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sodalite , in Distros Used for Gaming on Linux, Evolution over Time - November 2023 Edition - Goodbye Manjaro!

minty fresh baby

nublug , in Distro suggestions, anyone?

endeavourOS kde is gorgeous and by far the most stable and ready-out-of-the-box arch version i’ve tried.

also the eos-packagelist --install [desktop environment] command lets you install the other endeavourOS themed DEs or WMs just like the distro installer does so you don’t have to reinstall or work on themes yourself if you want to change after install.

pipewire is also ready to go and i think it uses some kind of realtime thing, but i’m using the default kernel so i don’t know that it’s a low latency kernel level thing by default.

games have also been top notch for me, the only tweaking i’ve done is adding -vulkan launch options to steam games.

overall i highly recommend it. i’m using kde but tried cinnamon, i3, and sway (though community editions like sway are going unsupported soon) and they are all similarly well-themed.

uis OP , in Gamedev and linux
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Why post periodically disappear from active?

GustavoM , in Nvidia SUCKS!
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Reject AMD/NVidia

Embrace RISC-V.

(No, really. I’m unironically considering using an risc-v sbc as my next “main desktop pc” for the next few years, and relying (only) on cloud gaming for my dopamine needs.)

meiko60 ,
@meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

not everyone have stable Internet connection. Local game is the best

GustavoM ,
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…are you sure about that? 10 Gibps is about to be standardized all around the globe.

meiko60 ,
@meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Internet capability in first world countries and Third World countries are totally different. also, cloud gaming is definitely no go if you want to play on the plane (Steam Deck/Switch/ROG etc is the solution for this)

haui_lemmy ,

Hahahahaha! I live in germany and the best I can get is 250mbits for 75 € per month. We have no cable, no fiber, only dsl/copper lines.

What was that about first world countries?

angrymouse ,

OK this is new to me, do you live in the countryside? I live around Porto Alegre in Brazil and for 120 reais (9% of minimum wage and around 24 euros I have a 500mbps fiber connection. But it would be dramatically different between metropolitan areas and a small city

haui_lemmy ,

Nope. On the edge of a big city. A couple streets further they have fiber. Here, they dont. But congrats to you having a good connection. Mine is roughly 6% of minimum wage.

GustavoM ,
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Huh? Third world countries are 100% capable to deal with streaming servers with flawless performance – where are you getting those ideas from?

JPAKx4 ,

Also 10gibps doesn’t say anything about the latency, which is what makes me avoid cloud hardware steaming

GustavoM ,
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No, but we are talking about a STREAMING service. Which means, an ISP would have to be beyond terrible if it couldn’t provide decent streaming performance under an 10 Gibps connection. Which thankfully, is not the case even for Africans, Nigarians or any other “sub third-world country.”

angrymouse ,

What? No, games arent just “streaming”, the time between you seeing stuff and and the server processing your inputs reacting to this new state of the game should be short, you can easily do this with a 500mbps connection with low latency but will not work with a 10gbps with 200 ping.

JPAKx4 ,

Additionally, if you have a spotty 10gbs connection, you’ll still have a bad experience. The maximum capabilities of something doesn’t define how it can be used in the real world. I’m not denying some people can use it just fine, but it’s not mainstream for a reason.

onlinepersona ,

Cries in German

BURN ,

Since when?

Most places in the US still can’t get 1G, let alone 10. 1st world countries aren’t even close to that target, let alone a developing nation.

If you’re thinking about starlink, it’s going to be terrible for gaming and introduces a ton of latency.

visor841 ,

AMD/Nivdia GPUs will still run with RISC-V. RISC-V is a CPU architecture, not GPU.

ProtonBadger ,

Even Nvidia have embraced RISC-V, the general purpose controller embedded on their GPU's is RISC-V.

stagen , in Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average
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Right then.

But is it easy to use?

Probably not.

ReverseModule OP ,
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You mean Linux? It’s 10 times easier and better than Windows lol.

Commiunism ,

As someone who’s been using Linux for 3 years, the amount of bullshit I have to go through to make some of the games/modding tools work properly or having to look up launch commands for almost every game so it runs well enough definitely makes gaming harder compared to Windows “works out of the box” experience.

Linux desktop too isn’t that much better than Windows except in privacy and security. In terms of ease of use, it’s sometimes on-par with Windows but seeing how you need to troubleshoot stuff when setting up and potentially at update time, it’s insane to call Linux 10 times easier.

ReverseModule OP ,
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I just launch the games personally.

