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Fuck_u_spez_ , to reddit in ...

This is why I finally left, because the asshole started removing his volunteer moderators and replacing them with employees for the crime of protesting his lies and slander of app developers who brought in hundreds of thousands of users, many of whom are now reading this comment because they’re no longer on that sinking ship of a site.

Fuck spez.

MenacingPerson ,

your username is Fuck spez.

Spez lives in your head rent-free.

you need to do something more productive than bitching on about some idiots who run a website to earn money

KeenFlame ,

Him living rent free in his head is living rent free in your head broski. fuck that, you should pay him rent for his living rent free experience living in your head

Syndic ,

Well if you say so, MenacingPerson.

niktemadur ,

Menace lives rent-free in his head?

Fuck_u_spez_ ,

Oh my god you’re right, this is all I do. I have no job, no home, no friends, no family, nothing but this account and this app and my anger towards one person I’ve never met. Right.

nac82 ,

You spent all this time writing this because his comment is living rent free in your head lmao. At least he is raging against a billionaire, you’re raging against a lemmy comment lmao

doyadig ,

How does it feel letting someone live inside your head 24/7 without charging for their stay?

Asafum ,

Reddit is fun user here, exactly. I left the moment I read about the API bullshit.

Ohi ,

Yup, same. RIF app was how I loved browsing reddit, and it shutting down over the API cost was devastating. Add in the forced removal of mods who didn’t re-open their communities that were protesting was the final nail in the coffin for me. Fuck their IPO.

Signtist , to memes in The "Left"

To be fair, as a democrat, I generally view conservative voters as easily-misled people - essentially “dumb,” I view conservative leaders as thugs trying to overthrow America, and I view conservative corporate heads as ruling class elites. When you’re using such an overarching term as “Conservative” or “Left” it comes with the unsaid caveat that there are many subgroups that can differ greatly from one another.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

I don’t know how anyone wants to self identify as a conservative whose platform is currently:

  1. The dumbest with Donald Trump slurring and stumbling over his speeches
  2. The thugs trying to overthrow America with “Project 2025”, war on WOKENESS, book burning and being anti-choice
  3. The constant meddling of oil companies, cable companies, news companies into what information we get - along with dark money getting funneled to politicians to suddenly say moronic shit like “we can’t take gov money to feed school children”
Asafum ,

Because of propaganda.

  1. A Self-made Business Man™ is miles better than Bumbling Biden the fascist communist.
  2. WOKENESS IS KILLING AMERICA. Books brainwash you into being woke. Project 2025 will save us from woke.
  3. Thats the liberal media, “my guys” are normal working men, they wear plaid shirts sometimes and pose for pictures in a workshop.

No I don’t actually believe any of that, but that’s your list in conservative language served to the masses by your friendly thousands of miles away neighborhood newscaster propagandist.

Signtist ,

The conservative voters I know all stand for one thing: stubbornness. They make a decision to do something, they do it until they die, and they take great pride in doing so.

It’s essentially vikings if, instead of needing to die in battle to get to Valhalla, you needed to die of an easily-preventable disease because you never got that weird lump checked out, because if you’d admitted you had a problem you’d be weak, which is worse than death.

NegativeInf ,

A Viking on Every Hill.

Katana314 ,

“Shouldn’t you be trying harder to convince me?” is the new “You should smile more.”

pingveno ,

Now you’re reminding me of my uncle and his multiple hernias. He waited for years to get them taken care of because he didn’t want to have to deal with the recovery time.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

I live in a very conservative neighborhood and can say that stubbornness seems to play a huge, huge part of it. But I also wouldn’t discount the insecurity that plays into a lot of conservative men as well. The kind that buys huge trucks, just to commute to an office job. The kind that tries overly hard to impress you in weird “manly” ways, like always having a beer in their hand when they know you’re coming over for something.

