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NocturnalMorning , to news in Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict

These morons want a king. Can’t even reflect for 5 seconds and think the guilty verdict is because he committed a crime.

Endorkend ,
@Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

Plural.

NocturnalMorning ,

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  • snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    Yes.

    Crime makes it sound like he did one thing, which might be excusable if there was a mistake or confusion. 34 crimes should make it clear that he is just a criminal who does criminal things.

    Endorkend , (edited )
    @Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

    Exactly.

    He's a serial offender and the crimes he is most recently convicted for were so egregious and extensive they had to be partitioned into 34 charges.

    MagicShel , (edited )

    I’ll take the downvotes and agree with you. If it had been a single check instead of a dozen it would be like 3 charges instead of 36. The chargeable counts are sort of arbitrary. It was serval falsified records as part of a single coverup.

    Being pedantic is about making this look maximally bad for trunk to try to cost him votes. The onus is not on you to play that game if you don’t want to.

    But also you could’ve just not taken the bait here and saved us both the downvotes.

    Edit: deleted? You fucking coward. Own your opinions. Just because people don’t like what you have to say doesn’t mean you’re wrong. It’s just fucking downvotes! (intended lightheartedly)

    Agrivar ,

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  • MagicShel ,

    I upvoted. You can call it a garbage opinion. All I did was agree it was unnecessary pedantic. If you think that’s garbage then fine you’re entitled to that opinion. Fuck you, but you’re entitled to your opinion.

    I might have had some mimosas today.

    ours ,

    And in the same breath scream “1776!”.

    edwardbear ,

    They are absolutely delusional. I went to the cesspool that is /r/conservative, hoping, PRAYING for people to respond like normal human beings on reading news like that.

    Nope.

    None of this.

    Complete delusion, with select quotes:

    “He still has my vote”

    “Liars! Liars on the witness stand. This poor man does not deserve this”

    Americans are a different breed altogether.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9c9b447f-b16d-4b00-8b43-588acfdf0cd6.jpeg

    Beetlejuice001 ,

    24/7 propaganda cycle pushed on all the media conservatives consume

    kromem ,

    Redcoats, all of them.

    Olhonestjim ,

    Nah, they’re Confederates. This is the South trying to rise again, as they always said they would. They cannot be allowed to.

    The South must rise anew.

    kromem ,

    The Confederates didn’t want to appoint a king.

    Olhonestjim , (edited )

    They’re not just in the South anymore either. They probably wouldn’t admit they want a king, even though you’re right. But it’s the same movement regardless. They are the children of the Confederacy, attempting to bring it back.

    TWeaK , to news in Elon Musk must face fraud lawsuit for disclosing Twitter stake late

    Musk’s lawyers argued that their client was “one of the busiest people on the planet,” and that any disclosure failure was “inadvertent.”

    So we’re pretty much already at the point of admitting that there was a failure of disclosure. There must be some pretty strong evidence against him.

    nautilus ,

    Well shit, thats all they had to say! Little guy is just so busy doing his silly little jobs that he’s just immune from the law 🥺

    Can’t wait for the judges to be paid off for this one

    nocturne213 ,

    That quote reads like he is the only one at the company. I could see using that argument for my business, as there literally is only me except one day a week my wife watches the shop for 3 hours.

    Does he not have any accountants?

    Dlayknee ,

    Does he not have any accountants?

    Probably fired em. When you have more money than nearly the rest of the world combined, you don’t need to keep track of things like “finances” and “books”.

    FlowVoid ,

    He bought the shares for his private account, not on behalf of his companies. There was no reason for accountants at his companies to get involved, they probably don’t even have access to his private account.

    jaybone ,

    He would have his own accountants for his private accounts…

    halcyoncmdr ,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    Elon surely has a personal accountant that handles private transactions. He is not logging into these websites on his own to make large purchases. Someone else knew about it, and likely that there should be a disclosure for a large purchase like that.

    agitatedpotato ,

    I’d pull up his twitter history from the days in question and I bet we can calculate hours of time he found to be able to tweet

    themoonisacheese ,
    @themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

    i mean it wouldn’t be too hard to prove anyway. if he had prepared beforehand and bought the shares through shell companies it would have been harder to prove but if he just bought them outright it’s just " did you have the share? did you disclose them?" and now his lawyers hate him (who am i kidding they already hated him)

    akilou ,

    Your honor, I’m just too busy to be held accountable for my actions or inaction.

    Red_October ,

    If it gets to trial at all, at least it’ll be a short one. Seems now the only issue being questioned is whether the wealthy really can just flat out ignore the law, or if they have to at least pretend to obey it.

