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ubermeisters , (edited )
@ubermeisters@lemmy.world avatar

Be happy you(we) can pump your own fuel. Some states don’t allow that and as such the fuel costs are higher, and tipping the attendant is customary.

Edit: looks like NJ assholes took advantage of me being a NYer and requested tips lol, idk.

KoalaUnknown ,

He isn’t complaining about having to pump his own gas. He is complaining about the gas station’s audacity to ask for a tip.

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

When the robots gain sentience y’all are gonna regret not tipping your gas pumps.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

greenteadrinker ,

Soon enough we’ll see robots argue against each other about tipping culture

nyctre ,

Using “forced” outside of kink situations has a negative connotation. When you say “I was forced to …”, most people would take that as a complaint. Maybe that’s not the intention of the meme but still, that’s what it says shrug

ubermeisters ,
@ubermeisters@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks… captain obvious? I was mentioning a related thing, not desperately trying to inject something random and unrelated, outside the scope of the original comment.

ares35 ,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

my mom and gramma never pumped their own gas. grampa would never allow it (he had previously owned a gas station back when they were all full service 'service stations'). i've never heard of tipping at a gas station. granted, this was well before the tipping-everywhere bullshit we have now.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Tipping is not customary in those states. Source: I live in one, and grew up by the border with the other.
Bonus fact, we can now pump our own gas in oregon… though they still have to have some pumps where you can’t. I don’t want to call those full service cause they aren’t, they call them mini service. Full service cleans your windows and such as well apparently.

RebekahWSD ,
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve lived in NJ my entire life and have never ever tipped for gas. Ever. It’s absolutely not customary here at all, and it’s the only state left where you can’t pump your own gas.

JimmyBigSausage ,

This is too good.

YoBuckStopsHere ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

This is tipping culture out of control.

soloner ,

I think it’s shopped

YoBuckStopsHere ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

I could see them doing this

intensely_human ,

shopping culture is out of control here

Empricorn ,

These screens aren’t usually touch-sensitive, no? I don’t usually fill up at Valero’s, but those buttons on the side are often used because the screens aren’t designed for touch. I’m in a cold climate though, so maybe they just don’t use them here…

obinice ,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

Tipping culture is tipping culture out of control.

You should see the insane way it’s worshipped in the USA, all as an obviously thin front to avoid paying wages and giving workers rights. It’s wild.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Worshiped? What country do you live in? The biggest argument I see for it is ‘its absolutely bullshit but some jobs that’s almost all they make’

I don’t think I’ve ever, in my 41 years here, seen a single human being say it’s an amazing system.

bl4ckblooc ,

You obviously haven’t been talking to servers that make $200 a night in cash tips they don’t pay taxes on. My fiancé works in marketing for a large winery, and some of the kids they would bring in to work the restaurant would be making tons of money from it. Those are the people who love it

Blaster_M ,

They’re supposed to pay federal income tax on their tips in the USA. However, it being cash, most people take it as “under the table” wages.

bl4ckblooc ,

I know they are supposed to, but most servers don’t. Some business will even give out your debit/credit tips in cash so you don’t have to claim them.

dangblingus ,

You don’t talk to enough servers that aren’t 20 year old blonde chicks. And even then, there are slow nights where they bring home $50 in tips. It’s a predatory system for all involved except the owner class.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Or the people in the back of the house that bust their ass, are sometimes highly trained, and take home less than the person carrying food back and forth.

bl4ckblooc ,

That’s not the discussion going on? We are talking about who the people are that champion for tipping.

bl4ckblooc ,

Okay? The point is that there are people who like the system, and those are the people I outlined. That’s the point of my comment as a reply to the comment above. No one here has said it’s not predatory.

danielton ,

You’ve never gotten into an argument with someone who says they tip their mechanic and doctor and thinks everybody should do the same?

There absolutely are people in the US who believe that everybody you interact with as a customer should be tipped because they believe all the propaganda from the likes of Readers Digest and Wall Street Journal. They believe everybody must be tipped because covid and “How are those jobs any different from being a server? It’s a SERVICE!” It’s beyond ridiculous. I worked in retail and food service (not tipped) for a long time and would have been embarrassed to have to resort to begging for tips.

Tip culture worship is real. I’ve run into plenty of people online and offline who think that tips should be mandatory everywhere, of all walks of life.

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

People tipping their doctor? I don’t even pay my doctor, my insurance does that.

danielton ,

Yup, I’ve seriously gotten into arguments with people who insist on tipping the doctor.

_number8_ ,

there’s a great citations needed episode on the shitty origins of it and the shitty circumstances it creates: soundcloud.com/…/ep-118-the-snitch-economy-how-ti…

Waiting tables. Bartending. Hospitality, food delivery, beauty salons, rideshare driving. The service industry, as anyone who has worked in it knows all too well, is notorious for relying on tipping to undercut employee wages and deputize individual customers to determine how much money a worker should be able to take home. Amid increasing recognition of these injustices, a number of campaigns and new laws surfaced, pre-pandemic, to abolish or meaningfully reduce the practice of tipping.

But despite the best efforts of these campaigns, tipping remains the industry - and American society - standard. Indeed, the perverse logic of tipping has broadened into an ever-present ‘snitch economy’ - an ecosystem of tactics like mystery shoppers and Uber and Yelp rating systems designed to police the behavior of workers while outsourcing the costs of said supervision to customers and other workers.