Basically half the guys around here are either stubborn dickheads who do things like refuse to tell their wives when they’re going out of town for work - and the other half are dudes constantly trying to validate their manhood by projecting a flimsy aura of toughness. Frankly, it’s exhausting.

marx2k ,

dickheads who do things like refuse to tell their wives when they’re going out of town for work

lol wait what?

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sorry, that was a very personal reference to a neighbor of mine. He does it all the time, so she’ll do stuff like make dinner and then he just doesn’t come home. When she texts him to find out if he’s working late, he’ll be like “I had to fly to Montana for work.”

He’s the most stereotypical stubborn Republican that I can imagine. He considers himself a libertarian because he doesn’t want to pay taxes for pesky things like roads and schools. But he also has very strong feelings that women shouldn’t be able to get abortions, which shouldn’t really jive with the small government thing. He’s a solid red voter down ballot every election.

marx2k ,

This reminds me of a coworker I had who used to call the Department of natural resources and try to convince the poor clerk that he shouldn’t have to pay for a fishing license for him and his wife because gay people have the right to get married. I still don’t understand the logic on that but that’s what I overheard.

He then went on to attempt to abduct the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

He then went on to attempt to abduct the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.

Well that certainly took an abrupt, if not entirely unexpected, turn.

marx2k ,

Trust me, it did for everyone that worked with the guy.

Schadrach ,

like always having a beer in their hand when they know you’re coming over for something.

I mean, there’s an alternate explanation for this one - it’s not only when they know you’re coming over, they just have a problem.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah. I have friends that are alcoholics and this guy ain’t one. But a beer in his hand and a giant truck in the driveway might make you think he’s a blue collar bad ass instead of a skinny nerdy engineer.

ohlaph ,

Oh, they just relate to the poor speech, lack of coherent sentences, and overwhelming pride.

They just shout “one of us, one of us” a bit louder with each misstep.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

Yeah. The leadership is #2 and #3 while the rank-and-file are #1.

______ , to programmerhumor in Voice comments

I hate it

Finite ,

But all the extroverted programmers will love it

nickwitha_k ,

Semi-extroverted programmer here. While I can see how this might be useful in a world where programming is a multimedia craft, if I can’t open it in plain vi, keep it the fuck out of my source code.

riodoro1 , to memes in He is a broken man

Haha, useless plastic waste that only accelerates our demise.

staticblanket ,

Useless and toxic! Put 'em in your ice cubes!

autokludge ,
@autokludge@programming.dev avatar

macroplastics

ccdfa ,

And this is what Americans hide in their galette des rois lmao

bernieecclestoned ,

Bit dramatic

PissinSelfNdriveway ,

Like most of the fuckwits on here. How dare someone have fun, rabble rabble, politics Post, rabble. This place is getting as bad as reddit with these useless cunts.

SomeAmateur ,

Redditors already had a general smugness because they weren’t like other social media sites. Now they are not like other smug social media site alternatives.

If you don’t see stuff you disagree with now and then you’re living in an echo chamber, and holy shit some people are really are getting high on their own supply here.

Rodeo ,

The other side of the coin is people like you going “how dare someone have criticism, rabble rabble, if you don’t like everything all the time you’re a cunt!”

Criticism is okay.

SnotFlickerman , to nostupidquestions in I like this text. In which Lemmy community can I best share it ? Thanks.
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If this text doesn’t get replicated on the internet forever, it’s a failure of a meme.

daltotron ,

Do we consider the text to be the words on the screen or the ideas within the text itself? As a kind of reaction to a current state of affairs, I wouldn’t be surprised if the core idea of this text is thought up by someone every couple days at least, if only in passing. As long as the conditions which brought this meme about in the first place are sustained, it basically can’t die. I’d say, in that sense, this meme could only be considered successful if it doesn’t get replicated forever, it could only be successful if it dies.

lvxferre ,

What a bloody great comment.

And yes, what matters is the discourse (the ideas within the text), not the utterance used to convey said discourse (the words on the screen).

