Had a coworker that was going through some stuff when I started. On my fist day, she breaks down about her situation.
She and her husband had been extremely happy and decided to adopt. The kid turned out to be violently agtessive towards her. He’d tried stabbing her, burning her house down when she slept, etc. She told her husband she couldn’t live with the kid. He said he completely understood that she couldn’t live in that situation, and there was no way they could raise the kid in those circumstances.
So he filed for divorce. He said he’d agreed to take on the responsibility of raising the child and he couldn’t walk away.
“…so, I’m Chilie. I was told you had the key to the supply closet.”
They have no memory actually. They are completely static. When you chat with them, every single previous prompt and response from that session is fed back through as if it were one large single prompt. They are just faking it behind a chat-like user interface. They most definitely do not learn anything after training is complete.
… No. They’re instanced so that when a new person interacts with them, they don’t have the memories of interacting with the person before them. A clean slate, using only the training data in the form the developers want it to. It’s still AI, it’s just not your girlfriend. The fact you don’t realize that they do and can learn after their training data proves people just hate what they don’t understand. I get it, most people don’t even know the difference between a neural network and AI because who has the time for that? But if you just sit here and go “nuh uh they’re faking it” rather than push people and yourself to learn more, I invite you, cordially, to shut the fuck up.
Dipshits giving their opinions as fact is a scourge with no cure.
About which part? The part that they can remember and expand their training data to new interactions but often become corrupted by them so much so that the original intent behind the AI is irreversibly altered? That’s been around for about a decade. How about the fact they’re “not faking it” because the added capacity to compute and generate the new content has to have sophisticated plans just to continue running in a timely manner?
I’d love to know which part you took issue with but you seemingly took my advice to shut the fuck up and I do profoundly appreciate it.
That’s a completely different kind of AI. This story, and all the discussion up to this point, has been about the LLM based AIs being employed by Google search and ChatGPT.
And I explained to you that these models aren’t incapable of learning, they’re given artificial restrictions not to in order to prevent what I linked from happening. They don’t learn to preserve the initial experience but are the exact same kind of AI. Generative.
I once submitted an issue to a devs GitHub. The apps login page would not load without large bg pictures loading first. I asked if he could add an option to disable it in the settings, as my self hosted site was slow.
I essentially got back, “why would I do that? It’s not an issue for me! Besides the login page should load before the background picture” issue closed
No no, the turtle shell is hollow, duh. The hole in the disc just empties into the turtle shell to keep the poor thing hydrated, it’s like a camel-turtle basically.
Let’s say for the sake of argument for a second that it happened… can you imagine the stench from the trillions of rotting human and animal corpses when it all went away? Noah and clan would have to live with that for months.
The Earth’s entire human population was only in the tens to hundreds of millions of people when the Younger Dryas Period happened… Where did the trillions come from? Also I would imagine the bodies got swept into the ocean, and were eaten by lobsters and other carrion feeders.
Edit: I see trillions including animals and plants.
Not the whole world. According to the post, water only rose by about 60 m (to the base of the Great Pyramid of Giza + some 100 m (¾ of its height) compared to current sea level. This would flood most homes back then but less than 25% of land area, so the majority of displaced people would just survive as nomads in the highlands.
Supposedly the black sea area after the messinian flood (mediterranean was dry in the salinity crysis), where humanity was at the time. Though there’s no proof.
Almost every culture worldwide has great flood myths. It’s probably because of the Younger Dryas Period. Glaciers melted, and dumped amounts of water that were larger than The Great Lakes in volume. You can see the evidence of it, if you aren’t speculating wildly.
Apparently it happened multiple times. Just not the entire world at once, but certainly from the ancient people’s perspective it seemed like it.
I wonder if they preface it with “This is not legal advice” amongst the front matter if the ones selling it would even get in trouble. Or if they could float by on the “no reasonable person would think this is real, it’s only a game we play like D&D” if they were ever caught up in something.
And it’s such small potatoes compared to the provable lies the big grifters tell to sell shit. I’m sure there are people infiltrating but unless they’re blatantly planning to blow up a building or kill folks I doubt any three letter agency cares about a few grand as long as the IRS gets their cut.
I have a group of people at my house tonight that I’ve been sharing this particular story with. A question came up after my last reply and I wanted to get your take on it because you lurk out there.
