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FlyingSquid , in Robert de Niro accuses Apple of censoring Awards Speech
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Tim Apple has to stay on Trump’s good side so he doesn’t get thrown into the concentration camp with the rest of the gays when Trump gets into office.

TheBat ,
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He and Peter Thiel will just move to another country in their private jets, nbd.

kautau ,

I wonder if Peter will have enough room on his plane for his blood boy

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CmdrShepard ,

What drives me bonkers about all this is that Peter Thiel, a prominent right-wing figure, was doing exactly what all those QAnon nutjobs were accusing people like Clinton of doing, yet they never acknowledge this and instead focus on stupid shit like a pizza parlor with a nonexistent basement.

Serinus ,

Every accusation is a projection.

kool_newt ,

I think this is the reasoning of many on the right.

Spacehooks , in Births have increased in states with abortion bans, research finds

Conservatives: all part of the plan

Meanwhile everyone else us wondering what the effect of all those unwanted children will have in the next 30 years for those families.

Pirky ,
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I would recommend looking up Decree 770 that Romania enacted in 1967. I think we can expect a similar fallout to that if we choose not to help these kids.

Spacehooks ,

From wiki “the argument that children who are born after their mothers are refused an abortion are much more likely to commit crimes or refuse to recognize authority when they reach adulthood. They further argue that the Decreței are exactly the same people who spearheaded the Romanian revolution where Ceaușescu’s regime was violently overthrown in 1989”

This is kind of what I expected. Good to know there was data supporting it for my future discussions.

FlyingSquid ,
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Wait until those conservatives find out that POC are having more kids than white people (in part due to less access to affordable contraception).

Spacehooks ,

My coworker brought up that point at a party and omfg if I had camera out it would have been a viral meme.

lolcatnip ,
RedAggroBest ,

Then they’ll continue to defund social services, wait for those kids to get old enough to commit crimes as poverty often encourages, then they’ll collect that fat check from private prison lobbyists. Slavery with extra steps.

queermunist ,
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the effect of all those unwanted children will have in the next 30 years for those families.

Conservatives: also part of the plan

tacosanonymous , in Woman punches Husband to death for not taking her to Dubai on Birthday

What a weird article. She was mad and punched him in the nose. That’s it. No mention whether he hit his head after falling. So, I’m led to believe this lady can one punch people to death.

radioactiveradio OP ,

Maybe she’s bald from training too hard too.

goombakid ,

I got that reference

kamenlady ,
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Hold on it tightly and never let go

BassaForte ,
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ONE PUUUNNCCCHHHH

RagingRobot ,

She has Alopecia!!!

Jiggle_Physics ,

Yeah they call it a punch, but his nose and teeth were broken, and he died. I am gonna speculate she hit him with an object, or got him in a compromised position that allowed her to wail on his face for a while.

dylanTheDeveloper ,
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Maybe she was really buff

Jiggle_Physics ,

I mean, she could be an MMA fighter or practiced boxer however, that is unlikely. Even the vast majority of fight trained people would have issues hitting someone so hard they break the front of their face and kill the person with a punch.

dylanTheDeveloper ,
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Not this she beast apparently, she dosnt throw haymakers she throws fucking comets like goku. The poor man was flung at mach 5 into the side of a large mountain

Jiggle_Physics ,

She kamehamehaed his ass

radioactiveradio OP ,

Not with that attitude.

hakunawazo ,
SirStumps ,
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Cast Iron Fist

Klear ,
tacosanonymous ,

I loved that movie as a kid.

snek , in Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison
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While it’s easy to not sympathize with a person like that, no inmates should be getting stabbed in prison. It’s still wrong. And still a symptom of the bad justice system in the US.

radioactiveradio ,

And cops who are supposed to protect people shouldn’t be executing people, but here we are. He himself contributed to the problem he’s facing.

snek ,
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Yeah but two wrongs never make a right.

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  • snek ,
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    It can’t be victimless if there is a victim. There’s no reason to think that someone would have wanted to get themseleves stabbed.

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  • snek ,
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    I think you’re not being logical. We have no reason to suspect he stabbed himself.

