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Bishma , to worldnews in Johnson & Johnson sues researchers who linked talc to cancer
@Bishma@social.fossware.space avatar

I’m sure this won’t have any chilling effects amongst the researchers who keep us all safe.

Edit to add that Johnson & Johnson is/was also trying to use patent loopholes to make sure poor people die from tuberculosis; until the internet got mad.

reverendsteveii ,

The secondary patent particularly irked some advocates because the drug’s development was largely underwritten by public funds, according to a 2020 analysis. That study found public sector funds contributed $455 million to $747 million to getting bedaquiline to market, compared to $90 million to $240 million from J&J.

We pay for the development of the drug, they get the patent, then we pay for the drug. Socialize cost, privatize profits.

yesdogishere ,

most of the hype about danger from talcum powder is quite fake. the link between cancer and the powder is hugely tenuous and the researchers are quite shameful. Poor J&J are being victimised when there are millions sufferring from the absence of their valuable and safe talcum powder,

hotpot8toe , (edited ) to technology in Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

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  • Warl0k3 ,

    Totally unrelated to the OP but damn I’m impressed that DDG is such a large percentage of the market. 1.28% sounds like nothing but I can’t even guess how many millions of searches that is, that’s absolutely wild. well done duckfriends.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Doing my part. Not in Indonesia though.

    RmDebArc_5 ,
    @RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Can one not change their region to bypass this?

    hotpot8toe , (edited )

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  • RmDebArc_5 ,
    @RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I meant in Duckduckgo

    TheBigBrother ,

    Look for a VPN, good luck!! remember abusing porn it’s bad.

    jeena ,
    @jeena@piefed.jeena.net avatar

    Same here in Korea.

    TheBigBrother ,

    Uncle VPN it’s your friend.

    moe90 ,
    @moe90@feddit.nl avatar

    they want to crackdown vpn as well

    TheBigBrother ,

    That’s pretty hard, you can even selfhost your VPN outside the country, which it’s harder to block.

    MCasq_qsaCJ_234 ,

    TOR is going to have an increase in users

    jeena ,
    @jeena@piefed.jeena.net avatar

    Most of the time it is not necessary. For the few times I need it, I set up WireGuard on my parents router in Germany and can connect to it.

    DarkDarkHouse ,
    @DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Maybe one can change their religion to bypass it then

    AceSLS ,

    My guess? This is just PR from their politicians to say “they are saving the country” or whatever bullshit without actually doing anything useful

    My guess? They’re trying to suck up to Google

    throws_lemy ,
    @throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

    My guess? This is just PR from their politicians to say “they are saving the country” or whatever bullshit without actually doing anything useful

    This is just some of BS public stunts, they are trying to hide and create misinformation to deceive people. The mastermind of the online gambling issue here, is one of their cronies. A businessman, this guy being protected by top military brass and former general including a new elected president.

    todd_bonzalez ,
    @todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

    Search query: “porn”

    Safe search: moderate

    That’ll do it

    RmDebArc_5 ,
    @RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Ddg will show results for “porn“ as long as safe search isn’t strict

    Prox , to news in Two billionaire Harris donors hope she will fire FTC Chair Lina Khan

    Amazing that we don’t consider shit like this to be bribery.

    MCasq_qsaCJ_234 ,

    It would actually be considered lobbying.

    Xeroxchasechase ,

    Maybe the citizens should unite…

    Loduz_247 ,

    To demand that the government finance the political campaigns of the candidates and that there be no more lobbying?

    Xeroxchasechase ,

    Yeah. For sure. Us citizens had enormous power together, but they don’t exercise it. (I was also referencing “citizens united” ruling, that made bribery legal)

    ColeSloth ,

    Research “citizens united”. It’s one of the biggest rulings that ever helped totally fuck the country up.

    Hugh_Jeggs ,

    I promise you everyone else does 😂

    wewbull , to world in Russia warns Europe: if you take our assets, we have a response that will hurt

    If they want to hurt us over it, it means it will hurt them if we do it.

    though some bankers and European officials are worried that simply taking the assets would create a dangerous precedent.

    Just make a law that it’s a 100% tax on assets identified as falling under sanctions related to a aggressive invading nation. Precedent limited.

    5714 ,

    Also what kind of precedent is this: “If we ever were in a war of aggression, we don’t want our assets to be seized (even for the resulting damage).”

    Name proposals: War of Agression Tax, Imperialism Tax, WAR (Withhold Agressors Reparation) Tax

    ik5pvx ,

    I like your WAR acronym

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Huh. That’s what it’s good for.

    tate ,

    Absolutely nothing!

    girlfreddy ,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    heads over to Piped

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Imagine if we set a dangerous precedent of seizing rich people’s assets if they are involved in anything nerfarious! Society would surely collapse!

    gregorum ,

    It might, lol

    aeronmelon ,

    Don’t threaten me with a good time!

    fluxion ,

    People get drafted, innocents gets killed, citizens get taxed, all considered a given when war comes knocking. But God forbid some rich oligarchs lose some percentage of their wealth over it.

    sylver_dragon , to world in Russia says NATO, at 75, has returned to Cold War mindset

    Yes, yes it has. And it’s directly because Russia engaging in exactly the type of expansionist wars NATO was set up to stop.

