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PseudoSpock , in Some workers who rebuild homes after hurricanes are afraid to go to Florida. They blame a law DeSantis championed
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You get what you vote for.

EmpathicVagrant ,

Sometimes you get what lobbyists pay for or badly drawn district maps tell electoral voters the people wanted, even if the popular vote disagreed.

In short, not always.

Smoogs , in Brett Kavanaugh says justices are working on ‘concrete steps’ on ethics

Rapist says what?

Muetzenman ,
@Muetzenman@feddit.de avatar

Beer? I mean what?

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks , in Passenger on Ill-Fated Diarrhea Plane Says Flight Attendants Were Forced to Craft "Makeshift Biohazard Suits"

Is this the end result of trying not to poop for three days?

Selmafudd ,

Juice cleanse

Karyoplasma ,

Every form of “bowel cleanse” is useless at best and deletrious at worst. Usually leans towards the latter.

Rapidcreek , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

If he did it to the US while we were at war we would call it treason.

Neato ,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Instead he merely did it to a strong US ally to benefit a long-time US adversary. An adversary we have practically as many sanctions on as is feasible before it becomes a declaration of war.

I don't know what crime this is. Logan Act violation? But at this point Starlink is being used as a strategic asset in a US ally's war and should be seized by the US government as a military asset.

Rapidcreek ,

I’m sure that DOD lawyers are taring through the contract they signed with him. But, since the dumb SOB admitted to it, if the contract doesn’t have a provision to let him do this they can sue him under carriage laws. Ending with the government taking away his operating license and siezing his operating network. The DOD has been wanting to create their own such network in any case.

Yepthatsme , in Fulton County special grand jury recommended charges against Lindsey Graham and 2 Georgia US senators | CNN Politics

We always knew Lindsay was going to get his and here’s to him getting served 🍻

bloopernova , in Passenger on Ill-Fated Diarrhea Plane Says Flight Attendants Were Forced to Craft "Makeshift Biohazard Suits"
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

“ill-fated diarrhea plane”

What a beautiful phrase. Shakespearean.

DiatomeceousGirth ,

Maggie was on point with this article. “Defacatory disaster” is top tier journalism.

postmateDumbass ,

No “Crop dusting disaster”?

argh_another_username ,

Chef’s kiss for the image, with its brown trail.

Got_Bent ,

Snakes on a plane part doodoo?

FlyingSquid , in Disney tickets, PS5s, and big-screen TVs: Florida parents exploit DeSantis' school vouchers
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This is according to plan.

As the Tampa Bay Times reported, Step Up for Student’s new guide to approved expenses for recipients of PEP vouchers in the 2023-24 academic year authorizes the purchase of theme park tickets. Theme park tickets were previously a prohibited expense, but Step Up for Students’ “reconsidered after hearing from parents about the potential benefits.”

Other approved expenses for all homeschooled students this academic year include swing sets, foosball tables, air hockey tables, skateboards, kayaks, standup paddleboards, dolls, and stuffed animals.

Insanity. And, of course, this is homeschooling parents all doing this.

charles ,

Homeschoolers: the silent welfare queens

treefrog ,

This was what was going through my head too. Isn’t this welfare for DeSantis voters?

bingbong ,

Does it help minorities?

No, then it’s not welfare for desantis voters

gowan ,
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I can defend every single item on that list except air hockey tables when you consider physical education is part of schooling and stuffed animals can be used to communicate some concepts to young kids.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why does the state need to fund dolls and stuffed animals or any of those other things for homeschoolers when teachers have to buy those things out of their own pocket if they even do? And those kids don’t get to play with them after school. It’s a two-tiered system and it is absolutely unfair.

gowan ,
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The teachers are not buying swing sets for their schools.

Regardless nothing about my comment suggests teachers should oay for necessary things

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That doesn’t justify what I was talking about at all. And even in that case, the child gets to play with the swing set after school, unlike kids at public schools.

gowan ,
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Most public schools have playgrounds already. There are good educational reasons for kids to have them.

