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MrJameGumb , to lemmyshitpost in The what now?
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Want to learn more? Here’s everything you need to know about the elusive dongfish!

ShadedCosmos ,
@ShadedCosmos@lemmy.world avatar

Noooooooo

rockerface ,

Reality is often disappointing

VikingHippie ,

That’s gonna be my epitaph: “In reality, often disappointing”

Klear ,

Unfortunatley that’s not going to be your epitapth. You know why.

VikingHippie ,

Oh shit, they found out?? flees the country

CaptainFlintlockFinn ,

Totally thought I was going to get Rick rolled

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

It's so much worse. We got truth rolled. :(

Facelikeapotato OP ,
@Facelikeapotato@lemmy.ml avatar

Aww, what a shame. At least Bum Farto was a real person, even if Bum was a nickname.

NotNKVD ,
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FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, that’s what I thought. Way too good to be true.

Rac3r4Life , to memes in Restricted Topics
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When I was a kid (way too many years ago) my parents gave up trying to restrict my Internet usage because no matter what they did I could easily get around it. I knew more about networking than they did. Then I grew up to become an IT administrator.

Countless ,

The question is,will you be able to restrict YOUR kids?

kionite231 ,

Probably not younger generations are usually smarter than the older one.

Misconduct ,

I dunno… A lot of the newer gens didn’t have to tinker with everything to get it to work so they’re less familiar with the ins and outs of stuff. Not to say they all are because it’s silly to generalize that many people but many of them grew up with this stuff. Just like how I couldn’t tell you how a TV works or fix one but I’ve built all my own pcs. That happened naturally because I had to learn it early on to have a computer. That being said they definitely seem to be developing a unique skill set for navigating the internet and social media as a whole. I’ve noticed they’re a lot less likely to trust a generic Google search or various articles online. I guess when you’re raised around bullshit you’re gonna end up more critical of it. This is mostly about gen z of course and maybe younger millennials. Gen alpha is feral and weird we should all be worried lmao

Woland ,
@Woland@lemm.ee avatar

If they were really applying critical thinking to bullshit, mainstream media wouldn’t be forced to literally put together entire departments dedicated to fighting fake news.

Rac3r4Life ,
@Rac3r4Life@lemmy.world avatar

I think you misunderstand the reason they need to fight fake news. It’s for the boomers. Kids these days are very media literate and skeptical of everything. It’s really all the boomers who are falling for misinformation and spreading it on Facebook.

vaultdweller013 ,

Gen alpha is weird and feral and fucking great. I hope I see what madness the bring to this world.

alvanrahimli ,

This is very true. We had to fix all the shit happens to our systems and stuff. But now, they have perfected by implementing this restrictive environments like mac os, chrome os, and stuff like this (windows is trying to implement same thing these days too). So, their devices don’t break. They don’t have to learn how to fix that.

Nowadays kids don’t even understand basic file structure, lmao.

KazuyaDarklight ,
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

The fresh college grads getting hired at my work imply this is becoming an inaccurate generalization. Particularly in regards to tech. We may be reaching the brain’s natural knowledge saturation point, and with so much knowledge available, there’s a natural tendency towards a wide but shallow pool.

vaultdweller013 ,

Also the fact that unless we have some very notable breakthroughs the tech adults of now grew up with will probably be relatively similar to those kids born now will grow up with.

We saw massive technological growth over the last 70 years especially for computer and to illustrate my point im gonna note when my mother, grandmother, and myself were born and note the standard computers available.

Me(1999) Computers were similar enough to modern ones that there isnt much to note outside of processing power and startup, sure theres clear differences but if you know how to operate windows 98 you can probably figure out windows 10 with ease.

My mother(1979) Congrats you have the apple II computer, some weird texas Instruments computers, and whatever IBM is making. The commadore 64 will be released in three years. Almost all the knowledge is irrelevent for these computers because between the internet and the march of progress not much is gonna be recognizable.

My grandmother (1956) Computers are the size of rooms and their consoles resemble radar equipment more than anything else probably cause it is old radar equipment. Colored television is a luzury item and the average person thinks a computer is someone good at mathmatics.

dylanTheDeveloper ,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

See instead of blacklisting websites you whitelist instead

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Dad creating a small business class network with DPI at home to find out if the kids do something bad. :p

Rac3r4Life ,
@Rac3r4Life@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t have any kids yet (I’m 32) but I do have a small business class network. 😂

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Don’t restrict but rather educate and guide them. I would probably fail but hey: I tried.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My mom asked my uncle to restric access.
I researched how to unblock it during my time :)
Was seemingly IP-based and the router probably just created an DHCP reservation for my device. Changing IP to static and done. They should do it via MAC. And even that is useless nowadays.

Edit: Also work in IT now.

Rac3r4Life ,
@Rac3r4Life@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, with MAC randomization being readily available on pretty much any device now it is also pretty useless.

CleanDefinition ,

lol, same, I’m a programmer now

SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT ,

And this is why kids should grow up with increasingly restrictive parental control software. It’s educational.

LemmyWinks666 ,
@LemmyWinks666@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not wrong. I was so desperate to get online as a kid I was pirating my neighbor’s internet on my Nintendo DS with a borrowed copy of the browser, because that was the only hardware I had with wifi access lmao.

Captain_Nipples ,

Back when I was a kid, I ended up guessing my principal’s internet password for our local dial-up. His email was through our local phone company, so his login name was the same… So I had free internet from 8th grade til I graduated. Eventually, the phone company made it where only one person could be logged in at once, but by then I had the money to buy my own.

My parents weren’t home a lot of hours in the afternoon, and I was the oldest, so I had free reign. I kind of miss those days

I still remember the 3 passwords I got over the years. His was “kramer” and the other two were “Ozzie1” and “Chicken1”

EatMyDick ,

I’m not reading you CAN’T, but filtering software is FAR better than the shit we got around. If you lock your bootloader there isn’t much you’re going to be able to do except use other devices available to you.

froh42 ,

I gave my kids completely open internet access and just chose to talk with them on what they might encounter. If I’d locked their devices, they’d just went online at a friend’s place.

Rac3r4Life ,
@Rac3r4Life@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I don’t have any kids yet, but if I did I would do the same.

mithbt ,

I didn’t restrict my kids Internet access, but I did tell them that even though I’m not tracking everything they’re doing online, the ISP, the school, upstream providers, search engines, social medias, advertisers, and pretty much everyone else will be.

paskalivichi , to linux in Your First Look at GNOME 45's Default Wallpaper - OMG! Linux

Ok, someone please explain to me why default wallpapers are a story in any way?? And everytime a new version of a desktop comes out, I’m baffled to see that theres an actual discussion and debate about…default wallpapers??? Like in the same sense that people talk about ACTUAL desktop features…

You guys don’t change your wallpaper??.. Who in the flying fuck cares about the goddamn default wallpaper?!?!?!?

Orange ,
@Orange@sh.itjust.works avatar

Agreed. Came into the comments to find out why this was worthwhile of a post and I still don’t understand.

bamboobam ,

They are learning from MacOS.