    SamsonSeinfelder , to news in Trump should not face trial in Georgia if he wins 2024 election, lawyer says

    If the bank robber is able to break into the bank on his second attempt, he should not be held accountable for his first attempt. Solid logic. Sure.

    Nastybutler , to news in Trump committed egregious intelligence breach, ex-UK spy tells court

    Mueller concluded in 2019 that there was no evidence of a criminal conspiracy between Trump’s 2016 campaign and Russia.

    That’s not what Mueller said at all. Did Bill Barr ghost write this paragraph?

    NewNewAccount ,

    Weird coming from Reuters.

    vanontom ,
    @vanontom@lemmy.world avatar

    Reuters also regularly regurgitates disinformation and obvious lies coming directly from the Kremlin. I guess they don’t consider truth or accuracy very important, only “reporting news”.

    rjs001 , to worldnews in Taiwan reports second large-scale China air force incursion this week
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    How can a country intrude into its own territory? These separatists need to be put in their places.

    DTFpanda ,

    Fuck the CCP.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    -Go back to your Fox News

    -Learn the proper names of things before attempting to engage about them because it only makes you appear foolish to use the wrong acronyms

    DTFpanda ,

    Fuck Fox News too

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Go back to watching your Fox News. You are clearly caught up in their racist propaganda

    DTFpanda ,

    This is a bot ass reply if I’ve ever seen one

    Duamerthrax ,

    Fox News and Russian/CCP media use the same double talk, enemy at the gates, boogie man bad speak. Supporting Russian aggression in Ukraine or Chinese aggression in Taiwan is the as supporting American agression in the middle east. It all has the same stink.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Aww, another western conservative who doesn’t know proper acronyms and defends Nazis, how original

    Duamerthrax ,

    Lol, I went to high school in the years after 911 and had trash thrown at me and had to have a meeting with the principal when I stopped saluting the flag. I felt like everyone lost their minds and were replaced by pod people. If you’re going to make personal attacks, take a bit of time to check the comment history of who you’re insulating. I’ve never once simped for America.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    You clearly are simping for american and the conservative nut jobs in the country with their racist lies about china

    CannotSleep420 ,

    Something to consider about western propaganda is that it has many mouths saying the same thing. If fucks news and similar cranks were the only ones peddling the China bad shit, you would see more division along the kayfabe lines between the demonrats and the rethuglicans.

    yogthos ,
    @yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

    I love how liberals are only capable of regurgitating a handful of tropes they memorize like the bots they are.

    CannotSleep420 ,

    Stunning and bold.

    Badass_panda ,

    It can’t, so this must not be part of the PRC’s territory! :)

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I bet you agree with the January 6th rioters too!

    Badass_panda ,

    How are those things related? There’s a wide spectrum between “right wing wacko” and “tankie nutjob”.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Because both are ridiculous conservative conspiracy theories with no basis in reality

    Badass_panda ,

    The existence… of the nation … of Taiwan … is a ridiculous conservative conspiracy theory?

    My man, I’ve been there. It existed! Go figure

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    There is an island called Chinese Taipei with a group of conservative nut jobs try to claim a historically ridiculous claim of independence

    Badass_panda ,

    Gosh, really? Did they just move out there? How did they get there? Are there many of them? Eye opening stuff!

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Yes, they moved there and committed ethnic cleansing against the indigenous people of the island. They looted China, lost the civil war and then killed natives when they fled to Taipei.

    Badass_panda ,

    Wow that sounds awful, I guess my imperialist government really misled me! Thanks for finally telling me the truth

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    You are welcome

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Western Tawan has no claim over the Island of Taiwan.

    台湾一中四

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Go back to watching your Fox News

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Go back to sucking Winnie the Pooh’s cock. Too bad he’s too scared to ever actually do anything. He knows that he’s just a little dictator that can only impress or oppress his own people. It would be funny to see how hard you fail, just like you did the last time you decided to pick a fight with your neighbor, Vietnam.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Yay, racism! How original

    AngryCommieKender , (edited )

    No racism there. I can not be racist against my own family member, which you are. You just wanna wave that card because you think it will work. That was pure anti-CCCP sentiment because your entire dictatorship is nothing more than a paper tiger, just like the other wannabe superpower, Ruzzia. You’re an authoritarian dictatorship, the US is imperialistic, the Ruzzians are fascists. Of the three the only one that is even worth negotiating with is the US, because at least they will pay lip service to their people, unlike the genocidal CCCP and Moscow.

    China was nothing but a bully to their neighbors for 4500 years and you want to claim that you aren’t a wannabe bully because you got your face smashed in 50 years ago by Vietnam, and you haven’t dared to try since? Get out of here with that shit. You aren’t communist. You aren’t capitalist. You’re still Han bullys, and just waiting to genocide everyone that isn’t. Just ask the Uigers.

    The difference now is that the rest of the world won’t let you, and you’re scared of trying because you fell as a power over 100 years ago, have never caught up, and though you tried hard your leaders ensured you’ll never surpass the US. You got close. That one child policy really bit you guys in the ass.

