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RatzChatsubo , to lemmyshitpost in Elder scrolls

Anyone else hate the trend of removing arrow buttons?

hydrospanner ,

I am not a fan of the general trend of de-buttoning.

Like… isn’t the entire point to make things consistent and intuitive? Make a clickable button visually distinct!

namingthingsiseasy ,

I hated the trend of flat buttons. Then they removed the buttons. Then they basically removed the entire scrollbar altogether.

At this point, I’d happily go back to the age of flat buttons. That’s how bad things have gotten…

Aasikki ,

Someone actually uses those?

Chadus_Maximus ,

No.

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

Yes.

NaoPb ,

What I hate is how in Firefox in Linux I only have these tiny “slim” scrollbars that hide when not in use.

EddoWagt ,

I’m sure you can disable that behaviour

orphiebaby ,

I just looked and I don’t see it.

EddoWagt ,

It might need some CSS tweaking, which is definitely more complex than just a toggle in the settings unfortunately

basxto , (edited )
@basxto@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I didn’t notice much since generally don’t have the arrow buttons and I wouldn’t use them. I use arrow keys, pagination keys, home/end key, scroll wheel/motion, drag the bar or click somewhere to jump there. Those buttons were always quite tiny.

But the behavior of my scrollbar looks like this: slides in on use or when the mouse gets moved; gets fatter when hovered

Though hiding stuff sucks indeed.

Edit: You can configure scrollbar to always be visible.

NaoPb ,

Well I mainly want the big scrollbars back. Even if these shadow scrollbars of 2px width don’t auto-hide,I still hate them.

I did find an addon at some point but it seems that it can’t override system settings but I can’t find where it should be a system setting to use these slim scrollbars.

basxto ,
@basxto@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The scrollbar should double it’s width when you hover it and the hover area is the width of the wider scroll bar with a 6px wide bar and 3px margins on the left and right.

“Always show scrollbars” also constantly gives you the wider scrollbar.

Unless you were already talking about this scrollbar and not the thinner 3px wide one with 1px margin

random_character_a , to lemmyshitpost in God damn, she had a family...
@random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

Young Val Kilmer

Etterra ,

No this is his drunk, drug abusing cousin from Florida, Val Kilme.

FilthyShrooms , to lemmyshitpost in Big sip

Go ahead. Drink it

IrateAnteater , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!

I don’t think any data centers would be using ground water for cooling. They’d likely be on closed loop systems. And the power draw is only an issue if we decide to not fix where the grid gets its power from.

AnomalousBit ,

Found the escaped AI entity guys! It’s right here!

jol ,

Of course the power draw is an issue. There’s no 100% clean energy and our grid is still not 100% renewable. If we continue expanding the energy use in frivolous projects, we’re barely moving the needle. We want to do both, reduce energy use and clean up the grid.

dependencyinjection ,

Whilst I don’t want to debate the energy usage here.

How do we define frivolous projects? Some might think the LHC was frivolous but it had real world benefits.

Catoblepas ,

There is absolutely no stretch of the imagination that could define AI generated waifu masturbation fuel as anything but frivolous. Comparing that to the LHC, which has advanced our understanding of physics, is both insulting and deeply unserious.

dependencyinjection ,

I don’t recall making a direct comparison. In fact people said the same thing about the LHC. It is literally impossible to no what the future will bring.

Catoblepas ,

There is no future in which generating scantily clad anime waifus will be comparable to progressing our understanding of physics, even if you dance around it.

dependencyinjection ,

Where you’re getting the waifu shit from is beyond me, but if you can’t see past that then we have little to discuss.

All I am saying is we literally have no idea where any of this tech will lead. It could lead nowhere it could lead to breakthroughs in other areas. Anybody that pretends to know, is lying or being disingenuous.

jol ,

It’s definitely a spectrum, with crypto sitting at one end and heating homes in the winter on the other.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

data center engineer here! incorrect

IrateAnteater ,

Then regulations should be put in place to ban that practice. There is no good excuse to not be on a closed loop system.

meat_popsicle ,

There is no good excuse to not be on a closed loop system.

But that costs $ and Microsoft doesn’t make money by spending it when they absolutely don’t have to.

Peddlephile ,

That’s right! They’re better off spending it on lobbying so they end up getting more money!

meat_popsicle ,

Companies have up to a 1000-1 ROI on lobbying.

