They’re trying to bundle their bad pr while it seems like it can’t get any worse. They’re under fire from John and Hank Green and their fans for extending a patent in a way that is estimated to kill 6 million people.
We desperately, above all other issues, need to resolve the fact that big companies can win in court simply by paying until the other guy can't afford to keep dealing with the legal system.
We desperately, above all other issues, need to resolve the fact that big companies can win in court simply by paying
In the Soviet Union, capital punishment was carried out by various methods, including firing squads, hanging, and later, the use of a single gunshot to the back of the head. These methods were employed for different periods throughout the Soviet Union’s history, depending on the prevailing laws and policies.
I'll take our current system over the Soviet one every day of the week. Not starving and not living under an evil dictatorship beats an unfair court system.
The inefficiencies created by the Soviet system will lead to yet another round of famine and other problems that will make those stats in your infographic look cute.
Go try your perfect world economic system propaganda on someone else who is dumb enough to buy it.
And famine is just the start. If you think any government is competent enough to handle the orchestration of a system is large and complicated as a modern economy you are hilariously mistaken.
I wouldn't even know where to start. Basically every single item in your house runs through some sort of supply chain that would get fucked up if we tried to manage them all through some central planned economy.
During collectivization, the peasantry was required to relinquish their farm animals to government authorities. Many chose to slaughter their livestock rather than give them up to collective farms. In the first two months of 1930, kulaks killed millions of cattle, horses, pigs, sheep, and goats, with the meat and hides being consumed and bartered. In 1934, the 17th Congress of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) reported that 26.6 million head of cattle and 63.4 million sheep had been lost.[68] In response to the widespread slaughter, the Sovnarkom issued decrees to prosecute “the malicious slaughtering of livestock” (Russian: хищнический убой скота).[69]
Resistance
Thousands of Kazakhs violently resisted the collectivization campaign with weapons left over by the white army with 8 rebellions occurring in 1930 alone. [97] In the Mangyshlak Peninsula 15,000 rebels resisted between 1929 and 1931.
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Some kulaks responded by carrying out acts of sabotage such as killing livestock and destroying crops intended for consumption by factory workers
They fought against collectivization thinking something would happen. They unleashed a famine upon themselves.
EDIT: This part is so ridiculous I need to repeat it:
reported that 26.6 million head of cattle and 63.4 million sheep had been lost.
So much milk lost, could have fed so many people, you can bet there were millions of chickens too, millions of eggs that were never laid, kill the cattle, kill the natural cycle of reproduction, tonnes and tonnes of meat that were never born.
Some reactionaries BURNED FARMS to oppose communism, no wonder they starved.
The cattle part could could cause shortages, but at the end of the day when you don't have cattle you can still feed people perfectly fine.
You won't get to eat nearly as much meat, but you can still eat.
I'm mainly referring to the fact that you're trying to blame the rebellion from the evil rich people for the cause of the famine instead of the very real economic misincentices created by the Soviet Union
Mao’s famine was caused by killing birds, because he did not listen to science. We must always listen to science. That thing could’ve happened if China were a Christian Theocracy. There have been countless famines in history but you only care about communist ones.
Mao’s famine was caused by killing birds, because he did not listen to science.
You're missing about 10 other bad decisions in there, and you'll never guess what those 10 decisions were related to.
Millions of… millions of cattle killed.
Again. If we killed all the animals right now in every country in the world we would have....
More food.
Animals eat food. They provide less than they eat, so if you took all the food that would have gone towards cattle and instead put them towards humans, you'd see people eating more, not less.
I'm not totally going to say that that wasn't a factor, but at the end of the day the famine in the Soviet Union still had a root cause.
Dinosaurs existed in the past. Their policies resulted in no shelter from asteroids. Therefore we need all available effort to go towards asteroid protection now. Forget that hunger and famine only exists in the now because we let it to justify capitalism. We need to worry about what happened in the past.
Above is obviously sarcasm
Using your own rhetoric I could argue that the United States had famines in the past so therefore it will have them again.
Dinosaurs existed in the past. Their policies resulted in no shelter from asteroids.
Wat.
Using your own rhetoric I could argue that the United States had famines in the past so therefore it will have them again.
Hah.
You could, if there was a history of famines in America's past. The closest we really got was the dust bowl, and that was never really a famine.
Of course, the possibility is always open with global warming becoming a thing that we could experience some form of famine in the future. However, when it happens it's almost certainly going to be because of global warming cannot because of asinine communist economic decision making that dis encourages people from producing any sort of surplus by imposing state quotas on them.
