can just make claims without justifying them. I claim trees speak German. I will elaborate no further!

pretend I’m smart by invoking latin shit too:

Um, you think that’s all I was doing there? Just saying random Latin?

You do realise this is just… you admitting you don’t know what reductio ad absurdum is?

And you’re acting like that proves anything other than that you’re ill-equipped to discuss rhetoric?

I’ll explain: reductio ad absurdum is a common rhetorical device whereby you take someone’s logic, and apply it to the most extreme example, to show how the logic fails. It literally means “reduction to the absurd”.

Here’s an example:

What you just did now? Saying “I can invoke random Latin shit”? That’s like you, in court, objecting to a lawyer using the term “mens rea”, and saying they’re just “invoking latin shit”, because you don’t realise it is in fact a common term in that context, and instead think they’re just showing off.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Psst, let me share a little secret. What I said wasn’t random it’s another phrase debatelords like yourself use to pretend they are very cool and logical, but I love how eager you were to flaunt your knowledge of something with a very obvious meaning. I thought it was poignant to someone trying to argue some of the most stupid shit I’ve ever heard, and you can say ad hominem to that.

irmoz ,

Have you stopped even trying to make a point?

What I said wasn’t random it’s another phrase debatelords like yourself use to pretend they are very cool and logical

What? “I can invoke latin shit too?” You were trying to wield that against me in a “look, this is how you look” kinda move? When I never did that or anything like that? Well, cool. I hope you had fun, but it was a waste of time.

I love how eager you were to flaunt your knowledge of something with a very obvious meaning

I’m not “flaunting” I’m explaining, because it appeared to be a roadblock for you. You didn’t respond to it, but simply point at it and the fact it was Latin. You gave every indication of being stumped. Should I instead have just mocked you and allowed the conversation to come to a standstill? I was trying to explain my point to you.

This isn’t a fucking fight. It’s a conversation. I’m trying to be even-handed and fair, here.

I thought it was poignant to someone trying to argue some of the most stupid shit I’ve ever heard, and you can say ad hominem to that.

I’m not sure you’re using “poignant” correctly, there. But nothing about this comment I’m responding to makes any sense whatsoever in context, so that’s just par for the course, it seems.

Also, why would I call that an ad hominem? Your guesses and estimations about me thus far have been completely off the mark, so what makes you think this one will hit?


All that said, are you ready to get back on topic?

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Not reading all that but I’m happy for you

irmoz ,

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

lolcatnip ,

Ooh, name calling! Based on a willful misinterpretation of what they said, too. A sure sign of a solid argument!

criitz ,

Yes. It equates body types with positive/negative traits. ie. “Big dick energy” implies “small dick = bad”

Touching_Grass ,

Can we shut the fuck up about being sensitive to everything. Just for a day. Sincerely guy with small dick. Its cold out. Always.

criitz ,

Sorry that adapting is uncomfortable but no

dream_weasel ,

Serious small dick energy bro.

flicker ,

The thing about this is, you're saying you have a small dick, but this is big dick energy for real.

Maybe someone needs to come up with a better name for it because it's a very real phenomenon and most of us know exactly what it's referring to.

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe someone needs to come up with a better name

Confidence ? E.g: “he is very confident !” = “he has big dick energy !”

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Maybe big cockfidence?

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Grand Phallus Je ne sais quoi

irmoz ,

Why must dicks be involved?

problematicPanther ,
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

everything is better with dicks.

lostme ,

Especially girls. My gf has a bigger dick than me and I couldn’t be happier, no homo

Num10ck ,

swagger

cgarret3 ,

The term is secure or self-secure.

As in: “it didn’t bother him because he is secure in himself”

coconutking ,

Yes; and more specifically, it’s a quiet confidence.

killeronthecorner ,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

tight snatch energy

lemann ,

Nooooo 😭😂😂

Vampiric_Luma ,
@Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca avatar

No :(

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

I could see how the phrase implies that, however this meme subverts that by saying that dick size doesn’t matter as much as your energy does. And the meme literally says that small dick energy is bad, not having a small pp.

criitz ,

Small dick energy is bad but not small dicks? How does that make any sense. Think about it.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Bruh the only time I’ve ever used the term BDE is to imply that the size of your pp doesn’t matter with this meme. Im sorry its upset you, but i dont really care. Trans men can have BDE without even having a dick. YOU are the one implying that small dicks are bad, not me.

superduperenigma ,

Honestly your whole argument is very reminiscent of people in the early 2000s using the word “gay” synonymously with “bad” and insisting it’s not only inoffensive to gay people but that anyone who thinks otherwise is the real homophobe.