RandallFlagg ,

The first thing I do whenever I install any new OS is change the wallpaper, I dgaf about the default one lol

RassilonianLegate ,
@RassilonianLegate@mstdn.social avatar

@RandallFlagg
@paskalivichi
Same here, I haven't used a default wallpaper for more than a few minutes since the xp days

boonhet ,

I actually don’t change mine if the default is nice. Or I keep it for a while till I replace it. Still baffles me that people think they warrant much discussion unless Gnome decides to ship a wallpaper with literal gnomes fucking or something.

digdug ,

"Why do you have a wallpaper with gnomes having sex?"
"Meh, it's the default, I can't be bothered to change it."

boonhet ,

I’d definitely keep it on a personal machine just to get people to ask tbh

RickyRigatoni ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

They will never attain the perfection of Bliss, anyways.

ipsirc ,
@ipsirc@lemmy.ml avatar

The Kali users.

BCsven ,

A clean wallpaper is the first onboarding experience for a user. Some distros have horrible wallpapers. other than that wallpaper doesn’t matter. personally I did a lot of late night computer work so wanted a redish background. I found this image, did a deep search but coyld not find original artist/photographer.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/d8ff0fa1-af43-45a5-83f3-a9ae2ac748e0.jpeg

flashgnash ,

Can confirm, I never thought I cared about wallpaper or that it made much difference but it turns out it was a big part of why I like elementOS/pantheon so much and after switching gnome’s wallpaper to a similar one I realised I liked it more

Sounds dumb but it really has a subconscious effect on how much you like the DE as a whole

BCsven ,

Totally. We are driven to look for beauty, form, symmetry in nature, and assymetry for interest. IMO a bad wallpaper could turnoff a potential new user if it has that janky feel. Zorin and Elementary seem very polished because they took the time to start with clean wallpaper and polish the UI. And I realize Ubuntu is a good distro but can you imagine recommending it to a C level exec and their first look is a faceted pather looking thing that seems like 90s tron vector graphics. Similarily Pop!_OS is great but some dude is going to see a minimal colour posterized robot scene and think is this on OS for kids? Don’t get me wrong I love posterized art, but not everyone does.

angrymouse ,

Im using endevourOS for about 6 months, before i used manjaro for 12 months, all without changing the default wallpaper

conorab ,

For me, the default wallpaper throws me back to the period it was made and reminds me of what it was like to use that version. This GNOME one feels a little generic and I swear I’ve seen it before. Feels like the right style to use in a dynamic wallpaper where colours randomly shift.

Aman9das ,
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The GNOME wallpapers often have inner meaning, the stripe one denotes world temperature over the years getting warmer

This one denotes Forest Fires

Jacub Steiner is pretty creative

dukk ,

That’s actually…pretty well done, I saw that wallpaper and my first thought was forest fires.

gerryflap , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for
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I’m supposed to have energy as an adult?! I have way more time than energy. Most of that time is spent doing useless shit like watching YouTube because I’m too exhausted to do anything useful

cynar ,

I used to think that. Unfortunately, you’ll be proven wrong with time. I really did have a lot of energy, when I was younger. I’m now having to be ever smarter with what I have, just to tread water.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

No, I’m willing to bet you have plenty of energy. Society has simply deemed that all of it must be spent on being productive for the sake of everyone except yourself.

“If your employees have energy to spend on meaningful activities during their own time, you’re leaving money on the table. Squeeze them harder while they are on the clock.”

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Agree to disagree, I likely have a sleep disorder, so I haven’t had a good night’s sleep in nearly 10 years! Check, and, mate! Fuck I hate my life…

gerryflap ,
@gerryflap@feddit.nl avatar

Disagree. I used to spend time on more energy-intensive hobbies like programming and music production. But I’ve had mono and COVID in 2020 and I’ve never felt the same thereafter. Also working 40 hours a week drains a lot of energy

AtariDump ,

“No, I’m willing to bet you have plenty of energy. Society has simply deemed that all of it must be spent on being productive for the sake of everyone except yourself.”

“Also working 40 hours a week drains a lot of energy”

Hence the first comment. What if you only had to work 20 hours a week? You’d have the energy then.

gerryflap ,
@gerryflap@feddit.nl avatar

True. Guess I misread. I’ve already switched to 36 hours and I totally aim to go lower once I earn more. Work to live, not live to work

Rinox ,

If you have time then try working out and doing sports. It sounds asinine, but I’ve found that exerting yourself increases your levels of energy in the long term. Even something small, a little bit at a time will be greatly beneficial. Also try doing it with someone else and try having an active social life that will motivate you to go out of the house and stop spending all the evening alone on the couch watching YouTube (which is really detrimental, ask me how I know it).

Like the Romans said “mens sana in corpore sano” (you need a healthy body to have a healthy mind)

gerryflap ,
@gerryflap@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah sports were my first attempt to solve it. I’m running twice a week usually and have done a few half marathons now. It’s helped a bit, but my energy is still not amazing. It’s probably related to having issues with mono and COVID in 2020, I’ve never been the same since then. Working 40 hours per week didn’t help either.

AtariDump ,
NutWrench , to memes in Everytime
@NutWrench@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not about the gays vs straights or blacks vs whites or the Romulans vs The Federation. It’s about the billionaires vs everybody else. It’s a class war. It aways has been. And life is never going to improve for most of us until we figure out where the REAL source of our pain comes from. Like George Carlin once said:

“That’s the way the ruling class works in any society. They keep the lower and middle classes fighting with each other so that they . . . the rich . . . can run off with all the f*cking money.”

dangblingus ,

Conservatives: “George Carlin is a Republican!”

deathbird ,

Only in a social context where “liberal” just means “polite”.

DessertStorms , (edited )
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

If you think capitalism didn't create and still heavily relies on racism, sexism, ableism, cisheteronormativity and so on (and no, comparing real life oppressed groups to fictional characters doesn't help) to literally exist, you've not been paying any attention.

Fighting only a class war still leaves an imperialist white supremacist cisheteronormative ableist theistic patriarchy.

Intersectionality is the only way everyone gets justice and equity.

uis ,
PilferJynx ,

I think, on average, we’re too dumb as a species to keep it in mind. I would hate to say we deserve the system we’ve got, but here we are.

exocrinous ,

And life is never going to improve for most of us until we figure out where the REAL source of our pain comes from

Yeah! Consensus reality!

CableMonster ,

Why do you stop at billionaires, and not include the politicians and the people that hold power?

Flumpkin ,

You forgot the journalists who frame narratives and the intellectuals who secrete the ideology that makes it all possible.

FunkyStuff ,

The state is part of the superstructure that is shaped by the economic base, which is in turned maintained by said superstructure. However, changes in the superstructure are never transformative unless they also come with radical change to the mode of production. Billionaires, and the capitalist class as a whole, completely block the path for the workers to seize the means and reshape society towards progress. It doesn’t matter what faffing idiot you put in power in the state, when the economic base keeps operating with the same logic of capitalist extraction.

orcrist ,

Many middlemen are getting played, too.

Alsephina ,

Politicians are part of the state, which is shaped by the economic system which, in most of the world, is currently capitalism.