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Your comment is literally filled with racist comments agaisnt Chinese people to the brim. I guess that makes sense as it seems you have a history of racist remarks. CCCP? Haha, it seems you don’t know the name nor can you write

    CannotSleep420 ,

    You know the redditors have migrated to lemmy when there are people unironically calling China West Taiwan.

    Ataraxia ,
    @Ataraxia@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah so you’re one of those qanon guys. Jfc…

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Whilst you are the one to defend the fascist dictator in Ukraine

    CatholicSocialist ,

    So let me get this straight, a group of people overwhelmingly wish to separate, and the government tries to prevent them from doing that, and you don’t think that’s imperialism? I bet you don’t feel the same about separatism in Catalonia, Donbas, Kurdistan, or the Zapatistas. Classic tankie logic: imperialism good when done by purported “communists.”

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Do you feel the same about the people of Donbas?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Uh, yes? I don’t support the blatant invasion and warcrimes by Russia but I can recognize Ukraine has a fascist problem too.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    You do support Donbas independence though?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Read the first two words of my comment tankie 🤣🤣

    brain_in_a_box ,

    I did, but then I also read the rest of your comment, which muddied things a lot.

    You’re getting pretty damn hostile and evasive about this.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Muddied? There’s this thing called “nuance.” I support Donbas independence, I simply don’t think it gives Russia the right to invade anywhere outside of Donbas, is that that complicated to understand?

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    So if you invade another country and as part of their defense of their country, their military enters your country, they’re now the aggressors?

    Do you apply that principal to all conflicts, or only against enemies of the West?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Huh? When did Ukraine invade Russia?

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    They’ve been shelling and raiding the Donbas, which you consider to be independent, for about 9 years.

    Surely you are aware of this, it’s pretty essential background on a political topic that you are highly opinionated about.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    They invaded Donbas, who is allied with Russia.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    So let me get this straight: if the US/Canada were hostile with each other, and the people of Alberta, Canada, were separatists that allied themselves with the US, but the Canadian government refused to recognize Alberta’s sovereignty, you would support a full-scale, deadly American invasion of Canada?

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    To be clear, to be a true analog the province needs to be an ethnic minority which is being targeted by the national government.

    Say Alberta was the only majority English speaking province, and Ottawa started putting up statues of a Quebecois terrorist leader from 80 years ago who lead the massacre of 100k English speakers and allied with Hitler during WW2, then they announced that English would be banned from all government facilities including primary schools, and when Alberta tried to secede they sent Nazi paramilitary death squads to harass them and started bombing them daily.

    At that point, if the US interceded and went past the Albertan border to attack other military targets in Canada, you would consider that a war of aggression by America against Canada and not them defending their ally, Alberta?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    At that point, if the US interceded and went past the Albertan border to attack other military targets in Canada, you would consider that a war of aggression by America against Canada and not them defending their ally, Alberta?

    If America’s massacring civilians in Ottawa and Toronto? Yes, of course I would. Any sane person would. Stay in Alberta.

    You people call yourselves anti-war? I think you’re the real liberals here.

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    What number of civilians have to die before your defensive war is an unacceptable war of aggression now?

    Did the Allied counter offensive against the Nazis come in below that number? How about the Union during the US civil war?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    You people are pro-war whenever it’s convenient for you I guess. Those comparisons are out of line and clearly different as I already explained.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sounds like you’re the one who’s pro-war whenever it’s convenient for you. When it’s not convenient, you just say “that’s different!” And refuse to elaborate.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    So you support America invading the Middle East when a hostile government oppresses separatists that ally themselves with the US there?

    brain_in_a_box ,

    No. Why would I?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Because it’s exactly like what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    So?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    So what makes it different that you can support Russia’s brutal invasion?

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Show me where I said that.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    You are bad faith, intellectually dishonest people.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Speak for yourself, you are the one trying to put words in my mouth.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Oml SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPP

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    How did Russia invade the Donbas by putting troops in it after being invited? Please admit that the answer is that you actually believe the Donbas is Ukraine and don’t care about its people’s self determination so I can quit asking you this question that you have been dodging for like an hour now.

    MattsAlt ,
    @MattsAlt@hexbear.net avatar

    What an awful analogy that misses any sort of context or nuance about the situation.

    That’s the problem with liberals like you, that you think things can be understood by imagining it as something superficially similar.

    Do you understand what historical materialism is?

    brain_in_a_box ,

    If I considered it justified for the US to enter the war on the side of the separatists, I would absolutely say that it is then justified for the US to invade Canada proper.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    When 99.9% of people who unironically use the word tankie, and think that ‘fascist’ means ‘anything I don’t like’, also fiercely oppose Donbas independence, and when the one I’m talking to is also refusing to just give a clear answer, I’m not about to say I’m in the wrong for asking some clarifying questions.

    Also, why doesn’t it give Russia the right to invade? Was it wrong for the allies to invade Germany proper during WW2?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    when the one I’m talking to is also refusing to just give a clear answer

    I very clearly said I supported their independence, but okay.

    Also, why doesn’t it give Russia the right to invade?

