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ooli , to lemmyshitpost in Germans: what genocide?

Being on the wrong side of history on the same topic 75 year apart

MissJinx ,
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WillySpreadum , to linuxmemes in Money has changed microsoft
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Amphobet , to memes in Lemmy about to implode.
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Communists shaking and crying right now.

Capitalism is a very common/popular tag for games on Steam. Of course, it’s a fantasy version of capitalism where you can actually get ahead.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

The only good capitalism sims are GameDevTycoon, which makes you complicit in the enshittification while playing a plagiarized game, and Roller Coaster Tycoon, which accurately depicts the tycoon mindset.

Ulvain ,

0.01$ super salty fries, 80% ice 1500% overpriced drinks FTW

InputZero ,

In the first game I remember charging about $5.00 or something for the bathroom. Easiest fake money I’ve ever made to fuel the construction of my psychopathic murder rides.

Omega_Haxors ,

RCT does a really good job emulating the massive desire to drown your guests that all tycoons eventually get.

reverendsteveii ,

These games are tagged capitalism, but they use this wild version of capitalism where the person doing the work gets to keep the value their work creates. I think there’s a name for that…

Anamnesis ,

IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW?!?!

fosforus ,

Openttd, the communist utopia, where you personally lay out the tracks and drive the trains.

CileTheSane ,
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Usually in these games I tell workers to do the work, I’m just the guy giving orders.

agitatedpotato ,

Being fair, capitalism works great in games. The system necessarily determines a winner, there are no externalities inside of a video game, and the people whose labor you’re profiting from are NPCs.

Kushia ,
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Just now I realized I’m the NPC in some rich asshole capitalists life.

CileTheSane ,
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👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

BlanK0 ,

Wake up sheeple 🐑

cecinestpasunbot ,

This is true for board games as well. The classic example being Monopoly.

fosforus , (edited )

I think it works pretty well in real life too. Nevertheless, I’d be thrilled to see an emergent economic simulation game that was serious enough that you could imagine it reflecting reality. That you could test out real economic politics and see how they work out.

I don’t think there’s such a thing. And also, economics is hella boring so it could be that an accurate game like this would also necessary be a bit boring.

OurToothbrush ,

I think it works pretty well in real life too.

Privileged, child, or petite bourgeois aspirations?

fosforus , (edited )

Asshole, stupid or communist? Oh wait, that was redundant.

OurToothbrush ,

Yeah, to be a communist you have to be stupid enough to read books on economics.

fosforus , (edited )

Reading an actual book on economics makes it impossible for a benevolent individual to be a communist, at least without a physically painful amount of cognitive dissonance.

Do you feel angry or depressed often? It’s cognitive dissonance. ;)

OurToothbrush ,

Reading an actual book on economics makes it impossible for a benevolent individual to be a communist, at least without a physically painful amount of cognitive dissonance.

Oh, you sound really informed on this. What books of marxist economics have you read to come to this conclusion? What theory of subjective value based economics books?

I mean, I’ve just spent over a decade studying various schools of economics, maybe you have much more insight than me on this topic.

fosforus ,

I’ve just spent over a decade studying various schools of economics

Of course you have, dear.

OurToothbrush ,

You’re literally a self described libertarian lmao

Anyway, stop dodging the question. What economic writings have you read from Marx that you’re basing your opinion of Marxist economics on? What problems did you have with them?

fosforus , (edited )

You’re literally a self described libertarian lmao

Yes, well, some people are braver than others, and are thus able to declare what they believe in. What do you believe in?

Anyway, stop dodging the question. What economic writings have you read from Marx that you’re basing your opinion of Marx on? What problems did you have with them?

There’s a bit of a “oh, you like economics? Describe all economic theories then.” vibe here but I guess I started it. Sorry about that.

I don’t know why you would bring Marx into this. He was a philosophist, not an economist or a politician. As a philosophist, he was correct in many of his observations, the problem comes from trying to actually implement in the real world some of the things he said.

Historical materialism & class struggle for instance. He describes the change from feodalism to capitalism as it happened but then goes deep into conjecture land in fantasizing the future change to socialism and communism. When this was violently experimented with in 1900s, it didn’t go at all as he described. The class struggle is not inevitable at all, and only happens with a combination of bad leadership and agitation (check lemmygrad.ml for practical modern examples of latter). His idea of classless society was basically speculative science fiction, and still is.

I disagree with many points of his critique of capitalism. For instance, the value of a product or service is not derived from the labor put to it, but the value of the product or service to whoever is buying it. Thus surplus is a valid concept.

I disagree that wealth concentration is a fundamental problem. In the grand scale, more individual wealth leads to more happiness, so the important thing is that everyone’s wealth increases. If my neighbor gets 100x richer in real wealth in the time I get 2x richer, I will still be 2x richer. It only becomes a problem if those figures are 100x and 1x or worse, or if he uses his 100x wealth to buy an army to take my stuff, and my claim is that this is not happening in most of the capitalist world.

OurToothbrush ,

Yes, well, some people are braver than others, and are thus able to declare what they believe in. What do you believe in?

Literally a communist, something that could actually get me targeted by the state instead of being a “no step on snek” cosplayer.

I don’t know why you would bring Marx into this. He was a philosophist, not an economist or a politician

His magnum opus is literally an economic analysis of how capitalism functions lmao

Historical materialism & class struggle for instance. He describes the change from feodalism to capitalism as it happened but then goes deep into conjecture land in fantasizing the future change to socialism and communism. When this was violently experimented with in 1900s, it didn’t go at all as he described. The class struggle is not inevitable at all, and only happens with a combination of bad leadership and agitation (check lemmygrad.ml for practical modern examples of latter). His idea of classless society was basically speculative science fiction, and still is.

Okay, so you haven’t read his work and you buy into the idea that “all socialist projects have failed” despite all their successes, and the continued survival of many projects.

I disagree with many points of his critique of capitalism. For instance, the value of a product or service is not derived from the labor put to it, but the value of the product or service to whoever is buying it. Thus surplus is a valid concept.

So you favor a more shallow understanding of where value emerges from, and you haven’t read what Marx has actually said about subjective value. What makes the product valuable to whoever is buying jt? Subjective value wants you to believe it is just arbitrary.