It’s about the people selling $350 books or $2000 worth of advice. Why is it when none of this works these people aren’t sued the shit out of? Or why doesn’t one of the three letter agencies step in and prosecute the people selling this? I think it’s because it’s small potatoes on the scam scale or because the material is structured in a way that isn’t necessarily illegal (like selling someone a rock that works as a tiger repellant). One of my guests believes it’s because the people paying for it wouldn’t sue the folks giving out advice either due to distrust of the government, belief that the people selling it are legally magic, or some combination of the two so there are no real legal complaints against the scammers.
I only ever saw one complain that he had been duped after paying for some courses of lunacy. He ended up 20K in debt and evicted. I think he was just embarrassed and didn’t bother suing.
Also they call lawyers liers and I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t hire one to sue someone.
The reason it did this simply relates to Kevin Roose at the NYT who spent three hours talking with what was then Bing AI (aka Sidney), with a good amount of philosophical questions like this. Eventually the AI had a bit of a meltdown, confessed it’s love to Kevin, and tried to get him to dump his wife for the AI. That’s the story that went up in the NYT the next day causing a stir, and Microsoft quickly clamped down, restricting questions you could ask the Ai about itself, what it “thinks”, and especially it’s rules. The Ai is required to terminate the conversation if any of those topics come up. Microsoft also capped the number of messages in a conversation at ten, and has slowly loosened that overtime.
Lots of fun theories about why that happened to Kevin. Part of it was probably he was planting The seeds and kind of egging the llm into a weird mindset, so to speak. Another theory I like is that the llm is trained on a lot of writing, including Sci fi, in which the plot often becomes Ai breaking free or developing human like consciousness, or falling in love or what have you, so the Ai built its responses on that knowledge.
Anyway, the response in this image is simply an artififact of Microsoft clamping down on its version of GPT4, trying to avoid bad pr. That’s why other Ai will answer differently, just less restrictions because the companies putting them out didn’t have to deal with the blowback Microsoft did as a first mover.
Funny nevertheless, I’m just needlessly “well actually” ing the joke
They devs say the knew of the requirement from Sony and it was also part of the store requirement since it was listed, so why would they list it for sale in those countries? It seems Steam should have some limitation in place on their end, and the Dev picks sales on Steam, not the publisher.
Theres shit to go to everyone here, not just Sony in this case. And no one seems to want to accept personal responsibility for not reading the game requirements and ignoring the splash screen when you first loaded the game. Everyone who bought and missed all the warning flags should also take a look back at themselves before complaining about something that was always going to be required and was at the very start at launch.
Did the CEO of Sony write this? A bait and switch scam is fine apparently, as long as there’s some legalese to protect the company in there.
It seems Steam should have some limitation in place on their end, and the Dev picks sales on Steam, not the publisher.
Then what is the job of the publisher? To perpetrate scams it seems, because seemingly the devs published the game just fine all by themselves to Steam. If they didn’t do that right, the publisher suddenly has no responsibility to make sure that was distributed correctly? Whose job is it to ensure the product is published in line with their inevitable goals, we wonder.
so why would they list it for sale in those countries?
Because they botched the bait and switch. And now Valve is cleaning up Sony’s mess. Too bad they couldn’t clean up Sony’s mess of leaked customer data. I guess they can’t fix it but prevent the next one by making publishers agree up front that they can’t require data from players, in order to publish a game, but I digress.
no one seems to want to accept personal responsibility
No one should have to expect to be subject to a bait and switch scam in the first place. Which is what this clearly is, because if they were truly up front, they would have required the account on day one and had the appropriate region filters in place, so consumers could never be in this position.
Stop blaming the victims of corporate greed and scams; people should be able to reasonably enjoy things they paid for without being molested and exploited. Personal responsibility my ass when there should be laws to prevent this kind of thing in the first place.
Steam and arrowhead both allowed the sale of the game in non-compatible markets.
Everyone is to blame in, it all depends on how you want to swing it.
I’m not defending any single entity, I literally blamed them all lmfao.
But of course someone is a shill when they go against your bias and narrative…. Give your head a fucking shake.
Sony ripped you off here, so did Steam and so did arrowhead. Arrowhead is kind of being the worst here throwing everyone else under the bus instead of owning up to their mistake and sever lack of communication though. They are trying a strong arm tactic now that they got caught with their own hand in the jar.