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Classically, the meme would be the semantic content in this context or a derivative one (unless we consider this text itself to be derivative). It might re-emerge periodically, but some degree of contextual integrity would be necessary for it to be considered the same meme.

milicent_bystandr ,

Don’t worry, we’re never gonna give it up.

AlolanYoda ,

Trust me. We’re never gonna let you down.

rowrowrowyourboat , to memes in When you are privileged equality looks like a downgrade.

Yes, let’s fight prejudice by stereotyping a whole race, gender, and sexual orientation…

Wogi ,

No no we don’t have to stereotype anyone.

Let’s just go straight to hunting them for sport

Anticorp ,

It’s concerning how much support these types of statements get.

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.”

–Dr. Martin Luther King Junior

Jtotheb ,

MLK Jr., famous for talking about how much he loves white moderates right

nomous ,

MLK Jr, the guy that has that one quote about white moderates that gets paraded around constantly while 90% of his other words are completely ignored.

Jtotheb ,

Good to see the true feelings of this community reflected in such quick fashion. ‘That one quote’ is a pretty lengthy diatribe, and it’s far from his only time. But the sick comeback makes white moderates feel better about themselves

banneryear1868 ,

He never stereotyped whites as a distinct singular identity that I can recall, it was always about their relation to maintaining inequality. One of his most impactful actions was convincing white and black unions to strike together, and that the fight for jobs and equality was one poor whites and blacks needed to share. In “The Other America” he constantly references poor white populations who share in the struggle.

MLK Jr never divided people by race like this, he thought that was one of the Three Evils plaguing American society.

exocrinous ,

“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn."

  • Dr. Martin Luther King Junior
GeneralVincent ,

“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to re-educate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn.”

“The problems of racial injustice and economic injustice cannot be solved without a radical redistribution of political and economic power.”

“First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”.”

–Dr. Martin Luther King Junior

swag_money ,

oh god this feels like Reddit all over again. they’re not hunting you! i promise

Wogi ,

I very frequently find that very few people here grasp the concept of humor in any measurable way.

psud ,

The men who are worried about being hunted for sport have been told too many times that that’s what should happen to them

Jknaraa ,

Or they just read forums like this.

InputZero ,

I mean, if it did happen, would that be the worst thing?

Ookami38 ,

Yes. It would be absolutely disgusting.

AVincentInSpace ,

“Yeah but they’re assholes, so it’s okay to actually murder them”

PeleSpirit , to technology in I asked leonardo.ai to generate an image of itself. This is what it gave me.

That’s actually kind of deep. It’s built off of mostly white male info and has unclear blocks of information that kind of resembles a white human male but is obviously not fully fleshed out.

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

I mean the name is literally Leonardo, referencing Leonardo da Vinci, I’m not sure what you expect…?

dmmeyournudes ,

Clearly it should have drawn Mr Miyagi.

demlet ,

Well not someone who looks Italian, that’s for sure.

honeynut , to memes in Remember me comrades!

1462 points 3 years ago

reddit will delete this comment cuz they’re controlled by China but fuck the CCP!!!

same energy

facow ,
@facow@hexbear.net avatar

Great username ypg-brace

QuietCupcake ,
@QuietCupcake@hexbear.net avatar

What Trueanon episode do I need to listen to to understand this reference?

facow ,
@facow@hexbear.net avatar
PipedLinkBot ,

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QuietCupcake ,
@QuietCupcake@hexbear.net avatar
Eatspancakes84 , to memes in Math

Many issues with this headline, but one of them is the word journalist, which implies some form of neutrality. The headline should either be a L out a journalist that writes about antifa, or a pro-facism activist. I suspect from the context (Fox) that it’s the latter.

Lianodel ,

I believe that’s Andy Ngo, so yes, absolutely a pro-fascist activist. He was caught on camera actively coordinating with Patriot Prayer, a far-right extremist group.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

journalist, which implies some form of neutrality

Oh, my sweet summer child

nxdefiant ,

if they’re not neutral, they’re not journalists. A fascist journalist is just a fascist after all.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

The vast majority of journalists work for some sort of publication or news agency, in which they’re beholden to the company owners’ agenda and have to report to an editorial board, which decides what can and can not be published in accordance with their views.