    So let me get this straight, you support civilians being massacred and innocent lives being lost? You really think Ukraine is on the same level of Nazi fucking Germany? Honestly I wouldn’t even much of a problem if they just invaded Donbas but they’re invading the whole fucking country and causing so much death and destruction. How is that justified? How can you call yourself anti-war and anti-imperialism and justify a brutal invasion? Some true colors being shown…

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    I very clearly said I supported their independence, but okay.

    But you are clearly being deceitful, just in this comment you basically admit that you don’t actually support their independence.

    Look:

    Honestly I wouldn’t even much of a problem if they just invaded Donbas

    The DPR and LPR invited Russia. How could they have “just invaded Donbas.”

    Please explain

    A) The Donbas isn’t really independent and you consider it Ukrainian property. **(Surely not, you insist that this isn’t the case)**B) You consider soldiers who are in a foreign country to be invaders regardless of the relationship of the two states? **(Can’t be this or the US is invading half the planet right this second, including Taiwan)**C) ???

    Please enlighten us.

    This isn’t even getting into the point that multiple people made that you’ve ignored for half an hour, that once you’re in a war with someone who wants to conquer you, sending your soldiers into their territory isn’t an act of aggression, otherwise the US and the Soviets aggressed against the Nazis, which only an actual Nazi would claim.

    (To be clear, I don’t think you’re a Nazi, just an intellectually dishonest liberal).

    brain_in_a_box ,

    I very clearly said I supported their independence, but okay.

    You then added a lot of seeming qualifiers.

    So let me get this straight, you support civilians being massacred and innocent lives being lost?

    Please show me where I said this.

    You really think Ukraine is on the same level of Nazi fucking Germany?

    Please show me where I said this.

    How can you call yourself anti-war and anti-imperialism

    Please show me where I said this.

    Some true colors being shown…

    The true colours of yourself, having to lie about me to make your point.

    panopticon ,

    you support civilians being massacred and innocent lives being lost?

    no, this was why the people’s republics of donetsk and luhansk invited military aid, and was the cause behind the Minsk agreements as well as Russia recognizing the Donbas republics

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    Wait, do you support Donbas self rule or not? Are they not allowed to invite their ally (Russia) to support them militarily in a war of aggression by their neighbor, Ukraine?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    I very clearly am saying I support Donbas but Russia has taken it too far and has become the larger aggressor.

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    How should Russia have defended their allies, the DPR and LPR without attacking their aggressor’s supply lines?

    Can you think of any wars in which both participants didn’t attack least try to attack military supply chains?

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    Tell me, what are your opinions on Crimea and the Donbas, CatholicSocialist?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    I think all regions deserve self-autonomy determined by democratic referendums, unlike the tankies that think the Republic of China should be re-annexed…

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    So you oppose Ukrainian rule over Crimea and the Donbas?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    No shit sherlock.

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    So you oppose the Ukranian puppet government’s use of fascist militias to commit ethnic cleansing there?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Um, I support peace and democracy.

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    That’s good, so do I. But there are other people, people wearing totenkopfs and firing mortars into town squares full of people they call cockroaches for the language they speak, who feel quite differently than us. What is your solution to this, so that peace and democracy can prevail?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Idk, not my place to say. Your solution to oppression of a minority group in one province is full scale war and mass murders of tens of thousands of civilians? Holy shit you guys are warmongerers, America should be paying you! Guarantee you wouldn’t feel the same if America was Russia and Ukraine/Donbas were countries in the Global South in this case tho.

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    It doesn’t seem like you do given you referred to the current war as an invasion by Russia and Ukraine has been shelling it’s neighbors the LPR and DPR for nearly a decade.

    Can you clarify why Russia shouldn’t be involved in the war between Ukraine and its smaller neighbors?

    JohnBrownsBussy2 ,
    @JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net avatar

    Was the United States Civil War imperialism?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    The Civil War was imperialism but it was good imperialism. Fascist breakaways are a bit different: the Union taking over the South was infringing on their self-governance, but that’s a good thing, Confederates were pure evil. It’s like after WWII and Axis powers became occupied, could you technically call that colonialism? Maybe, but they needed to be.

    If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them… but they aren’t. They’re neoliberal (much like China), which is lame, but they’re not a Nazi state. Remind me, who was the first in Asia to legalize gay marriage?

    Your comparison is bad faith.

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them… but they aren’t.

    Taiwan AKA the Republic of China was founded as a settler colonial military dictatorship

    CatholicSocialist ,

    And are they a military dictatorship today? Even when they were, they weren’t a threat to world peace or humanity like the Confederacy or the Japanese Empire. By that logic do you think the US military should intervene in African military dictatorships?

    TheLepidopterists ,
    @TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

    The KMT was certainly a threat to Formosans, and to leftists living in the island they’d seized.

    If the Confederacy had survived the war as rump state in Southern Florida and continued to claim to rule the entire US South and in the mid nineties claimed to be a democracy and then finally elected a non-military president in the aughts, would you call the US imperialist for not recognizing the Confederacy?

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Wait, so China is Neoliberal and fascist and state capitalist!