    FlowVoid , (edited )

    This is a civil lawsuit. The only question is how much money he owes the plaintiffs.

    Zetta ,

    I’m not familiar with the law, but it seems like they have to prove musk intended to defraud them to win, no? So “I forgot” might be enough for musk to escape this, if the other party can’t come up with other evidence his intent was to defraud.

    I don’t know what I’m talking about so this could be completely wrong.

    quindraco ,

    Yes, many laws require a proof of criminal intent, although the nuances of that can be tricky.

    Classic example: a convicted felon named Bob is charged with possessing a firearm while a felon. You are the prosecutor. You must prove the following to establish intent:

    1. Bob knows he is a felon (typically trivial).
    2. Bob knows he possessed the object at issue.

    Meanwhile, you don’t need to prove these:

    1. Bob knows felons can’t possess firearms.
    2. Bob knows the object at issue is a firearm.

    Because US law defines many things as “firearms” which zero people would agree count as firearms in common parlance, number 4 is a very common reason to go to jail. For example, spent shell casings count as firearms, legally, so you can go to prison for possessing a lamp incorporating a spent shell casing into the design for aesthetic purposes.

    FlowVoid ,

    This isn’t a criminal trial, so intent doesn’t matter so much. The purpose of the trial will be to determine whether the plaintiffs lost money, and if so how much he owes them.

    dangblingus ,

    Failure to disclose is objective fact. The circumstances of which will either be aggravating or mitigating to whatever fine is tossed his way.

    I sincerely doubt someone like Musk, someone who’s entire life revolves around the acquisition of wealth and the utilization of investment funds, can use “I was too busy and forgot to perform regulatory obligations!” defense.

    FlowVoid ,

    This isn’t really about a fine. Musk is being sued by other another company. They claim that Musk saved $200m on his Twitter purchase by failing to disclose in time. In other words he bought some shares that would have cost him more if he had disclosed.

    Of course his savings was someone else’s loss of potential profit, and they are suing Musk to get that profit back.

    wildginger ,

    I get that Im not a lawyer, but how is that a real defense? Surely thats worse than admitting fault and trying for a deal, right?

    joemo ,

    I’m sorry officer, I didn’t know I couldn’t do that.

    FlyingSquid , to world in Putin breaks silence on Wagner boss Prigozhin’s death
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Russian President Vladimir Putin sent his condolences to the family of Yevgeny Prigozhin

    “I’m very sorry I shot his plane down to assassinate him. I probably wouldn’t do it again. Maybe.”

    Neato ,
    @Neato@kbin.social avatar

    But did Putin send them a bill for the surface to air missile?

    remotelove ,
    @remotelove@lemmy.ca avatar

    It was actually a trade. Two missiles for Prigozhin’s share in African mining operations. (Those missiles are expensive, btw.)

    grabyourmotherskeys ,

    Plus you save on reglazing one or more windows.

    Jumper775 ,

    Well it would be hard to assassinate him twice

    Fuckass , to worldnews in Taiwan reports second large-scale China air force incursion this week
    Corkyskog ,

    You realize the identification zone is not the same as airspace right?

    zephyreks ,

    “Ten Chinese air force aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defence zone on Wednesday”

    The article says ADIZ, not airspace.

    Sanctus , to world in UN experts say ceasefire needed as Palestinians at 'grave risk of genocide'
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    At risk? They are actively experiencing a genocide

    fishos ,
    @fishos@lemmy.world avatar

    I think they mean “at risk of completing full genocide”, sadly enough.

    MentalEdge ,
    @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Indeed.

    “it’s not technically a genocide, if it’s still in progress”

    The world really hasn’t paid attention to this particular conflict, until now.

    Annoyed_Crabby ,

    Ohh i have someone used that on me. Funny stuff.

    Hello_there ,

    Gotta put the ultra orthodox settlers somewhere. Netanyahu thinks it's free land

    SuddenDownpour ,

    UN protocols demands being careful when using certain terms when referring to a given event before a proper resolution or investigation has been carried out. If you follow the news, you will notice that they warn about obviously blatant war crimes as “might be a war crime”. What’s noticeable isn’t that they’re following their own protocols, but that they’re bringing the war crimes to everyone’s attention.

    DoctorWhookah , to news in Two billionaire Harris donors hope she will fire FTC Chair Lina Khan

    If big business liked her she wouldn’t be doing her job. I saw her on Jon Stewart and she’s smart AF! I kinda gotta low key thing for her now. Should I tell my SO?

    dohpaz42 ,
    @dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes. Tell your SO. It’s a celebrity crush. Many people in relationships have them. Maybe you two can even role play and get spicy. Good luck!

