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ChicoSuave , in the trees are fed up

The cool metal didn’t move at first when his finger tipped the trigger. Taking a breathe, the Lorax exhaled, “I speak for the trees for the trees have no tongues.” The sound of a lumber executive falling had no sound.

Currens_felis ,

Lorax gone assassin

Ragdoll_X , in Took me a minute.
@Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world avatar

I was a bit disappointed to learn that math-related Python packages don’t seem to have an ln function. They all use log for the natural log and also have a log10.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted ,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Well that’s annoying…

NightAuthor ,

Make your own package, or just macro that shit.

janAkali ,

You know what’s even more dissapointing? bc - arbitrary precision calculator for linux shell uses ‘l’ for natural log, just a single letter.
And there’s no other log function, so when you need logx(y) you write: ''l(y)/l(x)".

Afrazzle ,

Base e is considered the natural logarithm and is what you’ll get if you call log in most programming languages targeted at math.

Redex68 ,

Why is that, off the top of my head I don’t remember seeing base e logarithms too often, why are they so important?

LaLiLuLuCo ,

They get used all over especially in differential equations.

Log10 basically only comes up in statistics for doing a log plot in base 10.

Basically high school math won’t use the natural log much, but once you hit university higher level math it becomes apparent it’s the one everyone actually uses regularly.

Ozzy ,

even Matlab suffers from this

vivadanang ,

suffers?

Ozzy ,

Yes? Suffer -> Suffering / Suffers ? Is this not correct?

grue ,
WilloftheWest ,

That’s because mathematicians use log for the natural logarithm. Log base 10 would be log_10

balderdash9 OP , in For science!
Colour_me_triggered , in Great deal ngl

Fascists in communist clothing. Skullfuck their corpses!

NoiseColor ,

They are so far from being communist right now. They are just using communism as a mask.

cnnrduncan ,

Ayy kinda like most of the authoritarian state capitalist countries they idolise

NoiseColor ,

Exactly like that! Most don’t even care about ideology, maybe they never did.

ComradePorkRoll , in You did it Mary!

They could’ve paid for all of the UAW’s asks and then some with just that but it’s less about the money and more about trying to look strong. The reality is they are nothing without their workers, no company is.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Just like how the losses the entertainment industry has suffered due to the writers and actors strike could have paid for their demands 10 times over. This is 100% about stripping the power from workers and keeping the power in the C suite.

MNByChoice ,

I wonder if the companies were expecting a recession to strengthen their hand. Turns out, we don’t need them.

instamat ,

Gotta keep them (us) peons in their (our) place!

empireOfLove , in android companies vs apple

What the fuck is a thread radio

WeirdAlex03 ,
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There’s a new protocol for smart home devices called Matter, that let’s them work across ecosystems (so for example smart lights set up with Google Home could be controlled through Apple HomeKit via Matter). Thread is part of how Matter devices communicate with each other (instead of e.g. WiFi or Bluetooth). The new iPhones can directly use Thread instead of needing another devices to act as a bridge to “translate” the commands

A fairly niche addition, but definitely not useless. And a big plus for those into smart home stuff

jannis ,

I think it’s more useful than those glyphs on the nothing phone. They’re just a gimmick to sell a mediocre mid-end phone

ABC123itsEASY ,

Eh not really if you’re actually using mesh networked smart home devices that run on zigbee/thread/wave/matter or whatever you’re using some kind of controller with one of those radios in it. Using your phone as the only controller basically means you’d only be able to control/talk to those devices when your phone is on and at home, so forget any kind of automations if you’re not around. If you already have a controller, it’s most certainly networked so having a matter radio in your phone is basically pointless.

sloppy_diffuser ,

Yeah it is a wierd flex I’ve been trying to wrap my head around.

I’m kind of wondering if this move is just a data grab. Matter gives controllers a lot of insight into how smart products are used. Only iPhone in the house is for your teen so they don’t have that “dreaded” green text? As soon as you let them on your Matter network as a controller they now know when you turn your lights on and off, lock your doors, etc.