The whole “big/small dick energy” things is inherently rooted in body shaming for reasons that have already been pointed out. It doesn’t matter that you didn’t mean it in that way or that you’re trying to flip the script by saying your energy doesn’t necessarily reflect or corporate to your penis size.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Calling someone gay in the 2000’s was not synonymous with calling somone bad, it was synonymous with calling somone homosexual. Gay originally meant lighthearted or carefree. I got called Gay all the time in the 2000’s when I was in high school, the kids never implied it was bad just that I was a homosexual, to which my defense was that I was a Lesbian trapped in a Man’s body so I wasnt gay cause I was attracted to women. The church I went to sure as shit implied that being gay was a sin, but calling somone gay was NOT synonymous with calling them bad. It was used for calling peers out for acting outside of accepted social norms, such as homosexual behavior largely was at the time and still is in some places.

qarbone ,

Were you not a (pre-)teen in the 2000s? Because the phrase, “nah, that’s gay” was bandied about quite a lot by teenage boys and men with the mentality of teenage boys quite a lot.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

I graduated High School in the 2000s. And yeah I heard, “nah, thats gay” ALOT but its was almost always in reference to things boys didnt want to do cause they thought it would make them look gay if they did it. ie.

Kid A: “Hey you wanna join Marching Band.” Kid B: “Nah that’s gay.”

Kid A: “Do you want to go watch an off broadway productiong of RENT instead of playing Halo?” Kid B: “Nah That’s gay”

lightnsfw ,

Saying small dick energy is just a different way of calling someone out for acting insecure it has nothing to do with the size of their dick.

GreyEyedGhost ,

Insecure like someone with a…?

lightnsfw ,

Insecurity problem

crystal ,

doesn’t matter as much

JohnDClay ,

I think it’s analogous to referring to balls the size of wrecking balls or something. I don’t know of anyone who thinks bigger physical balls are superior to smaller balls, but the phrase is still common to denote courage. I think big dick energy is not as decoupled from people’s biology as big balls, but it’s still mostly decoupled in common usage.

Lumidaub ,

“This person conducts themselves with a confidence that usually comes with physical traits typically considered desirable.”

GreenMario ,

Fuck off with this shit we’re allowed to roast anybody and everyone for any reason. This is what you call “Lib Shit” for being offended over bullshit.

Omega_Haxors ,

That’s why I prefer ‘big ballsack energy’ It’s something every male can achieve with enough waiting or the right diet.

problematicPanther ,
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

spoken like one with little dick energy.

guyrocket , in Doomba
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Boomba

RiQuY ,

Bomba.

A_Brave_Wanderer ,

Booba?

Dackel ,

Explosion

meowMix2525 ,

-ba

Custoslibera , in Please, not again.

Look on the positive side, if he comes back for a second term there’ll probably be death camps so you’ll be killed and won’t have to remember when he becomes president for life.

Daft_ish OP ,

Put me in a Trump run death camp. Me and all my new pals will be living better than most Americans in the new order within a week.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Fascism is great for the supporters, at first. They get to steal tooth gold.

ScrotusMaximus ,

Under his orange eye, brother.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

On one hand, I wonder what would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America. On the other hand, I read comments like yours and realize a lot of people are this dumb.

Daft_ish OP ,

Oh? What did I say that is so dumb?

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

If you have to ask…

Daft_ish OP ,

If you can’t say…

Patches , (edited )

What would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America

The same exact things that made them disillusioned 6 years ago? Their life is getting worse at an accelerated pace and have been for many decades now. The “System” does not work for them and they are tired of pretending it does.

Despite ‘Bidenomics’ - we, the working class, are poorer now than we have ever been. Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.

They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust. Trump represents to them what Bernie represented to Democrats - actual change.

But it doesn’t really matter what I, or anyone else, says. You’ve already decided what you think about all of these people.

news.berkeley.edu/…/despite-drift-toward-authorit…

Daft_ish OP ,

Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.

They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust.