I disagree that wealth concentration is a fundamental problem. In the grand scale, more individual wealth leads to more individual happiness, so the important thing is that everyone’s wealth increases. If my neighbor gets 100x richer in real wealth in the time I get 2x richer, I will still be 2x richer. It only becomes a problem if those figures are 100x and 1x or worse, or if he uses his 100x wealth to buy an army to take my stuff, and my claim is that this is not happening in most of the capitalist world.

Okay, so have you read anything about surplus labor value theory? Anything about alienation under capitalism?

Also the notion that were all getting richer at different rates needs evidence.

fosforus , (edited )

Well. Ok.

I probably cannot help you really, but I’ll throw a suggestion. You should start your study of economics here: www.amazon.com/…/0465060730

Sadly, you will scoff at and ignore my advice right now, but perhaps you’ll remember this some day and are able to integrate the knowledge better after some life experience. Good luck and remember: you don’t have to be a communist. You can choose to be something much more. It’s never too late to change, especially when you’re young.

OurToothbrush ,

Why would I read Sowell when I already know about neoliberalism and what it did literally everywhere it was tried?

Sadly, you will scoff at and ignore my advice right now, but perhaps you’ll remember this some day and are able to integrate the knowledge better after some life experience. Good luck and remember: you don’t have to be a communist. You can choose to be something much more. It’s never too late to change.

Breaking news: Pigeon shits on chess board, flies off.

Cowbee ,
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Recommending Sowell unironically for economics is like recommending L. Ron Hubbard for physics. Sowell is a crank and supports Imperialism and Colonialism, as in his own admitted views believes they enrich the victims. Not only that, but he makes incredibly basic, fundamental mistakes whenever he has to talk about Marxism, proving himself uneducated on the matter and unqualified to talk about it.

fosforus ,

People are recommending Marx as well for economics over here, and while you might disagree with Sowell, at least he didn’t write science fiction. Unlike Marx did (e.g. classless society = speculative scifi). Many other leftist economists are pretty much in fantasy land in my opinion as well.

Cowbee ,
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Sowell is science-fiction. He’s a Chicago school crank that either intentionally misunderstanding basic economic concepts and basic Marxism in order to make money from clueless conservatives, or is unintentionally misunderstanding the absolute basics of economics and Marxism because he’s a Chicago school crank. The reason I think it’s fairly likely he’s misleading everyone and laughing to the bank is because he’s made horribly indefensible positions such as being pro-Imperialism and Pro-colonialism, which leads me to believe it’s fairly likely he’s a grifter.

Marx is absolutely a better recommendation, his analysis of Capitalism is sound and he spent his life defending it and improving it. Advocating for a future Classless society doesn’t make it sci-fi, it’s just advocacy. That’s like calling Unionization efforts sci-fi, that’s an utterly embarrassing position to hold. Just because you can’t actually counter Marx doesn’t mean you have to recommend Sowell, if you’re going to troll then do better.

Ep1cFac3pa1m , to aboringdystopia in The only thing that matters
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We only have 2 major political parties, and one of them has decided science and learning are evil…and like half the country votes for them. We’re completely fucked.

Land_Strider ,

Last 20 years’ Turkey: First time?

PhlubbaDubba ,

I mean tbf Erdogan mostly lost his shit after it became obvious that being Turkey but not laicite doesn’t magically make the cypress question go away during accession negotiations.

That one ultimately bit the Cypress Turks in the but though, now they’re starting to worry about Turkey annexing them because of Erdogan.

takeda ,

Correction: half of the voters vote for them. If all the apathetic people started to vote, Republicans would be forced to adapt or would never win any election anymore.

Ep1cFac3pa1m , (edited )
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That’s exactly why Republicans fight against early voting, Mail voting, absentee voting, etc. If you make it too easy to vote, the single mom working 2 jobs might actually be able to work vote, and they absolutely DO NOT want that.

queermunist ,
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Correction: less than half of the voters vote for them, but because of the way the government is structured they still control half or more of the government and can take the presidency despite losing the popular vote and now control the Supreme Court forever.

daltotron ,

We also have to consider how many people are salvagable but are voting for republicans as compromise candidates, much like how radicals tend to do with SHADOWLORD JOE BIDEN

queermunist ,
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Yeah a lot of single issue gun voters vote Republican despite agreeing with Democrats on almost everything else.

Followupquestion ,

I’m Jewish, and having lost far too many relatives to centuries of bigotry in Europe culminating in the Holocaust, you can bet I’m not giving up my weapons. I don’t care what anyone says, I won’t vote for a single Dem because any compromise puts my family at further risk. It doesn’t take a history degree to look at the world and see that having limited methods of defense is all but guaranteeing another pogrom starts claiming my family. Heck, the police are all very cozy with the groups spouting Great Replacement propaganda and the Dems want me to believe the police will keep my family safe? How’s that working for other minorities?

max ,

Not American by any means, but isn’t it the republican ones constantly spouting antisemitic garbage on all kinds of media?

Followupquestion ,

And do you trust the GOP, or even the Conservative Party known as the Democrats, holding the reins of all the people with guns? I, for one, do not.

We’re coming up on a holiday celebrating one of the times Jews were forced to take up arms and defend themselves from violent antisemitism, and it’s hardly the only such occurrence in Jewish history. I would argue that even through a “history is written by the victors” lens, there are pretty good reasons to stay armed and vigilant, no matter which party currently has a majority. Neither party has my safety as their priority, and they’ll both happily sacrifice my entire family and millions of others to “keep the peace”. If you’d like more historical examples, let me know. I spent quite some time studying various genocides during my undergrad time at University.

fuckspez ,

Im also Jewish, and what scares me is antisemitism becoming more and more common, as well as the Republican lawmakers openly being antisemitic. Maybe worry about that first and foremost.

Followupquestion ,

Antisemitism is already here, and never really left. Voting only does so much, and the government we have sure AF is not going to protect us. Pogroms were, and will be, carried out by paramilitary groups. Guns don’t solve every problem, but they’re unparalleled for the problems they do solve. When the time comes, better to have an AR and not need it, than need one and not have it.

daltotron ,

I have more than a couple friends where I this is probably the case, despite my endless bargaining, pleading, argumentation that they agree with, and my calls for them to simply engage in a little bit of [redacted] that realistically nobody will care about, in order to keep their guns, should some other, of many, idiotic gun laws come to pass. I dunno, it’s an insane issue. my hair is on end, and it’s been pulled out, at the same time.