Thing is, this doesn’t (or at least shouldn’t) require a Thread radio. A controller on the phone can still get this info so long as one border router exists in the Thread PAN on the same network as the phone.

Everything is encrypted in Matter so you would have to be a controller to get any good data. With that, I doubt its just for passively farming packets over the air.

I guess it could be used to control devices remotely during a network outage if one person with an iPhone is home since its a local only protocol.

The radios are cheap enough that I guess they could be just throwing it in there without a great use case to generate buzz. Cost of radios is a drop in the bucket for most marketing budgets.

Head scratcher for sure.

paddytokey ,

Notably the homepod mini had thread radios and could act as a thread router as one of the earliest devices out there, might be that apple is going to push harder for this and has plans for it’s own thread enabled Smart Home products.

empireOfLove ,

Huh. Did a little reading and it honestly does sound pretty useful. I’m not crazy about the corporate sponsorship of the consortium but there’s a lot of open source licensing to promote adoption so it’s not all bad. Neat. I could get behind doing a couple little custom home automation projects using that kind of network.

quantenzitrone , in Every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp-dressed man.

80° very good angle, yes

lostme ,

It’s not right though

TWeaK ,

That’s a very obtuse pun.

Turun ,

What’s the joke? Cos I only get 17.4% of it.

GCostanzaStepOnMe , in The frogs

Who tells them about daylight savings?

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Bill. He’s cool.

usualsuspect191 ,

That’s actually the exact days they start and stop just to avoid it

Viking_Hippie ,

Jeremiah. I mentioned it to him one time while I was helping him drink his wine. .

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

He was a bullfrog after all …

Viking_Hippie ,

Indeed. A good friend of mine as well

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar
jaybone ,

Their phone auto update.

tja ,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

But still, the sun will not rise everyday at the same time

Etterra , in I never understood this logic

That’s because it’s not logic - it’s propaganda. The war on drugs was always built on a solid bedrock of oppressing minorities, black people in particular.

Daft_ish ,

What? White people like smoking weed? Well its probably ok then. What? White people enjoy opioids? Oh no, it’s a crisis we better get people the help they need. Don’t worry big pharma drug dealers, you can keep your fortune, just say sorry.

Blackmist , in I’ll fight anyone who shits on Gen Z

As a gen X it’s just nice to be remembered that I exist.

Still, I own my own home without my parents having to die, so I’ll rub that in your faces if you try to make me feel old.

slacktoid ,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

Just fucking die already old dude /s

Wage_slave ,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

Fucking thank you.

Gen X are old dudes. NOT boomers. I really appreciate that you made the distinction.

Have a rad day.

slacktoid ,
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  • does an 360 kickflip while california uber allies plays in the background * stay gnarly dude
shasta ,

Woogidie woogidie woogidie

AngryCommieKender ,

Saw a video of Tony Hawk the other day. He is 52 and probably just did his last 720° turn.

slacktoid ,
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The Birdman is gonna 900 over all our graves.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Like, you know, whatever.

slacktoid ,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

psshhhaa

Blackmist ,

What’s that! I can’t hear you through these thick brick walls I own and have paid for!

slacktoid ,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar
  • has a recording of it playing thru a boom box while standing outside on your porch * does this help old man? i think its time for hearing aids
Blackmist ,

** Turns on mosquito alarm I’ve got too much tinnitus to hear **

banneryear1868 ,

I own my own home

Selloutt lol

Blackmist ,

So much better than renting. It’s imba.

I realised the other day I hadn’t heard that word in years, so I’m bringing it back.

banneryear1868 ,

You basically have to buy if you can afford it, only thing worse than paying a mortgage is paying someone else’s. I’m closing in on my mortgage in my 30s which I never expected. Going to a trade college allowed me to save down payment and never be jobless, and buying a shitty townhome during the crash in what became a highly desirable area, allowed me to move to a huge country property before the market caught up here. Odd but very fortunate set of circumstances.

Trae ,

No one says Imba anymore grandpa.

The cool kids say OP now.