You’re thinking of independent journalists, of which there are very few.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

And even them have their own biases, no such thing as unbiased journalism.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

True, but not for the reasons that most people think.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

Ok, the fact that you honestly believe this is how legitimate newsrooms work is both deeply disheartening and an indication of how little the average person knows about the news business.

Editors decide what gets published, not the editorial board which is an entirely different and unrelated body that traditionally has zero contact with the content side of things. In the business we say that there is a “firewall” between the editorial board and actual news content. The NYT or WaPo would have mass resignations of their reporters if either of their editorial boards tried to influence content.

Ownership is a bit different and obviously --as we know from the Murdoch empire-- can influence content, but in traditional operations they’ve always been very hands-off. It’s a fact, for example, that Jeff Bezos doesn’t care what the WaPo publishes and has no interest in it beyond as a business concern.

Editors do have control over content, but overwhelmingly they are concerned with doing a good job and furthering their careers and professional reputations. You’re completely misunderstanding the incentive structure in mainstream news media. Outside of the extremist advocacy journalism ecosystems --mostly but not only on the far right-- no one has any incentive to push an agenda and risk ruining their career by getting something important wrong.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Ah yes, it’s only the evil right wing news outlets that have issues with transparency and corruption, but don’t worry, all the left wing ones are totally honest.

And all billionaires are evil exploiters… unless they own liberal newspapers, then they’re totally ethical and there is no grounds for concern.

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

In an ideal world you’d be right

In reality that’s not actually a requirement to be one

nxdefiant ,

Fair point. It sucks, but it’s true.

JasonDJ ,

Everybody has some sort of bias towards something. It’s ultimately just an opinion.

Journalistic integrity isn’t about being non-biased, it’s about being upfront about bias and ideally the journalist actively trying to counter their own bias within their work.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

Unfortunately advocacy journalism is very much a legitimate type of journalism, just ask Glen Greenwald, who I fuckin’ hate.

foggy , to memes in All Cats Are Beautiful

When I was born in the 80s, police drove 1982 Crown Victoria’s with a turbo.

When I graduated high school in the 2000s, they drove 1982 crown Victoria’s with a turbo.

Then, sometime during the Iraq war, these motherfuckers started getting brand fucking new Ford explorers, Ford f150s… Every couple years.

Of course we fucking hate you, stop stealing our money for toys you don’t need. Why don’t you tell us about the new array of artillery in the trunk?

ImplyingImplications ,

My local force recently bought a used armoured personnel carrier (APC) for $100,000 which didn’t go over well with the community. They posted a message explaining they were coming up on fiscal year end and had excess budget they wanted to use up so their budget wouldn’t be reduced next year. That didn’t really help.

It’s mostly used to park next to public events. Arts in the Park? Don’t worry! We got an APC here to protect you! Weekly farmers market? Don’t worry! The APC is here! Sometimes the emergency response team (our version of swat) will also put out a table with all their rifles and gear so they can look cool in front of any teenagers in attendance. It’s weird.

Liz ,

There are way better things to spend your money on so that your budget doesn’t shrink next year. Arguments of whether they need they money or not aside, that’s a real problem for them. Ideas off the top of my head that probably wouldn’t signal to the town that they’re under occupation:

• Ammo and range time • Conflict management training • Public relations block party • Solar panels on the roof • Diet, exercise, and lifestyle training • Law review classes

XeroxCool ,

“we have to irresponsibly spend the remainder of our budget so it doesn’t get reduced next year” followed one month later by “we need more money because we maxed out the budget last year”

Fuck this atrocious cycle. It’s everywhere. Military, police, any other government branch, corporate politics, 501c orgs pretending to be charities… The greatest crime is stockpiling unsent capital, apparently.