RaoulDook ,

Yep I would change my affiliation from Independent to Democrat if they would stop with the gun ban bullshit. I’m never going to vote for anyone who proposes to limit my freedom.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The Silent Majority Sides With Me

PhlubbaDubba ,

Yup, in total numbers, the apathy party is a clear lead ahead of the Democrats and unaligned voters keeping a spirited competition for second, and Republicans place in a solid 4th.

The problem is that FPTP doesn’t consider non-participation and the unaligned voters aren’t an organized party and oh yeah the Republicans are hell bent on codifying that being more spread out entitles them to be more equal than others at the ballot box.

Coreidan ,

half of the voters vote for them

Oh ya? Is that before or after gerrymandering?

FlashMobOfOne ,
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You’re so right.

This is only a Republican problem.

beg ,

So not a real democracy then

0x4E4F , to lemmyshitpost in art

Excuse me, but if you see a butterfly there, there is something seriously wrong with you…

rdri ,

Well the butterfly is certainly there if you look closer.

0x4E4F ,

Nope, looked for like 15 minutes, can’t see it 🤷.

Mr_Fish ,

Look up more

0x4E4F ,

Sorry… I tried, I really did.

LemmyKnowsBest ,

The butterfly is directly above the letter W.

vrighter ,

holy shit, I feel so stupid

0x4E4F ,

Could you cirled that? I can’t even see the letter W 🤦.

Daft_ish ,

What

0x4E4F , (edited )

Sorry, circle that… my kid was nagging me at the time and this thing has no autocorrect or word underline if you happen to spell something the wrong way.

SnipingNinja ,

You need to see the full image for that

The butterfly 🦋 looks like that BTW

0x4E4F ,

Oh, Oh, I think I see it 🤯.

Remeber that scene from Mall Rats with the boat… yeah, I kinda feel like that guy now 🤣🤣🤣.

Reality_Suit ,

Closer!

jaykay ,
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Enhance!

Venat0r ,

All I see is jpeg artifacts.

Reality_Suit ,

Too close!

AceQuorthon , to memes in Microsoft Edge is actually good lmao

Hi, do you have a moment to talk about Arch Linux? I got a pamphlet and reading material for you.

Sheeple OP ,
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It’s ironic because you are actually more original/funny than that guy. All he does is complain about Windows

UnRelatedBurner ,

alr alr, but have you known that I use Arch, btw?

Diplomjodler ,

Did you know that using Windows makes your balls shrink?

Spliffman1 ,
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That’s a good selling point

zammy95 ,

Honestly, I think hitting people with pros of Linux more than flaws/complaints about windows is a better strategy. Negativity is usually just hit with more negativity, not a very strong approach lol

HKayn ,
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It’s just like going on a date with someone who only talks shit about their ex.

theFibonacciEffect ,

Yes, a 3000 page pamphlet

Gnugit ,

LFS

Phanatik ,

Don't forget to install the HDMI kernel module.

ignotum ,

No no, all you’d ever get from an Arch user is single postit that says “got a question? RTFM!”

Source: I use Arch btw

theFibonacciEffect ,

It’s all in the Wiki

ignotum ,
bakachu , to memes in Buzz buzz buzz.

Only a few insects are known to have the ability to hear of which cicadas are included. However, from Brittanica:

Cicadas are noted for the intensity of sound produced by some species and for the elaborate development of the ears, which are located on the first segment of the abdomen.

Please adjust your torture method accordingly and continue…

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Oh legit point.

NateNate60 ,

This is a classic repost.

Piemanding ,

Guess it makes sense that insects that use sounds to attract mates also have ears.

Lenins2ndCat , to mildlyinteresting in Ancient Iran had air conditioning
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This isn’t just mildly interesting. We should be considering methods of air cooling that do not use any carbon in order to avoid aircon usage becoming a contributor to the climate problem as things get hotter and hotter.

MetaCubed ,

I agree with you that we should be exploring alternatives, but aircon is extremely energy efficient for how much thermal energy it moves (reaching 400% efficiency in some cases) . The problem isn’t aircon itself, but what is being used to power it (coal/natural gas power plants)

In fact the technology behind aircon can be expanded into a heat pump to both heat and cool, being more efficient than electro-resistive or gas heating. There’s even water heaters that will actually cool the area they’re in and use the heat they gather from the space to heat the water.

Technology Connections has a great series of videos that go in depth on both heat pumps and aircon.

spongebue ,

Yeah, “air conditioning powered by solar/wind/hydro” can feel like it’s one big Rube Goldberg machine to make air cool, but the reality is that it comes together to make something that can scale really easily. I can’t imagine coming up with a design like what’s in OP for an apartment complex or condo building.

Source: just made it up, but also a Technology Connections fan. All that’s to say, feel free to correct me with a little data

Lazz45 , (edited )

They actively use this design in large buildings (with a modern twist). Its known as a chilled water system: hvactrainingshop.com/how-a-chilled-water-system-w…

Or you have ones that do not run at all during the day, and only chill/freeze the water at night on excess power/cheap power: buildinggreen.com/…/making-ice-night-cool-buildin…

The second system I linked would then let the ice slow melt over the day as its way of actively chilling air passing through its exchanger.

These systems work by chilling water instead of air, which has a much higher heat capacity. Meaning, it can accept much more thermal energy per unit mass before raising its temperature by 1 kelvin. You are able to build a single, very well designed, and efficient refridgeration unit that can provide HVAC services to up to multiple high rise buildings. This reduces waste and reduces the usage of coolant/refridgerant.

This system can be reversed in the winter (heating the water instead of chilling) with geothermal heat, solar heat, or if no “green” options are readily available, natural gas direct fire heat can be extremely efficient compared to electric coil

deadsenator ,
@deadsenator@lemmy.ca avatar

One of our data centers uses a building with a man made “lake” in it. They blow the air across the water and use that air to cool the building and its systems. Seems to work fine.

diyrebel ,

The .com link is dead to me (it’s in an exclusive walled garden not openly available to all people []). I could not find a replacement link. If anyone has a better source, plz mention it.

Lazz45 ,
Beliriel ,

It scales pretty easily. A Yak’chal is basically an early version of a cooling tower. And they regularly get used for bigger house complexes.

grue ,

400% efficiency is good, but it’s not better than the ∞% efficiency you get from something that doesn’t require fuel input to begin with. (I’m pretty sure the Technology Connections guy would agree on that point.)