    And here I was thinking words had meanings.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Oh please you hexshits use fascist and neoliberal interchangeably all the time, and you’re not wrong.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Please show me where I’ve used neoliberal and fascist interchangeably.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU “fascist” sometimes and “neoliberal” other times.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    And that’s relevant here why?

    g_g ,
    @g_g@hexbear.net avatar

    because you hexshits are a monolith obviously

    Commiejones ,
    @Commiejones@hexbear.net avatar

    I see you also read PostingMachine

    JohnBrownsBussy2 ,
    @JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net avatar

    Okay, that’s consistent. Given that the modern incarnation of Taiwan was founded as a fascistic & genocidal settler colony, what was the timepoint at which a decisive end to the Chinese Civil War shifted from acceptable to unacceptable in your eyes?

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Almost like the reason some of the population is because they stole from the Chinese people and fled to the island when the people fought back. The oppressor doesn’t deserve to get to pick to be independent

    CatholicSocialist ,

    And how long ago was that exactly?

    rjs001 ,
    @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    1949

    JohnBrownsBussy2 ,
    @JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net avatar
    silent_water ,
    @silent_water@hexbear.net avatar

    do you know the history of how the KMT became the ROC or are you asking loaded questions without any knowledge of the history?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Countries change dumbass

    silent_water ,
    @silent_water@hexbear.net avatar

    settler-colonists remain settler-colonists. also if NATO support vanished overnight, reunification would be inevitable.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    You do realize Xinjiang was started as a colony right?

    silent_water ,
    @silent_water@hexbear.net avatar

    what does that have to do with the price of butter?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    China is a setter-colonist state…

    silent_water ,
    @silent_water@hexbear.net avatar

    those words, you use them, but I don’t think you know what they mean

    CatholicSocialist ,
    edge ,

    I bet you don’t feel the same about separatism in Catalonia, Donbas, Kurdistan, or the Zapatistas.

    Literally none of those are imperialism. Imperialism isn’t having a region want independence. Do you think Scotland not being allowed to have a vote is imperialism?

    Chapo0114 ,
    @Chapo0114@hexbear.net avatar

    Not them, but fucking yes? Like, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales were literally conquered by imperialist England.

    PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS ,
    @PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net avatar

    Germanic migrants were doing imperialism in Wales, you heard it here first folks

    CatholicSocialist ,

    Yes fucking genius.

    meth_dragon ,
    @meth_dragon@hexbear.net avatar

    group of people overwhelmingly wish to separate

    this is just not true. the overwhelming majority want a return to the status quo, a status quo that was very consistently gravitating towards china before the US decided to stir shit using its DPP puppets. the taiwanese people are perfectly capable of understanding which side their bread is buttered on and that their families cannot subsist on a diet of freedom and democracy.

    CatholicSocialist ,
    meth_dragon ,
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    i can’t believe i enabled images for this

    they’re not even figures, they’re just snippets of text from natopedia that somehow unequivocally support my claim

    what am i supposed to do with this? gloat?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    If you actually read it you would know the vast majority either want to keep the self-governance or become fully independent (50%). Both of those are some form of separatism, even if most of them don’t want anything radical that could trigger a war.

    meth_dragon ,
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    and a plurality of people believe that maintaining the status quo == independence

    where is the gotcha?

    CatholicSocialist ,

    I said Taiwanese people are overwhelmingly separatists. Proved to be true, seeing only 18% want China having any control over them.

    meth_dragon , (edited )
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    jfc, points for trying to turn this into a semantics game but sorry, fuck you

    lets look at bbc, first result we get when we search "台独民意调查“ on google.hk because apparently google.tw is too spicy for google’s techbro commissariat. whatever, close enough:

    2020年的数据首先反映在统独立场。台湾人偏向“台湾独立”的支持度为27.7%,是历年最高;“尽快独立”的民意有7.4%。此外,希望“两岸统一”则占5.1%,是历年最低。选择“维持现状再决定”的民众比例为28.7%,而且在持续下降中。“永远维持现状”者占23.6%

    even tries to reframe it by breaking up de facto status quo supporters into two camps but plurality still supports status quo

    how about cn language natopedia

    2020, NCCU (same as the bbc study):

    1. “尽快独立”占7.4%
    2. “偏向独立”占27.7%,为历年最高
    3. “永远维持现状”占23.6%
    4. “维持现状再决定”的民众比例持续下降至28.7%
    5. “尽快统一”占0.7%创下新低

    2021, united news:

    1. “尽快独立”占18%
    2. “维持现况再独立”占16%
    3. “永远维持现状”占51%
    4. “维持现状再统一”占6%
    5. “尽快统一”占4%
    6. “无意见”占3%

    2022, ‘taiwanese public opinion foundation’ (read: cia cutout):

    1. “坚持台湾独立”占27.3%
    2. “赞成但不坚持台湾独立”占22.8%
    3. “维持现状但偏台湾独立”占11.3%
    4. “永远维持现状”占8.4%
    5. “维持现状但偏两岸统一”占6.0%
    6. “赞成但不坚持两岸统一”占9.4%
    7. “坚持两岸统一”占2.4%

    look at how they progressively split the status quo category (the size of which does not demonstrably change) into smaller and smaller demos to try and push an agenda

    let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and more closely examine what is obviously the most compromised source here. this is the cia cutout’s (shitty and completely unprofessional) paper from this year. they’d probably lose funding if they put something as damning as actual independence vs status quo numbers out there so they decided to go with plausibly deniable second order opinion sets and STILL get blown the fuck out

    just take the L dude, taiwanese are completely cognizant of the fact they’re being primed to be the next ukraine and most of them understandably want no part of that

    CatholicSocialist ,

    You’re putting Chinese character as if anyone here know how to read it.