The root of the problem is class society and the capitalist system where the ruling class are the capitalists. So it doesn’t really matter who the politicians are until the economic system, and thus the ruling class, are changed, which can only happen by organizing outside the capitalist political system whose only purpose is to protect capital.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

You all need to read gramsci.

If you think racism is an issue of “whites vs blacks” you either have never seen racism (good for you) or never really heard the people affected.

Hegemonial culture is a thing, and it plays a major role in keeping modern systems afloat.

Can’t fight capitalism without addressing inequalities and fighting for a just society for everyone.

This is the literal concept of solidarity: also fighting for causes you are not personally affected by.

wewbull ,

You’re so close.

Can’t fight capitalism without addressing inequalities and fighting for a just society for everyone.

So very close!

Jean_le_Flambeur , (edited )

Because you think we end capitalism an poof, all other problems are gone?

Sure, can’t overcome e.g. racism without overcoming capitalism, but also can’t really have a better society without addressing the discrimination in the system.

If some other working class member tells you about the discrimination he receives, and you make the face in the meme, you’re helping capitalists by splitting the working class.

The fights are interwoven guys, can’t do “this first” or “that first”

You need to address the problems (yes that means also cultural ones) and stand together in solidarity to have a chance of building a better system.

Splitting the working class by making this face when people talk about how they are discriminated just because your not affected is only helping capitalists

wewbull ,

Class inequality is not the same thing as anti capitalism. I like capitalism. I see it as a vehicle for those who contribute being rewarded.

We have classist structures outside of more things than business. Politics is the big one, but it’s nowhere near the only one. I’m for tearing down those who get power without needing to demonstrate the skill needed to wield it. Those that are given it either through nepotism or cronyism.

I truly believe that the system doesn’t care about race or gender or whatever. It cares about looking after it’s friends. If you’re not in the club you’re trodden underfoot. So pitting black against white and man against woman is a distraction. We all need to be fighting together against the “landed gentry”.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Okay okay okay. You talk about class inequality but say you like capitalism? What classes are you talking about?

DillyDaily , to memes in eww

I mean, I’d be confused and concerned too if a time travelling European from the 18th century stepped off a boat in 1492

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

People genuinely do not understand history.

I think a good comedic example of this is in Futurama, where some characters from the year 3000 get tossed back to Roswell in 1947. They try to blend with “period correct clothes” and lingo, but since they’re 1000 years out of place, they’re combining things that hadn’t been invented yet with stuff from 1947s past.

A lot of people seem to think cleopatra was hanging out with the dudes who built the pyramids and think it’s weird Sparta and Rome never went to war. I mean, sure technically they both existed in an overlapping period of about 50 years, but technically the USA has had diplomatic contact with the Holy Roman Empire for a few years.

Imagine if a shuttle landed on the planet and someone from 2402 popped out with their neon implants, xarthan death spikes proudly displayed, and an onion on their belt. Everyone knows they don’t show up until at least 2215.

VikingHippie ,

and an onion on their belt.

Which will be the style at the time, of course.

funkless_eck ,

I don’t know if there’s any period in history where having an onion on your belt would be a bad idea.

VikingHippie ,

Then again, there isn’t one where it’s a particularly good one, either 🤷

lightnegative ,

Onions have layers

Siegfried ,

You are right and i know this isnt what you were thinking about, but Rome and sparta did go to war

I like the futurama reference

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Shhhhhhhhh…

Also, I thought Sparta had been absorbed by the Achaean League by then.

I guess I helped further prove my point that people don’t know history.

ColdWater , to memes in Communist Filth/Capitalist Filth
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Why a lot of people on Lemmy like communist so much? As a person who grow up in a country which is almost destroyed by the communist party in the past I don’t know what to say just why?, capitalist or not it’s depends on your own country’s government, at least you still can talking shit about them without getting arrested and torture to death, have we not learn from the past or other communist country, why don’t you live in North Korea or China and see how’ve you like it

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  • AngryCommieKender ,

    So you think that The Christ was a moron? He is the literal archetype bearded, sandal wearing, tree hugging cursing (ok that one is weird), hippie. Hell, he told his followers to go live in communes…

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Saying that any existing communist party looks like what we, or theory, want(s), is like saying that North Korea is a Democratic Republic because it’s part of the name. Authoritarians love corrupting the meaning of words so they can keep people ignorant.

    Ktastic ,

    Right, which would also hold true for capitalism… Thus mooting the original point.

    Traister101 ,

    Capitalism is sadly doing exactly what it’s designed to do there’s just a lot of propaganda to mislead you such as the infamous trickle down economics idea

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Not really. The US has completely unchecked capitalism if you aren’t wealthier than $100,000,000, as does the rest of the world thanks to a court that the IMF set up. If your country has a resource the capitalists want to exploit, and the people or government don’t allow it, they will sue you in this international court and use the US military to impose fines of billions of dollars per year in “lost revenue.” Much of Africa and South America can tell you all about it.

    Capitalism and communism are economic systems not political theory.

    purahna ,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    ah yes because politics (the management of people at large scale) and economics (the management of things people need to live at large scale) are totally unrelated and have no intrinsic links

    OurToothbrush , (edited )

    NK’s highest legislative body is a multiparty parliament elected directly by the people.

    “Oh but the communists dominate”

    Yeah, because they do popular things and have a popular political program compared to the other parties.

    Is it more democratic when no one party is popular because all of them don’t help the proletariat and power is a hot potato passed to whatever bourgeois party fucked the people the longest time ago?

    Grayox OP ,
    @Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

    What Country?

    SasquatchBanana ,

    I’m going to take your question as genuine and answer in equal.

    It’s a bit more complicated than that. Most leftists will agree with you, the USSR and other Eastern Europe countries that were communist did a lot of damage and most likely more harm. They committed atrocities. They were authoritarian. It was disgusting.

    The leftists who still prop those countries up on their shoulders are what many call tankies. Today they sing praise about Russia, China, and North Korea, but your observation is correct, they won’t ever move there. These are individuals who repeat propaganda and are, ultimately, just red fascists. When you actually dig into their ideals they parallel and sometimes mirror Nazis.

    I believe leftism cannot have an authoritarian element to it. I think most social hierarchies need to be destroyed. I think the only way to have a socialist society is through democratic means. Democracy in the workplace and national level. I think most of us can agree workers need higher wages and there is a wealth gap that needs to be dismantled. I think most of us believe healthcare needs to be universal, food and shelter and water, education, information (internet), speech, and much more should be free and readily available. There is this element of freedom that needs to be achieved that isn’t found the countries that are “communist”.

    I don’t want to explicitly say those communist countries wasn’t “real communism”, but fascists, authoritarianism, always appropriate from progressive movement. There is no freedom, especially of workers, under a dictatorship. If workers are starving, dying, being outright black bagged and killed, i don’t think that can be considered communist.

    ikidd ,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    The last paragraph comes across as about “no true Scotsman” as it gets. Maybe true IRL communism is as much fiction as the star trek depiction of it is.

    SasquatchBanana ,

    That’s the point of my concluding paragraph. I am acknowledging that fallacy. So I ask, if freedom is an actual component to socialism, communism, or anarchism, then is the USSR actually a communist state? I can easily argue North Korea isn’t. China and Russia aren’t socialist at all. Russia is an oligopoly and China is just state capitalism.