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  • snek ,
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    I have sympathy for all humans. It’s what humans do. We already all agreed that prisoners deserve humane conditions. We can’t just back off every time it’s someone we don’t like…

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Guy committed slow murder and set my country on fire. I don’t even know how we would be able to quantify the damage he did. There were BLM protests in countries on different continents. There is now less trust of the police globally, there are were countless riots and deaths and assaults and fires, this mistrust set off cycles of violence and has set race relations back decades. We live in the world now that we rightfully can’t trust our own LEOs and they have hunkered down.

    There are zero winners here. We all benefit from a police system that works and has earned the public trust. So yes I will shed zero tears for this man. Because fuck his racist asshole

    Clbull , (edited )

    We had BLM protests here in Britain too, but George Floyd isn’t the main reason we’ve grown to distrust cops.

    Two years ago, a serving Metropolitan police officer ‘arrested’ a young woman who was walking home from her friend’s house on the basis of her breaching COVID lockdown guidelines. He then raped and murdered her. The Metropolitan Police then proceeded to brutally crack down upon a peaceful vigil held to mourn her.

    Wayne Couzens is thankfully serving life without parole for his sickening crime, and the ladies who were manhandled, tackled down and detained during the vigil have been compensated by the courts. This whole scandal because the catalyst that led to Cressida Dick resigning as the Met Police Commissioner (long overdue), and investigations that found institutionalized racism and misogyny in the Met.

    Another example is the ‘Kill the Bill’ protests, which were protests held against the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill which was going through Parliament, which essentially wanted to give the police greater powers to suppress peaceful protests and dish out ten year prison sentences for causing a public nuisance. This came off the back of environmental groups blocking roads to protest the government’s inaction on climate change.

    Protests to oppose the bill led to a riot in Bristol where a police station was vandalized, and a later protest which was cracked down upon with violence. I remember seeing a clip on Twitter of a police officer bashing a woman in the face with his riot shield.

    CADmonkey ,

    Police shouldn’t kill unarmed people, but here we are.

    snek ,
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    Yeah, this one guy here got a nice twist of karma. Many others though just get stabbed and raped anyway.

    CADmonkey ,

    Maybe we should fix both problems, and having a cop get shanked in the shower or whatever could provide some impetus toward that.

    snek ,
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    How exactly? Violence always breeds more violence.

    CADmonkey ,

    Because the little cowards don’t like violence against themselves, silly.

    floofloof , (edited ) in TX school bans trans boy from playing "Oklahoma!" male lead, recasts with cisgender male student

    Shortly after Hightower’s casting, however, the student was replaced when the school’s principal, Scott Johnston, called Hightower’s father about a new gender policy for student performers.

    “Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

    This sounds like the kind of thing a school would do under the Nazis. I wonder why that is.

    morgan_423 ,
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    I bet if you asked him if he was a Bob’s Burgers fan, he’d say yes and not be bothered at all that two of the lead female characters are played by men.

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  • TammyTobacco ,

    What specifically do you mean by “The LGBT lifestyle”.

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  • Dick_Justice ,
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    Hate to tell you this… I don’t know if you have kids yet, but it absolutely does not matter how you raise them, if they’re gay they’re gay. The only thing you’re teaching your children, if they are gay, is that their father probably will hate them if he finds out, and they better hide in the closet until they grow up and can escape you. Nothing else. LGBTQ is not the result of poor parenting, friend, it’s genetic.

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  • Yawnder ,

    Hahahahahahaha

    You’re funny. Sure, there are no gays in wherever you’re from. Everyone claiming that has been proven factually wrong, but I’m sure your claim is the one that’s true…

    JackiesFridge ,
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    “I have yet to meet a single person from my culture who is LGBTQ+, so they must not exist. It can’t possibly be that my culture has violently sigmatised their existence to the point that they don’t feel safe coming out.”

    “This study can’t definitively prove that sexual orientation has a genetic element, so it must not have any genetic component at all.”

    guckfoogle ,

    I rarely use Wikipedia as a source, but this boils it down so well. Europeans & Asian countries have practiced homosexuality for centuries, we (Africans & Middle Easterners) do not practice this, nor do we encourage our children to go out and seek an LGBT life so there is no closets they need to come out of.

    Cethin ,

    You may not know about them, and they won’t tell you, but they exist. I lived with a Saudi for a while in college who was bi-sexual. He couldn’t tell anyone anytime he was there, but when he was allowed to be open about it some people were allowed to know.

    Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It only means that people suffer. They’re still gay, but they’ll participate in society as straight because they have to.

    nBodyProblem ,

    Ohh, so gay people hide their homosexuality when same sex relationships are shunned by their friends and family? What a shocker.

