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Ransack , to selfhosted in Move UnRaid from metal to Proxmox

Use either proxmox or unraid. Don’t stack.

They are both great in their own respects but you need to choose what works for you and your hardware.

Up until recently I liked unraid due to being able to use multiple disks with different capacities. You don’t really have that freedom with proxmox.

jjlinux OP ,
@jjlinux@lemmy.ml avatar

And that’s why I chose to ask here. More heads put together come up with better choices. Watching this TechHut video (www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahOXQM4416Q) and another one from Christian Lempa (www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3pKprTdNqQ) is what led me to think it could be an idea.

I guess it’s the “add another server” to route for me.

Thanks so much.

Ransack ,

Best of luck jjlinux. I hope you have a ton of fun getting your system up and running.

jjlinux OP ,
@jjlinux@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks a lot, I’ll update my progress, if my wife chooses to spare my life once I start 🤣

pyrosis ,
@pyrosis@lemmy.world avatar

To most of your comment I completely agree minus the freedom for choosing different disk sizes. You absolutely can do that with btrfs or just throwing a virtual layer on top of some disks with something like mergerfs.

Ransack ,

You’re correct, with a bit more know how and knowledge it’s completely doable. Quick question maybe, once you create a pool and are utilizing it, are you able to add/remove drives as needed or does that require additional work to be completed? I am under the impression that the pools can be created with a variety of drives but making any physical adjustments are a bit of trouble.

However, I do appreciate you posting about this, maybe it’ll help someone else that might be browsing through here. Thank you.

pyrosis ,
@pyrosis@lemmy.world avatar

It depends on your needs. It’s entirely possible to just format a bunch of disks as xfs and setup some mount points you hand to a union filesystem like mergerfs or whatever. Then you would just hand that to proxmox directly as a storage location. Management can absolutely vary depending how you do this.

At its heart it’s just Debian so it has all those abilities of Debian. The web UI is more tuned to vm/lxc management operations. I don’t really like the default lvm/ext4 but they do that to give access to snapshots.

I personally just imported an existing zfs pool into proxmox and configured it to my liking. I discovered options like directly passing datasets into lxc containers with lxc options like lxc.mount.entry

I recently finished optimizing my proxmox for performance in regards to disk io. It’s modified with things like log2ram, tmpfs in fstab for /tmp and /var/tmp, tcp congestion control set to cubic, a virtual opnsense heavily modified for 10gb performance, a bunch of zfs media datasets migrated to one media dataset and optimized for performance. Just so many tweaks and knobs to turn in proxmox that can increase performance. Folks even mention docker I’ve got it contained in an lxc. My active ram usage for all my services down to 7 gigs and disk io jumping .9 - 8%. That’s crazy but it just works.

roofuskit ,

If you have a disk controller you can pass through.

massivefailure , to memes in Uncle Sam is at it again

Tell both to shut the fuck up, learn to live together, and stop killing each other. What a goddamn radical concept. Fuck all this “which side is right” bickering and admit they’re both wrong.

land ,
@land@lemmy.ml avatar

Wish it worked like that. In Israeli society from very young age, you’re taught you hate Palestinians, as if they’re brainwashed.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=a7cgzz5W8uM

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

It’s easy to say that when you’re an outside party who doesn’t understand or care about the underlying issues. Not to minimize the issue with the metaphor, but have you ever fought with a sibling or someone else at school and your disinterested parent our authority figure told you to both to stop without addressing any of either of your underlying problems? How well did it work?

Pretending that “just stop it” deals with the realities of a complex history of real grievances and legitimate causes for anger and retribution on both sides is the most magical of magical thinking, and it doesn’t help that third party negotiators usually start their peace proceedings by learning NOTHING about the history of distrust and anger building up over decades, picking a side to ride or die with, and then declaring the issue fixed as soon as someone signs an agreement.

ChonkyOwlbear , to programmerhumor in When a real user uses the app

One of my favorite examples of the difficulty in idiot-proofing things comes from a national park ranger talking about the difficulty of designing a bear-proof garbage can. He said “There is considerable overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans.”

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Lmao, yeah… You can make a can so secured a bear definitely won’t get in; but will people go to the effort to use it then?

Definitely some overlap there.

