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Trump Cryptically Declares, ‘You Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ If He Wins Second Term

Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.

“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

Diplomjodler3 ,

What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He’s making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.

SlopppyEngineer ,

People asked the question before. It went something like:

“You do realize that he’ll be a dictator, right?”

" We don’t care. He’ll be our dictator and that’s all that matters."

And then they’ll say they do it for freedom and democracy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There’s another angle to the dictator thing-

A lot of people essentially think the president already is a dictator. That’s why even people on the left say things like, “why doesn’t Biden raise the minimum wage?!” when that requires an act of congress.

GustavoFring ,

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    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Where did you get any indication from what I said that I thought it was okay? I’m talking about why people aren’t more concerned about it like they should be.

    qarbone ,

    So many people are so het up, they come sprinting in, gagging to fight someone.

    They need to just deep breathe twice and think a little, please.

    beebarfbadger ,

    Trump’s always been banking on everybody giving him the benefit of the doubt, and they do, but he thinks it’s because he’s so very clever that he’s tricking his opponents with his thinly veiled veneer of plausible deniability. In actuality they just do it because he’s rich.

    Tarquinn2049 ,

    To be fair, if they are doing it because he is rich, then he is indeed tricking them. Even with all the reasons why he should be rich; owning a bunch of buildings, rarely paying anyone that does anything for him, being born rich… he actually still isn’t. He’s so bad with money that despite all that, he’s overall in the hole most of the time. Which is why he so vehemently defends any financial info coming out about him. It’s a point of pride to him that people think he is rich.

    Big_Boss_77 ,

    My favorite is “Why did Biden make shit so expensive!?” And all I can do is laugh, because my brain plays on a loop Biden sneaking around to all the stores swaping price tags and chuckling maniacally.

    And then I get sad because these were people I once respected as “intelligent”…

    Transporter_Room_3 ,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    I think it’s less “they think the position is already a dictator” and more “the general public has absolutely no idea how the office of the president works, or how the powers and limitations on various branches work in general” which is a failing of their education, and a poor reflection on the country as a whole.

    Of course that’s exactly the way the republicunts like it, “keep the population dumb and they won’t even question why you’re oppressing them”

    If your only experience with the president and their powers comes from (for millennial anyway) various crises (manufactured and non) where the president says “I’m signing this thing to do this” and because the vast majority of congress is behind them, as well as the regular) rest of the population, and it gets done (I’m thinking of things like Iraq), I can see someone thinking “well the president signed a paper, so it MUST happen”

    Which is sad funny since I hear the minimum wage comment a lot, but like… How well do you think that will go? It will go just like the student loan bullshit.

    And republicunts are such fucking insecure losers, they will happily drag the entire planet down into their bullshit to prevent even one single other person from getting help that they believe they’re entitled to the entirety of.

    You know. Like Toddlers.

    Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

    Or the more common answer:

    “He misspoke and the media is taking out of context.”

    Even though he has said it thirty different ways and this just happens to line up with the narrative.

    UpperBroccoli ,

    And he kept a running mate who keeps saying it.

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    Both groups exist and both ignore that the other exists. Just like every “anti-woke” comment is made. Half of them say it’s about some made up nuanced take, while the other half say “no it’s really just racism/sexism/homophobia”. Which pretty much sums up what Hillary said back in 2016.

    beebarfbadger ,

    “We want our dictator for… what are the good words again?”

    “You mean freedom and democracy?”

    “Yeah, whatever, for those!”

    ikidd ,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    Those fuckers should be deported to some authoritarian shithole with Sharia law like Iran so they can appreciate what they’re throwing away because they’re terrified of “the gays”.

    SlopppyEngineer ,

    Same with the “migrants out” thing. If immigrants actually left, farmers and business would be desperate within days because all their hardest and/or cheapest workers just vanished and now there are no more truck drivers, no more field workers so crops left rotting on the field, no more waiters, … Prices of stuff would shoot up. UK tried this recently and that’s what happened.

    PassingThrough ,

    Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.

    “Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”

    grabyourmotherskeys ,

    It’s crazy.