Blackmist ,

That sounds well based, fam.

cazsiel ,

omg imba. Now that is a word that ages you very very well considering you’re gen x

Getallen ,

Old ass

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m a gen-Xer who is still renting but I was never able to do a capitalism, and would be kept awake at night by all the atrocities I’d have to commit to do one.

Blackmist ,

Judging by the state of my town, I think the secret ingredient is living in a shithole.

braxy29 ,

i’m with you. late x’er here. my boomer parents’ promises never panned out, my retirement plan is work until i die or check out early if i can’t manage it.

getting lumped in with boomers when i have been served the same shit as the younger generations gets old, but the minds of people who never didn’t have internet is still a bit of a mystery to me.

funny how appropriate the x nomer and all it implies about our generation turned out to be.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Millennial or w.e, I think Gen X is pretty alright. They got shit served to them like all do now. We just need to happiness be

BigNote ,

Same. I don’t even know why people shit on us. We’ve never really been in power, probably never will be --Obama is the closest thing we’ll ever have to an Xer president and even then he’s technically a boomer-- it’s just a fact that in comparison to the boomers and millennials, demographically we’ve never mattered.

Our little window for demographic leadership, based on our coming into the age in which we’d ostensibly be capable of governance, was stomped on by the boomer gerontocracy and the rage of the far more numerous millennials.

The upshot is that us Xers never really had a real go at demographic power, and to the contrary, were left to pick up what scraps we could from the absolute mayhem that the boomers left us with.

deegeese , in I’ll fight anyone who shits on Gen Z

It’s OK, GenX is used to being forgotten or misunderstood.

Lots of Millenials can’t tell the difference from a Boomer.

ManosTheHandsOfFate ,
@ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world avatar

We don’t exist and I’m okay with that.

Kiosade ,

Idk, I would say the older half of Gen X could almost be described as “Boomer Lite”. They didnt quite have it AS nice, but still definitely way better than anyone born in the 80’s or later. Not to mention their Boomer-like attitude…

cantstopthesignal ,

Slightly less offensive boomers

seitanic ,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“Anybody older than me is a boomer.”

cantstopthesignal ,

I’d go with owns property and acts better than everyone who doesn’t

wombatula ,

You are mentally deranged if you think Gen X owns property, I know dozens of Millenials and Gen X both of which only a couple have property, and all of them inherited it from boomers recently.

The Boomers closed the door behind them, Gen X is just the first in line to maybe get some leftovers when they die.

Honytawk ,

More like anyone with a selfish mentality, that thinks everyone just has it as easy as them and those that don’t reach the same status are doing it wrong.

seitanic ,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Not to mention their Boomer-like attitude…

How, exactly?

db2 ,
Duranie ,

As an older Gen-Xer, who had married another older Xer far too young (because we were brought up that all we needed to do was get a job and life would be awesome) I can agree that some in my age range are definitely watered down boomers. Which is also a fair part of the reason why he’s my ex husband now.

As the mother of 3 Gen Z sons, I couldn’t be more proud of the amazing men they’re becoming, and couldn’t be more disgusted about the conditions that some of my generation and those before me have created for them.

TheGiantKorean , in Survival at stake
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR

The_Worst ,

Yeah, that’s it! You show that turd who’s boss.

markstos ,

Vegans. Plants = Fiber.

Animal products have no fiber.

Neato ,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Some people are blessed with normal bowel movements with average amounts of fiber. We participate in a CSA so have dozens of pounds of veggies every week. Every meal is veggie heavy. My body doesn't care, it's a lazy ass.

markstos ,

The average American gets only about half the recommended amount of fiber.

GreatGrapeApe ,

Animal products can have fiber if it is either forcemeat like chicken and apple sausages but on its own only plant foods have dietary fiber

squiblet , (edited )
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

(since nobody seems to know, this is a scene from the Prisoner, which is what "who does #2 work for" is a reference to)

Seventhlevin ,

I AM NOT A NUMBER. I AM A FREE MAN!

thekerker ,
@thekerker@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure this is a reference to Austin Powers, where he’s giving the Irish hitman a swirly in a casino bathroom and yelling “WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR” while a gambler played by Tom Arnold in the next stall is trying to encourage him on.