In the process, our snitch economy pits those being surveilled against those doing the watching, and the judging. Through a ubiquitous public-facing network of rating and reviewing other people’s labor - and often the behavioral disposition they exhibit while working - people with otherwise very little power are elevated to temporary positions of authority over others, fostering a culture of surveillance rather than one of solidarity. The snitch economy serves the dual purpose of not only giving working people a false sense of power when they’re the ones being served, but also reducing millions of human interactions to opportunities for not only snap judgments, but subjective rewards and retribution.

iheartneopets ,

Tf are you on about? Idk where you’re getting your impressions from but it is absolutely not ‘worshipped’ in the US.

No_Eponym ,
@No_Eponym@lemmy.ca avatar

Corpos with their first already up your ass, now asking for more: “Come on, just the a tip?”

gerryflap ,
@gerryflap@feddit.nl avatar

Hopefully it’s close to a tipping point

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Where I live we had one gas station with full service when I was a kid, and it cost like a third more than any other gas station in the area so almost no one went there and it eventually went to self serve pumps like every other station. Aside from the one time I went there I have always pumped my own gas, and I’d feel weird if someone else did it for me lol

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

The cheapest gas station around me is the only full service one around. I hate it. I'll pay extra to not have to deal with the forced interaction. Tipping cancels out the discount anyways.

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

A state near mine that I visit occasionally has laws in place that prohibit pumping your own gas. I always forget this and get out of the car, which leads to a very awkward confrontation with the attendant. It definitely feels weird.

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

You must be near New Jersey lol I think that’s the only state left that has that law

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Nailed it. ;)

chepox ,

I have never pumped my own fuel on my car except when I visit the US. I feel like a 7 year old handling that pump thing. Happy I don’t have to do that where I live.

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

My parents started asking me to pump the gas for them since I was like 10, so I’m pretty used to it now lol

ghostdoggtv ,

Actually, I’m gonna need a refund

PunnyName ,

Let’s move away from a car-centric society, please.

someguy3 ,

I want to ask if this is real. It looks real.

SpaceNoodle ,

This is clearly fake. Tip screens all now start at 20 or 25% .

Maeve ,

Is this real?! 🤯

JJROKCZ ,

Please tell me this is photoshopped and these fuckers aren’t seriously asking for tips at self service stations…

atocci ,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

Yeah haha definitely fake, these pumps don't have touch screens so this interface wouldn't work on them. Choices have to be aligned with the 4 buttons on the left and right. Second one from the top on the right side will mute the ads also.

Rolando ,

Second one from the top on the right side will mute the ads also.

Not always.

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, very angrily discovered this the other day while filling up my bike. Ear plugs go right back in, in spite of needing the break.

WarmSoda ,

Yeah I’ve never gotten any of the buttons to do it.
Internet wives tale.

Kuro ,

Strange, it’s worked at every pump I’ve tried

atocci ,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

Yeah same with me. Circle K is the only place around here whose pumps play ads though, so maybe it's just their machines it works on. Someone even scrawled "<- mute" in permanent marker next to the button on all their pumps.

atocci ,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

It for sure works at every Circle K I've been to, at least.

harrim4n ,

I’m sorry, did you just say “mute the ads”? Damn, america really is in the terminal stages of late stage capitalism

Frozengyro ,

Yes they are loud and obnoxious to get attention too.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Hey, don’t be so cruel. These machines are paid below minimum wage, and if you don’t tip, they won’t be able to pay their rent and student loans.

Rolando ,

they won’t be able to pay their rent and student loans.

You mean their software subscriptions and cloud storage fees.

moistclump ,

Yeh. Rent and student loans.

dangblingus ,

Do real servers not deserve to pay their rent/student loans?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

No

Starve

postmateDumbass ,

Those night classes to move up from soda dispenser to gas pump will pay off eventually.

krakenx ,

That touchscreen plays ads loudly as well.

anhkagi ,
@anhkagi@jlai.lu avatar

Or they just display you loud ads, same intentions.

I_Am_Jacks_____ ,

If you hold down the second button down on the right side for a second or two, it mutes the ads.

intensely_human ,

It used to

I_Am_Jacks_____ ,

It worked when I did it yesterday

GrammatonCleric ,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Goddamn 2023. The tip screen embarrasses me at work, where I make a normal hourly wage.

“Just hit the skip button bro”

intensely_human ,

I find myself apologizing for my company’s systems all the time.

Our POS doesn’t display the amount you’re about to pay. I read it to you, but it doesn’t display. It’s disrespectful to the customer IMO.

JTC5 ,

Don’t give them anymore ideas. Mine is already already playing non stop 60 decibel ads

Spaghetti_Hitchens ,

60 decibels would be an improvement at the corner station for me.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
@AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social avatar

Second button from the top on the right is mute on most of them.

Honytawk ,

Drilling a hole mutes it for all time!

TonyTonyChopper ,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

I love when they boost the volume so much it’s clipped to the point I can’t understand it :)

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

I’m surprised people haven’t poked the speakers out yet

DeadNinja ,
@DeadNinja@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to New Jersey /s

henfredemars ,

This is a tip for me being such a good customer, right?

Can I start asking businesses for tips? Like for not committing crimes, and paying for my goods and services as agreed upon, you’re going to have to subscribe to the premium customer program.

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