If nothing else, think of it this way: even if you still want to use air conditioning to make sure you get all the way down to comfortable room temperature or whatever your target is (which a Qanat, although able to achieve a >15°C ΔT, might or might not be able to do reliably), it’ll still give you a big head start and greatly reduce the amount of energy needed. It’s a lot like using a ground-source heat pump instead of an air-source one. What’s not to like‽

MetaCubed ,

Sorry my point wasn’t that we shouldn’t explore other options to use instead of/in tandem with A/C. I was entirely pointing out that the use of an AC/heatpump is by itself, in absence of the context of what is used to power it, a non issue as its one of the most efficient electric heating/cooling technologies we have.

Wind catchers could be, and likely are a great technology to adapt for wider use, though I can’t speak to that, I’m not an HVAC engineer.

crossal ,
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Can you explain 400% efficiency?

TheSaus ,

IIRC for every watt of electricity, 4 watts of energy get moved from the inside bit of your AC to the outside unit

Redex68 ,

What the other guy said. It’s down to the fact that you aren’t actually heating/cooling down a room, you’re just moving the heat already there around. E.g. in winter, instead of producing your own heat with electricity, which is 100% efficient, you take heat from the outside and put it inside, using a lot less energy in the process than if you were to create the heat inside of your home.

Though I’m not sure if it’s that efficient, I think I heard it’s more around the 150-200% mark, but I’m not sure.

Claidheamh , (edited )

I think I heard it’s more around the 150-200% mark

Most cheap air conditioners have COPs (coefficients of performance) around 3.2-3.5, which means 320-350% efficiency. In real world conditions, the best systems reach 4.5, though the theoretical limit is about 8.0.

chronically_crazy ,

3.2-3.5 is also on a good day. It might not be as efficient when the outside temperature differences are further away from your thermostat setting inside, though if you have a geothermal setup, then you’ve got peak efficiency year round.

MetaCubed ,

Sorry, my notifications have been messed up because of the lemmy.world issues! Some other people have already answered but I’ll still reply :)

A heat pump’s efficiency is measured differently than that of a gas furnace.

The actual unit for heat pumps is the Coefficient of Performance (CoP). This measures the power input (electricity) VS the power output (heat). A “400% efficiency” as I put it, is a CoP of 4, meaning that for every watt of power used, 4 watts of heat energy are moved. As some other people pointed out, depending on the quality and technology of the heat pump and the interior/exterior temperature, the actual range of a heat pump is a CoP of anywhere from 2-5.5 (the theoretical, perfect maximum is 8.8). The efficiency of the heat pump does dip as the temperature of the region it’s pulling heat energy from lowers, there’s less energy available to move, so it has to work harder. This is why heat pumps in regions with especially cold winters have what’s usually called “emergency heat” which brings us to…

Electrical heating. This works by pushing electricity through a wire to heat it up. Directly turning electricity into heat. Electrical heating always has a CoP of 1 (terms and conditions apply). For each watt of electrical power consumed, 1 Watt of heat energy is produced.

Finally we have gas heating, which is still the only option for some areas for various reasons. Gas heating efficiency is not measured with CoP but instead with Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency, simply a number that represents what % of the fuel burned is actually turned into useful heat energy. I’m finding AFUE ranges of 76-97% as a general range for modern furnaces. If a furnace has an AFUE of 90%, that means that when it burns an amount of fuel representing 100 units of heat potential (I’m not using a unit, BTUs confuse and terrify me) then 90 of those units will be turned into usable heat, and 10 of them will be waste, whether that is heat that leaves via the chimney or is simply unburnt fuel.

TLDR: 400% means 4x more energy is moved than is used, I apologize for the wordiness, I find this stuff rather interesting

Lazz45 ,

This would be a great idea if you want everyone in that building to file humidity complaints every single day. Air conditioners work by using mechanical work (compressor) to exploit evaporation in order to pull heat from one location to another and exhaust it away, in turn cooling the first location (this could be air, water, etc.)

This system works by using ground temp water as a heatsink to suck heat out of the air passing over it. When it does this, it humidifies the air. In the desert…who cares? In an office building…who cares? Every single worker who is stuck there all day

If you’re saying we need better systems than the AC unit you grew up with, fear not! Many office buildings have been moving away from it (same with other large venues) they use a chilled water system. They use the best of both these systems to get WAY more performance out of way less wattage. You only need a fraction of the cooling power with a chilled water system because the water can absorb much more heat per unit mass than air and can be sized to never run during the day, but only at night when the grid is least in use

Lenins2ndCat ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

AC unit you grew up with

Lmao grew up with? Most of us have never used AC at all in europe. Here in the UK no homes have AC. The issue is that people are installing it now because of climate change and the result is massively higher energy use.

Lazz45 ,

Not necessarily in your house. I’m talking about the design of the units from when you were a child (Many public buildings in the EU have AC regardless of houses not having it). AC was invented in 1901, and has come a very long way since then, and we have begun combining it with old principles to extract the best of both solutions

Combining modern refrigeration/cooling techniques with well designed passive systems that exploit material properties (Heat capacities, transfer coefficients, etc.) to their advantage is the future of HVAC. It started with CFCs and knowing we could exploit their boiling point with mechanical force to chill air beyond the outside air temperature. Who knows where science and engineering may take us next!

tryptaminev ,

Cooling a ware house, lecture hall or mall is very different from cooling an apaprtement building. In particular because most of the former have been designed with AC in mind.

Who knows where science and engineering may take us next!

Not beyond the hard limits of physics. You are not going to retrofit an appartement building built in 1900 or 1970 or 2000 for that matter with an efficent heating/cooling system without major rebuilding.

Aux ,

People in the UK are installing air cons, because most houses are very bad and have no insulation.

Lenins2ndCat ,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

This is not true? L1A, L1B, L2A, and L2B exceed american insulation regulations by a huge amount, and they exceed the EU regulations as well. I did some roofing once upon a time.

Aux ,

Most houses in the UK are not new builds, that’s the issue.

diyrebel ,

Some US states solve this by making it illegal for a roofer to re-roof an uninsulated roof without adding insulation.

grue ,

Obviously, you use the tech in the situations it’s appropriate for. If your office building happens to be in Phoenix, AZ, then a qanat might be a pretty good idea!

Chee_Koala ,

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zW9_ztTiw8 Have you seen this? Seems like the next big thing in AC is just around the corner :-)

Clbull ,

I had a crazy thought. What if you used depressurization to cool interiors?