Aesculapius ,
@Aesculapius@kbin.social avatar

You are correct. But what Austin Powers was referencing was this scene from The Prisoner. Top notch 60's TV!

ChillCapybara ,

The mvp is in the comments of the comments

Aesculapius ,
@Aesculapius@kbin.social avatar

Deep cut! I first heard of and saw that show in college. It's great!

Destraight ,

It wasn’t a show, it was a movie.

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

I think they're referring to the Prisoner, not Austin Powers.

foo ,

That’s not my bag, baby

thekerker ,
@thekerker@lemmy.world avatar

That’s right, show that turd who’s boss!

jaackf , in Why must we be done this way?

The amount of times I told my students they can use their phone for certain exercises, then 90% of them just went on Tiktok or played Clash Of Clans, is why is started not allowing phones.

I get that to the 10% it was super helpful but it’s just easier to not allow everyone.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Well, at least you gave them a chance. Thank you.

jaackf ,

I’m all for giving them a chance to prove they’re able to be responsible. Especially the kids that always try hard and deserve to be trusted.

I found that a lot of kids struggled to accept any consequences of their actions, though taking their phones off them for playing games was pretty clear to them.

Swallowtail ,

It would be funny if people were forced to do something akin to mandatory military service but for working at a school as a paraprofessional or other aide for a little while. I feel like most people really have no idea how much teachers have to juggle and deal with on a daily basis. Come see how my kids behave when left to their own devices and then judge me.

jaackf ,

For sure! A lot of parents don’t really understand the amount of stuff teachers have to go through either, and we don’t get paid for the hundreds of hours we do outside of teaching hours.

It’s why I had to quit in the end. Felt like I couldn’t give it my all because I was mentally and physically exhausted.

JoeBigelow ,
@JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca avatar

Everyone should have to work a retail/customer service/care/teaching job, its eye opening the way people treat those they see as in their service.

trailing9 ,

Like flight mode there should be school mode where students can only use a provided wlan that comes with content filters.

jaackf ,

100%, if the schools were funded well enough, issuing school phones would be amazing!

School computers work well because they block most of the distractions but ofc students have 1001 distractions in their own!

Daefsdeda ,

Block cellular with thick walls, then only allow them through wifi. Things like youtube can only be acces with a cabled connection. Something like this seems like a good start.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Offline games entered the chat. ProtonVPN entered the chat (specifically Proton with their bypass methods). Tor entered the chat.

They don’t even need to know what VPN or Tor is, it’s just “Download this app to access internet, bro”.

Daefsdeda ,

If there was a sort of national system for it, maybe some kinks could be worked out. And if some people still succeed, sure let them have it.

Also, limiting it to offline only already makes a huge difference

Packopus , in Why must we be done this way?

It’s always rude to not listen. So phones should not be allowed during class.

However, It’s rude not to allow breaks, growth, emergencies, and the fact that they are in fact, kids. They should be allowed to socialize, enjoy youth, and understand hierarchy/respect. So to earn respect, you must respect first.

Let the kids have their phones/computers as that is the modern world we live in. They will have technology. Don’t discourage it just because some people learned “you won’t always have a calculator in your pocket”. Well, now you do, so rather than ban it, teach them to USE IT!!! Just… properly.

Adapt the teaching, not the class.

ZWho63 OP ,

I second this.

Mistic ,

I would still disagree about phone usage.

Even when in school, phone helped me quite a bit with education. Having a way to do a quick fact-check is invaluable.

Now as I’m finishing getting my degree such devices became an inseparable part of the process.

Yes, you may not always listen to what’s being said whilst using them, but lets be frank, you wouldn’t be listening to those parts either way.

School education in a lot of places is fundamentally flawed. It’s extremely difficult to learn when you’re expected to absorb information just by listening and writing.