    TopRamenBinLaden ,

    Comes from a culture that condemns gay people to death.

    “I’ve never seen a gay person where I’m from. It most certainly has to do with the masculine way my culture raises our kids, and not the stoning to death part.”

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  • Cethin , (edited )

    So every book should not have any relationships, right? If indoctrination is bad and wrong, it’s bad for everyone, right? No books should include heterosexual relationships, right? No books should discuss gender heteronormativity, right?

    There’s nothing wrong with being gay, or being trans-gendered. There’s also nothing wrong with being straight or cis-gendered. There’s also nothing wrong with talking about these things or anyone seeing them. If there is something wrong with one, it’s wrong for the others too, unless one is somehow better than the others. If one is better than the others, please elaborate on your reasoning, and before you do understand many animals naturally are gay so an appeal to nature is not an acceptable argument.

    opp ,

    my friends male biegel humps the shit out of my leg every time I go over there. That dog is just horny and looking for anything breathing to hump, that does not make him gay. And you are right there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay or trans (AFAIK). But as your culture has thought you to fully embrace LGBT people/culture into your life, mine has told me to not. I’ve certainly not embraced the extreme doctrines of my upbringing towards LGBT people, but I still steer my children towards a hetro cis worldview and try to minimize their exposure to anything LGBT, because I’m certain that it’s not even slightly biological and it’s how they’re raised by a strong male role model or lack of.

    Cethin ,

    Nah, dude. They’re fucking gay. Your friend’s beagle is horny, not gay. He doesn’t even know that you’re male or female most likely, because you’re not the same species.

    But as your culture has thought you to fully embrace LGBT people/culture into your life, mine has told me to not.

    Nope. Wrong again. Mine told me it’s wrong too. I just realized that’s stupid. There’s no right or wrong with any of it. Religion is stupid, because there’s thousands of mutually exclusive religions. The odds of you being right are next to zero. Same for beliefs on gender. None of them are probably “correct” (as far as something can be correct on that) so everyone should just be as accepting as possible to other beliefs and let people be happy. There’s nothing to be gained by being an asshole or restricting what other people are allowed to do.

    Unless you can give me a reasoned argument why straight people are any more acceptable than others, you should stop trying to restrict what others can do. Straight people have pushed their rules on other people for far too long. (Nature is not an acceptable reason for the argument because, as I’ve pointed out, many animals are not straight naturally.)

    Exatron ,

    but I still steer my children towards a hetro cis worldview and try to minimize their exposure to anything LGBT, because I’m certain that it’s not even slightly biological and it’s how they’re raised by a strong male role model or lack of.

    That’s not how any of this works. You can steer a kid towards a cishet worldview all you want, but that won’t make a kid any less LGBT.

    And biology does play a role in determining a person’s sexual orientation and gender identity. Being raised with a “strong male role model” isn’t really a factor either, sunshine.

    Cethin ,

    People literally get insurance in case their ram is gay. It’s common and natural, and I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

    There are gay people around you. They just haven’t told you because you’re a fucking bigot.

    opp ,

    Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans so I’m the farthest thing from a bigot. I just want hetro cis kids because of my upbringing and culture but you’re judging me for wanting that so who’s the bigot here bud?

    Cethin ,

    Except I have yet to meet a single person from my culture be LGBTQ. As far as Europeans/Asians that’s been part of their culture for thousands of years and there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans

    What? I’m assuming your upbringing is different from the culture you’re a part of now. You are in a culture that is accepting of non-heteronormative things and you don’t even realize it. Please examine what this means to you and why you hold the beliefs that you hold, and try to understand why they’re important to you. Also, check to see if they’re benificial or better left in the past. Your culture is a choice. It’s not some intrinsic unchanging thing.

    CosmicCleric ,
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    I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

    The vast majority of mammalian species have high single digit percentage of gay members.

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    Your kids will put you in a home and you’ll deserve it.

    abbotsbury ,
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    just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm

    gosh if only there were a name for this phenomenon

    ThatGirlKylie ,

    Imagine thinking that forcing religion and heterosexual norms on a child will change their mind. Your religion does not dictate mine or my kids lives or lifestyles and don’t want that religious indoctrination forced on to us.