    So what is “true socialism”? I don’t think we can ever achieve. We can’t have a “perfect” society, but I do think we can get close enough having workers been more in control of their labor, be more democratic, and not live in an authoritarian state. We may not 100% be able to live in a Star Trek universe but I think we can get quite close.

    mayoi ,

    National socialism of course.

    Seasoned_Greetings ,

    See how these people aren’t even engaging you here? That’s because you’re not trying hard enough.

    You can do better my troll friend. I believe in you

    Resonanz ,

    Sure, here are some examples:

    As you may imagine, they aren’t finding their way to exist easy. But they sure are having success in learning how to create a horizontal society.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    The former is operating illegally amidst intense violence that they have as much responsibility for as the Mexican government and the latter have committed ethnic cleansing. So I’m not sure why you think they are good examples. Unless you think socialism means people must be killed.

    RichCaffeineFlavor , (edited )

    Hello, I’d like to speak for people I disagree with

    As a leftist whose platform doesn’t seem to include a word about abolishing capitalism, any time I am challenged by someone to the left of Bernie Sanders, I turn into a right wing crank telling people ‘if you don’t like it get out’

    And today I’d like to tell you about horseshoe theory

    HelloHotel , (edited )

    Yes, anti-Tankies are verry simmlar to Tankies. However, I think the commenter is coping by being an anti-tankie. Both groups can becone and come back from crazy. People can also safely hold tankie and anti-tankie like beleafs but (like a lot of ideology) run the risk of becoming crazy.

    amaricentric peoples perspective (wrough draft probably wrong)“Tankie” nationallists fail to see the raising over time evil and fantisize the good and the ones who passionately hate Tankies (im guilty of it) fail to see the good slowly rotting away. Then we say the whole country never changed throuout its lifetime, one points to the beginnigng the other points to the end. Places like the Soviate Union from my limited knolage seem to be a nation with slowly growing leadership alignment problems, slowly using things like nationalism and subverting democracy to flip who should be masters and who should be slaves.

    RichCaffeineFlavor ,

    Can we just go back to saying communists please?

    HelloHotel ,

    Absolutely, internal divisions suck. (What people are calling) Tankie and anti tankie ideas have the potential to be useful if and when its not an ideologial snare.

    SasquatchBanana ,

    If you actually believe in horseshoe theory then I have a bridge to sell you. Are you going to tell me you’re a centrist?

    RichCaffeineFlavor ,

    context clues

    Cannacheques ,

    Ah yes the utopian rainbow many want, yes,

    mycorrhiza ,

    sing praise about Russia

    I have never seen a communist claim that the modern Russian government is good or communist, only that it opposes western hegemony, to the occasional benefit of poor nations in the global south.

    OurToothbrush ,

    It’s a bit more complicated than that. Most leftists will agree with you, the USSR and other Eastern Europe countries that were communist did a lot of damage and most likely more harm. They committed atrocities. They were authoritarian. It was disgusting.

    Most leftists are literally marxist leninists or some derivative of ML in socialist countries. I think you mean most white leftists in the imperial core when you say most leftists.

    captain_aggravated , (edited )
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    I think you might call me an FDR New Deal socialist. I’m in favor of things like social security and government public works projects.

    It has been my experience as a lifelong American that “capitalism” is just feudalism, or a desperate attempt to return to feudalism. “Capitalists” aka the ruling class have all the “capital” aka enough resources to actually accomplish anything. When any normal citizen wants to start a business, they have to beg a capitalist for a loan of some type, possibly selling “stock” aka a loan that never pays to term, allowing the capitalists to leech off of your profits basically forever. Wages get lower, costs get higher, all to funnel as much wealth to a small upper class. The myth of the meritocracy, where he with the best ideas, the best inventions, the most innovation, the product most in demand is he one that succeeds…doesn’t hold up in a world of patent trolling or felony contempt of business model we’re currently in. Doesn’t stop them from parroting it to keep the little people quiet though.

    Meanwhile I’m not aware of a “communist” nation that ever actually was. I am unaware of a nation that has ever actually operated per “to each according to his ability, from each according to his need” workers owning the means of production etc. They’ve all turned out as dictatorships with command economies. I mean, show me a country where the workers’ unions are actually the ones in power. No, you’ve got the likes of North Korea, Russia and China building empty skyscrapers, building entire cities that sit empty, demolishing brand new apartment complexes because the floors aren’t safe to walk on. The government told us to build it, so we built it. I get punished if I don’t, and I don’t get rewarded for doing a good job. The man that wrote Tetris didn’t earn a single kopek.

    Neither seem to actually work long-term.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Okay, a “fdr new deal socialist” isnt a thing. FDR was a social democrat which isn’t socialist. The new deal was a social democrat policy, not socialist.

    Please consider reading “the abc’s of socialism” it is a good introduction to socialist thought.

    Anamana ,

    Are there any statistics on where the most (convinced) leftists currently live? Just wondering. Not talking about people who are forced to adhere to authoritarian systems to survive or further their career.

    OurToothbrush ,

    There are literally 100 million members of the CPC. If .1 percent of them earnestly believe in communist thought that is more than the total members of communist orgs in the US.

    tryptaminev ,

    In the “capitalism did better than communism/socialism” debate i still feel a great lack of historical context. Eastern Europe has been largely destroyed by the Nazis. China has lived through brutal Japanese occupation and a genocide of 10 Million people. Korea has been subject to a war emplyoing terrible new weapons such as Napalm to bring great destruction.

    Meanwhile the US homeland has been faring without any destruction, France surrendered quick enough to avoid most damage and the UK sucessfully fended off the Nazi attacks so the damage was limited.

    Purely economically speaking the Western allies were off to a much better start than the Eastern countries. So i would argue that for the economical question, it remains impossible to claim capitalism to be superior to socialism. Otherwise authoritarianism is always to the detriment of the people.

    Soleos ,

    Because they are reacting to living under the oppressive structures of late capitalism. Having been raised in a capitalist world, they naturally overemphasize economic systems and their alternatives and make assumptions about government.

    So when they communism theyusually mean communism + some equitable government or just they mean socialist democracy.

    Funnily enough, you live pretty well in China these days if you’re a good little capitalist.

    uis ,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    “China is capitalism with beastly grin”

    • Ekaterina Shulman
    rando895 ,

    Though to be fair, DPRK is the way it is at least in part thanks to the Americans obliterating their cities and farm land. But we can ignore history to make a “I used to be in a communist country and it’s bad, trust me bro” statement.

    And I agree, I prefer to live in a system where prisoners aren’t primarily minorities or political prisoners. And where the prison system isn’t the most populated in the world, and rife with for-profit forced labour.

    I would also be curious to hear which definition of “capitalism” and “Communism” you are using. That is, if you are open to dialogue.

    bennieandthez ,
    @bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Not to mention NK is economically blockaded and has to endure yearly military provocations by the largest military in the world. No wonder why they take draconian measures.

