Wasn’t the butter one just… A human shaped bottle? Looking at the logo from the beginning until the end it doesn’t look like it’s ever been a thing other than simply a depiction of a black woman. Not even a caricature of such, just like a painting of a person who could totally be real. But maybe what I’m referencing doesn’t have the off-shoot flavors. 🤷🏻♂️
I too enjoy the white privilege of being able to look at something and judge it without thinking about context. It’s fantastic to be able to simplify things to just face value and not think about the racial history behind it. It’s one of my favorite privileges.
Unfortunately, I somehow never got that middle-aged white man’s confidence of instantly knowing what other people should be feeling, better than they do. I must be defective. But it means I tend to defer to the people that are hurt by something to judge if they’ve been hurt or not.
Stfu. It’s not I ain’t heard this, it’s that I don’t accept it, in this limited case. And for someone don’t even know my race to instantly go with the white privilege line is fucking telling.
Ironically, the butter one was actually designed by Patrick DesJarlait, an Ojibwe man, specifically meant to accurately reflect his culture. Here’s an article written by his son about the whole thing:
The Sun-Maid girl is depicted performing a job that’s traditionally associated with slavery. Is depicting white people performing slave labor also problematic or is slavery only bad when it involves people of color?
Also, the job she’s doing is predominantly done by immigrants nowadays. Is depicting her as white not disenfranchising these people by denying them representation?
as an aside, I’ve never seen a canned pickle product.
What? Lots and lots of pickles are canned (all the ones at the store, except for some of the refrigerated ones). They just do it in glass jars instead of metal.
Edit: I don’t know why I’m being downvoted for stating a fact. Shelf-stable pickles (that aren’t lacto-fermented) like this…
…are, in fact, considered “canned.” If you don’t believe me, call up Vlasic yourself and ask them if “canning” accurately describes their manufacturing process. The number is right there on the jar in the picture: 1-800-421-3265.
Edit 2: Just to be even more clear, pickles like this:
Are not canned. The difference isn’t the container (which has exactly the same kind of “lug” or “twist-off” lid as the Vlasic jar), but the fact that this one isn’t pasteurized and has a warning label telling you to keep it refrigerated.
Nope. When something is heat-sterilized and preserved in a sealed container via water bath or pressure, it’s considered “canned” regardless of what type of container it is. That’s why things like this…
Mayhaps in english. Maybe he is not form an english speaking country. I myself am not and canning here is exclusively for metal cans and jarring has a separate word.
I looked up the ingredients, and apparently it’s literally only chicken, water, and salt. So it could be worse I guess. Might be useful to have around if SHTF.
I notice that a lot of people make sense of life using a series of rules. “if X then that means Y!” I think they’re bad at sussing out what’s right by reading the room, and they also can’t make sense of a complex world. They just default to thinking of the world as if we’re in a video game. It’s like they lack empathy or the ability to read humans or something.
Probably not going to happen. I watched the review mentioned in this comment and the verdict was that isn’t not particularly flavorful when just baked in the oven, as the can apparently recommends.
Does sound like a decent option for making soup, however. Especially during a pandemic.
That would be true if they were still using those depictions at the time they dropped them. But they weren’t, as you can very much see in the meme that used the most current logos before they were dropped.
Do you work hard at being a dumbass or does it just come naturally?
Are you upset that they didn’t remove the white folk or are you upset that depictions of people that other people decided were problematic were removed?
It’s upsetting that depictions of normal POC without any racist stereotyping or characteristics were found to be “problematic.” Tell me, in what way, are the depictions shown in the meme’s example racist?
PS: Apart from this argument not going anywhere, it’s not even entirely true. Aunt Jemima (now Pearl Milling Company) is directly owned by Quaker Oats (which in turn is owned by PepsiCo). Meanwhile, Uncle Ben’s / Ben’s Original is owned by Mars, Inc., so you’re defending some of the biggest (and worst) food conglomerates on the planet.
Sadly, it’s most likely Barnes & Noble Education since most universities have outsourced their bookstores to them. At least my university now offers free textbooks to students but Barnes & Noble Education runs the logistics of it.
When I was putting myself through school, I could never afford any of the textbooks. I pretty much lived in the school library for mid-terms and finals. It sucked. When most kids were studying at home, I’d have to camp out in the library because it’s the only place that I had access to the textbooks. If a particular class didn’t have their textbook available in the library then I couldn’t take that class. This was before Bit Torrent, so piracy and PDFs weren’t available options.
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