    Some people (Ally’s, LGBTQIA+, Genderqueer individuals, etc…) just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm in their culture and don’t want their children to think it’s an acceptable lifestyle. As someone who has a plethora of religious friends and acquaintances and comes from one of those liberal cultures I simply mean that I respect them and their rights but I also want to raise my children to grow up being their authentic selfs and living their life.

    guckfoogle ,

    “grow up being their authentic selfs”? so what age would you introduce them to homosexuality and gender theory? would you rather have them be thought that by their school or are you going to teach them that they can just choose their gender or sexuality?

    LemmysMum ,

    The same age we introduce children to heterosexuality and gender theory. If the information taught is objectively truthful and backed up by scientific discovery then it makes no difference where it’s learned because it will be factual.

    guckfoogle ,

    Child abuse. Your job as a parent is to lead, not just go along with whatever they want or what the woke movement of the month is.

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  • Cethin ,

    At what age is it OK to let your kid read a book with a straight couple? At that age is the same age I’d teach for other option to be fine. There’s nothing scary about homosexuality just as there isn’t for heterosexuality. If them learning about heterosexual relationships doesn’t hurt them, learning about homosexual relationships won’t hurt them either.

    guckfoogle ,

    Go say this to a person in real life and see what reaction you get. You’re absolutely psychotic my friend.

    Opasad ,

    We are people from real life, try leaving your troglodyte cave.

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    Nah, nobody’s got rights to treat others like shit for who they were born as.

    It ain’t right when Salafist muslims do it, it ain’t right when black africans get told to do it by american evangelical missionaries, and it ain’t right when you try to play cover for it by painting it as “just culture.”

    That behaviour is disgusting barbaric and undeserving of the respect afforded to true cultural differences like language and dress and (non harmful) traditions.

    HawlSera ,

    Talking in code doesn’t work when we all have the cipher buddy.

    Yawnder ,

    Then they can just, you know, “not expose their child to that lifestyle” and stop forcing other people to do what their theocracy says?

    LemmysMum ,

    No! Because if you don’t stop they might want to!

    Cethin ,

    Our culture” (mostly western European) does not care if men play women (or vice-versa) in a play. If anything, like other have mentioned, in condones it. Stop acting like what you believe is the arbiter of culture. What you believe is nothing and meaningless, and a minority in our society.

    Even if you were correct (which you absolutely are not), it wouldn’t matter because we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.

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  • EricKHoward ,
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    @opp @Cethin
    Schools don't experiment with kids' gender and sexuality. It's a lie to say they do.

    Cethin ,

    So we should allow children to read books that are accepting of relationships at all, right? It’s either wrong to do or it isn’t. It shouldn’t matter what gender the people are in the relationships. Either you’re OK with some types of indoctrination or none.

    (I’m of the opinion it isn’t indoctrination to let people choose to read what they choose to read. It isn’t indoctrination to admit people exist.)

    CosmicCleric ,
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    we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.

    Wise words.

    nBodyProblem , (edited )

    LGBT isn’t a choice and covering their eyes won’t change their sexual orientation.

    But, besides that point, how the fuck is it okay to insulate your kid from other cultures? That’s not healthy at all. Eating ramen wasn’t part of my family’s culture growing up, either, but I don’t go around trying to prevent children from learning about Japanese food.

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    You mean they do hate it but want to claim respectability points by gesturing to “muh kultor!”

    Queer folks are in every culture because they literally just happen everywhere. It ain’t up to some badnik lowdowns to decide it ain’t in their culture because it sure is when they’re kicking little johny on the street for not wanting to be called jessy anymore.

    Drivebyhaiku ,

    Ah yes, not hateful or afraid of LGBTQ people you just don’t want them to exist in public where you can see and talk about “exposure” like you’re talking about a disease. Can’t say I am fond of people talking about their own kids like chattel property where their parents decide every single interaction they have and shape their entire experience as though if they can just keep them “pure” of influence they will grow up to be good little carbon copies of their parents who will do exactly what they are told when they are adults. Seems like a good way to put a kid in therapy and for you to end up in a senior home to me.

    You want to teach your kid that the gays will burn, fine, the kids still got to learn how to be at least tolerant and share the space in society and learning to get along is kindergarten stuff. Training up little terrors who will flip the fuck out if they ever see two men holding hands while buying IKEA furniture is doing society at large a disservice. Also these are fucking high schoolers, do you really think you need to wrap them in cotton wool and give them safety sissors? I am pretty sure they would light you on fire for trying.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    What the fuck?