FlyingSquid ,
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Again- kids at public schools can only play on those playgrounds at recess. These homeschoolers can play with their swingsets all the time. That is a two-tiered system.

gowan ,
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And those kids parents can get the same money if they choose to homeschool. It isn’t a two tier system.

FlyingSquid ,
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Of course it’s a two-tier system. Do you think every parent is rich enough to survive on a single income while the other parent homeschools their children?

gowan ,
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My buddy is a poet and his wife works for the park services and despite an income of 50k a year they make it work.

Im not sure you understand how many people who aren’t rich homeschool because they cannot afford daycare.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How does a single parent make it work?

gowan ,
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Welfare though I doubt any single parent is homeschooling. In my buddy’s case they are part of an atheistic group of homeschoolers and they share teaching responsibilities.

FlyingSquid ,
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You think welfare is enough to sustain a single parent so they can homeschool? Really? Do you know how low welfare payments are?

It’s virtually impossible for most single parents to homeschool and I think you know that.

So it’s two-tiered.

gowan ,
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No but I don’t think every single social program needs to be utilized by everyone.

Why should people like my buddy’s kid not have access to swings?

Do you support college loans being paid off?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why should people like a single mother not have access to the same vouchers despite their children going to public school? Or does that particular social program not need to be utilized by everyone?

gowan ,
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They do have access to these programs but they likely cannot use them. Unless you want an incredibly authoritarian system there cannot be a state where all programs will be used by everyone.

FlyingSquid ,
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No they don’t. If your child goes to public school, you don’t get voucher money.

gowan ,
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It is your choice in theory that determines whether you use it. Single parents are not barred from the programs.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I thought programs should be utilized by everyone? I guess public school kids aren’t part of everyone.

gowan ,
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Go back and read my posts. I said available to everyone and they are available to everyone. If your circumstances mean you cannot avail yourself of them that does not mean they were not available.

Is that really that hard to wrap your brain around?

FlyingSquid ,
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If your circumstances mean you have no choice to put your children in public school because you’re a single mother working two jobs just to support your children, it is not available to you. It simply isn’t. I have no idea why you think everyone can homeschool just because you know someone who does.

gowan ,
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Your confusion seems to be what available means.

The state is not preventing single parents from accessing it. It IS available to the single parent. The only people who cannot access this are childless people.

FlyingSquid ,
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You seem to not know what a two tiered system means. A single mother working two jobs has no possibility of accessing that money. Again, you think anyone can homeschool and that is patently false.

gowan ,
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I don’t think everyone can homeschool. I never said they could.

A single parent being unable to afford to homeschool does not mean the money is not available to them. The money is available but their circumstances prevent its use. That is why I said your confusion is over what “available” means.

Your inability to homeschool does not mean the program is not available to you. You could choose to homeschool and get the money if you want.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think everyone can homeschool. I never said they could.

Thank you for admitting it’s a two-tiered system.

gowan ,
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That does not make it two tiered. The poor person could choose to homeschool and access these funds. They are available to anyone with kids.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Nonsense. How could they ‘choose to homeschool’ if that would mean they couldn’t afford to feed their children?

And don’t say ‘welfare’ again. Florida is a welfare to work state, that means you can only be on it for a limited time while you look for a job.

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

The availability of the funds is based on whether you choose to homeschool not whether it makes financial sense for you to do so which us why I keep saying they are in fact available to all parents because they are.

If they will talk to you Ultra Orthodox Jews can explain exactly how you do this as there are thousands of people in those communities who homeschool and have no income.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Again, some people can’t make that choice. Because it isn’t always a choice. You say you don’t think anyone can homeschool, but you keep talking as if they can. Unless everyone can homeschool, there are two tiers because some people are literally unable to access those funds. They do not have that choice to make. So no, they aren’t available to all parents since they aren’t available to poor single mothers working multiple jobs. They cannot make the choice to homeschool no matter how much you think they have that option available to them.

gowan ,
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The fact that they have the choice is why I can say that the money is available.