Bathtubwalrus ,

Dude, the cops in my town of 25,000 got a fucking TANK. Why the fuck do we need a tank??

foggy ,

🤖 DO YOU FEEL SAFE 🤖

Y = YES

N= NO

AstralPath ,

Your town likely doesn’t need a tank, but the major metro area within range of that tank is gonna need to call upon it next time the cops decide to kneel on someone’s neck.

HawlSera ,

Defund the police, give the money to social workers

flicker , to memes in Happy Holidays

I'm white. I have blue eyes. And when I was young, my hair was red. I was working retail, and this old lady said "Merry Christmas."

Me: "Happy Holidays!"

Her: "It's Merry Christmas. I know your boss doesn't like it, but you should say it to me. So Merry Christmas."

Me: "Are you Christian?"

Her: "Yes."

Me: "Well, I'm not. So Happy Holidays."

She got so stunned, like I'd slapped her. I was quite ready to get called in for being some kind of way with a customer but I guess she was too afraid of dealing with a heathen. Still, if you've ever worked retail, you'd know why this felt like a victory.

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Hopefully you’re young enough that you didn’t have to deal with the christmas cd on repeat

Kecessa ,

Young enough? You realise that’s still what they play in stores where people work retail?

Rodeo , (edited )

Well they don’t have CDs anymore, so how would they repeat the music?

Good grief, did this really need a /s?

Kecessa ,

Playlists?

Honytawk ,

The radio does the exact same thing.

pantherfarber ,

There’s like 10 Christmas songs. All of them have hundreds of different versions. Doesn’t matter if your not hearing the exact same song. Your hearing the same songs on repeat. My last retail job the muzak box was accessible to everyone in the office so as soon as I would get there I would change the channel.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I worked in a video arcade in the 90s and we had a 1-hour VHS tape on repeat showing on TVs all over the arcade featuring recent music videos, cartoons, etc. That Christmas, ‘All I Want For Christmas Is You’ came out and it was on that tape. I heard that song every day of December, 8 times a day, 40 times a week, 160 times that month in total.

I hate that song so much more than everyone else does.

Mr_Blott ,

Still, if you’ve ever worked retail, you’d know why this felt like a victory.

No idea mate, worked in retail for decades and no idea what you’re on about. But then I never lived in a country full of mentally ill people 😂

ChewTiger ,

Yeah, I don’t think “mentally ill people” only exist in specific places or that specific areas are “full” of them. I mean, I know for sure at least one deranged person lives in your area.

Also I highly doubt you truly worked in retail if you never experienced a customer like this. If you did, you must have been lucky and in an extremely high end store.

People are the same everywhere in the world, no better or worse than anywhere else. Which is kinda great IMO.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted ,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I currently work in retail and OH MY GODS I FELT THE

T R I U M P H

THROUGH MY PHONE.

famousringo ,

Wish them a joyous Yuletide. A cheerful solstice. A felicitous December.

Annoyed_Crabby , to piracy in Deploy the crack

Where we from, we deploy the keygen with sick background music.

Jerkface ,

128th note arpeggios are dope AF.

LemmyFeed ,

Love those banging 8bit tracks. But the cynic in me thinks it’s all some distraction so you leave the app running longer so it can install its malicious payload or something.

SkaveRat ,

Worth it

Cinner Bot ,

nah, the payload executes at the exact same time as the bound keygen. by the time you hear the music it’s done the dirty work.

kambusha , to memes in How often had I overlooked women's contributions ?
ItsAFake ,

It’s under the sauce.

Aquilae , (edited )
@Aquilae@hexbear.net avatar

The comrades we made along the way ✌️😔

OozingPositron ,
@OozingPositron@feddit.cl avatar

No meme, only bait.

FartsWithAnAccent , to memes in Paying for free software
@FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social avatar

Booo! Use Calvin & Hobbes instead of this fascist shitstain.

GravitySpoiled OP ,

Show me the meme generator I can use for that and I’ll do it

Yondoza ,
Freesoftwareenjoyer ,

Absolutely proprietary.