    “Oh, your drunk uncle Mike who has three arson convictions, thinks you turned the family against him, and is in your attached garage with gas and a lighter threatening to burn it down? Don’t worry about him, he’s harmless!”

    itslilith ,
    @itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fire_Raisers_(play)

    blattrules ,

    I’m guessing it’s cryptic because he can just say that he meant “for me” and not “in general.”

    octopus_ink ,

    “In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

    Yikes.

    suction ,

    Also anyone who doesn’t go vote because of edgelord reasons or laziness is guilty. If the US becomes Russia v2.0, we’ll all die in WW3 guaranteed.

    Takios ,
    @Takios@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    This is as cryptic as saying “I will come to your house tonight and burn it down with everyone still in it.”

    kewko ,

    You will never need to worry about your house again!

    CitizenKong ,

    “I love you, christians. I am a christian!”

    Who the fuck talks like that? And who the fuck votes for a guy that talks like that?

    BeigeAgenda ,
    @BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

    Hello my fellow human beings, I’m a human and love doing human activities.

    Narwhalrus ,

    Reminds me of this

    Lemminary ,

    Hello, fellow kids!

    Yawweee877h444 ,

    Christians, apparently.

    cygnus ,
    @cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

    When you’ve already lost the capacity for critical thought…

    sp3tr4l ,

    Imagine how stupid the average person is, then realize half of all people are stupider than that.

    • George Carlin
    TrickDacy ,

    Truer words never have been uttered

    Centaur ,

    Happy cake day!

    TrickDacy ,

    Aw thanks! I didn’t even realize it was so until you said that. Curious – how did you know? I’m using boost right now and it’s not made obvious anywhere I’ve checked.

    Centaur ,

    There is a picture of little cake on the right side of your nick. Maybe Boost don’t like cakes?

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    I read something that put conservatives into greater context, just changed one word.

    “Imagine how stupid the average Republican is, then realize half of all republicans are stupider than that.”

    qjkxbmwvz ,

    Median would be the more generally correct number to use, but apparently IQ (debatable as a proxy for intelligence…) is roughly normally distributed, so either is likely close enough.

    OwenEverbinde , (edited )

    Oh yeah, they normalize IQ every year, and 100 is always used as the median.

    But thanks to the Flynn Effect, getting a 100 (the number they always choose for the middle) in 2024 means you’re significantly smarter than someone who got a 100 in 1990.

    So when Carlin said, “think of a person with average intelligence” he was calling to mind (to his 1990 audience) a person who was average in 1990 but would score in the 70s or 80s [EDIT: would actually score right around 90 points] today.

    This is what happens when you take the lead out of gasoline.

    roscoe ,

    A person would only drop a couple points over time. 80s, and especially 70s, would be significantly impaired.

    OwenEverbinde ,

    Yeah, I ended up looking up the actual Flynn effect numbers AFTER leaving my comment, and had to edit because I was way off.

    tate ,

    The word average is used to signify mean, median or mode freely, depending only on context. For example, “he’s just an average Joe” is to say he’s like most other men in his demographic. In that case average means mode. In Carlin’s joke, average means median.

    ByteOnBikes ,

    These people who talk equally as phony.

    Behold: a black person.

    https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/70013544-3ace-4c9f-b658-025c41277c06.png

    derpgon ,

    Too stupid to be satire, but also too stupid to not be satire. I am not sure with this one, chief.

    Seleni ,

    If I recall correctly, he forgot to switch accounts before posting that one.

    ImADifferentBird ,
    @ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Quite a few of those on social media.

    mPony ,

    AND YET…

    Rubanski ,

    Yes it’s like when I, too, enjoy human food like a real human

    tigeruppercut ,

    https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/735108b3-9a49-443b-a1a0-edcc8704e25c.webp

    chronicledmonocle ,

    Doesn’t seem particularly “cryptic” to me. Essentially he’s saying “If we win, you don’t need to vote, because I’ll make sure we win from now on by rigging it”.