Link

It’s foolish not to buy what’s on sale.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

We live in capitalism, comrade. The fact that it costs money to make it a closed loop system is the best possible excuse not to

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

yes true

genie ,

Genuine question – how does it “use” that water? Isn’t it primarily utilized for plain old water cooling, where in mind it just evaporates at worst?

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

I think they mainly use evaporative cooling systems. Industrial sites often have closed loop cooling systems for equipment and large cooling towers to control the air temperature in large buildings. It probably depends on geographic location. Evaporative cooling is much more effective in areas with low humidity.

Catoblepas ,

And the power draw is only an issue if we decide to not fix where the grid gets its power from.

So it is and remains an unavoidable problem with frivolous AI use for the foreseeable future?

IrateAnteater ,

No, because there are already locations in the world where clean grids exist. Focusing on AI use as an environmental problem is not helpful. Focus on the source of the energy, not it’s uses.

Catoblepas ,

How many AI data centers are in the countries that have clean grids, as opposed to the US?

“Please don’t pay attention to the gorilla setting the house on fire, just give the gorilla a better source of fuel.”

meat_popsicle ,

“Also, that guy over there is using a magnifying glass to light paper on fire, ignore me using napalm since fire is just fire”

calcopiritus ,

If you place a data center in a 100% green location, then you’re reducing the supply of 100% energy, so everything else has to consume less green energy. Therefore, by using 100% green energy you just increased your carbon footprint.

Green energy, like all resources, is limited. If you waste it on a glorified food predictor you can’t use it on a electric harvester that will feed the people.

Even if you want to avoid this problem and create your own green power plant for your own data center (creating the green supply and demand at the same time), you are still spending green energy resources (rare metals and manufacturing capacity) that went into creating your powerplant instead of creating a powerplant for electric harvesters.

There’s no way around it. Misusing electricity is accelerating climate change, one way or another. Even if the energy you are misusing is 100% green.

Got_Bent , to lemmyshitpost in Ever been this bored at work?

I made a functioning slot machine in Excel while bored at work. Got flummoxed at how to keep a running total of wins and losses though.

kromem , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!

I mean, there are good uses as well. Just as an example:

  • Providing helpful information: People are looking for information to reduce their environmental footprint. Fuel-efficient routing in Google Maps uses AI to suggest routes that have fewer hills, less traffic, and constant speeds with the same or similar ETA. Since launching in October 2021, fuel-efficient routing is estimated to have helped prevent more than 2.4 million metric tons of CO2e emissions — the equivalent of taking approximately 500,000 fuel-based cars off the road for a year.
  • Predicting climate-related events: Floods are the most common natural disaster, causing thousands of fatalities and disrupting the lives of millions every year. Since 2018, Google Research has been working on our flood forecasting initiative, which uses advanced AI and geospatial analysis to provide real-time flooding information so communities and individuals can prepare for and respond to riverine floods. Our Flood Hub platform is available to more than 80 countries, providing forecasts up to seven days in advance for 460 million people.
  • Optimizing climate action: Contrails — the thin, white lines you sometimes see behind airplanes — have a surprisingly large impact on our climate. The 2022 IPCC report noted that contrail clouds account for roughly 35% of aviation’s global warming impact — which is over half the impact of the world’s jet fuel. Google Research teamed up with American Airlines and Breakthrough Energy to bring together huge amounts of data — like satellite imagery, weather and flight path data — and used AI to develop contrail forecast maps to test if pilots can choose routes that avoid creating contrails. After these test flights, we found that the pilots reduced contrails by 54%.

blog.google/…/report-ai-sustainability-google-cop…

Even something like household phantom power currently uses more energy than AI at data centers.

I’m all for putting pressure on corporate climate impact and finally putting to rest the propaganda of personal responsibility dreamt up by lobbyists, but I don’t know that ‘AI’ is the right Boogeyman here.

Croquette ,

AI isn’t the boogeyman, the corpos using it for dumb shit is.

Venator ,

Exactly: replace AI with “crypto mining” or any other waste of processing power in this paragraph and it is just as relevant…

IMALlama ,

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I personally find googles fuel savings optimistic and/or flat out misleading. “Hey, you could turn off your usual route here and get there in a similar time… Or you could stay on your usual route and save 2% on gas” seems to be a very frequent occurrence for me.