ADHDefy , (edited )
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I find day-to-day desktop use easier with a better workflow in Linux, personally, but yeah, while there are plenty of games that run without any tweaking, there are some that will take extra time and effort to get running. Windows is def easier for gaming, especially if you're not familiar with Linux. There is a learning curve, for sure.

mercury ,

Maybe for someone who knows how to use Linux, but you have to remember not everyone knows what you do. Relevant xkcd

ReverseModule OP ,
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I literally installed the system and Steam and ran the games. Linux is easier than you think with an AMD GPU. AMD Drivers are not even needed.

mercury ,

I don’t have an AMD GPU, and can’t really afford to buy one right now. Most people have Nvidia cards, according to the steam hardware survey.

Frenky_Fisher , in Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average

Is BattleEye supported on linux? Id like to switch but remember people saying support for BE is not that great, and im mostly arma and dayz player…

Baleine ,
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Check your game on protondb.com to see if it runs well on linux

vreraan ,

the ones I’ve tried yes, it depends on the developers, for example Fortnite is not supported on Linux because they deliberately made it incompatible.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Doesn’t Fortnite use EAC instead?

mercury ,

It uses both, and switches between the two

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I can find only mentions of EAC.

vreraan ,

Also apex legends and Rust use it, EAC it’s not the reason.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

P1: “They are using malware anti-cheat that does not support Linux”

P2: “No, they choose to not support Linux”

Me: “Aren’t they use anti-cheat that do support Linux?”

P2: “It’s not the reason”

quentangle ,

areweanticheatyet.com

DayZ and ARMA 3 both work. ARMA 2 does not though.

ReverseModule OP ,
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uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Should be arewemalwaredyet

bilb ,
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I don’t think it can be considered malware unless its doing something malicious that you don’t expect. I don’t want or need it on my system, but people who want to play these multiplayer games have a valid use-case and can make that decision themselves.

Of course, you may have just intended to snarky and I’m just being tedious.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

It is literal rootkit, what do you mean nt a malware?

but people who want to play these multiplayer games have a valid use-case and can make that decision themselves.

They can’t in most of cases. For them it’s either installing or not playing.

iopq , in The Ongoing Work For Native Wine Wayland Support

This would be great, because currently wine is broken in Wayland for me (Nvidia use here)

ADHDefy ,
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Hell, Wayland itself is broken for me on Nvidia. lol

iopq ,

It works great, except when it’s slow or shows random horizontal lines inside full screen apps

ADHDefy , (edited )
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Huh, maybe I should give it another try then. A couple of months ago, I was getting nasty graphical glitches pretty frequently under Wayland. I've heard the upcoming 545 driver fixes a bunch of Wayland compatibility stuff, too, so maybe it's time to try it again.

iopq ,

it was literally perfect on AMD with no hassle, I just installed OBS and recorded the screen

trying to replicate the ease of use on Nvidia is a huge project, I’d have to either mess with OBS on X11 or wait until a new driver fixes my graphical glitches

olafurp , in For all the doubters that Linux gaming is smoother and faster.

Welp, I don’t even have a GPU lol.

theshatterstone54 , in For all the doubters that Linux gaming is smoother and faster.

I do all my gaming on Linux EXCEPT there is this one niche game that, at a certain point, needs so much repetitive grinding for resources that pretty much everyone uses macros for it. Guess what? I have gotten to that point, and unfortunately, the only macro that’s efficient enough (because it uses AutoHotKey for detecting elements in a window) is Windows only, because AutoHotKey is Windows only. And no, it cannot be rewritten in AutoKey, it cannot be rewritten in Python (it probably can, but the project is so massive that it would be a near-impossible task, and there is neither enough supply of people willing to do it, nor enough demand from users), it cannot run under AutoHotKey in the same WINE prefix OR in a different WINE prefix as the game (I tried both, Window detection doesn’t work), I have tried everything and nothing seems to work. In terms of less efficient macros, there are 3 projects listed on the official “[Insert game here] Macro Community” Discord server under the Python-macros channel: 1 of them is supposed to be a macro working for both Windows and Linux, but it has been abandoned (I even contacted the developer), the 2nd one is MacOS only, with the Dev stating “retina display” as the reason behind it. Still , I tried it and couldn’t get it to work. The third one was a project that started some time ago, but then there is now a message by the dev stating “I’m now pausing the development of this macro” so I contacted them a few weeks ago to see if I can get their incomplete source code to use as inspiration when writing my own macro, no response. And yes, I tried writing my own macro, and failed miserably. It is far more difficult than I thought.

So yeah. I’m dualbooting a debloated Windows 10 (thank you CTT and winutil) alongside Linux. And Windows is, in fact, the secondary OS i.e I installed Windows after Linux.

lyam23 ,

What game?

theshatterstone54 ,

It’s not about the game, so much as it is about AutoHotKey and macros. I tried writing my own Python macros but I gave up.

TheOSINTguy ,

You didn’t even answer their question.

governorkeagan , in For all the doubters that Linux gaming is smoother and faster.