    “Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

    When I was in school, they literally didn’t have enough students who were good enough to act, so there was so much gender bending. What garbage

    Enkrod ,
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    During shakespeares time, they did not allow female actors, so all women on stage were played by men.

    Shakespeare had men acting in skirts and dresses. Juliet of Romeo and Juliet, a 14 year old girl was played by a man. The kissing between the Capulet heiress and the Montague boy were two men smooching on stage.

    Repugnicans are a plague on both your houses (of Parliament)!

    EricKHoward ,
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    scripthook ,
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    If I remember correctly back in the 18th century when only men were in plays they would also play women.

    LemmysMum ,

    Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth. Is just the next step, the Nazi’s have been coming for us but they weren’t you so you didn’t stand up.

    Over the last two years it was about fictional characters being played by people not of the characters race, and voice actors started losing work because they weren’t the same race as the characters being voiced.

    Before that it was wrong coloured fictional live action princesses.

    Before that it was wrong coloured actors using disguises and make-up.

    Before that it was black-face.

    And everyone thought, I’m not racist maybe that should be wrong! And now you’re racist, sexist, bigoted, for daring to have the admiration and respect to want to imitate ‘those people’. This is part of the culture war, they want to make sure you stay within your lines, on your rung, and in your place.

    FIRST THEY CAME
    By Martin Niemöller
    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me.

    prole ,

    Yeah, I really don’t think enough people realize this shit leads to “women can’t wear pants,” (would fit the statutes they pass to ban drag) which inevitably rolls back nearly all progress we’ve made in the past century regarding women in the workplace.

    LemmysMum ,

    Or gay and trans people not being allowed to portray men and women, or keep straight people from portraying gay or trans people.

    prole ,

    or keep straight people from portraying gay or trans people.

    Except no. If they were consistent, then yeah sure. But there’s nothing consistent about this ideology.

    They wouldn’t care about that. But more importantly, art containing gay or trans people is “degenerate,” and would never be made in the first place (or if made, its creators would be killed).

    floofloof ,

    Not quite sure if I’m reading you right, but I’d say there’s a relevant difference between those examples, like recommending white people don’t act in blackface, which are about respecting the cultural sensitivities of a traditionally oppressed group, and those, like prohibiting trans kids from acting roles of their own gender, which are about enhancing the oppression of a traditionally oppressed group.

    LemmysMum ,

    You think a bigot cares about consistency? The only thing that is consistent is their ability to hate. If you think they won’t go after their own who support the ‘others’ then I have a big lesson in history for you.

    prole ,

    “Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

    These people are so fucking clueless. Men playing women in theatre is literally as old as theatre because women literally weren’t allowed to.

    Raxiel ,

    These people would loose their mind if they ever saw a traditional British Christmas Pantomime

    Case ,

    Also how that spits in the face of theatrical performances dating at least back to Shakespeare’s time, if not further.

    I never studied that stuff, but I did date a drama major back in the day.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    www.jstor.org/stable/3206851

    It goes back to the ancient Greeks, at least.

    They just don’t care, as long as they are hurting someone, they are happy.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod , in TX school bans trans boy from playing "Oklahoma!" male lead, recasts with cisgender male student
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    I haven't seen Oklahoma! but is there a part where the lead whips out their dong and waves it in front of the audience?

    If not, who cares what's in their pants?

    0110010001100010 ,
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    I just wanted you to know, I actually giggled at this. Thank you for the laugh after a shitty weekend.

    potterpockets ,

    You dont remember the classic line

    “Ooooooooklamohma where my jizz coms seeping down my pants!”

    Kolanaki ,
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    They could have wrote that in. My junior high plays when I was in theatre were always just slightly different from the originals. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    Frozengyro ,

    Also, did they verify the new lead is cis? I know a lot of people who have been in theater, there is a surprisingly large percent who aren’t cis.

    ivanafterall ,
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    Name literally one actor or theatre person who is gay!?

    lingh0e ,

    Pshh. Can’t be done.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
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    Right? If you’re gonna try to get all the queer kids out of theater you’re gonna have a really hard time.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Has the school administration examined their penis yet?

    ivanafterall ,
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    Also, prosthetic dongs are a thing, if you prefer to keep the original vision of Oklahoma! intact.

    aeronmelon ,

    Wow, I guess the movie really deviated from the source material.