I’d agree with OPs sentiment here, off-topic smartphone usage isn’t the cause for worse education, but instead is a result of poor engagement in the first place. Should people be more engaged in the topic then suddenly smartphones start being used as a studying tool and not for entertainment. There are many ways of achieving that, but that’s a whole different story.

ShranTheWaterPoloFan ,

I think the biggest issue isn’t letting kids use a tool, it’s getting kids to do the work.

I recently worked with a bunch of kids in college, all stem majors, who couldn’t Google effectively or do basic math in their heads. It’s not a matter of “don’t let them use a resource” it’s that many people won’t try.

Limiting technology isn’t cruelty, it’s vital for learning many skills. Number sense can’t be taught by a taking a picture and writing an answer.

nightdice ,

I agree whole-heartedly. As someone who needed to learn the hard way that knowing the shortcut doesn’t always help with the work, I’m very much in favor of teaching kids the proper way first.

Also, if kids need to be “fact-checking” their class, that’s indicative of a whole different issue.
Because I don’t think most kids have learnt even the smallest bit about proper research methodology to be able to fact-check things. If that little bit they know is enough to disprove something in class, that teacher needs a stern talking to about the bs they peddle.

Mistic ,

“fact-checking” was a bit of a crude way of putting it on my part. I’m not native, so there could’ve misused it.

(Went a bit overboard with a wall of text again, but of well)

Although it wasn’t without the fact-checking in it’s normal sense. Take “English as a foreign language”, for example. One teacher will say the word is pronounced one way, the other will say its different. Who’s right? Let’s check Cambridge dictionary. Although it isn’t always teacher’s fault as a professional. Sometimes you just forget things no matter how well you know them.

The other part that I may have failed to convey is looking information up, be it a math formulae, a word, some sort of rule, name or a date.

It’s way quicker than going through your books and is actually not a bad way to remember something. You either have a tab left off or you’re seeing it when using the search, which makes you remember that you did look that up a while back. It’s very minor, but because you’re still being reminded about it from time to time, the information sticks. Essentially you’re doing unintentional passive memorisation.

That’s why I think that maybe not in primary, but definetly in secondary and high school banning technology is not the way to go about it. If the student uses it for entertainment during class, they won’t suddenly start studying if you prohibit them from usining it. You’re essentially solving a non-issue, because the majority of students aren’t even using phones during classes (Well, maybe to cheat on tests, but that’s hurting the quality of assessment and not education itself).

Banning phones is easy, but it’s also the least impactful thing you could to to “improve” educational system. It would be of more sognificance you were to reduce classes to 8 pupils, lessen teacher’s paperwork, introduce new active teaching practices, reward students for persuing their endevours and so on. But that’s difficult, banning phones is easy and brings you more polical approval.

SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT ,

Are there schools that don’t teach calculator usage? Even 10-15 years ago German schools (at least in the states I looked at) had the option to teach math with either basic calculators, scientific calculators, or computer algebra systems in grades 9-13 (I think) with most schools picking scientific calculators even back then. I would expect that to have moved into earlier grades and more advanced devices nowadays.

drcobaltjedi ,

I meam, i remember even in 5th grade nearly 20 years ago them telling us “you wont always have a calculator in your pocket” and this was happening when vell phones were becoming mainstream enough that some of us did have flip phones

Jamie ,
@Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

I don’t carry a calculator in my pocket, just a device that has access to the sum of all human knowledge.

And a calculator.

Jamie , in Rewind time
@Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

I had a teacher in third grade send me to the vice principal’s office because my handwriting was, and is, terrible. His idea of dealing with a 9 year old whose handwriting is bad was apparently that if you scream at them hard enough, their good handwriting will just come out. They apparently decided to not inform my parents of this event, so they were quite surprised when I came home and started apologizing because I got in big trouble at school.

Well, my dad went up to the school and showed them he could scream, too. Sent the teacher to the staff room in tears, and the vice principal suddenly lost his volume when he’s faced up against a 6’2 farmer instead of a 9 year old. Neither of them tried anything like that again.

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