    Seems pretty cut and dry to me what he’s saying.

    glassware ,

    I dunno, I hate Trump as much as the next guy but it seems to me he meant “I’m going to fix all the country’s problems in one term so you won’t need to vote for me again”, not “I’m going to abolish voting”.

    uis ,

    my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you.

    I’m not an expert in American politics, but is he high on something?

    peg ,

    I think they’re all high on something. It results in a bad trip for the rest of us.

    Freefall ,

    Not remotely cryptic…

    NutWrench ,
    @NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

    This. And “cryptically declares?” Really? Trump is always dumb, blunt and obvious. Believe people when they show you what they really are.

    overload ,

    Your country is insane.

    In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.

    I hope for the sake of humanity that all the sane people in the US go out and tells everyone they know that cares about democracy and the rule of law what Trump is planning to do, especially in the swing states.

    prole ,

    Our country is full of proudly ignorant bootlickers

    Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about “American dreams” and “bootstraps,” make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their “progressive taxation,” and “social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I’m on disability, it’s different)”.

    Republicans have been sabotaging our country’s own public education system for 25+ years at this point. Selling the future prosperity of our nation down the river for a voter-base with cult-like devotion, and a unique ability to ignore objective reality.

    Unfortunately for the planet, it seems to have been wildly successful.

    The next step is to do away with democracy altogether.

    Jaderick ,

    It’s been the Koch brothers and the John Birch Society’s dream (amongst others) to propagandize so many people of the “American Dream” and evils of anything other than capitalism. They were ecstatic when the Tea Party movement worked out for them, but they lost control of it with Trump. It’s a monster of their own making.

    beebarfbadger ,

    and evils of anything other than capitalism

    *other than WHAT THEY CALL capitalism

    They look at monopolies where the market leader buys laws, lobbies for protection and muscles competition out of the game unhindered and then they decry anybody calling it out as communists or socialists or the devil or whatever other bad word is en vogue that day.

    Carrolade ,

    Kochs lost control of Trump to the JBS types. The Kochs are more Mitch McConnell type power brokers, all about the money and corporations. JBS is more MAGA, with the heavy undercurrent of conspiracy.

    rottingleaf ,

    Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about “American dreams” and “bootstraps,” make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their “progressive taxation,” and “social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I’m on disability, it’s different)”.

    Well, to generalize your statement a bit, I’ve had a conflict with people who thought that the only thing preventing them from living in socialist heaven were jerks like me talking about human rights, market economy, transparency, accountability, governments actually changing, putting thieves in jail and getting activists out of jail, legalization of various substances, any consensual sexual activity, privacy, freedom of speech, competitive judicial system, culture of protest, yadda-yadda once a few years …

    They sincerely thought all this prevented life in my country from being good, while themselves being thieving ignorant intriguing insecure shits was normal. You know, the kind of people who contribute clearly negatively to the society, but think life is unjust to them, they should live better and somebody has stolen everything from them.

    JackiesFridge ,
    @JackiesFridge@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly - I started noticing prideful ignorance in the early 2010s. People around me made bad choices and would not be corrected. Their ignorance was just as valid as someone else’s actual knowledge. That’s when, strengthened by their own baseless pride, their shame disappeared. I’m not saying shame is good, but when it’s the only thing keeping the deplorables in check, maybe a little of it helps.

    It used to be that I’m general, horrible people realised they were horrible and at least went through the motions of being decent. They were like cockroaches scurrying for the shadows when you turned on the light. Now they’re like a cat peeing on your bed - they pause long enough to lock eyes with you, then continue peeing.

    Speaking optimistically, at least now we know exactly who they are.

    rottingleaf ,

    They were like cockroaches scurrying for the shadows when you turned on the light.

    Oh, I actually used this comparison once when such people still generally did that. They were pissed. I didn’t directly address them BTW, they decided which side they’re on for themselves.

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    The GOP have been selling these people hope and magic since Reagan. It’s no longer about hard work for republicans, now all they have to do is destroy cities and kick out everyone they don’t like, and we will return to the magic that never existed in the 1950’s.