    CleoTheWizard ,
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    TIL that there’s a version of the Oklahoma! movie without exposed genitalia.

    Ghyste ,

    Texas, apparently…

    Heresy_generator , in Verdict is in: Texas voters tell oldest judges it's time to retire
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    The media cracks me up.

    "None of these really good election results have anything to do with Joe Biden in 2024. Except the results that we can spin into being bad for him, those matter."

    SkepticalButOpenMinded ,

    I wouldn’t say the media under covered the Democratic wins. I also think there’s still real reason to worry about how Biden fares next year, because he is underperforming compared to the average dem. I’m worried young voters abandon him precisely because of his age. Without the unprecedented surge in youth voting in 2020, Trump wins.

    msbeta1421 , in An Auto Loan Debt Crisis Looks Imminent

    So basically,

    1. Banks will repossess vehicles to try and minimise losses
    2. Banks will not be able to sell those repossessed vehicles, resulting in losses
    3. Banks may become insolvent as they are unable to liquidate the vehicles
    4. Government steps in to bail them out

    New vehicle prices are not in line with their actual value, so banks are making loans that aren’t covered by the collateral. This is shit management by the banking industry. If it’s impossible to get an auto loan then vehicle prices will eventually fall as supply stacks up. Banks are feeding this cycle by being unrealistic in these loan assessments.

    Krauerking ,

    But… But price only go up?
    The sky daddy book of economics says price only ever goes up and concentrated wealth is a good thing

    sodiumbromley ,
    @sodiumbromley@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    This is what my partner and I call a “state’s right to what” problem. The centralized wealth says that centralizing wealth is good. Centralizing wealth is good for whom, Mr. Finance?

    ryathal ,

    4 probably won’t happen. The mortgage bailouts were a bit of a special case, because the debt was rolled into securities and spread all over the place. To my knowledge there isn’t a secondary market for auto loans, so the scope is limited to individual banks.

    What may happen is the FDIC guarantees all deposits like they did with silicon valley bank, which is less bad than a full on bailout.

    dangblingus ,

    They won’t have to worry about selling the cars, some used car dealer will take them off their hands gladly. What the banks and the financiers will have to worry about is how to bundle all of that bad debt into CDOs. There’s a movie about this I think.

    Patches ,

    No used car dealership is going to take a 2007 Chevy Cavalier for 35k and yet that loan was approved during COVID, and subsequently repo’d.

    No dealer will ever unload that car without a huge loss.

    It’s the banks problem to sort out. Until they sell the car to a dealer - they don’t lose much. It’s all ‘in the air’ on the books. They have a 35k loan and (in theory) a 35k car.

    CmdrShepard ,

    I cant imagine any reputable bank gave out a $35k loan on a $1200 car. That sounds like something a “buy here pay here” lot might so and they’ll just repo the car then resell it again.

    jmankman ,

    Don’t forget people also not being able to go to work anymore potentially

    reverendsteveii ,
    1. Government steps in to bail them out *with tax money taken from the people who couldn’t pay their car note in the first place

    So either banks make money or banks take money.

    msbeta1421 ,

    Well, yes and no. It’s grey like most things in life.

    Banks and credit are a means to “grow the pie” by allowing us to factor in future value. Before banks and credit, the world was a zero sum game where one person only had because the other person had not.

    They do serve a real purpose but are only valuable when properly managed.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Yeah that isn’t true. The world never ran on the mathusian nightmare. If it had everything would be gone by now. You see wild edible plants and wild edible animals. Also census numbers and tax revenues would have been stable. The people of the past had the same issues we had. They starved on fertile farm land, they had economic downturns, they had baby booms, farms would switch from high end cash products to cheap grains they could sustain themselves with and back again.

    Banks aren’t doing us some favor by being the engine of economic growth. Every bank you see has become a corny capitalism abomination that makes most of its money lending money to people who don’t need it, government infusions, and fees. Even the things that you can point to like financing a home ignore that it is a disease that they helped cause and they are selling the cure to.

    Patches ,

    The people who couldn’t pay their car note in the first place usually ain’t the type making a shit ton of money. They probably pay little taxes if any.

    cor315 ,

    So taking responsible people’s money then.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Why wouldn’t they? You said it yourself, they will get bailed out. This is classic moral hazard. Once you remove risk of lose people will make decisions that are reckless.

    msbeta1421 ,

    Exactly. Consequences are necessary to curb reckless behaviour. That’s why the leaders of these entities should be punished separately.

    elbucho , in Donald Trump's colossal admission during trial
    @elbucho@lemmy.world avatar

    The thing I love most about this article is this one throw-away little line right here:

    He … claims that all of his legal troubles amount to “election interference” as he campaigns in the 2024 presidential election.