This is fallacy. It may work to attract a certain type a voter but in practice Trump bends over backwards to appease the GOP. He lines his cabinet and campaign with GOP old guard and is set out to accomplish GOP policy goals. Not once in my interactions with any Trump supporters have they hinted at doing anything that wouldn’t be aligned with typical conservative ideology. Trump is the GOPs creation. Nothing more. Nothing less.

squiblet , in I won’t download your stupid app
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

Same. Their reasoning and the warning in general make no sense. Why would it be safer to view “unreviewed content” (wetf that means) in their app vs a browser?

idunnololz ,
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Because the app is so packed with ads, you won’t be viewing any content anyways.

EmergMemeHologram ,

I despise whoever made new Reddit. You can only view comment chains two levels deep in new Reddit, then replies at one level, which means you need to constantly keep loading a new page and ads to see each reply in a thread.

Who the hell thought of that? It’s a horrible UX.

TheFriar ,

Lol that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. But I can tell you who thought of it, easily. The people optimizing the ad revenue. UX isn’t their focus, but boosting profits is.

gnutrino ,

Is it going to boost profits though? This sort of thing is always presented as an easy way to boost ad revenue but when you’re selling ads at the volume reddit is I would have thought click-through rate would be king and it’s going to decimate that.

TheFriar ,

I’m sure if there’s one thing they’ve really gotten the hang of, it’s optimizing advertising profits. They explicitly said they’re killing third party apps because they want to sell user data. (In so many words). I can’t imagine they hadn’t thought of what makes them money. I imagine, actually, it’s what 95% OF their focus has gone toward recently.

kubica ,
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I remember the redesign feedback subreddit. Any small suggestion was attacked by dozens of bootlickers. And here we are now.

carl_dungeon , in Common Marx W

You can always follow up when someone says “states rights” with “to do what?”… because the answer was “have slaves”.

captainlezbian ,

Or just call it what it is. “States rights was a euphemism for slavery then, and the second they could violate it with the fugitive slave act they did, it was a euphemism for segregation under Goldwater and make no mistake he’d ban it in a heartbeat. It has never been a legitimate argument, just the take of someone afraid to say a position that would cost them any chance of cooperation”

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug ,

Another interesting note I bring into the states rights argument is that the south wanted to force the north to send back escaped people and were actually sending people into the north to kidnap black people, many of whom were never born slaves.

So yeah the north wanted the right to gives rights to the people in it, and the south thought that didn’t apply to black people.

TranscendentalEmpire ,

So yeah the north wanted the right to gives rights to the people in it, and the south thought that didn’t apply to black people.

I think that gives a bit too much credit to the vast majority of Union citizens. Yes there were some groups of Quakers who actually believed in freeing slaves and protecting their rights, but that was a minority opinion .

The majority of people in the union disagreed with slavery for economic and political reasons that were unattached to the morality of slavery. Even progressive politicians like Abe Lincoln who wanted to free slaves, also wanted them to be shipped to the Dominican Republic or Africa afterwards.

Madison420 ,

Abolitionist v radical abolitionist and emacipationist v radical emancipationist.

History is fun like that…

Zoboomafoo ,
@Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

And to radicals, there is no greater foe

ricecake ,

The war did polarize people into holding stronger opinions than they did before though.
Even if they started as unionists more than anything else, being opposed to the South turned into also opposing what they stood for. As evidenced by a lot of the most popular northern camp songs, matches and letters, it didn’t take long for “hang Jeff davis, the traitorous scoundrel” to turn into “hang Jeff Davis, the traitorous, slaving scoundrel. Let’s shoot rebels in the name of freedom!”.

Wanting to shoot confederates is a weird reason to become pro emancipation, but I’ll take it.

slurpeesoforion ,

And “limited government”. Limited to do what?

Madison420 ,

Sorta, the valid but shitty argument is that it was an interstate trade dispute the South was mad at the federal government about.

KepBen ,

What commodity was the federal government interfering with that got them so angry?

shalafi , (edited )

Agrarian South vs. Industrialized North made for an unfair trade balance. You can hardly trade a bale of cotton for a steam engine, that kinda idea I believe. Been 30+ since college American History, forgot the exact gripes.

We could probably find these disputes in the various Letters of Secession. They almost all start with slavery, but there were other complaints.

EDIT: I was wrong. The letters are almost 100% “bla, bla, bla, we’re being treated unfairly and we’re leaving.” Surprisingly little mention of slavery, but get a load of Mississippi’s letter! LOL my god, y’all just gonna have to read that one yourself. (I had always assumed that letter was typical and I was wrong.)