Not as in depressurize the room and potentially kill the people inside, but in a way similar to soundproofing where you create an airtight gap in your walls, depressurize it to create a partial vacuum and effectively restrict both heat and sound transfer. That way it would be much easier to control internal temperature.

The only two problems I can see with it is expense (pumping air out of the gaps between your walls could be pricey), and the potential of explosive repressurization if something were to break the wall.

Waytoogo ,

I would not explode, it would implode.

sznio ,

Styrofoam is good enough for that.

HumbertTetere ,

Wall isolation is pretty fine as it is, main weaknesses are windows and thermal bridging.

We still have the issue that a perfectly isolated house will need to lose the heat created by humans and electric systems, so actual cooling is required.

tryptaminev ,

And how do you get fresh air in? Also the problem of heat transfer is never by gaps in the walls, at least not for buildings in western and central Europe. The problem is heat conduction through the window panes. And that is with isolated windows already. Also it is impossible to get a brick wall air tight. Leave alone you create a great environment for water to leak in and damage everything.

A building needs to be able to “breathe” in order to get rid of the humidity that is generated inside.

over_clox ,
Doug , to technology in Ally (bank)mobile app fails without connection to graph.facebook.com

So I just tested this. I’m not at home so I had to VPN in which is no issue.

  • I opened graph.facebook.com and confirmed it was working
  • I opened and logged in to my Ally app
  • I added graph.facebook.com to my pi-hole’s black list as a regex entry
  • I opened graph.facebook.com in the browser and confirmed it was blocked
  • I force closed and cleared the cache on my Ally app
  • I opened and logged in to my Ally app

It’s not the Meta connection that’s giving you trouble.

Another_Reddit_Refugee ,

I added graph.facebook.com to my pi-hole’s black list as a regex entry

Yes, but did you clear the DNS cache on your device after doing this? Once the DNS lookup is done it doesn’t matter what you’ve done on your pihole. The IP is cached and pihole will not even see the query.

Doug ,

It’s a fair point but I’ve got two counters.

  1. It was blocked in the browser, which implies there’s not a cached record for it on the device
  2. The Pi-hole logs the queries it receives and I do have four separate entries for that URL today, spaced in an amount of time that does not imply automatic requests but does likely match up with my test cases.
deweydecibel ,

I’ll just point out that I have tracker blocker running on my rooted Android at all times, graph.facebook.com is blocked across all apps on the device, Ive made sure of this. For maybe the 3 or so years I’ve been running it like that, I’ve very, very seldomly found an app that fails if it can’t reach Facebook, though many try.

Liz , to lemmyshitpost in I like to spread knowledge

Good. We shouldn’t be afraid of anatomy.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Yeah, the other end is much scarier anyway. More teeth and all that.

LeFrog ,
@LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

more teeth

I have questions.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Is your question: Is 30 more than 3? Tigers have 30 teeth in the front, which is less than dogs have (they’ve got 42).

MrGerrit ,
Enkers ,

“Rectuma Dentata”, what a wonderful phrase

Rectuma Dentata ain’t no passing craze

Lucidlethargy ,

Lol, it’s feet look like painted cinderblocks… But okay.

You do you.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2f0eea4d-165a-496b-9204-de474ddf6806.jpeg

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah! Where that tiger dick?

Phegan , to technology in Google AI making up recalls that didn’t happen

It blows my mind that these companies think AI is good as an informative resource. The whole point of generative text AIs is the make things up based on its training data. It doesn’t learn, it generates. It’s all made up, yet they want to slap it on a search engine like it provides factual information.

KevonLooney ,

True, and it’s excellent at generating basic lists of things. But you need a human to actually direct it.

Having Google just generate whatever text is like just mashing the keys on a typewriter. You have tons of perfectly formed letters that mean nothing. They make no sense because a human isn’t guiding them.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah, I use ChatGPT fairly regularly for work. For a reminder of the syntax of a method I used a while ago, and for things like converting JSON into a class (which is trivial to do, but using chatGPT for this saves me a lot of typing) it works pretty good.

But I’m not using it for precise and authoritative information, I’m going to a search engine to find a trustworthy site for that.

Putting the fuzzy, usually close enough (but sometimes not!) answers at the top when I’m looking for a site that’ll give me a concrete answer is just mixing two different use cases for no good reason. If google wants to get into the AI game they should have a separate page from the search page for that.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah it’s damn good for translating between languages, or things that are simple in concept but drawn out in execution.

Used it the other day to translate a complex EF method syntax statement into query syntax. It got it mostly right, did need some tweaking, but it saved me about 10 minutes of humming and hawing to make sure I did it correctly (honestly I don’t use query syntax often.)

enleeten ,

They give zero fucks about their customers, they just want to pump that stock price so their RSUs vest.

This stuff could give you incurable highly viral brain cancer that would eliminate the human race and they’d spend millions killing the evidence.

hellofriend ,

It’s like the difference between being given a grocery list from your mum and trying to remember what your mum usually sends you to the store for.

deadbeef79000 , (edited )

… Or calling your aunt and having her yell things at you that she thinks might be on your Mum’s shopping list.

Malfeasant ,

That could at least be somewhat useful… It’s more like grabbing some random stranger and asking what their aunt thinks might be on your mum’s shopping list.

deadbeef79000 ,

… but only one word at a time. So you end up with:

  • Bread
  • Cheese
  • Cow eggs
  • Chicken milk
platypus_plumba , (edited )

It really depends on the type of information that you are looking for. Anyone who understands how LLMs work, will understand when they’ll get a good overview.

I usually see the results as quick summaries from an untrusted source. Even if they aren’t exact, they can help me get perspective. Then I know what information to verify if something relevant was pointed out in the summary.

Today I searched something like “Are owls endangered?”. I knew I was about to get a great overview because it’s a simple question. After getting the summary, I just went into some pages and confirmed what the summary said. The summary helped me know what to look for even if I didn’t trust it.

It has improved my search experience… But I do understand that people would prefer if it was 100% accurate because it is a search engine. If you refuse to tolerate innacurate results or you feel your search experience is worse, you can just disable it. Nobody is forcing you to keep it.

RageAgainstTheRich ,

I think the issue is that most people aren’t that bright and will not verify information like you or me.

They already believe every facebook post or ragebait article. This will sadly only feed their ignorance and solidify their false knowledge of things.

platypus_plumba ,

The same people who didn’t understand that Google uses a SEO algorithm to promote sites regardless of the accuracy of their content, so they would trust the first page.