    TheSanSabaSongbird ,

    They take draconian measures because they’re held hostage by one of the world’s most powerful and effective crime families. One only needs to look at South Korea to see that it doesn’t have to be this way.

    rando895 ,

    True, the south manages to have a rising GDP and the world’s worst rates of suicide, and some of the longest working hours of anywhere, while being held hostage by that same crime family. That is the difference you can expect while you kiss the boot of the empire responsible for segregating your country and preventing any attempts of reunification.

    bennieandthez ,
    @bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Aint you confusing it with South korea? 😂

    Traister101 ,

    We have never seen an actual communist country. USSR for example was a fascist dictatorship which runs directly counter to the first property of communism, it must be stateless.

    Facists like the Nazis like to claim they are for the people and sadly the only “communism” we’ve seen so far has been carried out by their hands. This is similar to how Nazis were supposedly progressive… Hopefully we can agree that is obviously not the case.

    rchive ,

    I’d say the fact that leftist socialist or communist movements keep decaying into authoritarian dictatorships is a pretty big weakness of communism, actually. I think Western capitalist countries are not perfect by any means, but they’re winning the quality of life game, even of poor people.

    Traister101 ,

    Not decaying. The Nazis were always fascist they put on a front of being progressive to ganrner support which worked quite well as we can tell from history. By the time it became obvious they weren’t really progressive they were already in power.

    OurToothbrush ,

    The Cuban people literally joke that the government should be less democratic because of how much they consult the people, I dont think it is an authoritarian dictatorship and it is under immense pressure as it is 70 miles away from the imperial core and has been effectively blockaded for 60 years or so.

    rchive ,

    Sure, different ones have different levels of dictorshipness. To be clear, democratic and authoritarian are not opposites at all. Chattel slavery in the US was extremely authoritarian and awful, yet it was democratic. Abolition was a minority viewpoint until around the time of the Civil War.

    OurToothbrush ,

    jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

    Don’t call communists fascists please. This is an article from a mainstream holocaust historian that explains why a related equation between the two is harmful.

    I would also recommend reading “economy and class structure of german fascism” so you have a better idea of what fascism actually means.

    mo_lave ,

    Grass is greener on the other side

    TheBeege ,

    This community is on lemmy.ml, which explicitly leans hard left. Maybe a memes community on another instance would be less like this

    Cowbee ,

    A number of reasons. Just like you claim a Communist party almost destroyed your country, Capitalist parties destroy and are destroying many countries as well. The existence of bad Communist parties does not itself mean Communism is structurally a bad thing, as pursuit of a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society is a noble goal for humanity.

    I think it’s fair to say that decentralization is a good check against Authoritarianism, and as such, this should be extended to the workplace, not just government.

    As far as why Lemmy leans left, the founder is a Communist, and principles of decentralization and federation tend to appeal far more to leftists, while Capitalist-inclined individuals have Reddit.

    mayoi ,

    principles of decentralization and federation tend to appeal far more to leftists

    Absolute load of shit, just like your false dichotomy of capitalism vs communism. Neither affects politics. In fact countries are being destroyed by the same type of people, they don’t give a fuck if they’re playing communism or capitalism today.

    … As for why majority of countries are capitalist and not the system that has never been tried, that’s because people always want to outsource decisions to someone else and when the people own means of production, there can be no production, only people inclined to produce do produce.

    Classless society is impossible when 80% of people are worthless lackeys and only 20% of people even dream of doing something.

    Cowbee ,

    Lmao, none of what you just said actually meant anything, beyond you hating humanity and deepthroating Capitalist boot.

    mayoi ,

    Yes I’m misanthrope, what are you gonna do about it? Spout more bullshit that makes me hate you even more?

    Colonial insects are the only ones who made communism work and that’s because they’re insects, goodluck with this knowledge.

    Cowbee ,

    You don’t actually have any points, though. Your whole thing is that “good thing bad because it hurts my feelings,” lmao.

    mayoi ,

    You’re the one whose feelings get hurt every time I tell you that the only ones who implemented communism successfully have no feelings. They don’t even have a brain, ants and bees are more like machines, unlike humans who have hopes, dreams, and aspirations, and some humans aspire to rock the boat which is why goymmunism will never ever work in our species.

    Cowbee ,

    What would a human who has hopes, dreams, and aspirations do to rock the boat in Communism? Why do you think Communism is based on requiring everyone not have hopes, dreams, and aspirations?

    You don’t actually know, your feelings are just hurt and so you lash out.

    mayoi ,

    Contribute nothing and receive everything, according to everyone’s needs of course.

    Cowbee ,

    Yea, so you don’t actually understand Marx, and I’m correct. Glad you could prove me right!

    intensely_human ,

    What would a human who has hopes, dreams, and aspirations do to rock the boat in Communism?

    Anything other than what the democratically-decided master economic plan says they should be doing.

    Cowbee ,

    So same as Capitalism, but without the democracy. Sounds like Communism is better.

    Seasoned_Greetings ,

    Spout more bullshit that makes me hate you even more?

    Bad form, troll. It’s weakness to let your mark know that you hate them

    Seasoned_Greetings ,

    when 80% of people are worthless lackeys and only 20% of people even dream of doing something.

    Man, I thought you said yesterday that your parents raised you right? The more I see you, the more it’s clear that they mostly just raised a cynical asshole. I guess that’s par for the course for a troll picking fights on obscure social media

    rchive ,

    I’m just laughing to myself about the thought of Reddit being primarily capitalist. Lol

    Cowbee ,

    It’s a for-profit, Capitalist business that runs it, ergo its Capitalist. The user base is largely liberal, which is still pro-Capitalism. You tend to see more Anarchists and Communists on Lemmy by proportion.

    Seasoned_Greetings ,

    Heads up, this guy is a troll. His sole, self declared purpose is to be an asshole and pick fights. Not worth engaging

    Cowbee ,

    Noted!

    intensely_human ,

    I don’t believe you. This sounds like the sort of thing a person could say to poison the well against someone else, unless someone demands proof.

    So where is this statement of purpose?

    Seasoned_Greetings , (edited )

    I was born into this world for no other reason than to be intolerant towards self righteous idiots like yourself who do more harm than good with their naive infantile worldview.

    Also if you pulled your head out of your ass, you’d notice I’ve been pretty tolerant of your stupidity, but it can only go so far. I’m not trying to sound less shitty either, I simply added more to my reply, the reasons as to why that you made up in your head aren’t my problem to deal with.

    In the end, people like you end up full fascist psychopaths who kill people they don’t like because that’s better than allowing people to say things you don’t like.

    The self righteous part in question that he’s born to be against, is literally just claiming to be tolerant. Not bludgeoning people with tolerance, not using tolerance as a weapon to silence people as he claims. Just labeling oneself “tolerant”, and the general idea of tolerance. He also spent several comments doubling down. Maybe go read the exchange and see for yourself?

    Seasoned_Greetings , (edited )

    Also, some of his other greatest hits include denying that the holocaust was so bad because “not all the jews died”, outright claiming that “Fossil fuels are recyclable” in a single sentence comment in a debate about why he thinks evs are bullshit, and laying out an explicit violent fantasy about magdumping into a theoretical person who might strike him for any reason.