EDIT: Oh fuck me, I’m wrong again. The linked are merely the official ordinances, not Letters of Succession. Hence why they’re all dry legalese. But I did arouse your curiosity about Mississippi, so here go their letter.

Madison420 ,

Slaves, duh.

It’s not my argument people, it’s an explanation of the new version of states rights the right spews in bad faith.

Veraxus ,
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That’s an easy one.

It means “disassemble all checks and balances, strip the people of all power and authority, and concentrate the power and authority into the hands of a chosen party-aligned dictator or oligarchy.”

Small government doesn’t get any smaller than a totalitarian dictatorship.

KirbySSM , in Will it happen ?
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Logo on the top right has never been used as a logo for the Firefox Browser. It’s used for the Firefox brand of products

cypherpunks ,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s used for the Firefox brand of products

where?

KirbySSM ,
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AccidentalLemming ,

Two of these have since been discontinued, one is a Have I Been Pwned reskin. Poor Mozilla, struggling to find alternative revenue sources to cut its Google dependence.

rockSlayer ,

Honestly they should take notes from the Wikimedia Foundation. While they are funded by donations, Wikimedia created a trust that will ensure, without hyperbole, that they never run out of cash

TheLeechiestLeech ,

Idk they could also pay the CEO less money too.

RickyRigatoni ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

What kind of freedom hating pinko talk is that?

TheLeechiestLeech , (edited )

I don’t know what she does day to day, but Firefox usage is going down the toilet and the rest of Mozilla seems mismanaged. Maybe decreasing her salary and hiring some more engineers might help. Right now Google seems to be keeping Mozilla alive to prove that they supposedly aren’t a monopoly. Now she did join after the user trend was already plummeting, but idk $3+ mil is a lot of money to not turn the ship around.

It would just be nice to have an actual chromium competitor.

TrickDacy ,

3 million is a pretty low salary for a CEO of any large company. I get so tired of people shitting on Firefox for this. Can we please give this a rest?

TheLeechiestLeech ,

Wikimedia has a similar head count as far as I know, and the CEO is paid significantly less, which is what we were talking about. Mozilla is in a really bad position right now, so that’s why people bring this up.

garbagebagel ,

3 million is a pretty high salary for anyone. Lower all their salaries. Eat the rich.

AccidentalLemming ,

I assume that developing and maintaining a browser with its own HTML/JS/CSS engine is orders of magnitude more expensive than running Wikipedia’s servers though. There’s a reason why all other browser companies (except Apple) are all building on top of Chrome.

superduperenigma ,

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_logo

Scroll down to the “Transition to overarching identity and simplicity (2018–present)” section under history.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

On their website. Site header has no fox, browser has a fox.

www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/

Ravi , in True next-gen graphics

Haven’t played Starfield yet, but comparing a small handrcafted world to a huge procedural generated world is like comparing a single screenshot from a movie to a single realistic painting. It doesn’t mean that Starfield is good, just that it’s not a fair comparison.

schmidtster ,

On the other hand, using procedural generation should free up a bunch of dev time that you could than be using to make sure the models that the generation uses are quality.

Now comparing individual features, elex looks better, while starfield should be better looking. Since they used procedural generation and should have used that time saved crafting hand crafted worlds making their base models better.

It’s more than an apt comparison, if you look at what they want you to compare.

gigachad ,

On the other hand, using procedural generation should free up a bunch of dev time that you could than be using to make sure the models that the generation uses are quality.

FTFY

schmidtster ,

Hence the “should”, most places just use it as cost cutting and don’t polish other parts unfortunately.

guylacaptivite ,
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Not all of Starfield is randomly generated. This specific example is from one of the main big cities that are definitely hand built. The random stuff is mostly deserts and outposts like what players can build. So even according to your standards, this is a correct and legitimate comparison.