If people don’t understand the tools they are using and don’t double check the information from single sources, I think it’s kinda on them. I have a dietician friend, and I usually get back to him after doing my “Google research” for my diets… so much misinformation, even without an AI overview. Search engines are just best effort sources of information. Anyone using Google for anything of actual importance is using the wrong tool, it isn’t a scholar or research search engine.

rogue_scholar ,

you can just disable it

This is not actually true. Google re-enables it and does not have an account setting to disable AI results. There is a URL flag that can do this, but it’s not documented and requires a browser plugin to do it automatically.

ricecake ,

I mean, it does learn, it just lacks reasoning, common sense or rationality.
What it learns is what words should come next, with a very complex a nuanced way if deciding that can very plausibly mimic the things that it lacks, since the best sequence of next-words is very often coincidentally reasoned, rational or demonstrating common sense. Sometimes it’s just lies that fit with the form of a good answer though.

I’ve seen some people work on using it the right way, and it actually makes sense. It’s good at understanding what people are saying, and what type of response would fit best. So you let it decide that, and give it the ability to direct people to the information they’re looking for, without actually trying to reason about anything. It doesn’t know what your monthly sales average is, but it does know that a chart of data from the sales system filtered to your user, specific product and time range is a good response in this situation.

The only issue for Google insisting on jamming it into the search results is that their entire product was already just providing pointers to the “right” data.

What they should have done was left the “information summary” stuff to their role as “quick fact” lookup and only let it look at Wikipedia and curated lists of trusted sources (mayo clinic, CDC, national Park service, etc), and then given it the ability to ask clarifying questions about searches, like “are you looking for product recalls, or recall as a product feature?” which would then disambiguate the query.

The_Picard_Maneuver , to fediverse in Just a reminder we are the future of social media.
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Public opinion seems to be souring on all the big corporate social media sites, and I truly think if we’re able to get the word out about federated social media platforms, people will jump ship.

Also, it’s hard to dislike a platform that isn’t showing ads, selling user data, or generally making decisions for the enrichment of shareholders.

BubbleMonkey ,

It’s so weird, I don’t even notice the lack of ads most of the time (pihole, never leave home, so it’s roughly the same experience I’m used to)

But when I go out? Oh man fediverse is the only site I’ll use because I know it’s safe from ads. The other privacy/user-focus stuff is just a bonus.

(I don’t have any friends around here, so just sort of go out to be out, and usually for food)

crazybrain ,
@crazybrain@lemmy.spacestation14.com avatar

Inevitably there will be a fediverse instance with ads, but whether or not people want to use it will be up to the individual.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

I use Boost and it has ads. But they’re ignorable as a banner here and there, not constantly. I can live with that.

muix ,

Is Boost really that much better than Eternity or Voyager that you put up with ads?

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

I like it.

muix ,

Fair enough :)

BubbleMonkey ,

As long as the ads don’t federate in an un-blockable way, they can do as they like. I wouldn’t make an account there, I’d rather donate actual money than have a degraded experience (which for sure works out better for everyone), but I get the drive to monetize.

And they should absolutely -not- be allowed to federate ads, for any reason, since it goes against the vibe. But inevitably there will be “sponsored posts” (probably already are), and I think those instances/users will see themselves fade to oblivion, as long as new users are brought to understand that they could just chip in $2 and never see an ad.

mrmanager ,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

What you can do is install wireguard server at home and then set your phone to use that wireguard connection always. That’s what I do and then my pihole at home filters all my mobile traffic as well.

BubbleMonkey ,

I usually have a private vpn. It’s just isn’t always up. And I can’t be bothered to have it maintained most times because I’m not in control.

I’m considering setting it up through my router which has a built in option, so I don’t have to rely on my third party, but honestly I almost never leave pihole protected networks. So not a priority.

AeroLemming ,

You don’t need an entire VPN just to block ads. I use RethinkDNS on Android and it blocks ads in most apps.

BubbleMonkey ,

The vpn doesn’t block ads or do really anything, it just routes all my traffic back to my home network so I’m using my pihole for DNS.

I’m not about to install even more crap to do a half-ass job when I could just renew my certificate and pass it along for config, and be done with it and never get ads in any app, home or not.

I’m just lazy, and it doesn’t really come up all that often.

scytale ,

For the lowest common denominator social media user, the bar is even lower. As long as everyone else they follow and care about is on the platform, they will happily move. They won’t even care that they will be free from ads and tracking because they never cared in the first place.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

I honestly don’t think we’re there yet.

Remember, something like more than half of all people still don’t use an ad-blocker - some people want ads, or at least want that they provide money to keep the service going, and similarly with selling user data (to the extent that people bother to think about it at all).

Never underestimate the level of entitlement thinking on behalf of new users - like, “Which instance do I join? Wait, I have to choose!? Nvm, I’m out already.” (and for Mastodon, this has much greater implications than for Lemmy)

Also, one single reply to a comment in chapotraphouse on hexbear.net, followed by a second reply somewhere on Lemmy.ml, almost made me turn away from social media entirely, thinking that this place was fast becoming not really all that different than Reddit after all - I mean, these are leftists, aka liberals, these are/must be my people, right, R-R-RIGHT!?

The Fediverse is not for the uninitiated, and requires significant setup work to even be pleasant much less enjoyable, depending on where you go and the users’ innate level of insensitivity.

Though you and many others are working tirelessly to make it better by offering great content - thanks!:-)

Live_your_lives ,

As someone who is much more centrist/liberal, I had to block a whole bunch of leftist communities recently just so that I could keep enjoying the Fediverse. I would have greatly prefered not to, but so much of leftist content on here is far too cynical to any other position.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Even if they were correct, the maner of their interactions makes them wrong, especially the hostility.

Also, being a liberal in America is somewhat similar to being a conservative in Europe, I am told - i.e., “leftist” is a term relative to one’s local surrounding environment. Maybe one day I will become more leftist, although ironically all the leftist comments here are making me start to lean the opposite direction (it would be different if someone explained the positions, rather than simply dunked on everyone who does not share them - groupthink is not a valid way to arrive at Truth, especially when applied in the format of bullying behaviors to outsiders rather than merely acceptance of the in-crowd).