    MagicShel ,

    Oh, baby! I’m almost there. Say it again. Say, “too big to fail is too big to exist,” again!

    dohpaz42 ,
    @dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

    Not quite what I was thinking, but if that works for you, who am I to judge? 🤓

    mecfs ,

    Get your coconuts ready gentlemen

    magnetosphere , to news in Pfizer is sued by Texas over COVID vaccine claims
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    I can’t believe I’m going to bat for Pfizer, but apparently I hate deliberate, selective ignorance even more than greed. Oh well.

    Paxton said the claim was based on only two months of clinical trial data…

    It was a GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS, you fucking morons. Millions of people died. Have you already forgotten how serious and urgent the situation was? Speedy availability of a vaccine was more important than lengthy, time-consuming tests.

    Ask your god-king Trump. He’s the one who threw bushels of money at pharmaceutical companies and ordered them to solve the problem quickly.

    Drusas ,

    They didn't forget; they never cared to begin with.

    magnetosphere ,
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    You’re probably right. Good catch.

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    Paxton’s claim is also a lie. We didn’t just invent vaccines a few years ago. They’ve been around for two or three generations now.

    Not like they were working from scratch as far as efficacy. All the ingredients are well known. The only thing new was the the particular mRNA, that’s like saying steaks need two years of clinic trials because it comes from a different family of cows, has slightly different DNA, like saying Coke needs two years of trials when they make a new flavor.

    Then after you take it, we can do the blood test after the injection and see the antibodies. What more is there to know?

    What’s the mechanism that they are claiming the vaccine can be harmful? Why is this vaccine unique as compared to any other, proven safe for decades vaccine?

    magnetosphere ,
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    I’m merely hoping for a competent judge who accepts logic and the scientific method. Not even a great judge, just a basically sane and reasonable one.

    I remember when I used to take that for granted. I’m having an “ignorance is bliss” moment.

    Chetzemoka ,

    It’s Texas. Best they can do is the 5th Circuit.

    somethingsnappy ,

    Whole cell/virus vaccines have been around forever. Grog got some dirt on his hands while hunting ibex? Congrats, that’s a vaccine!

    Bytemeister ,

    If half the country wasn’t a bunch of anti-science religious dipshits, mRNA vaccines would be recognized as the greatest achievement of my lifetime.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Don’t feel bad for going to bat for them. I have done some work for them. Pharm companies are True Neutral alignment. Condemn the things they do wrong, praise the things they do right.

    qooqie , to technology in X may lose up to $75 mln by year-end on advertiser exodus - NYT

    That’s not as much as I would’ve hoped

    SkyezOpen ,

    75 bucks is the minimum though. It could be like… 37 billion.

    mihies ,

    X is already worth less than half of buying price. And this is income loss, not net worth. Which will eventually lead to the later or if not to bankruptcy.

    stifle867 ,

    I don’t think Twitter ever even had ad revenue that high right?

    SkyezOpen ,

    5 trillion then.

    EdibleFriend ,
    @EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

    Don’t forget how recently he really started driving away the advertisers and how close we are to the end of the year. I see it as a very hopeful start.

    Viking_Hippie , (edited )

    Don’t worry, the company is now worth less than half of what he paid for it and his Tesla stocks are hemorrhaging value too 🙂

    ramble81 ,

    $75m in 5 weeks. That’s a run rate of $780m per year. That is not a small chunk of revenue.

    breadsmasher , to technology in X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's content orders
    @breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

    “Brazil sees massive drop in alt right hate speech”

    xmunk , to news in Exclusive: Harris leads Trump 44% to 42% in US presidential race, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

    That is an uncomfortably close margin but it’s good to see she’s leading now at least.

    AbidanYre ,

    It’s only been like one day.

    Empricorn ,

    Yeah, and it’s great to see Trump’s standing reversed in that one day!

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Better 2-pts up with Harris than 3-pts down with Biden. I like the direction those polls are swinging, even if I wouldn’t put money on an outcome.

    cheers_queers ,

    it’s honestly blowing my mind.

    cabron_offsets ,

    Bruh, momentum.

    rayyy ,

    Wait until the convention - momentum and thunder.

    paddirn ,

    Other polls I had seen just yesterday (likely collected before Biden dropping out was a reality) still had Trump with a 1% or more lead over Harris, so they’re really all over the place and I wouldn’t trust them for much, even up to and including election day. I’m not breathing a sigh of relief until victory is declared, and even then, I wouldn’t be so sure.