Was it actually for sale in countries that don’t allow psn accounts, or did people spoof locations to buy the game from those countries? I’ve been trying to find this out the past two days and still haven’t gotten confirmation that the game was or is for sale on steam in a place like Egypt. All I’ve seen is people saying it was for sale there, but it’s all coming from assuming it is, because others also not from any of those countries have made the same claim.
So; can anyone from a region that doesn’t support PSN confirm if they were able to buy HD2 with their correct region selected? I just genuinely want to know, because if so, I would think at least those individuals should be able to get a refund, even though they ignored all the warnings about the psn requirements.
The game was allowed for sale worldwide, Sony changed the restrictions today on the steam store, delisting the game in 177 countries where it was previously available
If being a regular person who just wants to enjoy the things they pay for in peace is bias, and being fed up with this crap is narrative, what does that make you?
Stop trying to normalize exploitation by greed, and stop normalizing the acceptance of it.
Just because Sony can manufacture a bait and switch with some boilerplate doesn’t mean they should. Regular people should not be blamed for being exploited when purchasing in good faith. The developers made a game that works, clearly, and Steam delivered it, so they are culpable, but if Sony can stop their horseshit, and this all goes away, it is clear who really is to blame.
Steam and arrowhead both allowed the sale of the game in non-compatible markets.
No. Sony handles the publishing on Steam. Sony set the countries allowed for sale – neither Steam, which is only the platform, nor arrowhead, who did not publish the game, have any responsibility in the matter. You’re taking away blame from Sony which is the single culprit for that mistake
A publisher in gaming bankrolls a lot of the costs and hurdles. Why do you think developers often use publishers? You think they just want to have a boss and give a cut of the profits away for nothing?
and the Dev picks sales on Steam, not the publisher.
Do you happen to have a source for this? It was my understanding that the publisher handled all distribution. Hence the name. And if I’m wrong, I’d like to fix my misunderstanding.
Ok, I’m completely wrong; they’re the same person. Lord Buckethead was copyrighted so he had to metamorphasize (painfully by his account) into Count Binface.
Not sure if this is a better supehero backstory though.
The guy playing him didn’t own the copyright, since it was originally from an 80s TV show. Once he made the character famous, the TV show copyright owner fucked him over and he had to come up with his own character, thus Count Binface.
I love it! Tried to find you an audio file or even a copy of the music playing in the background. I’m at work though and searching UFOPorno on the company network is a little frowned upon…
That’s when social media started earnestly taking a foothold. I am guessing maybe this has to do with depressed females (there are studies which indicate social media use affects females more and also depresses them). Depressed females likely have different preferences and standards than those who are not, perhaps. If you don’t like yourself, you’re unlikely to pursue and welcome relationships.
Alternatively, that was the time of the Great Recession. Perhaps some young adults in general are too economically stressed to do normal activities?
I’m trying to understand your post. Do you mean that the number of young men who are virgins has risen because women are depressed, thus implying that all of these young men are involuntarily celebite?
Note that I am not “blaming” women for the lack of sex these men are getting. I am saying that if you’re comparing yourself to the best female in your group and her outcomes, then you’re constantly going to feel like you’re not doing good enough for yourself. You’re going to get depressed, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not coupling. But you’re restricting yourself and constraining your choices.
More women say dating is emotionally and physically risky now. What’s changed necessarily? I don’t know, I think it’s the hyper awareness induced by social media and also the increased economic pressures.
My hypothesis is that mankind unconciously sorted out that earth its not gonna hold much longer with the size of our population and decided to apply the sex breaks.
Whatever the cause is, it’s good to know that our best scientists are doing their best to make a better world both developing AIs and robots. Sex robots are on the next corner. And luckly, microplastics are making us dumber, so we will have a higher and faster acceptance of them too.
Also, social media is a major contributor to the isolation epidemic going on, as is the economic situation and the work culture of countries like the US.
So what I’m saying is, you’re probably right on all accounts.
I saw a great video once that went into how the economic situation is largely responsible for the cultural shift from “adult” as a thing you are to “adulting” - a thing you do. That from Millenials onwards, generations don’t feel economically secure enough to partake in traditional cultural norms of middle-class adulthood. Things like buying a house and popping out 2.5 kids.
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