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

”Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. " - Karl Popper

The only reason u see them constantly dunking on everyone is because all the truthfull factual backed up with evidence replies they get get censored if it has a single thing to do the hexbear or .ml. Idk how they do it but a replete to .ml on a .world community can be censored by .ml but replete to that censored comment still work fine. .ml selectively federates the modlog as well to hide admin abuse. They will ban u from every .ml community for 1 comment disagreeing politically especially if u have evidance proving them wrong.

We have tried countering them by rational argument and public opinion but that is failing. We canot tolerate the intolerance of tankies ob lemmy.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

I have stopped recommending Lemmy to people, bc I would be embarrassed for a new user to come here, get bullied as I have been (far more than happened on Reddit), and blame me like “you recommended me to talk to that crowd!?”). Kbin.social was different bc those communities were blocked from the start - at an instance level even - though that server has been down for days, and now I see it’s back up and full of advertisement posts as usual, bc many mods abandoned their communities due to all the technical problems with the service.

But there is hope for change in the future, in terms of perhaps making getting dunked on an opt-in rather than as it currently is an opt-out feature delivered to members of the Fediverse with little to no warning. e.g. here is a discussion I had with an instance admin. Progress, since so many of us joined the Fediverse since the Rexodus, has been (understandably) slow, but can happen, if we work at it!

slaacaa ,

Fediverse is the future of the internet

stark ,

You might inspire some of us to create a Facebook, Instagram, X account just to spread the word of the Fediverse.

newthrowaway20 , to programmerhumor in when google bought datasets from reddit

Ah yes. Because that one Reddit users option holds equal weight to the thousands of professionals in the eyes of an LLM.

This is gonna get worse before it gets better.

s12 ,

Then it’ll get worse again.

thetreesaysbark ,

I’d say it’s not the LLM at fault. The LLM is essentially an innocent. It’s the same as a four year old being told if they clap hard enough they’ll make thunder. It’s not the kids fault that they’re being fed bad information.

The parents (companies) should be more responsible about what they tell their kids (LLMS)

Edit. Disregard this though if I’ve completely misunderstood your comment.

xmunk ,

I mean - I don’t think anyone’s solution to this issue would be to put an AI on trial… but it’d be extremely reasonable to hold Google responsible for any potential damages from this and I think it’d also be reasonable to go after the organization that trained this model if they marketed it as an end-user ready LLM.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s my point, too. AI employing companies should be held responsible for the stuff their AIs say. See how much they like their AI hype when they’re on the hook for it!

thehatfox ,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say it’s more that parents (companies) should be more responsible about what they tell their kids (customers).

Because right now the companies have a new toy (AI) that they keep telling their customers can make thunder from clapping. But in reality the claps sometimes make thunder but are also likely to make farts. Occasionally some incredibly noxious ones too.

The toy might one day make earth-rumbling thunder reliably, but right now it can’t get close and saying otherwise is what’s irresponsible.

xantoxis ,

Sorry, I didn’t know we might be hurting the LLM’s feelings.

Seriously, why be an apologist for the software? There’s no effective difference between blaming the technology and blaming the companies who are using it uncritically. I could just as easily be an apologist for the company: not their fault they’re using software they were told would produce accurate information out of nonsense on the Internet.

Neither the tech nor the corps deploying it are blameless here. I’m well aware than an algorithm only does exactly what it’s told to do, but the people who made it are also lying to us about it.

barsoap ,

Sorry, I didn’t know we might be hurting the LLM’s feelings.

You’re not going to. CS folks like to anthropomorphise computers and programs, doesn’t mean we think they have feelings.

And we’re not the only profession doing that, though it might be more obvious in our case. A civil engineer, when a bridge collapses, is also prone to say “is the cable at fault, or the anchor” without ascribing feelings to anything. What it is though is ascribing a sort of animist agency which comes natural to many people when wrapping their head around complex systems full of different things well, doing things.

The LLM is, indeed, not at fault. The LLM is a braindead cable anchor that some idiot put in a place where it’s bound to fail.

Jomega ,

This is gonna get worse before it gets better.

cm0002 , to funny in *I now know why you cry*

I’ve never even watched the films.

Absolutely unacceptable.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

We need an O’Terminator to hunt down this woman and make her watch them.

spicytuna62 ,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Regular Terminator: AFFIRMATIVE.

New, improved, Irish O’Terminator: TOP OF THE MORNING, LADS.

TotallyNotSpez ,

Not a phrase used in Ireland, but it made me laugh.

spicytuna62 ,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar
SzethFriendOfNimi ,

What’s the best Irish saying that is basically “I’ll be back”/“see you later”

TotallyNotSpez ,

You slap your thighs while getting up from a chair and say ‘Well…’

Alternatively, one can say ‘Take care’, which is my personal favourite.

glimse ,

Very popular in the Midwest US, too. Though it’s often “Welp,” instead of “Well”

spicytuna62 ,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Okie dokie then.

glimse ,

My old boss, a really gruff and serious guy from New York, used to occasionally say “okely solely” and he couldn’t figure out why I found it so funny

TheOctonaut ,

Right so

G’wan I’m gone

G’luck

SzethFriendOfNimi ,

So imagine T2 but before he goes into the Lava he says that and then gives a thumbs up

omega_x3 ,

Cunt

dvlsg ,
@dvlsg@lemmy.world avatar

NEVER FIGHT UPHILL, ME BOYS!

nickwitha_k ,

*THAT’S HER, NOW

dejected_warp_core ,

So… Boondock Saints, but with androids?

moody ,

I need your clothes, your boots, and your shillelagh.

Wanderer ,

I was saying yesterday you never hear jokes anymore so here’s one:

An Irishman walks into a bar, orders three pints of Guinness, and sits in the corner, drinking a sip out of each one in turn. When he finishes them, he comes back to the bar and orders three more. The bartender approaches him and asks, “You know, they’ll go flat after a while.”

The Irishman replies, “You see, I have two brothers. One is in America, the other is in Australia, and since we parted ways, I’ve not seen either of them. By ordering three beers, I am able to toast them both wherever they are.”

The bartender, touched by this gesture, decides not to intervene, and the Irishman becomes a regular in the bar, always ordering three beers and toasting his brothers.

One day, he comes in and orders only two pints. Sensing something amiss, the bartender inquires, “I don’t want to intrude on your grief, but I wanted to offer my condolences on your loss. Was it your brother from America or your brother from Australia?”

The Irishman replies, “Oh, no, neither of them has died. I’ve just given up the drink.”