I also don’t think that needs AI. The pathfinding algorithm just needs to apply different weights to the choices based on things like changes in elevation, number of stop signs, total distance, etc. Navigation systems from yester-year could do this well before the prevalence of AI. That said, AI can be used to develop and/or tune these algorithms instead of having a dedicated team of humans focused on this specific area.

teddy2021 ,

But see, that is AI, just not machine learning. It’s classical AI.

Anticorp ,

How would contrails cause global warming? They’re just condensation.

a_wild_mimic_appears ,

From the Report, Chapter 10.5.2:

If the conditions are suitable, emissions of soot and water vapour can trigger the formation of contrails (Kärcher 2018), which can spread to form extensive contrail-cirrus cloud coverage. Such cloud coverage is estimated to have a combined ERF that is about 57% of the current net ERF of global aviation (Lee et al. 2021), although a comparison of cirrus cloud observations under pre- and post-COVID-19 pandemic conditions suggest that this forcing could be smaller (Digby et al. 2021). Additional effects from aviation from aerosol-cloud interactions on high-level ice clouds through soot (Chen and Gettelman 2013; Zhou and Penner 2014; Penner et al. 2018), and lower-level warm clouds through sulphur (Righi et al. 2013; Kapadia et al. 2016) are highly uncertain, with no best estimates available (Lee et al. 2021).

The 2 papers listed which quantify the effect:

  • Lee, D.S. et al., 2021: The contribution of global aviation to anthropogenic climate forcing for 2000 to 2018. Atmos. Environ. , 244, doi:10.1016/j.atmosenv.2020.117834. Link to paper
  • Digby, R.A.R., N.P. Gillett, A.H. Monahan, and J.N.S. Cole, 2021: An Observational Constraint on Aviation-Induced Cirrus From the COVID-19-Induced Flight Disruption. Geophys. Res. Lett. , 48(20) , e2021GL095882-e2021GL095882, doi:10.1029/2021GL095882. Link to paper
Anticorp ,

Thanks, I had no idea. I guess the crazy people from the 90’s complaining about contrails weren’t completely off-base about them being harmful.

neo , to memes in Do what you must; I have already won

He’s not the Michael Scott that we want, but the one we need.

Kolanaki , to lemmyshitpost in Big sip
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Huh… You’d think Electric Yellow would be brighter.

CubitOom , to lemmyshitpost in Big sip

Do you get a plumber or an electrician?

terminhell ,

Yes

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

Electrumber

Gork , to lemmyshitpost in Big sip

Big Gulp™

yogthos , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Systemic issues require systemic solutions, not individual efforts. The current state of our society is a clear manifestation of this principle. It’s time to address the root cause which is capitalism.

AdmiralShat ,

Capitalism is too broad of a term to make any type of useful argument. Democratic socialism is still a capitalist way of doing things when it’s miles apart from corporatism. Both still fall under Capitalism umbrella, however one is definitely worse than the other.

Ultimately, commerce will never cease, resources will always cost, etc. Just update your terminology and you’ll find much more reception to your point.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not too broad a term at all. Capitalism is an economic system where the capital owning class holds power in society. Whatever flavor you have leads you down the same path in the end. Ultimately, commerce should not be equated with capitalism. Just try thinking more broadly instead of trying to carry water for a deplorable system that’s killing us all.

EdibleFriend , to lemmyshitpost in God damn, she had a family...
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Vulcan in the front, party in the back.

Azzu , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!

Theme song for this post: youtu.be/M0tBgQxur3g

ULS , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!

Marketing is everyone’s common enemy.

Imgonnatrythis ,

With a cheap crappy product and a high ratio spent on marketing you can successfully sell absolute garbage to a large number of people and still turn a calculated profit. That shouldn’t be possible. Taxation on advertising should be high enough to crush businesses that are almost exclusively marketing machines (I’m looking at you sugar drink industry).

Tolstoshev ,
brbposting ,

Removed the common enemy (new ‘tube links be trackin’):

youtu.be/tHEOGrkhDp0

SendMePhotos , to memes in We've all just got to do our part!

Wait… Wait… Is this just idiocracy? Like… We all joke, but now we have computers that will automatically lay off workers like in the movie?

Venator ,

Nah its actually dumber than they predicted: the manager asks the computer what to do today and the computer tells the manager to lay people off.

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