Honestly, I don’t believe save TF2 will get anywhere. Valve is clearly uninterested in supporting the game, and who could fault them? It’s an old game, and games don’t need to be supported just because people play them.
The real problem Valve is playing with is that TF2 is still monetized. They should not be selling microtransactions for a game this broken. If they weren’t selling microtransactions, they would be entirely in their right to kill all official support and leave the game to community servers.
My main concern is that Valve will calculate this over the bad PR they’re receiving, and rather than do anything to curb the bot problem, simply kill their support for TF2. I would be okay with this. I think most people wanting to #SaveTF2won’t be.
Then VAC ban the steam account since you sold on steam. The game worked fine for months after launch without requiring a PlayStation account and would continue to work fine otherwise.
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn’t enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam’s “2 hours playtime = no refund” rule
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn’t enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam’s “2 hours playtime = no refund” rule
It was required from the start, why are buying something without knowing if it will even run first? Its hilarious the amount of people defending something that’s people’s own stupidity.
Quite the sad reflection of reality unfortunately.
Because if it doesn’t run, you won’t get 2 hours of playtime and steam will refund it. Stop defending corporate greed on a social media platform DESIGNED to get away from corporate greed.
I don’t have a PSN account. I was able to log in and play without using a PSN account. At no point was I told that a PSN account would be required to play. My very reasonable assumption. Is that the PSN account requirement was listed for crossplay, or managing socials with PS players. If the game had not worked from day one, or if I had been notified in the game that this was merely a temporary solution, and that I would be unable to play at all in the coming months, then I would have refunded without even trying.
So no, despite what the little label said, PSN account was not required to play the game. It worked fine without the PSN account.
In an ideal world, the requirement would be removed. Since the availability of the game has arbitrarily changed a lot in the last 2 days, Sony should at least offer full refunds and an apology to the community.
I don’t need to make an excuse. You’re making excuses, even more pathetic, you’re making excuses for a megacorp trying to datamine their customers by changing the conditions for use of the game that they already bought.
I played the game without a PSN account, along with most of the HD2 community, and I was happy with the content, which in no way relied on having a PSN account. I don’t have one. I played the game. Therefore, it was not required, regardless of what the store blurb said. I got exactly one notice to link a PSN account, which I skipped, it was a skippable thing, meaning was not required. When I skipped the PSN account, it took me straight to the game. There was no notice that it would be required to link at a later date.
If no one has told you yet, you have an amazing tongue. Your capability to lick boots and kiss ass is unparalleled. Shame that Sony won’t notice your efforts here either.
Nah brother. Because it’s in the TOS doesn’t make it OK, and in some cases, even legally enforceable.
Why are you sticking up for some arbitrary shitty corporate decision and feel the need to shift the blame to people who bought, and now supposedly OWN, the game?
I can respect it if you’re doing it for money, we all gotta eat. But if it’s for free, you’re just an ass
You’re playing on Sonys servers, they need a way to enforce a ban when you are a dick. On steam if they ban your account, you make a new one, and family share the game bypassing the ban.
This is Sonys servers, it’s their rules, no different than needing a Steam account to play Steam games. This isn’t something out of the ordinary….
I’m not sticking up for or defending anything, people are just too fucking stupid to read requirements before buying things, and now you being just as stupid defending the stupid people doing this lmfao.
It’s Sonys servers, of course it requires an account….
What? Sony can only ban a steam id, how’s Sony supposed to know you’re family sharing to another account? And you don’t need to buy a new game to family share, that’s the entire issue.
You can bypass banning without linked accounts due to steams policies, maybe if steam would issue a vac ban for a sony ban, but people would be even more up in arms about that.
Back when the new family sharing rules came out, I remember reading something about how developers could opt out of family sharing. That’s what I was referencing.
So the only way to ban dicks is for them to have a PSN account? That ain’t it my brother.
Wow… how do they ban all your other accounts unless steam vac bans you for a Sony ban? Don’t you think that would be an entire other issue…? Get your steam if banned, make a new account and family share it, bypassing Sonys ban with now way of the knowing…. Yeah that’s a fucking problem.
Sony servers, sure, just release a server binary, let others host it and offload all infrastructure costs! Massive savings!
Uhhh… you understand the concept of this game… yeah…?
Don’t suck corporate ass man, cmon.
You couldn’t be making a bigger idiot of yourself right now.
I’d be interested to know if that’s Sony or steams mistake selling them in those markets. Or isn’t that developer controlled? So maybe the devs fucked up by not restricting the sales, they said they knew about Sonys requirements.
That’s not fair. It doesn’t count the time between when you get off and then when you actually clean up and stop the video and look at yourself in shame
If a family member gets banned for cheating while playing your copy of a game, you (the game owner) will also be banned in that game. Other family members are not impacted.
The same could be said about any game with any non-Steam availability. I don't think that was OP's intent. That being said, emulators surely were not the intent either.