    Irremarkable ,
    @Irremarkable@fedia.io avatar

    Agreed, but I will say that I feel at least a bit less panicked.

    Diplomjodler3 ,

    This is a swing and she’s only beginning to build momentum. Let’s hope things keep moving in the right direction.

    rambling_lunatic ,

    According to the article it’s within the margin of error, so Trump may have more votes.

    FlyingSquid , to news in Fukushima wastewater released into the ocean, China bans all Japanese seafood
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sure. Because Chinese food regulations are notoriously tight and the populace is so protected from contaminated foods.

    I’m guessing this has more to do with fishing rights in the South China Sea and this is just convenient for them.

    SupraMario ,

    Wasn’t that virus issue that we just had and continued to have caused from wet markets over there?..or no that was the Japanese who caused it right?

    /S if no one got the joke

    Kalkaline ,
    @Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

    theconversation.com/was-coronavirus-really-in-eur… I don’t think we’ll ever be 100% certain where COVID got started.

    SupraMario ,

    Unfortunately that shows that it’s probably a bad sample, the paper calls it out at the end. The curious issue here is they found it in Jan 2020 but them March of 2019…but nothing in between. So the odds of the march sample being a false positive are pretty high.

    The medical community is pretty well positive it originally came from the Wuhan lab, that was found to be selling their used animals on the wet market, I don’t think I’ve seen anything for a while now say different. Unless it’s a Chinese source which doesn’t want to take responsibility at all.

    stilgar ,
    @stilgar@infosec.pub avatar

    Covid was also found in blood samples in Norway from 2019 vg.no/…/coronaviruset-kan-ha-vaert-i-norge-allere…

    SupraMario ,

    Yeah but that’s Dec of 2019, it was pretty well known at that time that it had already left Wuhan. It’s why a lot of people who were following the spread figured the walling off of Wuhan like china tried was fruitless. 80mil+ people, someone has traveled at that point in time.

    thedevisinthedetails , to news in Mathematics, reading skills in unprecedented decline in teenagers

    Wow whole bunch of old man takes about computers and not a single one about public schools being systematically defunded, dismantled, and squeezed in every way possible.

    Hyperreality ,

    I worked as a teacher for a while until quite recently.

    99% of public discourse on education, is based on the (traumatic or positive) individual experiences of people who went to school years if not decades ago, not people who actually know much about what they're talking about.

    otp ,

    But what about the LGBT agenda that’s replacing math and reading education where children learn how to vote Democrat instead of learning how to read or multiply? /S

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Sounds about right. I really do make an effort but when I am helping my kids with the New Math I am mentally screaming “why did they change this!?”. I do like the sightword system however. So yeah if I am getting a bit annoyed there are probably parents who are getting less annoyed and other parents getting very annoyed. Bell Curve.

    IamSparticles ,

    when I am helping my kids with the New Math I am mentally screaming “why did they change this!?”.

    I’m not sure exactly what you mean, but if you’re anything like many of the parents I’ve heard complain about modern math curriculums, you were probably taught that there’s a correct way to do every math problem and if you aren’t doing it that way then you’re doing it wrong. What modern curriculums do is teach children that there are multiple ways to get to the correct answer, so they can choose the methodology that is easiest for them to understand. Because not everyone’s brain works in the same way, and the old style of teaching sets up barriers for some students.

    I got poor math grades when I was a teen because I didn’t always do the problems the way the teacher wanted us to do them, even though I got the right answers. I had come up with my own process. I scored almost perfect on the math SAT and ended up in computer science. Now, when my kids ask for help with their math homework, I see that they’re learning a bunch of different ways to do the problems. Not all of them are intuitive to me, but some of them are basically what I figured out on my own. I think it’s great.

    interceder270 ,

    “why did they change this!?”

    It’s funny, as a child learning ‘old math’, I always thought “is this the only way to do it? Why are we doing it this way?”

    Glad people are finding alternatives instead of just getting tunnel-visioned into doing what we’ve always done.

    tigeruppercut , (edited )

    I hope the sight word system isn’t another one of those programs to get phonics out of schools, because the last name something like that turned up under a different name it didn’t work out so well.

    tunein.com/podcasts/p2141690/

    interceder270 ,

    In what world do you think children have fewer resources at their disposal now than they did decades ago?

    vonbaronhans ,

    Because teachers are picking up the slack at the expense of their own financial and mental health.

    inclementimmigrant ,

    Sure but that’s definitely not the only reason.

    www.nytimes.com/…/reading-school-phonics.html

    Sparkega , to news in New Covid vaccines are on the way as 'Eris' variant rises

    I’m 2+1 and just tested positive for COVID yesterday. I had COVID previously in 2021 as well. Symptoms are mild with runny nose, headache, fatigue, and a light cough.