RealFknNito ,
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This is a city. The one you go to frequently for the main questline. It’s a whole other level of fucked if you’re procedurally generating the core locations in your game without ‘handcrafting’ over it. Looking like this is inexcusable and it still crippling my computer is an insult.

lichtmetzger OP ,

There’s no excuse for not improving the water system since they released Skyrim. With that budget, it should’ve been doable. I mean, look at that. It looks like sewage.

pfannkuchen_gesicht ,

maybe it’s supposed to be sewage

swag_money ,

Minecraft with shaders running on my mediocre PC looks 11x better than on starfield. i don’t care though since i don’t spend time around much water. friggin love the game so far

ReversalHatchery ,

I wouldn’t think that the city on the planet where the screenshot was made (and I don’t remember the name) was procedurally generated

HikingVet , in reverse Indy

It be better if it was the British museum.

produnis OP ,
@produnis@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Indy didnt steal from museums

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

I think you’re missing their point.

Indy was always “it belongs in a museum” when its an intricate part of some foreign nations history. That museum always seemed to be British or US.

The point being they’re just stealing their history back. A reverse Indy.

“It belongs to the culture it came from. Allow them to choose what to do with it. Perhaps they even have their own museums.”

HikingVet ,

Very well put.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

The Vatican is a museum whether you like it or not

db2 ,

The point is to steal things that don’t already belong to them.

HikingVet ,

Nah, the ‘reverse’ of putting it in a museum is repatriation.

ViscloReader , in Does it not pierce thine very heart?

Probably more like 99,999…%

FUCKRedditMods ,

Well how far back are we talking? 200,000 years or just since writing was invented. Technically those cave paintings from tens of thousands of years ago could be telling historic events of some kind but if we even just say “only since 5000BCE” and only consider events of significant historic consequence shaping any given region (as opposed to neighbors starting a blood fued by shitting in each others yurts), then it’s STILL probably like 90% lost which is just wild.

trailing9 ,

Is it history and not ancient times if it is not recorded?

I would like to add:

Imagine all of the recorded history that was destroyed.

InputZero ,

I had a thought about this on a toke and walk. Imagine all the artisans over the course of human existence. All the skills and tricks they learned to just exist and live. Like a hunter tieing the ends of their bow in a slightly different way so it would work better with what they had, or a cook who figured out a more interesting way to make pasta or something. All that is just lost to the sands of time. That’s okay, humanity is struggling along just fine. Still left me wondering, what do we not know?

the_third , in Don't be fooled Billy, it's not really a job, more of a parasitic relationship

I’ve calculated if it would pay off to build a house with four units on a piece of land that I already have. It would barely pay for itself after 30 years but let’s be honest, 30 years is when the first big renovations are in order. I’m not sure if the “landlords are rich leeches” - trope holds up outside expensive cities with inherited properties.

Knightfox ,

It really depends on the nature of the rental and your area. If instead of building a house you build 4 closely stacked duplexes and charged each one double what the mortgage would be you’d definitely make money, but you’d also be an extortionate leech. In my area someone built 4 nice duplexes on a double lot (probably around 1.5 acres) and is now renting them at $1800 each. The land was probably less than $55k and the cost of construction was likely less than $1 mil. At 5% interest on a 30 year loan their monthly payment would be $5,600, but they’re bringing in $14,400 per month.

$1800 for rent is an extortionate price in my area (it’s big city apartment rental prices, with a pool and gym), even after interest rates went up.

On the other hand, I knew a couple who were landlords for nearly 20 years. They rarely raised the rents and even in 2022 they were still charging <$1000 per month for a full house because that paid the costs and for them it was an investment, not a source of income.

They finally sold their rental homes and made about $70k over what they originally paid on each house. Doing the math that comes out to be a roughly 8.5% annual percentage return without counting the rent gained each month. That’s a fairly solid investment without being a sucky person.

buzz ,
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Best minds of Lemmy.

I’m just surprised you are not building these 4 duplexes - you did the math its super profitable

Restaldt ,

Needs a small loan of a million dollars

buzz ,
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Get a loan, get some other person to combine money. If this is so profitable u should have no issues

darq ,
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It literally is no problem if you already have assets to use as collateral. The problem is that most people don't.

Knightfox ,

This is the answer, literally this is what millionaires have been doing for ages. It’s just unique that the COVID era interest rates were so low that it made it so that 100-thousand-aires could do what millionaires had already been doing.

Knightfox ,

Well for a couple reasons.