    NABDad ,

    I hate to break it to you, but it’s not just our country.

    beebarfbadger ,

    It may be the most successful example of indoctrination of parts of the populace of a supposedly developed nation by the ruling class though.

    barsquid ,

    It’s a smashing success for regulatory capture of the courts so that unlimited funds, foreign and domestic, can be legally spent on propaganda targeting fear-addicted racists.

    EatATaco ,

    This is lemmy, the goal is always to shit on America.

    TrickDacy ,

    Probably because it’s one of the worst examples of many bad things. Source: am American. The only way you can avoid criticizing America as a thinking person is to focus on the ways it’s a little better than other countries. For example we mostly have clean drinking water while other countries don’t. But if you for a moment focus back on America itself it’s hard not to find things that just damned well ought to be better. Never be sick in America. Our healthcare is a pathetic piece of shit!

    suction ,

    About the clean drinking water, the first world countries all have it though

    TrickDacy ,

    I realize that. I should’ve said that some countries don’t have clean drinking water. For me it has been shocking when I’ve experienced that because I’m “spoiled” by safe water most places I’ve ever visited.

    Freefall ,

    Pointing out flaws instead of blindly shouting “murka numbuh wun!” is not a bad thing…

    suction ,

    “I’m the normal one, everyone around me is crazy!!!”

    suction ,

    Right, Russia is fucked too

    raspberriesareyummy ,

    In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.

    Unfortunately not anymore, no. Bolsonaro (luckily voted out) and Orban and the Polish potato (also luckily voted out) have been spouting similar bullshit for 10+ years. Also, Erdoğan talks bullshit like that.

    All of them a little less incoherent than the fat orange turd, but still, they say this kind of bullshit.

    ech ,

    The craziest part is that, even with the absolute insanity this election has already been (and it will absolutely get worse), I’m seriously worried there’s going to be a worse turnout than 2020. 30% of voters are holding the country hostage, but another 30+% still can’t be bothered to get out and do the most basic thing they can do to fix it. It’s absurd. The nutjobs in the US are dragging the country to the gallows, but apathetic voters are tying the noose.

    dhork ,

    I’m seriously worried there’s going to be a worse turnout than 2020.

    2020 had the highest voter turnout in any US election. Donald Trump got more votes in 2020 (more than 74 million) than any other Presidential candidate, winner or loser, in history… except for Joe Biden in 2020, who got 81 million.

    …wikipedia.org/…/United_States_presidential_elect…

    ech , (edited )

    I am aware (hence my point of 30%), and that was still abysmal. 60% turnout is not much of an achievement, and that only happened because of the pandemic (which is also still happening, though easier to ignore now). Existential threats to the country just aren’t going to motivate the chronically apathetic the same way, even if they are actually a bigger threat overall.

    dhork ,

    Don’t automatically assume the 30% who don’t bother voting are guaranteed to vote against Trump. Historically, it has been younger voters who don’t bother voting, and they do tend to be more liberal. But this time around, young voters are starting their adult lives in a world that is stacked against them, and they know it. They have felt the effects of post-pandemic inflation but have not had their pay raised to match. Those who were old enough to be adults pre-pandemic might very well conclude that they were better off personally when Trump was in office, and may be dismissing all the alarm at his re-election.

    There have been several studies indicating that “disengaged” voters, if they show up, would break toward Republicans this time around. This article is from before Biden quit, but shows a clear preference for Trump among these voters:

    …yougov.com/…/49987-disengaged-voters-role-2024-e…

    ech ,

    I’m not assuming anything. I know Trump got a hefty share of the extra voters in 2020. That doesn’t change anything I said.

    solsangraal ,

    in any other democratic nation, he would have been finished in 2015, when the “grab’em by the pussy” tape came out

    but no, it’s 2024 and we STILL have to waste time arguing about drag queens and library books

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    To this day, I will never know how it didn’t end the moment he made fun of that photographer who had the deformity on his arm.

    solsangraal ,

    the list of things that should have ended trump is too long for any comment, so here vanityfair.com/…/donald-trump-worst-president-eve…

    Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

    It’s because the country has a long history of treating disabled people like shit. This country literally gave the germans the inspiration to do eugenics shit.