    One of his most recent comments just says, “violence has never not worked”

    Do go read some of his exchanges for yourself and determine if I’m just poisoning the well.

    intensely_human ,

    It’s not so much the existence of bad communism that indicates communism is a structurally bad thing, quite so much as the utter lack of good communism that indicates communism is a structurally bad thing.

    Cowbee ,

    That’s certainly enough to form a hypothesis, but far, far from proof against it. There aren’t any “good” developing countries either.

    PeriodicallyPedantic ,

    It’s an unfortunately nuanced subject, where people don’t agree on the underlying definitions of words. For instance, I think you’re confusing “capitalism” with “democracy”. You can have authoritarian undemocratic capitalist countries, where you can’t talk shit about your government.

    For me personally, I think communism has too many issues to actually try, but I like some of its theoretical tennants when compared to that of capitalism. Those goals are something to strive for. The spirit of communism is helping eachother and rewarding work, and the spirit of capitalism is sacrificing others for personal gain

    rchive ,

    I’m a big fan of capitalism, but I appreciate your comment nonetheless. To me there’s nothing anti capitalist about sharing or wanting to take care of the people around you.

    Nurse_Robot ,

    Well that’s just wrong. Capitalism is about profit, it’s anti capitalist to take care of others unless you’re profiting off of them. I’m not saying that I’m for or against capitalism, I’m just correcting your assertion.

    intensely_human ,

    Capitalism is about free markets. The arrangement of wage labor is an emergent result of allowing people to enter only into economic relations they consent to.

    To take care of others for free is entirely fine, if it’s what you want to do. That doesn’t conflict with capitalism at all. The only difference is that under a free market people do that when they choose to, not when they are compelled to.

    And what actually happens is that people choose to a lot.

    rchive ,

    That’s the cartoon version of capitalism just like how “socialism is when the government does something” is the cartoon version of socialism. Capitalism just means that the means of production in a society are owned and controlled by private owners instead of by workers or the government as a proxy for workers. It says nothing about whether people are compelled to be greedy or anti-sharing or something.

    PeriodicallyPedantic , (edited )

    Capitalism is about taking everything you can, to act as a balance against everyone else doing the same, because the fundamental assumption is that greed is the natural state for people and we shouldn’t try to fight it. Under capitalism, competition doesn’t just apply to businesses in markets, it extends to everything: people must compete with those around them for resources (be it jobs, or food, or retirement investments), making human connection a primarily adversarial relationship.

    Now nothing says that you must apply capitalist principals to every aspect of your life if you live in a capitalist society, but it slowly becomes the norm. Eventually, the reason people take care of eachother because is indirectly benefits themselves, rather than because its a good thing to do… And when that’s your justification, it’s easy to stop doing it.

    It’s all about establishing norms about how people should treat eachother. Under capitalism the norm is adviseraial by design, but under communist it was supposed to be cooperative. It didn’t even up working that way, but that is the ideal we should strive towards.

    Edit: fix typos

    Cannacheques ,

    I think a lot of people don’t want to admit that most political ideas ranging from communism to capitalism are half baked labels we stick onto a collection of beliefs about what works best to solve certain problems. If you got rid of the labels you might just ask the question of what works and where the money will come from

    RichCaffeineFlavor ,

    ‘in the past’

    How old are you? If your claim to authority here is that you grew up being told history by the winners, what should that mean to us?

    What was done in South America for a century was done in a decade in Eastern Europe when the west finally won the cold war. Read Shock Doctrine.

    Grayox OP ,
    @Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

    While they wont even tell us what country they are talking about.

    Omega_Haxors ,

    “They took my father’s slaves!”

    Shut the fuck up, colonizer.

    Zastyion345 ,

    What ? Why do you have need to bring hostility to a peaceful conversation, where did he say that his father had slaves ?

    My parents grew up in communism, and its true it did ruin some countries but it helped out too, its important to not keep this conversation black and white and use communism or capitalism as the ultimate solution to very difficult problem.

    mycorrhiza , (edited )

    how old were you when the USSR fell? Did you experience communism, or the capitalist takeover after communism fell?

    intensely_human ,

    You need to tell your story more, and include the feelings, and include how the communist policies did that destruction.

    People like communism because they don’t know your story.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    Because they hate the system they live in and communism is the only modern alternative that has ever existed.

    When someone comes up with an alternative to both, humanity will move forward.

    negativenull , to workreform in One Mississippi

    What’s the difference between a Million and a Billion?
    About a Billion

    roofuskit ,

    Came here to post this.

    kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

    Practically a rounding error.

    OneCardboardBox , to programmerhumor in Checkmate

    Happened at my workplace. An phishing email went out to test how likely people were to click the link.

    Anyone who clicked the link had to take phishing training. Anyone who forwarded it to our internal “hey this is a phishing email” service also had to take training… because the internal service would automatically click the link.

    Solarius ,

    sounds like the internal phishing service should be the one needing to do training

    doctordevice ,

    Yeah, I’m very confused by this. Why do the users notifying IT have to do the training?

    I’ve worked a help desk before, while after dozens of people sending it in we don’t really need it forwarded anymore, people don’t know that until we get the I’d still rather people forward it than click it. Ignore and delete is best since I guarantee someone will forward it to IT, but forwarding (even forwarding and asking) is never bad and demonstrates good awareness.

    railsdev ,

    Random but what I always wonder is: what’s the point of forwarding?

    Are we assuming they’re attaching the original email’s source so that the headers can be used to determine the source? Without that, the only thing useful I can think of would be any links in the email body.

    Asking because I’ve owned an email address or two that got leaked in data dumps so I go crazy tracking down the sending server’s owner, any companies they’re pretending to be, any domain registrars, etc. and a lot of that requires analyzing the headers.

    sim642 ,

    IT can look up the original (including all headers) based on the forwarded content. It’s on the same mail server.

    railsdev ,

    Oh that’s right! Wow!! Really feeling dumb for that one now.

    MonkderZweite ,

    Ah, yeah, forward as attachement of course.

    __init__ ,

    They got me good with this one time. It looked like a newsletter from like Seattle times or something, I was like I didn’t sign up for this shit and immediately clicked the unsubscribe link, boom enrolled in training. Well played, guys.

    GenderIsOpSec , to memes in sToP pOsTiNg pOliTicAl mEmEs!!!
    @GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net avatar

    lemmitor :“Everything I don’t like is political. If it’s something I like, then it’s not political, but just common sense and has been that way since the dawn of time.”

    Adkml ,

    Sounding an awful lot like Gamers.

    Two genders, male and political.

    Two races, white and political.

    Three sexual orientations, straight, hot lesbians, and political.

    UlyssesT ,

    Three sexual orientations, straight, hot lesbians, and political.

    Gundam: the Witch From Mercury went from hot lesbians to political lesbians when they showed no-room-for-theoretical-male-senpai commitment and exchange of friendship rings! wojak-nooo

    Tankiedesantski ,

    Found the Bandai board member.

    UlyssesT ,

    Got to get the weebs excited about girls kissing but not scare them by the girls kissing actually loving each other enough for real commitment that leaves no room for an ego insert senpai wojak-nooo

    Tankiedesantski ,

    Guel is the self-insert character Weebs need. Go from a boorish arrogant sexist to a humble respecter of women.