    The only thing in the website you linked show this:

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/e3d2de91-d7b2-4659-9b27-4d8e99568a09.png

    iie ,

    I’ve never heard of the Taiwan Public Opinion Foundation. It’s hard to find info about it.

    Awoo ,

    a group of people overwhelmingly wish to separate

    No they don’t. You are just flat out fucking wrong.

    https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/17a1fafb-620f-4eed-b287-c55a307036dc.png

    CatholicSocialist ,

    The “status quo” for most Taiwanese is de facto separation genius, and they don’t want to do anything rash.

    Awoo ,

    No it isn’t. The status quo is that Taiwan is a region of China, independently governed. This is the case for MANY places around the world, here in the UK for example we have Scottish and Welsh governments, independent of the UK government. Scotland has its own parliament. Does that make it independent? Fuck no it doesn’t and there’s no mechanism for it to leave either.

    There are MORE people in Scotland that want Scottish independence than Taiwan. Chew on that for a bit.

    CatholicSocialist ,

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  • Awoo ,

    This is semantics. You’re playing with the difference between independent as a country and independent in governance, two different things. You’re not participating in good faith, as per usual.

    CatholicSocialist ,

    And my original comment was based on “separatism” which includes independent governance. Most Taiwanese hate China either way.

    Awoo ,

    No it fucking doesn’t, because that’s what it is right fucking now. You can’t be a “separatist” if you already have that. You’re just a status quo-ist.

    Fuck me talking to nazis hurts, you’re all unbelievably uneducated.

    echoplex21 , to world in New Covid vaccines are on the way as 'Eris' variant rises

    It’s pretty depressing how we went from eagerly hoping and praying for a vaccine to come to now having to somehow convince people to take it when there’s a surge in cases.

    DarkWasp ,
    @DarkWasp@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree. The uptake on the boosters wasn’t where it needed to be either and without mass immunization it’ll never be as impactful as it should be society wide.

    ChocoboRocket ,

    Honestly, I don’t particularly care unless it’s causing healthcare collapse - at which point people are more likely to vaccinate anyhow.

    I personally vaccinate because apparently I love catching Covid. If the vaccine gives me mild symptoms over a short period, sign me up every winter.

    This thing has gone from contagious, to super contagious, to super mega ultra contagious, to who knows what next.

    People get sick all the time and we’re never going to “beat” Covid unless a perfect, permanent vaccine comes out and everyone else dies.

    This is an unrealistic and unachievable endgame, so who cares if people want to live without Covid vaccines (again, unless it’s causing healthcare collapse).

    totallynotarobot ,

    I personally vaccinate because I love my grandparents and would like to avoid killing them.

    (Not saying your love of having covid is less valid than my love of my grandparents, just offering another perspective for readers. Love is love ❤️)

    ChocoboRocket , (edited )

    I’m not saying that I love catching Covid because I can’t help but ignore public health guidance - it’s because I’ll be the only one to catch it out of a group of people every. Damn. Time.

    I’m also not trying to get people sick, I work entirely remote and really only see friends and family - but won’t go anywhere socially if I’m sick with anything.

    At the end of the day, you could live in an antiviral bubble filled with bleach but some random person could cough or touch something they interacted with and make your grandparents sick.

    All you and your grandparents can really do is take precautions, and enjoy your loved ones.

    Also, I’d say your comment is pretty disingenuous and condescending, it assumes the only way to not kill your grandparents is by getting vaccinated.

    Unless they live in a vault, they’re gonna be exposed to everything life can throw at them. If you’re healthy, but still worried about being asymptotic you can take Covid tests, or if you’re their only caretaker you can wrap yourself up hazmat style, it’s not like everyone working at a hospital died to Covid exposure, or made 100% of everyone they interacted with sick.

    I’m definitely pro vaccine, but it’s not some magic security blanket - It’s a risk mitigation tool at best

    totallynotarobot ,

    Ok you got really defensive there, settle down.

    I was not suggesting you were making light of catching covid. I was acknowledging and joining in your little joke.

    I never claimed this is the only step I take towards not killing my grandparents. Nor that that’s the only benefit I or the people around me get from my being vaccinated. I also wear a seatbelt and don’t drive drunk, but stating that doesn’t mean I’m claiming I am thus immune from car crashes.

    Either you don’t know what the word “disingenuous” means, or you’re just being rude.

    ChocoboRocket ,

    Dude, idk how your original comment reads as joining in on the joke, maybe my reading comprehension sucks but all I’m seeing is condescending and sarcasm

    supercheesecake ,
    @supercheesecake@aussie.zone avatar

    Did we not just go through the single largest pandemic of the century where 7 million people died? Saved by vaccines. And the lessons learnt from that are equal to “live in an antiviral bubble filled with bleach”. Wow.

    We all want to get back to normal life. And are by getting vaccinated and not blowing off the concerns of those who are not quite as lucky as you.