CanadaPlus ,

And I think that hits on the truth, which makes this less “iamverysmart”. It’s not that the tourists are dumb, it’s that they’re new and not willing to pay much attention to things like trash can design. 1% of a normal person’s attention presents a lot like a really dumb person.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Is it 1%? Maybe when they first try to open it they’re distracted But when doesn’t open and now they’re concentrating on the problem and still fail, then we have to kinda own up to the fact that a lot of people aren’t smarter than a bear.

CanadaPlus ,

I think if they can score 100 on an IQ test, they can figure out any reasonable trash can eventually, assuming the moving parts are visible. Many people would rather just litter.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Yah, that’s possible too. But I can’t say I’d figure anyone that litters is much smarter than a bear either.

Scrof ,

Stupidity is a moral flaw after all.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Ecology (or just waste management) is even more complicated and boring than a garbage can.

It’s apathy all the way down.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

100 is the average, implying half the population is lower than that, but otherwise, sure

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Yup. The ranger did say “stupidest”, I guess, but I feel like at 70 or something you still know to pull on stuff in a few set ways until it moves.

Sotuanduso ,

And bears around 130 probably know that too.

CanadaPlus ,

That makes me wonder what designs they were considering. The ones I’ve seen use a sort of pinch motion under metal hood. Maybe the idea there is to require dexterous forelimbs, rather than any intellectual ability.

RustyShackleford , (edited )
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

100 is the average, implying half the population is lower than that

At the risk of pedantry, if 100 is the average (the mean), we’re saying “most people are at 100”. If it were the median, then we’re implying “100 is the middle score of those sampled”. A subtle, but important difference.

affiliate ,

i’m not really sure what IQ has to do with this. it was originally designed to measure people’s proficiency in school. it was not designed to be a general measure of intelligence. that was something that was co opted by eugenicists.

here’s a quote from Simon Bidet, the original creator of the IQ test, about his thoughts on the eugenicists using his test:

Finally, when Binet did become aware of the “foreign ideas being grafted on his instrument” he condemned those who with ‘brutal pessimism’ and ‘deplorable verdicts’ were promoting the concept of intelligence as a single, unitary construct.

you can read more about this stuff on his wikipedia page. (the quote is from wikipedia)

even to this day, there is quite a bit of doubt as to how accurately IQ measures “general intelligence”

CanadaPlus ,

I know. It’s a shorthand quantitative measure everyone’s familiar with, though, so it’s useful for communicating. Thanks for adding a disclaimer for me.

urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I can’t believe this comment chain is this long and no one has pointed out that drunk and stoned humans are terrible at figuring stuff like this out.

You’re not planning for the dumbest human trying in earnest. You’re planning for humans who are tired, distracted and/or chemically altered. A 80 IQ person can figure out a weird trash can eventually if they are trying.

These comments (not just yours) feel misanthropic. I haven’t been to a campsite in ages so I don’t know what sort of trash can puzzlebox we’re talking about, but I work somewhere with alcohol so I can guess what the true issue is.

Hossenfeffer ,
@Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk avatar

I’d be pretty distracted by the bear waiting behind me for his go.

Fermion ,

A bear has time and motivation to keep trying over and over again to get into the garbage. People are generally much less determined to figure it out.

Carnelian ,

I used to see people charitably, much like you do, until very recently. After witnessing for myself people staring into the sun and injuring themselves after being repeatedly warned, I now realize there are a substantial number of people who simply have rocks clattering around inside their skulls instead of brains

ironhydroxide ,

Holy shit this. And not even “educated” people. Where I work is about half degree holding engineers… many of these engineers were seen outside staring at the partial eclipse Monday.

bane_killgrind ,

“Pfff I have a master’s degree I know what I’m doing”

TranscendentalEmpire ,

Sounds like your typical engineer. I passed fluid dynamics, I deserve to look at the big ball of plasma.

My eyes haven’t hurt this bad since studying for differential equations theory… Have I told you I’m an engineer?

Lath ,

What do you mean? Sun is blocked = no sun rays = not blinded when staring directly. The logic is sound! Just like in programming.