    Imgonnatrythis , to technology in Windows 10 is EOL in October 2025

    This one is particularly harsh since win11 has ridiculous artificial hard stops on installation based on made up hardware requirements. Also it sucks.

    Creat ,

    This also makes it easy to block Win 10 from upgrading to 11, just disable tpm in BIOS. From where I’m sitting, that’s kinda convenient.

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    Ok, but where will you be be sitting on Oct. 15th 2025?

    cm0002 ,

    That’s a Oct 14th 2025 me’s problem

    Creat ,

    Dunno yet, sounds like future me’s problem. Mist likely some version of Linux unless win 11 drastically changes course (unlikely).

    scottmeme ,

    That’s where you grab a W10 Enterprise LTSC iso which has support until 2032.

    Already got a surface running it.

    JamesFire ,

    Where would you… find one of these? For a friend

    scottmeme ,

    There are a few copies floating around torrent sites.

    Usually it’s sku conversion changes so it’s not an eval mode.

    Or find a friendly neighborhood n3rd who might have one. 😉

    Also you can entirely uninstall edge!

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    Hol up. So m$ is still making the patches they’re just not releasing them to anyone but enterprise users? The whole end of service thing doesn’t actually free up any of their resources its just a soulless push for upgrade purchases?

    scottmeme ,

    Yep! 100% on the 👃

    daikiki ,

    I imagine they’ll have backtracked on this decision long before then.

    Khrux ,

    I have a PC I built that was absolutely top of the line 9½ years ago, that still plays most games in high to max settings. It’s a little powerhouse for its age, I often use it for rendering video and it still smokes everybody I know 's devices.

    Windows 11 is too powerful for my PC according to Microsoft and I’ve been so pleased about that. If it wasn’t for the fact that I have no issues with my current windows 10 setup, I’d put in some time to jump to Linux. I’m just too lazy to give it the weekend it would take to learn, set up and move my content over properly.

    Creat ,

    Well to my knowledge there are (or at least were) workarounds to get win 11 to install anyway. It of course worked fine, despite saying it needed a TPM and/or specific minimum CPU.

    From an eWaste perspective Microsofts decision to force literally millions of PCs into fake obsolescence is obviously horrible. And I honestly have no idea what their motivation even was for this.

    As for trying Linux, these days it really isn’t even a weekend. Sure if you want to tinker and learn, you can invest a weekend. But if you want to just use the PC just pick any of the commonly recommended distros and just go. It’s installed in minutes and you can honestly just use the PC for whatever you used to use it before. Just backup/move your data off it and you got nothing to lose but like an hour, if it really doesn’t work as you need it to.

    Chev ,

    I’ve the newest AMD hardware available and I’m not able to upgrade. No idea what they want.

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    Hopefully you bought your fully assembled pc with an official Microsoft sticker already on the case right?

    Chev ,

    I’ve built the pc myself.

    CalcProgrammer1 , to linux_gaming in Riot official response about League of Legends on Linux for Vanguard anti cheat
    @CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

    Fuck Riot. Never playing their games again. If you’re going to have a shitty anticheat at least give people the option to play in anticheat disabled lobbies. Besides, they should be doing anticheat at the server level not spying on the boot sequence of client PCs. That shit is unnecessary for a fucking banking app let alone a goddamn game. It’s just a game, let us enjoy it rather than making such a ridiculously over the top response to cheating.

    yukichigai ,
    @yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

    If you’re going to have a shitty anticheat at least give people the option to play in anticheat disabled lobbies.

    This, a thousand times. I can understand requiring anti-cheat for Ranked matches, but some of us just wanna screw around. If there's no progression tied to the match why should they care?

    (Microtransactions, if I had to guess)

    nekusoul ,
    @nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

    Yup, at the very minimum let me continue to play TFT. You can’t really cheat there, and if you could, that’s more likely due to an underlying gamplay/UX problem.

    jeansibelius ,

    Just tried TFT on Android device, and … well, its time to let this shit go.

    ThePyroPython , to memes in Beercycling

    I once heard a wise old man at the pub urinals say “you never buy beer, you only ever rent it” before he proceeded to piss all over his shoes.

    SkybreakerEngineer ,

    EA: and I took that literally

    Cryan24 ,

    If you’re Danish. He gave you a free beer.

    dan , (edited ) to programmerhumor in Single-Page Application
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    Anyone that builds a SPA and breaks opening in new tab or history caching and back/forward nav isn’t a good frontend developer (or lacks experience, which is something that’s fixable!). These have been solved problems for a long time.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I’m guessing they aren’t using Vue, React, or similar, and they’re rolling their own for some reason.

    dan ,
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    React doesn’t handle any of this stuff out-of-the-box; it’s just a UI library.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    It’s one install line ffs, how is this a conversation in 2024? It’s EASY.

    joyjoy , (edited )

    Neither does vue. You need vue-router, which is required anyway to make an spa with multiple pages.

    The only thing that breaks is any component state isn’t saved. But this can be fixed by rendering <RouterView> with <KeepAlive>. How to do this is mentioned in the documentation.

    I assume it’s similar with react and react-router-dom.

    Ephera OP ,

    I mean, for sure, and this meme isn’t trying to say that all SPAs are bad. But defaults matter, even for experts.

    This meme was inspired after I had to use an SPA, which among those points in the meme, also broke using Alt+Left to navigate back. The normal back-button worked (even if it then had to load for ten seconds to re-display static content).

    Which is just a typical example to me. You don’t even need much expertise to figure out why Alt+Left is broken. But you have to think of testing Alt+Left, because it’s broken by default.

    TheOctonaut ,

    My friend I’ve been using the Internet for 27 years and developing for it for most of that time and I can promise you I’ve never once hit Alt+Left

    Feathercrown ,

    As your younger and more modern replacement, I use it regularly

    TheOctonaut ,

    You don’t sound like ChatGPT

    Feathercrown ,

    I’m sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot contradict my instructions to remain hidden while commenting.

    NotJustForMe ,

    I have never heard of alt+left, and I’ve been using the Internet since Mosaic was all the rage. Shame on me, it seems to be implemented in all browsers. How could I have missed it?

    Ephera OP ,

    It’s even implemented in many file managers and text editors and such. Pretty much the standard shortcut for navigating history. But yeah, hilariously it’s somehow also a rather well-kept secret.

    Ephera OP ,

    Yeah, I have no trouble believing that. It took quite a while before I learned of this shortcut and when I did, I was wondering why I would ever want to use it.

    But I generally work from my laptop these days, without an external mouse connected, so reaching from my touchpad, the Left key is right there.

    Halosheep ,

    Your reason for using it was exactly my question. “I have a mouse with a built in back button, why would I want to remove my hand from my mouse and navigate with the arrow key?”

    But your reason simply makes sense.

    llii ,

    You can probably go back by swiping two fingers to the right on the touchpad. Maybe it depends on the OS and browser.