Haven’t watched the video yet but I’d like to add from my very limited experience. I recently switched to Kubuntu (still have my windows boot) and the one game I play (Red Dead Redemption 2) seems to be running worse. I haven’t done much testing at all so it could be something I can adjust and get running better.

Having said that, general day-to-day performance is miles ahead of my Windows install.

If I could get RDR2 to run better on Linux and DaVinci Resolve to run I’d have no need to keep my Windows install.

ReverseModule OP ,
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Have you tried something like Nobara? I’m pretty sure DaVinci Resolve works on Fedora (which Nobara is based on) and you will get the latest optimizations as well. I am on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed just cause best performance on my system.

DrRatso ,

Nobara comes with DaVinci Resolve out of the box (or in the post install configuration screen at least).

That said I saw problems on Nobara I don’t have in arch that made me almost switch back to windows.

Decided to try arch before I switch back to windows, long story short have been on linux for two months without any plans of going back, the idea of windows now makes me wince.

governorkeagan ,

I might try running arch as well. I’ll test it out before I move to a bare metal install.

DrRatso ,

Archinstall is perfectly fine, or EndeavourOS, they will make installing easy, i only use pacman and AUR for packages, anything not there Ive managed to build myself. This is the main reason I love arch, pacman + AUR are amazing.

You will probably want an AUR helper like yay or paru (doesn’t really matter which one for you, i prefer yay for sounding fun).

And of course RTFM - archwiki is amazing.

governorkeagan ,

I haven’t tried that yet. I tried running it as a container via distrobox.

guide I followed

Ihnivid ,

Huh, doesn’t DaVinci have a native Linux port? Is it that bad?

governorkeagan ,

Technically they do but it isn’t supported on all distros. They officially support centOS 8, RHEL and one other that I’m forgetting.

fossisfun , in What's the best rolling release Distributions that doesn't crash too much
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Have you considered a fixed release in combination with rolling applications (i. e. Flatpak, Snap)?

If you choose Fedora (preferably one of the atomic variants, like Silverblue), you would also get a rolling kernel and rolling KDE Plasma desktop, so overall the experience can be quite close to a rolling release distribution if you install the desktop applications via Flatpak.

Ubuntu “interim” (non-LTS) releases are usually also fairly current and could be a good choice if you don’t mind Snap. There’s also the option of following the Ubuntu “devel” branch, which always refers to the current pre-release version of Ubuntu (e. g. 24.04 at the moment) and is rolling.

Just wanted to give you a different direction to think about. ;)

Mohamad20ZX OP ,

thanks I haven’t known about it but I have Opensuse Tumbleweed for gaming use and endeavour os for the aur

null ,

Just FYI, if you like EndeavourOS, you should know that it’s essentially an installer for Vanilla Arch (unlike Majaro which is Arch-based).

So you may have just had bad luck when you tried Vanilla Arch that you didn’t have with EndeavourOS – but there’s no real difference between the 2 besides manual vs GUI installer.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Depending on what you want, OpenSUSE’s OBS is a great alternative to the AUR. It works by building software given a script, so you still just download binary packages, unlike the AUR where you download build scripts.

I honestly haven’t needed much since switching from Arch to openSUSE, though I’ve played with some OBS packages here and there. I used to maintain some AUR packages, and I haven’t needed to on Tumbleweed.

Give it a shot, you probably don’t need both. I prefer Tumbleweed these days, but I’ve used Tumbleweed and Arch both for about the same amount of time (5-ish years) and can recommend both.

zaphod , in What's the best rolling release Distributions that doesn't crash too much
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Debian testing or unstable.

Mohamad20ZX OP ,

Ok do you know sparkly Linux is great rolling distribution in addition to pclinux os

Oha , in gpu performance test
darkeox ,

For relative comparison sure but isn't it starting to become irrelevant these days? No Vulkan nor Raytracing nor Compute.

bgtlover ,

@darkeox @NZV65572 @Oha what is, nvidia or amd? amd does have raytracing, and nvidia has vulkan with proprietary drivers as far as I know, but maybe I'm missing context because my server didn't load all the thread

darkeox ,

My bad. I think I confused this with the previous popular Unigine benchmarks.

zyberteq , in (MicroOS) Starfield 1440p Ultra - 7900X 7900XTX

People are saying this? Well I’m running it on Pop!_OS 3440x1440 with a Ryzen 5600 and 6900XT at at least 60fps. Unsure at the FSR or scaling level though, but it’s not bothering me. And my perception of performance and quality is what actually matters.

zyberteq , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

I went full Linux this spring. Got fed up with Windows 11 and had a great experience with my Steamdeck, so I installed Pop!_OS and have been a happy gamer ever since.

Just need to reinstall everything probably, because I have a few very weird bugs. I got workarounds, but they’re temporary and annoying.

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