Ioughttamow ,

Wouldn’t her knowing what she needs to do damage the timeline?

cm0002 ,
thermal_shock ,

no shit, at least the first 2. my kids 9 and we’ve seen them all and watch 2 regularly. looks like it was filmed last year it’s so good.

SlopppyEngineer ,

The only terminator movies worth watching were made before she was born.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Imagine how cool would be if there was a way to see movies after they were released on cinemas.

Klear ,

Luckily we have this nifty technology that allows you to watch movies that came out years ago. It’s called “time travel”.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Ever tried to get your kids to watch movies from a few decades ago? They thought star wars was a slog.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

They were not wrong

RGB3x3 ,

That’s actually what Terminator is going to be about. There was a recent interview with the director, James Cameron, where he mentioned something about time travel. He didn’t want to spoil it before it releases though.

I’m excited to see it in theaters when it comes out!

Etterra ,

The best part about time travel is that if it’s ever invented then it already has been.

Klear ,

The worst part about it always having been is the astronaut shooting you in the head.

toynbee ,

Many versions of fictional time travel that allow backwards travel suggest that the travel cannot happen further back than the initial use of the time machine.

Perhaps my favorite example of this (in terms of narrative, if not logic) is a time machine that is turned on, only to immediately receive a note saying “turn it off RIGHT NOW.”

pressanykeynow ,

It’s also the worst part, every time I think I should invent time travel, I imagine people saying “you invented what? It was always around”. No reason to even try.

abraxas ,

There are only two terminator movies worth watching.

TankovayaDiviziya ,

Tbf, I would not watch a movie retelling my traumatic experience.

EnderMB , to programmer_humor in Has this ever happened to you?

Unironically, yes.

I worked for a client where we had successfully delivered a working FOH site and booking/order system. A new head of marketing joined, and from the first meeting this guy proclaimed himself as a “tech lead” and evangelist. He wanted “full FTP access” within the first 5 minutes of our meeting. We told him we didn’t use FTP as everything was deployed via our CI pipeline, and he kicked off.

After some crisis meetings, he said he wanted to change the entire CMS to be HTML boxes, threatening to ditch us if we didn’t give him what we wanted. They were paying lots for this change, so in the end we obliged. He proceeded to delete basically everything we’d built, and tried to replicate all functionality using a A/B injection tool and a HTML field. Clients were pissed, because none of it worked, and they lost some serious money from it.

In the end, we rolled back and said “fuck it, full git access, you’re a dev now”, and at midnight he brought the site down because he decided to rewrite some db transaction logic to write data to another store. To him, transactions were “outdated tech”, and he tried to clean it up by just performing destructive changes on their own…

In the end, they ditched us, and we were glad to be gone (they bought out their own contract). Sadly, he got his way, changed his title to “lead tech director”, hired a team, and their site went from fairly slick to looking like something from Geocities. That company no longer exists, and sadly, I can’t remember his name so I can’t see where he failed upwards to.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

stuff like this makes me so pissed that it’s so difficult to get into leadership positions for most people, those with connections and money are free to fail upwards and ruin things, but the average joe can be the genius of our age and be stuck working at starbucks for minimum wage their entire life…

It’s also frustrating that a lot of baffling corporate decisions aren’t even excusable as being for profit, it’s just some executive being a moron and no one stops them! If it was for profit i could at least feel nihilistic about it, but this is just corporations actively choosing to continue letting things happen that benefit no-one.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I always think about stuff like this whenever libertarians talk about how much more efficient corporations are than government. I’m like, “Have you ever worked for a corporation?” Organizations are just huge dumpster fires in general, because they’re all run by humans.

Schmoo ,

They’re not dumpster fires because they’re run by humans, but because they’re run by unaccountable hierarchies. Humans are perfectly capable of running a sustainable and efficient operation if we only stopped to consider how better to make decisions collectively.

areyouevenreal ,

Can you give some examples of well run organizations and the techniques they use? I legitimately want to know if it’s possible to do better than most of our current governments, companies, and societies in general. This world is a mess and I have half given up on it ever getting better.

Schmoo ,

Wikipedia - While the Wikimedia Foundation itself is hierarchical, it manages Wikipedia through a process of community-led governance. Every article is maintained by a community of volunteers who engage in open debate to decide on content moderation policies. Wikipedia remains one of the few popular websites to avoid the recent internet enshittification.

Food Not Bombs - An activist organization that serves free food. FNB has no central organizing body, instead operating as a loose-knit group of independent collectives who voluntarily cooperate and exchange information and resources with one another. One specific collective, “A Food Not Bombs Menu,” has taken to coordinating the global activities of FNB collectives and helping people start new ones, but has no power over any others.

IWW - The Industrial Workers of the World, while hierarchical, ensures a hierarchy that is accountable to its’ rank and file members by means of a robust democratic process, as well as the right of any member union or individual member to leave at anytime and go it alone.

There are many more, but it’s late and it took me a while to pick out what I think are good representative examples of different ways an organization can be run well.

mindbleach ,

Reality is a team sport, to some people. All they know is loyalty to hierarchy. If you’re below them and disagree, not only are you wrong, you are personally threatening them. Reasons do not exist.

kimara ,

Sounds like they had it coming. What are HTML boxes and HTML fields?

Anticorp ,

Fields usually refers to form inputs. Boxes could be anything, they could even be a box!

EnderMB ,

A box that allows someone to write HTML and JS and have it appear verbatim on a web page.

A horrific idea, and one that’s surprisingly hard to implement, as any sane CMS will stop you executing random code onto a web page, and any sane framework would stop you building a form in a free text box to POST data.

Every time we tried to fight this he would say “but WordPress would let you do this”. He tried to petition his boss to rewrite an entire web site and application we’d just built and delivered to spec and on budget in WordPress because “it would be better”.

Anticorp ,

He sounds like someone who read a Wired Magazine article and figured that made him an expert.

That company no longer exists

Not surprising if they’re putting people like that dumbass in charge. It’s just unfortunate that idiots like that end up costing everyone else their jobs too.

EnderMB ,

What’s funny is that this wasn’t a small company either. I won’t name it because it’ll be very easy to find this person, but they landed a leadership position with very little experience - think a few years working as a dev, and maybe one as a manager.

In my eight years working in consultancy, I’ve seen plenty of examples of this. I could write a book on some of the mental shit I’ve seen, from workplace wellness app owners trying to bully me online for having a single bug in their app, to finding several GB of fake Katy Perry nudes stored in a production database for a major company. Tech is totally fucked.

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