Forget that hunger and famine only exists in the now because we let it to justify capitalism
In the world? Hunger and famine largely exists because people live in regions with really corrupt governments and no way to produce food locally, it's geopolitical more than economic and there really is no fixing it.
In the United States?
You guys have to use a chart that shows statistics on food insecurity instead of actual lack of access to food because lots of food programs exist and lots of people actually are able to get meals even when they are poor. Actual starvation is very rare in the United States, thanks to things like the snap programs.
The United States has problems to fix, but we seriously have a bigger epidemic of obesity among the poor than starvation.
It’s really not hard to understand you’re not as prophetic as you think you are.
However, when it happens it’s almost certainly going to be because of global warming cannot because of asinine communist economic decision making that dis encourages people from producing any sort of surplus by imposing state quotas on them.
Gee I wonder what economic system is causing global warming.
In the world? Hunger and famine largely exists because people live in regions with really corrupt governments and no way to produce food locally, it’s geopolitical more than economic and there really is no fixing it.
The context was in the US. Why shift the goal post to where you can blame something other than the American oligarchy.
You guys have to use a chart that shows statistics on food insecurity instead of actual lack of access to food because lots of food programs exist and lots of people actually are able to get meals even when they are poor. Actual starvation is very rare in the United States, thanks to things like the snap programs.
Who is “you guys” you even say yourself that obesity is a problem and obesity is a result of food deserts and terrible food programs in the US that stem from subsidized corn.
You’re either trolling or unwilling to actually communicate on these topics at this point.
Gee I wonder what economic system is causing global warming.
Oh yes, the Soviet Union, wonderful bastion of green technology and environment.
You blame capitalism for shit that would be happening and would be even worse under other systems. The status quo is Not the fault of capitalism and you can't simply blame the status quo on capitalism without showing that some new system would actually perform better.
Historically, non-capitalist systems are less efficient and pollute more.
Why shift the goal post
Yes, was shifting goalpost by responding to the two possible interpretations of your comment.
you even say yourself that obesity is a problem and obesity is a result of food deserts and terrible food programs in the US that stem from subsidized corn.
Yes.
This isn't.... What do you think you're making a point here for? We should end subsidies on corn in the United States and allow the market to make that decision of what to produce.
That would be more capitalism.
You’re either trolling or unwilling to actually communicate on these topics at this point.
And you're engaging in the age old internet tradition of accusing everyone who disagrees with you as a troll.
What does that have to do with the conversation being had here?
Also, not that any of this is relevant to the actual topic at hand, but that’s different from the United States… How?
Just this year Idaho approved the firing squad as a means of execution. It joined 4 other states.
We now use the lethal injection, but research is showing that it isn’t painless, it just looks like it is. We used the electric chair for decades, and hanging before that.
So wait, J&J have already put aside 9 billion dollars for potential liability for the talc baby powder cancer claims and have stopped selling talc baby powder in North America, but yet they are suing researchers who made the issue known and constantly parroting that they aren’t admitting any wrongdoing. Nice.
JJ. But they also released some very specific details such as the name of people exposed and proof of exposure from other sources than talcum powder that was ignored. JJ would be quite liable if they even get a single detail intentionally wrong. I would tend to believe they released accurate details.
Yeh, sure. Let’s trust the corporation that is discontinuing the sale of talc based baby powder world wide, and is wanting to settle for $9 billion.
Either JNJ are actually doing the right thing here… or they are cutting losses, protecting themselves, looking after shareholders, whatever.
Maybe it’s cheaper than trying to recover from such a PR disaster.
Maybe turns out that cornstarch is cheaper/easier for baby powder, and $9b gets rid of a problem, solves marketing issues of cornstarch, and has long-term savings.
Maybe I’m wrong and paranoid.
But I don’t trust JNJ
To put that in perspective for folks, if money was seconds, 9000 seconds is ~2.5 hours , 9 million seconds is ~104 days, 9 billion seconds is ~285 years.
This is not the only shitty thing J&J has done, not by a longshot.
All you need to know is how they pushed opioids on a generation of young people for nearly a decade without repercussions. How can you expect an entity like that to ever tell the truth against their own self interests?
From a purely technical perspective I’m a bit confused how this clown-car has kept going for so long, after all the slash-and-burn restructuring that’s happened. Hopefully there’s going to be some engineers telling the story when Musk manages to fubar it after all.
But that included not paying for servers, firing people and finding out later that they had irreplaceable knowledge, demanding constant crunch time from the poor sods that are left and randomly turning off “unnecessary” services.
I’d be really surprised if that made the overall state better.
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