You keep saying they don’t have a choice but they do even if the other option is bad.

The only ones who are denied access to this money are people with no kids or whose kids graduated

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This is like saying I have the choice to buy a Ferrari because there’s no law saying I can’t buy a Ferrari. That’s not what ‘choice’ means.

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

No it’s like saying you have an option to participate in x program but choose not to because of y. No one is stopping you from accessing x other than your choice which is exactly what these people are facing.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So they chose to be poor?

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

Now you’re just arguing in bad faith. The fact that they can choose to take the money means the program is available to all parents of school aged children.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How can they choose to take the money if they can’t choose to homeschool their kids? The only answer I can come up with based on what you are saying is that they are choosing to be poor.

gowan ,
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The fact that they cannot take the money because of other circumstances does not mean they are being prevented from accessing it. Since they aren’t being prevented from accessing this money by anyone other than their own decisions you cannot claim the money is not available to them. It is available and they are choosing not to take it.

It really seems like you do not understand what “available” means.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The fact that they cannot take the money because of other circumstances does not mean they are being prevented from accessing it.

Huh? That is literally what that means.

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

You need to look up what “available” means then because that is your confusion. There is milk available to me right now but my choice not to drink it because Im lactose intolerant does not impact the fact it is available to me.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Nope. You can still drink milk if you’re lactose intolerant unless you can’t afford milk. You can’t access that money unless you can afford homeschooling or private schooling.

Again, this is no different from claiming I have access to a Ferrari. I just can’t afford one.

gowan ,
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Ok now you need to learn what “access” means. Im hoping English is not your primary language.

That is a false equivalence as you will be stopped for attempting to purchase a Ferrari if you do not have the money. In fact they credit check you before any talk of the deal begins.

In the case of this program NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU OTHER THAN YOU WHICH IS WHY IT IS AVAILABLE TO YOU.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Except the fact that the money is only available to people who don’t have kids in public school, and they can’t have kids in private school or homeschool them, so they do not have access to those funds. They simply don’t.

gowan ,
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They do because they can choose to homeschool. As the only thing that is preventing them from taking this money is their own decisions and choices it is completely inaccurate to claim it is not available. It is available and they choose not to take it.

If someone stopped them then you could claim it isn’t available but that is not the case.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Again- a single mother working two jobs cannot choose to homeschool no matter how many times you claim they can. That is not a choice they can make. It isn’t. Why you keep saying it is, that’s beyond me.

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

The fact they they are making a choice is why we can say it is available. If they could not choose it then it would not be available.

Im not joking you really do not seem to understand what “available” means. You really want this to be two tiered and it isn’t. I promise you that the Ultra Orthodox community next to me is both very poor and almost entirely homeschooled through Yeshivas.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They aren’t making a choice. They can’t make a choice. They have only one option. Why don’t you understand that? There is absolutely no way they could choose to homeschool their kids. None.

gowan ,
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Because they do have a choice. Im not trying to be an asshole here but you really seem to not understand the words you are using here.

They have a choice to take the money and homeschool or not take the money and send their kids to public. The fact that they cannot make ends meet if they took the homeschooling money does not make it unavailable to them.

The fact that they can choose to take the money means it is available.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How do they have that choice if they can’t afford to make that choice? That makes no sense.

gowan ,
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Because their decision not to take the money is a choice.

The only way it would be not available to them would be if someone else was preventing them from taking the money. That is not the case. The money is available but they are not taking it.

The only people this money is not available to are people with adult children or childless adults.

stringere ,

Yes but for each swingset purchsed using state funds for a homeschool kid provides for 1 student whereas each swingset purchased using state money can provide for multiple classrooms of students.

That homeschool swingset is now private property not useable by anyone else that helped pay for it.

People choose homeschooling, fine. Homeschool should never be funded by the public, unless public school is not available or the student cannot attend for legitimate reasons.