Xavienth ,

I mean, that is true when 100% blocked (totality)

xantoxis ,

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  • Carnelian ,

    Being able to see properly is also something they’ll never be able to do again, so, I hope that one second was “spiritual” enough for them lol

    xantoxis ,

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  • rtxn , (edited )

    Being able to see properly

    immediately go blind

    You’re immediately taking the argument to the extreme. You won’t immediately go blind, but it will damage your retina in ways you sometimes don’t notice because the brain compensates for it. It happened to my uncle when he was a welder, he had a second blind spot where he couldn’t see sharply, but it didn’t really affect his quality of life.

    SchmidtGenetics ,

    There’s a pretty big difference between temporary pain and permanent damage though.

    Unless you royally fuck up walking on coals you get some pain, fuck up a little and you just get some blisters.

    Rolder ,

    Glancing at the eclipse while it’s in totality is not going to give you permanent damage. Now if you stare at it until totality is over and the sun is on full blast again…

    affiliate ,

    playing russian roulette is not going to give you permanent damage every 5/6 times

    SchmidtGenetics ,

    Or if you’re not in the path of totality…. The risk just isn’t worth it.

    Let’s just not look up at the bright thing in the sky that can cause permanent damage at any given time.

    ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

    …and ignore one of the coolest things there is to see on the sky

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    Or plan in advance and have some protection?

    ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

    Yes, get yourself eclipse glasses, a pinhole projector, a floppy disk, digital camera or whatever allows you to observe the eclipse safely – no phenomenon is worth risking your eyesight over. However, the consensus is that you can watch the sun flares without protection during totality. The totality lasted 0 to 4 minutes depending on your location.

    ApathyTree , (edited )
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Eclipses happen every year like clockwork (it basically is clockwork, but on a huge scale). Eclipse seasons are spring and fall, around the equinoxes. You could very easily fly to see a total eclipse every few years if you want to, because we know when they are going to happen and where will have totality - it’s very routine stuff. There’s literally nothing special at all about the one that just happened, except that a lot of people haven’t seen one before because it hasn’t happened -at that location- in a time.

    So no, absolutely not something you’ll never get a chance to see again, tho you won’t be able if you go blind like a fucking moron.

    Rolder ,

    Total eclipses aren’t rare, but them being in an accessible location and not just over some random place in the ocean is. I looked this up the other day, and any one particular location on Earth will see a total eclipse once every 350 years or so.

    ApathyTree ,
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Except they aren’t just visible from a single location, so almost every time they are over an accessible place on land. Not for the whole thing, sure, but visible all the same.

    This might be helpful for reference. It’s maps of where the next 50 years worth of total eclipses fall. The first one that isn’t really visible by people is 2039 in Antarctica. There’s a few like that. Other than that, there’s at least an island you could go to for it, and see one every few years. Eclipses being totally unavailable to view is actually far more rare than seeing one :)

    time.com/4897581/total-solar-eclipse-years-next/

    MonkeMischief ,

    This reminds me of that poster in my highschool chem lab:

    https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/da5de508-11fc-4677-96e3-2d8f6368f413.jpeg

    Same with shooting without eye/ear pro. I dunno about other folks but I use my eyes and ears a lot, and I’d hate to miss out on music and color the rest of my life because I thought I would have a transcendent experience blowing them out for a minute. 😬

    Carighan ,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    If I had someone run through hot coals I would scold them, sure. Much like for being angry about others not believing in zombie carpenters or letting quacks give their kids overpriced sugar pills. But that’s jot the context right now, is it?

    Xavienth ,

    The partial eclipse is nothing special. Any given location gets one every few years or so.

    Totality is the really neat and special thing, and it isn’t damaging to your eyes. (assuming you don’t pre-empt or overshoot the timing)

    Underwaterbob ,

    There was a solar eclipse when I was in grade six. One of my classmates was riding his bike home, and was stupidly looking at the eclipse, and got hit by a car. The irony.

    Carnelian ,

    Omg that’s so messed up but so incredible haha, was he okay after?

    Underwaterbob ,

    It was pretty bad. He missed a lot of school. I think he ended up repeating grade six. I never saw him much after that, but I did hear that he got married to another person I went to school with eventually, so presumably his life wasn’t ruined or anything.

    DdCno1 ,

    I'm curious if he was okay before.

    MrShankles ,

    So you’re somewhere between 18 and 58 than

    Sotuanduso ,

    Ladies and gentlemen, we gottem.

    ggppjj ,

    I genuinely had someone stop and ask me why you can’t see the moon during an eclipse because “it’s got light in it right”.