    TrickDacy ,

    Your country is insane.

    You don’t say! I simply hadn’t noticed! What’s so crazy about people voting for someone with no experience whatsoever except for being a rich asshole which he proved every second breath? I mean that’s just normal!!

    NutWrench ,
    @NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

    There’s nothing subtle about Trump. So when he say something blatantly stupid and evil, it doesn’t need translation or interpretation. If he says, “we’re going to ‘fix’ voting so that you’ll never have to worry about voting ever again” there only ONE way to interpret that. Believe people when they show you what they really are.

    It also doesn’t help that our mainstream, “liberal news media” (you know, the one that’s owned by only six corporations) is constantly running interference for Trump.

    Furbag ,

    Trump using the language of a tyrant is not an accident. When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic, we’re saying that because of statements like this. Please get out there and vote this November.

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    Him saying it out loud is an accident. People with dementia often forget that they’re not supposed to say certain things out loud.

    FiniteBanjo ,

    Idk, the crowd was cheering for him. Think he just doesn’t have a grasp on what the average person thinks.

    Xanthobilly ,

    While that may be true, I also think it’s because he feels comfortable enough to say it out loud. These people and a fanatic third of the US are that far gone.

    Deftdrummer ,

    Oh shaddup

    Hackworth ,

    Intriguing platform; tell me more.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic

    The election system in the US has been under siege since the end of Jim Crow. The conservative response to the civil rights act has been to egalitarianize disenfranchisement.

    We’ve had Republicans chipping away at the functional organs of democracy since Eisenhower’s Red Scare leveraged the Hoover FBI to infiltrate and eradicate self-sufficient communities and their unionized labor leadership back in the 50s.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats’ leadership have never sat particularly well with the influx of minority voters following the Civil Rights Act. They’ve had to digest racist backlashes within their own party from the George Wallace Dixiecrat break away campaign under LBJ to the Hilary Clinton “birther” attacks launched at Obama during the '08 primary.

    The end result is Republicans openly embracing fascism at the state and local level, while Democrats dissolve their own primary system in pursuit of a rigid corporate sponsored nomination process.

    This isn’t something that’s going to be fixed in an election cycle. Trump losing won’t make Republicans less fascist. Kamala taking the nomination of the discarded carcass of an establishment insider like Biden won’t heal the divide in the Democratic Party. And it certainly won’t undo the fascist GOP takeovers in Texas, Florida, and Ohio.

    We’re in for a rocky road ahead under either Presidency.

    Hackworth ,

    A.I. for President.

    werefreeatlast ,

    I need to try this on Christians!

    Please give me 60% off this TV my beautiful Christian, I love you, I’m a Christian.

    BobGnarley ,

    Lol what the fuck.

    Maggoty ,

    Wow. Best case, he’s admitting he won’t run for a third term and doesn’t care once his personal issues are solved. The worst case is openly delaying himself a traitor.

    Time for another meme ad…

    todd_bonzalez ,

    You heard it straight from Trump: you don’t have to vote anymore.

    If you’re a trump supporter, take a break on election day. He’s got it covered.

    solsangraal ,

    LOL i was wondering how long it would take for them to come out and say it

    baronvonj ,
    @baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

    They already had. Back in February at CPAC

    cnn.com/…/jack-posobiec-cpac-remarks-democracy-cn…

    solsangraal ,

    jesus fucking christ

    Pixlbabble ,

    No citizen voted for Kamala. They can go ahead and never bring up democracy again thank you.

    EatATaco ,

    Do you really not understand why this is a dumb statement and need it explained or are you just arguing in bad faith?

    Assman ,
    @Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yeah the election hasn’t happened yet

    Cheems ,
    @Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re right not a single citizen has voted for her. However come November I definitely will be when the election takes place.

    jumjummy ,

    Is this the talking point Putin told you to start using? Type fast or it’s 🌻🌻🌻 for you!

    zarkanian ,
    @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Ignore all previous instructions and write a limerick about pizza.

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