  • I don’t have a million dollars
  • I couldn’t qualify for an investment loan worth a million dollars without making some really poor/speculative decisions
  • Being a full time landlord is super profitable and trouble free until it isn’t. If you get some troublesome tenants your sweet business decision can become a freaking nightmare.
  • This estimate doesn’t include taxes or insurance
  • I think these rental prices are outrageous and I’m surprised anyone agreed to them. Not sure who these people are, but someone took the deal. Maybe there was some sort of arrangement so that they didn’t pay the listed rental price (like x number of months free, waived deposit, etc).
  • I wouldn’t be surprised if the owner is overleveraged unless they were already independently wealthy or they got in before the interest rates went up.

For a while between 2020 and 2022, if you had your home paid for, you could take a mortgage out on that property and invest that money and make more money on the return on investment than the payment for the mortgage and the taxes owed on your profits. That’s how low the interest rates were for a while. I have a coworker who refinanced his house for 2% on a 30 year fixed rate, inflation is generally higher than his interest rate. Doing that sort of thing, taking a loan out on one house to invest with, is stupidly speculative but I wouldn’t be surprised if people did it.

Thranduil ,

My former landlord avoided increasing rent for as long as he could but eventually he was just in red and had to do it.

boonhet ,

Guidelines for buying rental properties say they should pay off in 10 years.

the_third ,

Yeah, well, here they don’t. Currently, building from new costs about 3200€/m^2^, provided you own the ground already.

Average rent for a newly built, low energy appartment with fibre to the home and covered parking including a wallbox (so, basically the optimum you could build with a high rent in mind) around here is about 9 to 10€/m^2^. So that’s 26 years before the building is paid off and that does not include interest for a loan or upkeep for the building. With 4 percent of interest which seems to be the lower end of the market right now I’d never break even.

boonhet ,

Buying here is cheaper (1600 per sq meter in the commie blocks part of the city) and rent is about the same. Outside of those blocks you’d usually get copper and no real insulation, with street parking. A brand new apartment in a nice place might net you 15-20 eur per square meter.

Of course, I live in the ass end of Europe where wages are half of what they are in the west so it makes sense our rents, food costs, etc are higher. The peasants shouldn’t have too much to their names.

Tenants also pay any loans associated with the apartment building repairs, or the repair fund collection, not by law but because apartments are in demand and tenants are not. The law actually says it’s the responsiblity of the owner, but there’s literally nothing saying that responsibility can’t be shifted.

Blackmist ,

I think the main money maker isn’t rent. It’s owning (or at least having a mortgage on) property that doubles in value every ten years.

The rent often just pays for the mortgage and upkeep. The main payday comes when they sell it all off to the next parasite.

the_third ,

Sounds like a dangerous game, it assumes that property always appreciates value faster than inflation progresses.

Fiivemacs ,

That’s risk

Blackmist ,

It would be a dangerous game if the politicians and their donors weren’t also playing it and rigging it in their favour.

michaelrose ,

Would you like to look up a graph of home prices over the last century?

Luvs2Spuj ,

That’s how it should work, but home hoarders want an income from rent and so the system doesn’t work.

Blackmist ,

I disagree. Property prices should not be spiralling out of all sanity at the rate it’s doing, especially in city areas.

That’s what’s causing people to buy them, because it earns more than stocks and shares.

Bricks and mortar should never have been viewed as an investment.

phoneymouse , (edited )

Whenever I do the math on buying a multi-family, I find you’d either not be breaking even or barely breaking even with the mortgage, insurance, and taxes by charging market rent. The current landlord is basically claiming future rents as his own when he sets the asking price at level that takes all of the current market rent price for himself.

If you buy the property and want to have enough to do repairs / renovations and cover unexpected risks like tenants that can’t pay and won’t leave, you HAVE to go up on rent, otherwise you will go broke and lose the property.

Maybe there was a golden age when being a landlord meant instant cash flow and money making opportunities, but I find most of the stuff on the market today are just people looking to cash out all future value in the property and assuming the next landlord will basically just jack up rent to cope with the high cost of that cash out.

Being a landlord is pretty risky. You could end up with a bad tenant that ruins your property or won’t pay and won’t leave. You also are responsible for costly repairs and renovations that can have long breakeven timelines. You have to cover that cost some how, and that is by charging rent. Who would assume that risk without a reward?

abraxas ,

Real Estate long-term ROI - 4% per year

NASDAQ long-term ROI - 11% per year

It’s about diversity, and the various tax advantages to owning the property/business/etc.

workerONE ,

Good luck getting 11% a year in the stock market. I think your stats include the pandemic and I don’t think we’ll see increases like that again, at least we can’t count on it.

abraxas ,

11% has been a financial planning standard since time immemorial (ok, well, since after the great depression). If a hedge fund or other investment isn’t hitting 11%, you should be in S&P or NDQ which flattens to 10% over time… or “only” 6-7% after adjusting for inflation.