    They’re soon to replace our HR manager.

    ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

    A solar or lunar eclipse?

    ggppjj ,

    The solar eclipse from Monday.

    CanadaPlus , (edited )

    Answer: Light travels in straight lines (well, for this purpose) and the moon is roughly an opaque sphere. Maybe you could see it with earthshine, but I get the impression the corona is still much brighter.

    I’ve heard dumber.

    merc ,

    There was a listener question on a science podcast recently that asked about how the temperature changed on the moon during the recent solar eclipse.

    They almost got what a solar eclipse was, but not quite. During a solar eclipse, the moon gets between the sun and the earth, blocking the light getting to the earth and casting a shadow on the earth. The side of the moon facing the earth is completely dark because the thing that normally lights it up (the sun) is completely behind it. But, the back side of the moon is getting full sun and just as hot as normal.

    I think part of the problem with understanding all this is that the sun is just so insanely bright. Like, it’s a bit hard to believe that the full moon is so bright just because it’s reflecting sunlight. It’s also amazing that the “wandering stars” (planets) look like stars when they’re just blobs of rocks or gases that are reflecting the insanely bright light of the sun.

    It’s amazing if you think about it. Light comes out of the sun in every possible direction. A tiny fraction of it hits the surface of Mercury, and only some of that light is reflected back out. The light reflected from Mercury goes in almost every direction. A tiny fraction of it hits the earth. But, even with that indirect bounce, it’s bright enough to see with the naked eye.

    Clent ,

    Congratulations! You’ve leveled up in the game of life.

    DdCno1 ,

    I've seen people carelessly throw away their garbage right next to garbage bins, because they couldn't be bothered to get a little closer or aim.

    The bear has more determination, because it has an incentive to get to the tasty, high calorie food that doesn't require the energy expenditure of chasing it down and tearing it apart. Throwing away garbage into a designated container on the other hand is a chore that some people believe they can skip, because they are the sole protagonists in their own stupid little world.

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    Can you put your computer in a bear proof garbage can?

    ChonkyOwlbear ,

    You could, but who is worried a bear will use their computer?

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    The QA engineer obviously.

    ultra , to linuxmemes in welp ...

    I run nextcloud on bare metal on NixOS, but I’m planning on moving it to a NixOS container

    db2 , to memes in You Knew This Was Coming

    If he became president at least there’d be a legit excuse for acting brain damaged in office. 🤷

    ninja ,

    Zaphod Beeblebrox?

    Takios ,
    @Takios@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    There’d be no legit excuse for why so many people voted him in though.

    hoya , to memes in Uncle Sam is at it again

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  • perishthethought , to programmerhumor in Is this a graph?
    Thcdenton ,

    Dope ty

    Gradually_Adjusting , to memes in You Knew This Was Coming
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca avatar

    There’s an argument to be made for both Repulsor and Favourable Beginnings.

    TheOakTree , to memes in You Knew This Was Coming

    This is basically the first joke I made when I talked about the news to friends.

    akariii , to programmerhumor in Is this a graph?

    its all category theory

    AFallingAnvil , to memes in You Knew This Was Coming
    @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

    What’s this from?

    eestileib ,

    Baldur’s Gate 3

    devfuuu ,

    I really thought this was some anal analogy for something…

    Siegfried ,

    Who said it cant be both?

    Chuymatt ,

    Baulder’s Gate 3

    deegeese ,

    Boulders Gait III

    steal_your_face ,
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ball derps gay tree

    ag_roberston_author ,
    @ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org avatar

    It’s the mindflayer power upgrade tree from Baldur’s Gate 3.

    TheControlled , to memes in Pooh teaches Piglet how to spell

    Ugh, this such eye roll drivel.

    SaltyIceteaMaker , to memes in [CW: Blood, killing and death] Long live the Palestinian liberation! 🇵🇸🫡

    You are awfully political (in general) for “A Cool Dude”

    a_little_red_rat ,

    nah, that’s just part of being a cool dude

    mycodesucks , to memes in You Knew This Was Coming
    @mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar
    KillingTimeItself , to linuxmemes in welp ...

    nextcloud sounds like a good way to get vmware’d to me but what do i know.

    CCF_100 ,

    🤔

    KillingTimeItself ,

    it seems pretty cool but i don’t like anything that is heavily integrated for principle reasons.

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