ChillPenguin ,

imgflip.com/…/Calvin--Hobbes-change-my-mind

Here you go sir. Just for future reference.

frankenswine ,

@GravitySpoiled you could edit the OP and replace the image

GravitySpoiled OP ,

Thx but I shouldn’t. It wouldn’t have all those downvotes

AceFuzzLord ,

So, I’m pretty much always out of the loop. What the hell did this guy do to get that label?

mindbleach ,

He’s a right-wing podcaster and meatspace video troll.

His sole piece of merchandise reads “Socialism is for F*gs.” Verbatim.

He claims it says “figs.”

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.world avatar

Ooooh boy… This is Steven Crowder. Not only has he shown multiple times to hold far right views and platforming people who identify as white supremacists (most notably Stefan Malynuex and the guy who founded the proud boys) he has also been shown on camera abusing his wife.

He is anti-semitic, anti-abortion, anti-divorce (specifically so he can control his wife more), and very pro-gun and pro-white people.

Other than that he’s just another great example of a failed entertainer turning to the right wing griftiverse in order to make money.

What a fucking loser…

FlyingSquid , to memes in Everytime
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My daughter was so bullied, we had to pull her out of public school and put her in online school. The school did virtually nothing about it no matter how much we pleaded with them. Even when a girl doxxed her and started prank calling her the school gave both her and my daughter a talking to as if it was my daughter’s fault and that was it.

cristalcommons ,

that’s horrible, pal, i’m so sorry :'( how is she doing now, if you want to share?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

She’s still not great, but it’s only been a couple of weeks. She needs time to heal. She’s not going back to a public school until next year at the earliest, and not that school. Unfortunately, I had to quit my job to help her with her online classes, but we’ll manage.

SuddenDownpour ,

You’re a great parent. I wish you strength.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I hope both of you are good. It is really sad to see something like this happen.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. She’s not great yet, but she’ll get better. I have my own problems.

GreenMario ,

Teachers play favorites and they always loved the psychopaths.

Wandering_Uncertainty ,

You might have had bad teachers and bad admin, true - but more likely, the school can’t do anything.

I’m a teacher, and I cannot tell you how incredibly frustrated I am at how tied my hands are. The admin can’t do much, either.

My options: talk sternly to the student. Talk sternly to the parent/guardians. And… that’s it.

Send them to the office? Sure. The principal also has those two options, for the most part. Suspending students is something we only do in very rare circumstances, but they really, really try to avoid it, because so often, kids are acting out because of stuff at home, so suspending them only makes the behaviour worse.

We can’t do detentions after school or on weekends - we can’t force parents to bring their kids in then. Lunch hour detentions, we can’t afford dedicated staff to run them, especially since we’d also need them to chase the students down, because it’s not like they’ll go just because they were told to. We can’t fail students any more.

Our district has also even gotten rid of prizes for achievements - no more honor roll, no awards, nothing. Apparently this makes the low performers feel bad, and we couldn’t have that.

And talking to the parents? Most parents are honestly great, but also, I never talk to them, because the kids with the great parents, I never need to call home. The asshole kids? Their parents are almost always a nightmare. And it’s a waste of time to talk to them.

One kid last year, went after another kid’s field trip paperwork with a pair of scissors. Ripped into her like no one’s business. Sent an email home describing the situation. I was pretty sure, based on her history, she wasn’t really going to destroy his stuff, she was trying to get a rise out of him, so I said something like, “while I believe she was only intending to annoy him, not actually destroy property, it is critical for her to understand that this is absolutely unacceptable behaviour” or something like that.

So rather than telling her kid off, mom goes to the principal to try to get me in trouble for calling her kid annoying.

In application? Doesn’t matter what the teachers or even admin want to do. The district, province/state, and country have taken away practically every carrot and stick, when it comes to students with extreme behavior.