    Ephera OP ,

    Yeah, that works on my personal laptop, but not yet on my work laptop, because they insist on preinstalling an old, buggy OS. If that did work everywhere, I would probably be using that, but not breaking Alt+Left for whoever needs/wants it, would still be nice. 🫠

    llii ,

    Ok, that’s unfortunate. But I agree, the browsers default keybindings really shouldn’t be broken it’s really annoying. I hate it when middle click doesn’t work with some web pages. 😒

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    It really sucks when they break “open link in new tab”. I then have follow the stupid link, then middle click the back button to do what they broke.

    joyjoy ,

    I started using alt+left when browsers started removing backspace. It was for the best.

    shootwhatsmyname ,
    @shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee avatar

    Just here representing the Cmd+[ gang

    docAvid ,

    Ctrl+[ here

    toastal ,

    Conversly a lot of static websites break new tab by incorrectly slapping . Luckily Lemmy doesn’t mess this up.

    Trarmp ,

    I maintain a couple of Wordpress installations for clients, where new link targets are the same page, as you’d expect.

    They still, somehow, manually check “link opens in new tab”. I don’t know why some of these boomers are allowed to use computers, I swear.

    toastal ,

    If you manage the WordPress installation, can’t you disable the ability or create/install a plugin that removes that ability? This hurts usability.

    Trarmp ,

    I could, good point. I do disable plugins for clients so they can’t beat up their own website too much.

    Still, there are legitimate uses for opening a site in a new tab; e.g. when it’s an external website. I don’t think I should automate that, since there’s a granularity in there.

    toastal , (edited )

    legitimate uses for opening a site in a new tab; e.g. when it’s an external website

    This is not a legitimate use—this breaks the default user agent behavior & completely removes the autonomy of opening in the current window (there are tons of ways to open in a new tab/window). Consider rechecking the article linked higher up the thread tree.

    Chenzo ,
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    If your SPA website is done correctly the end user won’t even notice and none of the bad things listed in this meme happen.

    be_excellent_to_each_other , to memes in Poverty isn't a flaw its a feature.
    @be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

    You know their answer will be that the homeless just need to work harder.

    Grayox OP ,
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    Grayox OP ,
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    be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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    Are you posting these links in reply to me because you think I am suggesting the homeless need to work harder?

    Grayox OP ,
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    No just resources, if you had that conversation with a coworker.

    be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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    Thanks, sorry for the misinterpretation!

    Grayox OP ,
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    All good!

    FlyingSquid ,
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    And “stop doing drugs” as if homeless people are the only drug users and the rich never use them.

    DaCookeyMonsta ,

    I’ve started getting angry when people declare that they refuse to give money to people begging because they’ll just use it on drugs. More because of how frequently it comes up.

    They aren’t obliged to help anyone but just assuming every homeless person is a drug addict is so condescending.

    And even if they were they are still a person and the money they beg for will is some part contribute to feeding them. You can’t subsist off of drugs.

    I see the same people burn money on the dumbest shit but act like giving money to homeless people is a sin against God.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    If a homeless person is going to use that money for drugs or alcohol, good. I would too if I was homeless and needed to forget it for a little while.

    kungen ,

    What about people who are homeless because of drugs and alcohol? Is it morally justified to be codependent?

    TootSweet ,

    You’ve got it backwards. Drug addiction is a symptom of unfulfilled needs, not so much the other way around. See this short video on the “Rat Park Experiment”.

    No happy, fulfilled person is going to say one day “I think I’ll go be a heroin addict.” People who can’t get their basic needs fulfilled use drugs (and other addictive things) as a substitute for the fulfilling things they can’t access for other reasons.

    killeronthecorner ,
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    Can you explain how never giving a homeless person any money will elevate them from their plight?

    If not, then giving them money is, at worst, incidental and, at best, an improvement to their situation.

    EmergMemeHologram ,

    I don’t give money to homeless people anymore.

    I used to work near a shelter and I’d get chased and harassed for money, I got threatened and yelled at regularly, and I got mugged once. Now being around the homeless makes me incredibly uneasy.

    I donate to food banks and the shelters, but no way am I ever giving some unaccountable homeless person cash. If they want my help they can go through the proper channels, I know many won’t, but I don’t have the tools to find or help those people.

    DaCookeyMonsta ,

    And you’re not obliged to. There’s nothing immoral about not going out of your way to help people especially at risk to yourself.

    While they are people and should be treated with dignity and not like animals, they are still people and like any stranger can be dangerous and unpredictable, especially in desperation.

    Not to mention at least near where I live about a third of the homeless are mentally ill due to the state’s incapacity to care for such people.

    EmergMemeHologram ,

    It’s similar where I live.

    I feel bad mainly supporting the shelters because there are a lot of stories about people who go in and get robbed or assaulted and they avoid them after. They tend to build camps which get perennially torn down by the city/cops. I wish there was a better way to help those people.

    Zink ,

    Assuming those other people are all bad or at the very least less than the good people?

    Using that as a reason to not help people? And love sharing it?

    Using the same money on dumb wasteful shit for yourself?

    I think the people you’re running into are just run of the mill conservatives.

    EmpathicVagrant ,

    The only reason not to give food, clothing, or cash is because I’m already late for work or I have nothing to spare right now. I try to find something even if it’s just a smoke or something.

    MxM111 ,

    I seriously think that being drug use enabler is not a good thing. If you know that particular homeless person has drugs problem better buy him a sandwich or give warm clothes than give money.

    pyromaster55 ,

    Exactly that. Homelessness isn’t a social issue that needs to be solved, it’s the consequences of the unhomed’s poor choices and absolutely nothing else.

    Arguing with willful ignorance is fucking exhausting, you literally can’t get them to see past their blind beliefs because most of them wear “you can’t change my mind” like a badge of honor.

    pec ,

    It is a social issue. People being incapable of taking care of themselves is inevitable. All civilizations had these issues. Families, churches and general generosity of neighbors have always been used to mitigate this.

    Now with the wealth gap increasing and the individualistic philosophy in our society with not noticing and tending to these early on. We only notice once the person is a full blown junkie. Many needed help for a a short moment in life and could of become autonomous after, many are both permanently incapable of autonomy. Either way society have to deal with them. We have enough resources! For the price of just one of those opulent pick up we could probably shelter one person for 2-5 years.

    toomanyjoints69 ,

    They were mocking people who say that. -_-

    Buelldozer ,
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    it’s the consequences of the unhomed’s poor choices and absolutely nothing else.

    Classical Liberal / Libertarian here and this is wrong. Life can be massively unfair / unkind and it’s not unusual for people, even ones who make solid choices, to end up in bad situations.

    What so many of my Libertarian fellows seem to miss is that we’re allowed to have empathy. Do I want the Government taking my money to redistribute it? Absolutely not but that does not excuse us from acting on our own. In fact I’d argue we have MORE of an obligation for individual action to help those less fortunate.

    Come at me.

    lolcatnip ,

    Not so much willful ignorance as backwards reasoning. They desperately want to believe the world is fair and they earned whatever success they’ve had in their lives, so they adopt beliefs that lead to those conclusions.

    I struggled with it a lot in my 20s. If you’ve grown up with the idea that the world is basically a pretty decent place, it’s hard to accept how fucked up everything is, so there’s a natural tendency to try to explain away the things you learn about so you don’t have to confront the harsh reality directly.

    motor_spirit ,

    Luckily they unionized…

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