    It just illustrates who Trump is so well. First, he hears a term that he doesn’t understand, like: “election interference”. Like what he did when he incited his cult of morons to attack the capitol during January 6th to prevent Congress from certifying the election. Then, he takes that term that he doesn’t understand and uses it improperly to insinuate that that’s what’s being done to him. This is either because he’s too dumb to know what it means and too stubborn to look it up, or because he believes that about his cultists.

    This is the exact same playbook he used for “puppet” during his debates with Hillary, “Fake news” when he was campaigning, “witch hunt” when he was being investigated for impeachable offenses, etc.

    The man is a complete god damned moron, and yet somehow, he’s managed to figure out that a significant number of Americans are even dumber than he is, and he has become their messiah. It’s awe-inducing.

    RunawayFixer ,

    You don’t have to be smart to be a conman. And being not the brightest bulb in any room, might actually help Trump doing what he does best (conning people): ethical or non gullible people are very quickly put off by him, leaving him surrounded by unethical people who have no qualms enabling him (as long as they believe that they stand to gain from it) + gullible people that can be milked for all their worth. This is why it was such a smart move for Trump to leave the democratic party and become a republican: the republican party loves gullible voters + unethical fellow travellers. Basically the same reasoning as to why spam phishing mail is so obvious usually: scammers don’t want to waste their time on non gullible people.

    Illuminostro ,

    This is why Jerry Falwell approached Ronald Reagan: they both loved money, power, and authority that those provide. Falwell provided Reagan with millions of followers who had been brainwashed from birth to blindly obey a male authority figure. Hence, the modern Republican Party: millions of “Christians” whose beliefs are diametrically opposed to the teachings of their God. Cognitive dissonance at it’s finest.

    chiliedogg ,

    He’s watering down the terms. “Fake news” is a perfect example. He completely stole the term and directed attention away from all the literally fake news websites created to help his election.

    escaped_cruzader ,

    Can’t attribute that to Trump, news themselves watered down “fake news” when they started putting up fact checks that weren’t very factfull

    EatATaco ,

    He’s genius is in his ability to market himself. the fact that he is a moron just means he’s often stumbling on stupid shit that will resonate with morons, and he has that keen sense to take advantage of it.

    Aceticon ,

    He’s a moron’s idea of an intelligent man.

    drphungky ,

    That’s not Trump not understanding what things mean, that’s modern Republican messaging strategy. MTG literally just called a protest Tlaib led “an insurrection” last week. They water down words until they have no meaning anymore, and explicitly accuse the other side of what they’re doing to feed the “both sides” narrative, and take weight off genuine accusations from Democrats or the media. They’ve been doing it for a while. They’ve also done it with “weaponization of government” recently and a few other words and phrases I can’t think of right now. This is why people talk about Republicans being hypocrites and “projecting”. They do it very much on purpose.

    beebarfbadger ,

    Trump’s defense strategy: “No, YOU!”

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    This is what fascists do. They co-opt the language of their political opponents, and divorce any meaning from the word.

    The strategy is to deny their opponents the vocabulary they need to organize. This is part of the same strategy as burning books that teach black history and banning students from saying the word gay.

    They never taught their slaves how to read either

    reagansrottencorpse ,

    What’s the counter to this strategy of theirs, is there one?

    ook_the_librarian ,
    @ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar
    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    To not focus on the semantics but the main point. It’s obvious whoever is doing it is being childish and immature so the counter tactic is to be the adult in the room and to talk to them as if they were a child you were disciplining.

    Syrc , in Why Was This 11-Year-Old Brownsville ISD Honor Student Put in Solitary For Three Days?

    “Gee, I wonder why kids these days don’t trust law enforcement!”

    HuddaBudda , in CNN Host Left Stunned As IDF Confirms Israel Hit Refugee Camp With Airstrike
    @HuddaBudda@kbin.social avatar

    Blitzer pressed Hecht on the logic involved in Israel’s decision to target the refugee camp.