    ChocoboRocket ,

    How did you take any of my comment as anti vaccine or public health guidance??

    You picked up on obvious sarcasm (hyperbole?) and got mega triggered and somehow didn’t glean anything else from my original comment.

    In case you missed it, a single person taking the absolute maximum amount of caution isn’t going to offer 100% protection.

    Get vaccinated, don’t go out if your sick, wash your hands and don’t be a dick. Good for pandemics, and regular life.

    Not that hard, but clearly it’s far too much for some people. Which is why all the precaution in the world (and bleach) won’t beat out something like Covid as these precautions did for less contagious pandemics that were eventually (mostly) wiped out.

    leave_it_blank ,

    Same! See to it that they also get vaccinated and they don’t forget it. You can still transmit!

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  • totallynotarobot ,

    Mmmm freedom fries

    bane_killgrind ,

    There are several countries that were very close to healthcare collapse before COVID. Now for some reason the media won’t cover this issue adequately.

    Carighan ,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    This is an unrealistic and unachievable endgame, so who cares if people want to live without Covid vaccines (again, unless it’s causing healthcare collapse).

    Hrm, I would say one benefit not to be underestimated is that vaccination ought to be entirely normalized. The more and the more readily it is done, the more it normalizes the process.

    barsoap ,

    Just checked the German recommendations and, yep, I’m still at what the STIKO recommends with three shots (2x comirnaty, 1x spikevax). They’re only recommending additional shots for at-risk groups, same as flu shots. And apparently my state leads the statistic with 70% at that level or higher, about 80% with two shots, that all doesn’t count immunisation due to catching it. And we were wearing masks because wat mutt dat mutt.

    In any case the pandemic has been over for quite some time what are you folks talking about?

    clobubba ,

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  • Noughmad ,

    Just more proof that it was never about mRNA.

    tired_n_bored ,

    Am I the only one who started to lose faith in humanity in the covid era?

    “Covid doesn’t exist, it’s crested by the government” “mRNA makes us become reptiles” “Vaccines are poison, I did my own research and I found out I can inject in my veins the safer ammonia”

    I can’t

    theterrasque ,

    At least it made those zombie movies look downright optimistic in comparison

    Zaktor ,

    And pair that with the government saying it’s mostly killing old people and those with health issues then just declaring it over. I wasn’t expecting lockdown forever, but just like keeping it as an ongoing health concern. Instead they’ve been wiping their site of tracking, dropping funding, and abandoning workers to just hope their employer isn’t going to get them sick. COVID being over is good politically and good for business, so COVID is over.

    AlligatorBlizzard ,

    The J&J vaccine also wasn’t mRNA based either. I had this tiny bit of irrational paranoia over the mRNA thing and I really liked the convenience of the one and done shot, so I got the J&J vax. Both of my boosters were Moderna though.

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  • jcit878 ,

    mmmm is that garlic I can smell? someone’s doing a bit of cooking

    blackbrook ,

    Pushover! You should hold out for a free pony with every shot, too.

    ram ,

    With the shit some governments pulled during the first rounds of vaccination you can’t blame people for being skeptical.

    gammasfor ,

    The depressing thing for me is that in my country access to COVID vaccines is now limited - you can only get a booster if you’re part of the “clinically vulnerable” group. And whilst I kinda get it that the logic is the same as the flu vaccine that it’s about reducing hospitalisations, at least with flu we have the option to get the vaccine privately… Which we don’t with COVID.

    Bucket_of_Truth ,

    We should be investing in researching longer lasting vaccines. The current mRNA vaccines only give their full protection for about 4 months. Moderna and Pfizer are making insane money by peddling boosters. Here’s a great piece from OPB about the topic.

    Blulien , to world in Putin says Russia will use cluster bombs in Ukraine if it has to

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  • Spacebar ,
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    Both sides have been using them from the beginning. This is just a combination of Russian amplification and the actual news cycle.

    vimdiesel ,

    incorrect, the Ukrainians have not been using them but they will be using them pretty soon.

    skillissuer , (edited )

    they already do reddit.com/…/ukrainian_unit_immaterium_showing_th… reddit.com/…/cluster_munitions_used_against_russi…

    and also i remember an isolated incident of using cluster shells hitting russian trenches, because it was only few this could have been captured ammunition. there was only 20 submunitions each or so, so this had to be something smaller (like 122mm howitzer or maybe 120mm mortar). this one is 7 months old already reddit.com/…/condensed_video_of_airburst_artiller… (longer version reddit.com/…/russian_troops_absorbing_artillery_f…) however, this doesn’t have to be so, as Ukrainians manufacture their own cluster shells and some could be sourced from euro countries, like Poland or Bulgaria, but more importantly Turkey

    i found another example reddit.com/…/russian_position_targeted_with_clust… this had to happen in spring judging by lack of leaves on trees

    xuxebiko ,

    Yes, that too on civilians. Now Putin is pretending none of that happened.

    raynethackery , to news in Trump calls on supporters to 'guard the vote' in Democratic-run US cities

    So, voter intimidation. They want people to be afraid to even show up.

    Daft_ish ,

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Well, yes.

    doctorcrimson ,

    What a funny thing to do right after a judge announces he does NOT have immunity.