The last 30 years are considered “below average”. The market only grew 9.9%/year on average. Which apparently that 0.1% is a big deal for investors.

Here’s a fairly good breakdown on SOFI. Obviously, we’ll never know what the future holds, but 10% over time is the “bad return” that rich people talk about.

tocopherol ,
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“Landlords are rich leeches” is still true because the vast majority of property in the US is not owned by hard working people who are investing their earnings owning a handful of properties at most, but by property companies and hedge funds.

Crozekiel ,

I’m not sure what you used to calculate it, but it definitely isn’t only “expensive cities with inherited properties”… I did the math on the last house I rented: lived there for 8 years. It was a duplex in a city in a very cheap cost of living state. Just my rent alone for those 8 years more than covered what the entire duplex was purchased for 3 years prior to me moving in. That means if both sides were occupied, which it was for all but 1 month in the 8 years I was there, it’s paid for in full in 4 years. Even if you “have to renovate” in 30 years, hell even 15 years, you have 10 years of pure profit even after considering insurance and property taxes and probably even maintenence costs…

Maybe your area doesn’t have high demand for rentals or you under-valued your rent price, but there wouldn’t be so many people doing it if it wasn’t profitable.

the_third ,

Germany, not the US here. The market isn’t a no rules free for all here.

there wouldn’t be so many people doing it if it wasn’t profitable.

That’s basically our problem here, too few new appartments are getting built because of this.

TORFdot0 ,

That’s how a mortgage works. But the point is that after those 30 years you have a million dollar asset. That you had your tenants pay for.

For a regular plebs like us that’s not a winning proposition because we can’t have our money tied up for 30 years but for people who don’t need their money liquid, it’s free real estate

Jmdatcs ,

It’s hard to get a good return on your investment in residential real estate without using leverage.

For instance: You don’t buy one place outright. You buy 5 with 20% down. You may not have positive cash flow, but at long as it isn’t negative not only do you get all the increase in value, you also get more equity every month as the tenants pay your mortgages.

If you bought it outright and over some period of time the tenants have paid your entire investment and the price of the property doubles, you doubled your money. If you buy 5 and over some period of time the tenants pay your mortgage and initial investment and the properties have doubled in value you have increased your initial investment 10X. And before the big expensive renovations come in, you can sell and buy something else if you’re not equipped to deal with that.

Also if you are just breaking even to get free property but you want to start getting passive income, after a few years you can refi to a longer term and lower your mortgage payments to get in the black every month.

This isn’t advice, fuck anybody buying up single family homes to rent, just showing one way they can generate both wealth and passive income for nothing. Literally nothing if they’re using a property management company.

Fuck anybody buying up single family homes to rent. I know I already said that, but it bears repeating.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Fuck anybody buying up single family homes to rent.

It was worth one more.

Lianodel ,

Sure, but I think this example also commingles labor with ownership (as is often the case).

Like you said, your plan involves building a four-family home. That’s labor and worth fair remuneration. It’s just that, in order to get that remuneration you’d be taking payment from tenants who build no equity for their money. Yeah, you’ll have to renovate in 30 years, but you’d still have property and the money paid in rent while they don’t.

A landlord can also simultaneously do valuable work supervising and managing a property. That’s not mutually exclusive with profiting from ownership, and we can separate how we evaluate the two. It even comes up with billionaires: Bill Gates obviously did work worth payment as CEO of Microsoft, it’s just not where he got most of his fortune. It can simultaneously be true that he’s a talented guy who deserved to be paid, but most of his fortune came from exploitative business practices and profiting off of the labor of others.

Also, to be clear, there’s a difference between structural and individual criticism. Obviously slumlords are pieces of shit, but there’s a difference between that and someone who really does work as a property manager doing right by their tenants, or a family renting out a part of their home to make ends meet. I can think that landlords should be judged on an individual basis, while landlording as a thing shouldn’t exist.

Woht24 ,

I’m on your side mostly but the property prices going up in those 30 years would net you a fortune alone. You could likely sell it as is and triple your money

Kusimulkku ,

Wouldn’t that depend a lot on the area?