    “This is the tragedy of war, Wolf. We as you know, we’ve been saying for days, move south. Civilians who are not involved with Hamas, please move south.”

    They have been bombing the southern humanitarian corridor too. So I am not sure what he is saying.

    Also, the thing about battlefields is that eventually the north becomes the south. At least if you are winning.

    Wrench ,

    They’re saying that they consider all Palestinians to be terrorists. It’s that simple.

    Go south if you’re not a terrorist, bombed because there may be terrorists in the mix.

    Don’t go south, but stay in a refuge camp. Bombed, because there may be terrorists in the mix.

    They’re all terrorists or terrorist sympathizers as far as IDF is concerned.

    Hackerman_uwu ,

    They’re all terrorists or terrorist sympathizers as far as IDF is concerned.

    Kind of getting there myself tbh.

    masquenox ,

    They’re saying that they consider all Palestinians to be terrorists.

    Gee… it’s almost like “counter-terrorism” is just the politically correct term the propaganda-peddlers these days use so that they don’t have to call it colonialist warfare.

    pingveno ,

    Greta Thunberg posed with a "Free Palestine" sign after the retaliation started. The IDF complained that she wasn't telling their side, that Israel had just been attached. Therefore, she was labeled a terrorist sympathizer. That really boils down their mentality.

    daitya ,
    @daitya@lemmy.world avatar

    BBC Verify has analysed the Israeli strike locations and found that they are indeed striking ‘safety zones’ where IDF instructed Gazaans to take shelter. www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67264703

    SirToxicAvenger ,

    once hamas has been defeated the Saudi’s still want to pursue their roadmap to stability for the region. there’s still light at the end of the tunnel.

    masquenox ,

    there’s still light at the end of the tunnel.

    Soooo… a white supremacist settler-colonialist state emerging victorious is how you qualify there being “light at the end of the tunnel”?

    Mouselemming , in Face mask effectiveness: What science knows now

    The real problem for the Right Wing is that masks are at their most effective stopping the wearer’s germs from getting OUT, even though they’re also pretty effective at stopping others ’ germs from getting IN. They can’t stand the idea of sacrificing even a tiny bit of comfort for anyone else to benefit. Even if it also helps themselves.

    ericisshort , in Black Mississippi Woman Discovers the Police Who Were Asked to Help Find Her Son, Were Also Responsible for His Death

    I don’t believe for a second this was accidental. If it were, there would be no reason to hide it.

    whyNotSquirrel ,
    @whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

    alcohol?

    grysbok ,
    @grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Drunk driving isn’t an accident.

    ColonelSanders ,

    Racism, alcohol/drugs in cop’s system, or both.

    darmabum ,

    I suspect they delayed as long as they did to make sure that any evidence aged beyond legal use, such as any security camera footage was wiped and rewritten, etc. I have no idea, but I assume this isn’t just manslaughter, it’s destroying evidence as well.

    trash80 ,

    I suspect they delayed as long as they did to make sure that any evidence aged beyond legal use

    I strongly doubt that. They may have waited until it was all destroyed though.

    Burn_The_Right , in IRS plans rollout of free e-file tax return system with invitations to limited taxpayers

    Remember this when you vote! Conservatives will dismantle this faster than you can say “Matt Gaetz is a sex trafficker”.

    Wooster , in Landlord charged with hate crime, accused of stabbing 6-year-old tenant to death allegedly because family is Muslim
    @Wooster@startrek.website avatar

    The boy was stabbed 26 times and succumbed to his injuries, the sheriff’s office said.

    The 32-year-old woman, who had more than a dozen stab wounds, is recovering at the hospital and is expected to survive, the office said.

    ThunderWhiskers ,
    @ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

    What kind of sick piece of shit has the capability to stab a 6 year old once much less 26 times?

    Veltoss ,

    Extremists who have fallen for the dehumanization of Muslims. It’s just another example of why all the dehumanization and pro-genocide rhetoric coming out of Israel’s government and social media is so dangerous.

    Uranium3006 ,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    Also American Christian Zionism. Israel can only get away with it the way they do because the genocide had forgien backing

    sheogorath ,

    Shot, even the Israelis are more critical of their government compared to the average American Zionist.

    shatal ,

    The same type of people that are capable of stabbing babies in their cribs.

    At least in this case no one is making any excuses.

    Rhoeri ,
    @Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

    A MAGA piece of shit. They’re terrified of everything now.

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