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    What a funny thing to do right after a judge announces he does NOT have immunity.

    Actions speak louder than words. I’ll believe it when he actually has to face consequences.

    TheBroodian , to worldnews in Taiwan reports second large-scale China air force incursion this week

    How can China violate its own airspace? thinky-felix

    Nobody , to news in DeSantis' wife prompts Republican reminder of Iowa nominating process rules

    Behind every dumb cardboard cutout of an alt right candidate is a suffering wife who has no idea what’s going on and just wants to order Thigh food.

    LoraxEleven ,

    And has realized that she left nothing behind… Other than compliance to Her Man…

    Some like it like that, eh?

    DigitalTraveler42 ,

    The life of a pick me girl…

    littlebluespark ,
    @littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

    A variation on the ol’ MRS degree.

    tigeruppercut ,

    I wanna go to Thighland

    bedrooms ,

    To get the thigh massage

    xkforce , to til in TIL - J and J knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder and failed to disclose it to regulators or the public.

    This is why independant testing is needed. Companies have every reason to not want test results like this be public.

    fiat_lux ,

    This 1975 internal memo really sums it up:

    "Our current posture with respect to the sponsorship of talc safety studies has been to initiate studies only as dictated by confrontation. This philosophy, so far, has allowed us to neutralize or hold in check data already generated by investigators who question the safety of talc. The principal advantage for this operating philosophy lies in the fact that we minimize the risk of possible self-generation of scientific data which may be politically or scientifically embarrassing."

    More gross memos in this 2018 J&J Reuters investigation: "Johnson & Johnson knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder"

    chicken ,

    Can’t get much more evil than that

    SnotFlickerman ,
    @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Ah, the good ol “if we never look for it, it isn’t really there!” plan.

    macrocephalic ,

    Americans wouldn’t know about it, but Ribena is a popular (blackcurrant) fruit drink in much of the world, produced by GlaxoSmithKline. For decades they advertised how it was high in vitamin C, until in 2007 some school kids in New Zealand were doing a project to show how it was healthier than cheaper brands, when they found out that it contained no vitamin C.

    thegiddystitcher ,
    @thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee avatar

    Wait, what?!

    macrocephalic ,

    Yeah. Blackcurrants are high in vitamin C, but it turns out that it wasn’t making it to the concentrate they made.

    GONADS125 , (edited )

    Reading about Real Water poisoning people with hydrazine recently threw me for a loop… Source

    After traditional filtration methods:

    Then potassium chloride is added and the water goes through a proprietary “ionizer” apparatus to apply an electrical current to the water. This allegedly created positively charged and negatively charged solutions. Real Water employees would discard the positively charged solution and keep the negatively charged solution.

    That initial batch of negatively charged solution would then go through the “ionizer” apparatus and be separated again. The resulting negatively charged solution would then be treated with potassium hydroxide (a form of lye), potassium bicarbonate (sometimes used in baking powders), and magnesium chloride (a salt used in nutritional supplements and for de-icing roads); this formed an “E2 concentrate” product, which, when diluted, formed their alkaline water product.

    The FDA identified hydrazine in product samples it tested. In the trial, Issam Najm, an environmental engineer who specializes in water chemistry and testing, testified that the hydrazine likely formed in the “ionizer,” which was just titanium tubes electrified with what looked like jumper cables used to charge a car battery. Najm testified that, in the charged water, nitrogen gas naturally found in air could have reacted with water to form hydrazine (N2H4), or, during the electrolysis, ammonia (NH3) was formed first, before reacting with hydroxide to form hydrazine.

    According to Kemp, Real Water never tested for hydrazine, and the meters (made by Hanna Instruments and Milwaukee Instruments) the company used to test alkalinity were allegedly inaccurate, leading Real Water to produce yet more concentrated forms of its product than it thought.

    “These people were outrageous,” Kemp said. There was “no safety testing, no analysis of the product to see what was in it.” He said that the person who developed the water treatment process for Real Water bought the titanium tubes “from some Russian guy in the '80s” and spent four to five months making alkaline waters in his garage, working until he had a formula that didn’t make him vomit or have diarrhea.

    It makes me think of the irradiated water that was marketed for “vigor!” and bogus cures in the 20s. Still too much snake oil and pseudoscience…

    olav ,
    @olav@theweird.space avatar

    @GONADS125 @xkforce

    To give an idea how serious, the Crew Dragons use it in their abort system, and the first thing when it comes back is guys in full suits and respirators checking the outside of the capsule for leaks. Pretty much no amount is "safe"

    phoneymouse , to technology in Netflix may hike prices after success of password-sharing crackdown

    I already cancelled my account. Netflix is too expensive already. Why would I pay more?

    dhtseany ,

    For real, their content isn’t even that compelling of an argument to keep paying for it anymore, especially when we all know that if they did manage to make the first season of a show that ends up being good they’ll just not renew it.

    Sunroc ,

    If they kick me off the account I am on I will finally be free of falling in love with a series just for them to cancel it after 1 amazing season.

    People talk shit about other streamers, but Netflix is by far the worst for this

    kratoz29 ,

    Maybe it is because the few ppl who left that they are willing to keep raising the prices?

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