It’s a huge mess.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I can understand all of that, but when one kid doxxes another and starts making prank calls, which we provided evidence of- we had logs and voicemails- and the administration admonishes both kids, that’s on them, not on anyone else. They didn’t have to lecture my daughter about bullying the other girl when she was the one being attacked.

Wandering_Uncertainty ,

In that case, yeah, you’ve got an admin problem. I’m sorry - that really sucks. The entire system desperately needs an overhaul. The education system in Canada is a dumpster fire, and the US is even worse. Dealing with behavioral issues is one of many major problems…

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. At least we have a solution, even if that solution involves me quitting my job. She’s more important than my job anyway.

DarkenLM ,

If your daughter was doxxed, can't you file a criminal complaint directly with the police? At least where I live, it would be grounds for a criminal investigation.

FlyingSquid ,
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People have tried many times and it never works. Not in the U.S.

See here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing#United_States

DarkenLM ,

Damn, that's a shame. He in the EU, there's tons of laws that can be used on cases like that, and many times, they are and work.

Hope things get better for you in the future.

FlyingSquid ,
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Thanks.

IHadTwoCows ,

The EU is a civilized first world society, unlike the US

ArmokGoB ,

Send them to the office? Sure. The principal also has those two options, for the most part. Suspending students is something we only do in very rare circumstances, but they really, really try to avoid it, because so often, kids are acting out because of stuff at home, so suspending them only makes the behaviour worse.

As someone who was bullied all the way until the start of high school, I would probably look the other way if my hypothetical children seriously hurt someone over repeated bullying. I think any alternative is better than that for everyone involved.

terminhell ,

I had an unusual lesson from my parents regarding bullies. They told me, that if they found out that the I didn’t even try defending myself from bullies and found out, I’d still get whooped at home. It seems kinda cruel at surface level. But when the time ultimately came, dam straight I fought back tooth and nail. And no, they were not abusive in any way. Even reflecting back as an almost 40yr old adult. They were both prison guards/swat people. So they had a very different perspective of bullying I guess.

FreshLight ,

put her in online school

the school did virtually nothing

uis ,
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Another school, obviously

radioactiveradio ,

My bully flicked an ink refill at my face, went into my eyes, and right in front of the teacher. I punched him, was taken to the principal and he made me APOLOGISE TO THE BULLY, and shake hands with him. The whole education system is broken.

FlyingSquid ,
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She doesn’t even fight back. She doesn’t like to do that. I’ve tried to tell her to do it and she just doesn’t have the self-esteem. It’s been bullied out of her. I wish I had taken her out sooner. I feel pretty guilty about that. But I didn’t really accept that it was a situation that would not be resolved until Halloween, where she wore a really cool anime cat girl costume which looked exactly like a character she loves- I don’t remember the name- that my wife made for her. I’m not big on anime, but it was like high-end cosplay level when it came to a costume. My wife is really talented. She was so excited that she wouldn’t even take it off all day after my wife finished it. She wore it to school and basically the entire school told her she was a furry and her costume was terrible and made fun of her the entire day. She got up the next day and broke down and said she couldn’t go to school anymore and we realized that was something that is not fixable.

radioactiveradio ,

While it’s generally good to avoid confrontations and walk away, it’s a good idea to know atleast basic self-defense. School was a terrible experience for me as people with low self-confidence tend to make easy targets for bullies. I hope your daughter gets through school without much trouble. Please do support her. Sometimes it’s not easy for kids to tell people cuz of ego or just the general distrust for adults. Also whoever thought putting a bunch of puberty riddled kids into one room was an idiot.

FlyingSquid ,
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Middle school is the worst time in school. Kids are absolute monsters at that age.

uis ,
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Aligns with my experience

BleatingZombie ,

This might be a long shot, but ask her if she’d be interested in learning martial arts. She doesn’t need to “learn how to fight” for it to give her more confidence. It worked for me

FlyingSquid ,
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I’ve asked her before. It doesn’t interest her. She’s not an athletic kid. Also, there are other issues I can’t get into.

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