You choose to homeschool? Great, you homefund it, too.

Saneless ,

So you’re for teachers actually getting money to buy things for their classrooms now instead of using their own?

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

What about my post would make you think i did not always support teachers having what they need?

Saneless ,

They’re not getting this voucher money, and the “parents rights” dopes would cry hard if they were buying this shit

bizzle ,
@bizzle@midwest.social avatar

Air hockey is a sport if Foosball is, I’m not disagreeing with you I just was wondering why you draw the line at air hockey

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

I missed foosball and neither should count as physical activity

rez_doggie ,

Gotta create cannon fodder for the military industrial complex somehow.

AssPennies , in Passenger on Ill-Fated Diarrhea Plane Says Flight Attendants Were Forced to Craft "Makeshift Biohazard Suits"

We call it: “The Aristocrats”!

Sexywolfwizard ,

“Aristocraps”

CarbonatedPastaSauce , in Some workers who rebuild homes after hurricanes are afraid to go to Florida. They blame a law DeSantis championed

I can see Florida becoming the new Detroit over the next few storm seasons because of this.

Once the rot takes hold it’s a ton of work to reverse.

ryathal ,

It won’t go that far unless people stop wanting to live in Florida. Since they are still building condos at the 500k+ level as fast as possible, I doubt they see significant decline.

UristMcHolland ,

Those condos are going to be 5M+ when every insurance company refuses to do business in Florida.

sin_free_for_00_days , in Antarctica warming much faster than models predicted in ‘deeply concerning’ sign for sea levels

‘deeply concerning’ sign for sea levels

Ha. I see what you did there.

breadsmasher , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

putin ballhandler chose to fuck over ukraine?

theodewere ,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

what he really wants is to slide into Putin's seat, and play the whole world the same way Vlad does

Neato ,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Man, I hope he tries that and moves to Moscow. The oligarchs would eat him alive and it would be some prime schadenfreude to watch.

theodewere , (edited )
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

would he have to even visit Moscow though.. i don't see Putin doing much in public anyplace.. where the hell does he hide all day.. and what makes you think Putin is brave enough to show himself in front of oligarchs..

cloudpunk , in Suspected Chinese operatives using AI generated images to spread disinformation among US voters, Microsoft says

We’re really going to be fucked once AI figures out we only have 4 fingers and a thumb per hand.

UnknownQuantity ,

Shhh!

TheFriar ,

I love that they say, “the Statue of Liberty has four fingers” (and that’s how you know this was planted by a foreign agent provocateur), when the title says, “democratic & Freedoms.”

wsweg ,

Well, considering the amount of memes with broken English that Trump supporters shit out, that’s probably not the best indication.

Anders429 , in Americans Are Less Motivated to Work This Year Compared to Last, New Data Shows

Paywall article :/

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Underrated comment.

Franzia ,

Archive.is, 12ft.io

Still notable that the article is paywalled lmao

son_named_bort ,

That sounds like work, I’m not motivated to do that.

Franzia ,

Yea, I feel that. Fair.

foggy , in Walmart cuts starting hourly pay for some workers

When you didn’t think they could be more evil:

Daisyifyoudo ,

Oh quit being so obtuse. They only generated 143 billion dollars in profit last year. How can they be expected to pay their employees a living wage like that??

drdabbles ,
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

After all, if they took 140 of that billion and divided it among their 2.1 million global retail employees, that’d only be 66,666 each with a 1.4 million left over. Hardly worth doing, obviously. After all, what will the shareholders say??

foggy ,

So they could increase all wages at or below of $10 to $43 and still get bonuses.

God don’t you love America?

spriteblood ,

Yeah plus they have over 2 million associates per their website. Even if they COULD give everybody a raise, that's only like $70,000 per person.

GiddyGap , in Brett Kavanaugh says justices are working on ‘concrete steps’ on ethics

Must be nice to decide for yourself which rules will apply to you.

lettruthout ,

Yeah, our US police have been doing it for years.

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