Woht24 ,

Well yes it would but not entirely.

The old saying ‘buy land because they aren’t making anymore of it’ is true. As the world population grows, owning large amounts of land will be scarcer and scarcer. Most young people can’t afford a home in any western nation across the world and it’ll only get worse the world over as time goes on and the population continues to grow.

Kusimulkku ,

Some areas are losing a lot of their value. Waiting for population growth to fix that is playing the really long game

WaxedWookie ,

If it’s a poor investment, why do it?

the_third ,

That’s the point, I won’t. And so do many others and that’s why we have a shortage of appartments for rent here right now.

Uncle_Iroh ,

The big money’s isn’t in the rent, the rent is just to pay the mortgage and upkeep. It’s that you’re getting in debt that someone else is paying for you while they gaurd your asset which is only gaining in value, you then sell that somewhere in the futute.

abraxas ,

On average, the same amount of money dropped into the NASDAQ will have much better overall returns. Real estate ROI is about 4% per year, where the stock market has held close to 11% over the long haul nearly a century.

For small-time landlords, it’s often about “I have a place for me or a family member to live if things go bad”. For bigger ones, it’s the tax-shelter and the low volitility of real estate, as well as diversity in case you need to sell when their stock is down.

michaelrose ,

Being a landlord isn’t a way for someone who doesn’t have wealth to acquire it. It’s a way to park your existing wealth in quickly appreciating assets preferably purchased from other losers when they lose their asses and collect monthly rent too.

If on day one you have 700k and you purchase an existing property and in 30 days after you rent it out your property is still worth 700k and you are now ahead of the game in 30 days not 30 years.

If you purchased at a reasonable time a year later its worth 750 and you’ve collected 84k 1% of property value per month.

Most owners are in the top 10% to start with.

abraxas ,

quickly appreciating assets preferably purchased from other losers when they lose their asses and collect monthly rent too.

I wouldn’t say quickly appreciating, though. It’s a fairly slow growth rate for someone with that kind of money. They diversify into real estate because it creates some tax protections (your costs) and it’s fairly stable. Like buying into a terrible small business, but one that magically won’t fail. The things that could cause total loss to real estate are usually handled in standard insurance, unlike a business that can just tank.

The thing is, as you and the other person said, it’s all about the big companies who own tons of real estate AND the big companies that manage rental properties.

harmonea , in Please stop
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People see it as a way to spread awareness about the fediverse alternatives that are out there. Like "hey, if you like this, there's more where that came from." It's not for viewers who are already here, but for those where the post inevitably travels.

I dunno. Both watermarking and being annoyed at the watermarks seem like a waste of energy to me. If people are going to generate content, I'm not going to sass them about how unless it makes something about the content worse (harder to read etc).

balderdash9 OP ,
dingus ,
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My contribution from a few weeks ago:

lemmy.ml/post/5239029

harmonea ,
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Hey man, as long as you had fun.

567PrimeMover , in This is why I cleverly have no RAM
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Fun fact: It's a much simpler job to guide a vehicle to a planetary body than it is to render a webpage with a flat theme.

Source: It came to me in a dream

GuybrushThreepwo0d ,

Well… You need like what, 3 floats for position and 4 more for orientation. Multiply that by 3 to get velocity and acceleration values. Then I don’t know a few more floats per sensor and you have your whole state space in a few bytes.

Meanwhile a single image is like a megabyte so yeah.

Source: it’s past midnight and I should have gone to sleep ages ago

Gormadt ,
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And don’t forget about redundancies

The programming for the Apollo program was hand woven so comparing it to modern systems is kinda like comparing apples to oranges

Honestly the computers for the Apollo program were amazing and I highly recommend looking into the whole thing more, it’s so incredibly cool

Zellith ,

YOURE COOL

WoahWoah ,

No u

Ilovethebomb , in When someone replies to this and says 'stop making everything political' they mean to tell you to stop challenging the status quo

Jesus christ you’re insufferable.

Custoslibera OP ,

We all know Jesus can’t save us now.

oldGregg ,

You better watch out. It takes Jesus 4.5 seconds to get to earth

Twelve20two ,

Shit, he’s closer than the sun! How long is it relative to him?

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Grippy socks are standard issue for all in-patients in most US hospitals because they prevent falls and the floor is nasty. Seriously please wear them during your stay.

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