Proxmox doesn’t run docker containers. You can probably install docker to make it run them, but it’s not supported.
I also wouldn’t run unraid on a virtual disk just to provide storage. Personally, I have one almalinux VM running on Proxmox that runs all my containers and has a big virtual disk to store my media.
Proxmox is Debian at its core, which is supported by Docker. There’s no good reason to not run Docker on the bare metal in a homelab. I’d be curious to know what statement Proxmox has made about supporting Docker. I’ve found nothing.
That’s not a definitive support statement about Docker being unsupported. In fact, even in the Admin Guide, it only provides recommendations. The comment I replied said Docker is unsupported by Proxmox. I maintain that there is no such statement from Proxmox.
Maybe not explicitly unsupported, but I think “it interferes with some mechanisms on which we rely” should be more discouraging than a policy statement.
I bought a used machine a couple weeks ago and am setting it up (1st bare metal build), prox with debian vm running docker. I found it annoying that pm doesn’t support it natively but the ability to do snapshots through pm is nice, and let’s me fuck around more than I would otherwise, slowly build up a machine.
But almost all of the stuff I have running on other machines is just docker containers, so it would be nice if pm just added a checkbox during install or something. (I want to poke at and learn pm, plus mess around with other vms, that’s why I didn’t do straight Debian)
LXCs let you get all the benifits of VMs with fewer drawbacks, I recommend that approach if you want some extra sandboxing than docker on bare metal provides.
The best NC setup, is uninstalling NC. Seriously, I spent a month getting that monstrosity to work and not bitch about configurations OUT OF THE BOX that it does NOT HAVE A UI FOR just to find out that half of the ‘apps’ are half-baked buggy messes and the other are out of date, half-baked buggy messes. A to-do system without repeating item availability was the last one I learned about before salting the earth of that hopeless project.
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Actually got me pissed off, thinking about it again. Jesus.
Right now I’m using a synology nas and its 1st party programs, but trying to break away to a more foss-friendly environment. Drive, Contacts, Calendar/Tasks, just work and don’t require any fiddling so until a worthy opponent shows up, I’m kinda stuck.
I’m there too right now. Got a DS720+ but it’s struggling a little since I’m also self hosting mail through it. I’ve been eyeing to use NC as a replacement for everything but do get mixed feelings from threads like these lol
I hope to in the future get a proper little mini PC with a disk enclosure in the future to have as a replacement for that however!
I’ve looked briefly into seafile; I’m fine, happy really, with the synology for file hosting, it’s just the caldav, the photo management (I have immich but there’s no easy way to move albums from syno to imm), stuff like that. And the fact that it all works together (reverse proxy, apps, web UI…) makes it illogical to move away for anything else than ‘principle’ or ‘insufficient hardware’.
I have truenas running on a proxmox system but it appears it wants more than one drive? But I don’t have matching drives for raid at the moment. That was/is something I’m looking into longer term, once I decouple the data from the services.
Are people really getting skill issued by Nextcloud? The official docker images always worked well for me. I used the Nextcloud apache docker image, connected it with postgresql and a nginx reverse proxy that handles SSL. Never had any major problems with Nextcloud. I only stopped selfhosting because I found a cheaper alternative that handles Nextcloud hosting for me.
If you want to move to Proxmox then I say give it a go.
Maybe just keep what you have running and set up another machine to have a play. If you like it, then stick it on your main machine and work out how to replace everything, could be a fun project for you.
I use Proxmox and have Open Media Vault as my NAS. I use SMB/CIFS to share the drives and have a share that Proxmox can use for daily backups, as well as having backups on the main SSD every week. I need to off-site backups but I haven’t researched that yet.
I have a Debian VM that runs Docker and have everything running on that except OMV and Home Assistant. I have another Debian VM that I spin up to try things out.
RAM-wise I’m hitting about 12gb so if you have something with 16 lying around you can easily try out most of what you have running already, and if you don’t have anything to run it on you’re talking under £100 for a mini PC.
Give it a go, I’m sure you can come up with something to run on a mini pc anyway
This is actually good advise. I am running ProxMox on a very old PC (3rd Gen i3 with 8GB of ram), and I really like it, which is why I wanted to move it to my server Box instead.
But now that you mention it, I may be better off keeping my UnRaid box as it is and use is as NAS/Storage exclusively and then build a good box to run everything else from ProxMox.
I like my Kubernetes setup at work. It runs Nextcloud, Mattermost, GitLab, company website, several embedded firmware OTA update sites, a few internal apps. Nextcloud was pretty easy to install on it with Helm, just a single command line and a yaml file to specify domain, settings, etc. I had some teething issues in my early setup where the database would get wiped inexplicably, but it’s been running smooth for years now. (Yes, I know, bad juju running databases on Kubernetes…I’m used to it and it mostly works)
I wouldn’t, you’ll lose a lot not having it manage the disks such as using dissimilar disks for the array and having it spin down unused disks. You might be able to pass disks through so the unraid VM can manage them directly, but it might be harder than I’d personally want to deal with.
If you aren’t running VMs much. Truenas scale I believe can do docker well. I’ve seen a lot of people put that in a VM on proxmox with disks passed through to be used as the NAS portion.
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