    Catching it again has me comparing the environment then and now and made the COVID apathy more apparent. Most co-worker responses have been either “That’s still a thing?” to “Throw a mask on and come back into the office.” I’ve elected to isolate to not be responsible for more spread. The frustrating thing is looking for guidance and most articles are dated in 2022. The pharmacy had fewer stock of masks and COVID tests were in the back now.

    I’m all for continuing to receive regular vaccinations like I do for the flu. If anything to continue to keep the symptoms mild.

    charliespider ,

    Well I appreciate your sanity

    TheSambassador ,

    Many of the free COVID tests are all expired now. They issued an extension but finding an at-home test has been really difficult. I went to 3 different pharmacies/grocery stores before I was able to find a test.

    Kage520 ,

    Make sure you take time to rest. I had a mild case last December and went back to work in the like 5 days they say. I ended up with long covid and I’m still not all the way better. Not resting is a big risk factor for long covid.

    Sparkega ,

    Thanks, appreciate your concern. I’m trying to rest, but unfortunately soundly sleeping has been challenging. My nose is congested but still dripping if that makes sense. My mouth dries out and I’m waking up constantly. I’ll try to get some reprieve beyond the 5 days.

    Damage , to technology in Music labels sue Internet Archive over digitized record collection

    If you attack the internet archive you clearly are scum

    Comment105 ,

    It is in our democratic interest to vote against copyright law.

    So why do we choose to keep copyright law, at least in its current iteration?

    Are we really not interested in either abolishing or changing it? Is your brother, mother, uncle, grandfather, neighbor and colleague in favor of current copyright law?

    linearchaos ,

    We're not a democracy. the US government is 8 Million companies in a trenchcoat.

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Remove the million.

    ipkpjersi ,

    So why do we choose to keep copyright law, at least in its current iteration?

    Are we really not interested in either abolishing or changing it? Is your brother, mother, uncle, grandfather, neighbor and colleague in favor of current copyright law?

    They have less money to bribe the government with than large corporations do.

    nolannice , to technology in Music labels sue Internet Archive over digitized record collection
    @nolannice@lemmy.world avatar

    I feel like the Internet Archive is current day’s library of Alexandria and it’s going to get burned down for nothing.

    Copyright in the US is an absolute joke.

    x4740N ,
    @x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

    Internet archive should move to somewhere like Switzerland

    AceFuzzLord ,

    These companies will just push their blood money to there then. It’ll just turn into the whole PirateBay incident where lobbying got the original site shut down.

    Best way to stop this would be to get some heads rolling. Otherwise there will be nothing we can do.

    coheedcollapse ,

    Yep. If the Internet Archive goes down, piracy is going to be the last bastion of preservation for the masses. It’s incredibly fucked up. The whole copyright system is incredibly fucked up.

    I suspect after the book loss, copyright lawyers for huge media industries all over the place are drooling over potential earnings.

    Makes me feel angry and helpless, honestly. The people in that industry know damn well a rip of an old record isn’t the same as a sanitized digital file, but they don’t care about preserving shit as much as squeezing a few extra bucks from the super fans and history buffs who may enjoy those files.

    Spambox , (edited )

    The copyright lobby is crazy powerful and pretty scary.

    The whole Kim dotcom raid comes to mind. At the request them, the USA strong armed authorities to storm the guys mansion in new Zealand using helicopters and raid teams, punching and kicking him while he was on the floor, holding him for a month without a bail hearing, seized his assets and trying to extradite him because people were using his storage platform to store copyrighted material - which wasn’t even against new Zealand laws at the time.

    He later brought a legal suit against them for it and it was settled under wraps and sealed

    torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-wins-settlement-milit…

    Rights holders are also why your streaming platform prices keep getting more expensive because they just can’t control their greed. People keep complaining Netflix pricing keeps going higher for example but a big part of it is because they are being squeezed for more and more money by rights holders to have their content in their catalog

    infyrin ,
    @infyrin@lemmy.world avatar

    I remember following that whole story on TorrentFreak.

    Like, what a fucking exaggeration of authority force over what? Because a motherfucking music exec couldn’t buy another yacht? Lost a few “millions” from lack of record sales because their dinosaur model of profiting off of music isn’t working anymore? Like fucking wah.

    They treated Kim Dotcom more like a terrorist than Osama Bin Laden in comparison.

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