I feel like I’ve already gotten my money’s worth with how much I’ve played the current version. If they somehow pull a cubeworld and make it worse, I’m sure the community would love to source an old and good version.
Well, at least that one works. Though gotta remind this: There are games in Linux category and they suppose to work as a native game however a handful of games don’t work at all due to their one time Linux port by another studio. Usually using Proton fix this issue but this is not something you want so take this as an advice and check the game on ProtonDB and see if the native version of the game you wanna buy works correctly. Also there are many cases of games that using Proton runs better than their native version.
Old one is still solid (and now discounted) but this offers some nice, mid-generation upgrades. If you already have one, or want one at a discount, stick with the old model, otherwise this is a nice upgrade for basically the same price.
Unless I’m misunderstanding something, the one that is now being sold for $400 used to be $550. All the LCD models have dropped in price (with the 64 GB and 512 GB models being discontinued) and the OLED filling in the now open higher price tiers.
I haven’t read full document but I’m Polish and remember that back in the day when buying some games off Steam you’ve got some kind of eastern European version that was separate from global one.
Other than DLC being incompatible, the biggest pain in the ass was that the language selection was very limited, commonly just Polish, Lithuanian and Russian (which nobody speaks here). If you weren’t fan of localization or wanted to play game in the English or original language you were out of luck.
I guess. But that doesn’t matter, it’s against a prime EU principle - free trade inside the EU. They can offer their products cheaper in those countries but they can’t tell other EU members not to buy there.
I actually got in contact with zenimax about that issue 10 years ago and after some back and forth they just forwarded me to their legal team. And I sure made a complaint with the EU about it. I’m sure there were lots of complaints about that issue but I feel somewhat validated right now.
Yes, it is a w. As I mentioned, they are free to sell their products at a lower price in certain countries but they can’t tell someone from Italy that they can’t buy their product in Hungary. I honestly can’t understand someone who defends this practice.
So someone from California can’t buy products in Mississippi, that’s just fair - or it’s ok just because it’s via the internet?
I think the point he’s making is now poorer countries will not get the benefit of regional pricing, they’ll have to pay full price, because there’s no way to prevent Italians from purchasing at Hungary’s reduced regional price.
Long and short, everybody will get the same high price from here on out.
No that’s exactly the same thing. They can offer the game for a discounted price in some EU countries, nobody said they can’t. What they don’t can is tell other EU citizens that they are not able to buy the product in those EU countries. I don’t know why you can’t understand this simple fact.
No it’s not. Telling someone from California that they can’t buy products in Mississippi is WAY different than telling them they are offered a different price in the two states. They are not told that they can’t buy it. Your analogy does not translate to the situation.
What they don’t can [can’t do] is tell other EU citizens that they are not able to buy the product in those EU countries.
That’s not what they’re told though. They are told “yes, you can buy our product.”
I don’t know why you can’t understand this simple fact.
What you’re saying doesn’t make sense. You’re telling me you don’t have a problem with regional pricing (within the EU) on digital goods, but you’re stating that companies must offer that same ‘regional’ pricing to everyone (within the EU)… that’s no longer regional pricing, it’s all just one price then. These two lines of thought completely contradict each other. How can you have regional pricing if you want everyone from every region to be offered the same price?
Do you really think that companies who offer discounts on digital goods to buyers in poorer regions are being nefarious? If the companies are not able to regionally price the games, then they cannot offer a discount to the poorer regions, and all that happens is everyone in the poorer regions ends up paying more.
At this point I just lost hope to make you understand. One last chance: Italian man wants to buy Skyrim in Hungary and he is told he can’t. That, under EU law is not allowed. That is geoblocking. That is against free trade in the EU. This is exactly the same as if you would tell Californian man he can’t buy Skyrim in Mississippi.
You don’t want to understand, am I right? I don’t get you.
You don’t want to understand, am I right? I don’t get you.
No, I understand. You are fine with regional pricing as long as there’s absolutely no way to enforce regional pricing. Which, when talking about a purely digital storefront, means there will be no more regional pricing.
This has already started happening in some regard. Recently, many games on Steam have already had their regional pricing removed, to the ire of gamers in poorer regions.
Honestly portal 2 was less interesting then portal 1. It was very meme heavy. It also became focused on running for your life instead of a puzzle game with a mystery. I’d rather see a new IP that isn’t a card game.
I like portal 1 quite a bit more than portal 2. Portal 1 felt like this dark mystery with occasional bits of humor. It felt very connected to Half Life, not necessarily in story, but definitely in atmosphere. Portal 2 was missing a lot of that. It oddly felt less lonely than Portal 1, and was missing a lot of that Half Life atmosphere.
Additionally I love the implications that Portal 1 has if you play Half Life. Outside is absolute hell, and you don’t know if you’d rather be outside the facility or inside it.
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