When those same former voters watch Israel murder every Palestinian while Trump actively cheers them on and rounds up all Palestinian Americans to deport them for further ethnic cleansing.
I mean, it’s pretty hard to make an argument that Trump would be materially worse for Palestinians than Biden if both are going to defund UNRWA and give Israel military aid. What Biden is doing now is definitely a step in the right direction; I hope he keeps this up, even when the Republicans inevitably say he’s being, “soft on terrorism,” (or whatever the talking point becomes).
It isn’t the dnc’s fault a third of the country is apparently fascist these days. Nothing moves left until the ultra right is thoroughly defeated and sent back to the shadows.
Yes it is. The Democrats have had plenty of opportunities to step away from their pro-corporate stance and start doing things to help people. Every single time they cave to Republican pressure in the name of “bipartisanship”. Look at the border policy they just proposed that was everything that Republicans wanted. Democrats will give the whole game away just to keep that sweet sweet donor money coming in.
“Republicans are worse” is a shitty argument when Democrats already give them everything they want.
In fact the Democrats LOVE the far right because they can just point to them and go “well you don’t want THOSE guys in charge do you?”, while doing absolutely nothing to help the populace who are suffering under greedflation.
So we have to keep moving right to marginalize the right? We keep running party propaganda further to the right, and expect that makes less people vote to the right?
Right and at this rate the Democrat will be doing that in 2028 while telling us it’s okay, we can still vote and the other guy is worse!
Harm reduction only works so long as there is remediation between elections. Just ratcheting shit further to the right and telling everyone they have to vote for you because you’re still not as far right as the other guy isn’t a scenario I want to participate in. If they want my vote the least they can do is not be worse than GW Bush.
Sucks because Trump is going to stay behind Isreal too. The people that refuse to vote for Biden because of this likely just won’t vote. Which = Trump.
Looks like the stroke was a complication from a systemic MRSA infection, which would not be my assassination agent of choice if I was trying to kill somebody on purpose, even if I did want it to look like an accident. MRSA only kills about 1 in 4 people infected with it, and many of those are people who are already hospitalized for some other serious illness. It strikes me as a rather low-probability way to kill a healthy adult.
I really hate it when this sort of thing happens. If you read into this particular death, it looks like a tragic series of unfortunate events and not anything nefarious. The earlier whistleblower death looked truly suspicious and I don’t fault people for that one, but this one just isn’t. Now this family is going to be dealing with a conspiracy and hounded by insane people while trying to grieve their loved one. I wish people could really look into these things instead of just reacting because Boeing has been sketchy lately.
The root of the problem is that the general lawlessness and the actual proven conspiracies make everyone rightly paranoid. If the govt didn’t cause the crack epidemic, or didn’t actually try brain control experiments on their own citizens, or didn’t surveil literally everyone, this wouldn’t happen.
Sure, I’m not assigning any blame in my original comment. I agree with your comment, but I also still think we have a personal responsibility to look into these things and be critical. Conspiracy theories can be a failure of the state and of the individuals.
The thing with assigning responsibility is that it does not ever solve anything.
Assigning it to individuals actually does prevent solving issues, since if you assign individual responsibility to a systemic problem, you get to - instead of looking for a root cause - say “people should just be better”. By attributing it to some individual moral quality, you get to avoid the hard questions - like “why is everyone stupid?” or “why is everyone immoral?”, and not realize the environment in which these people live foster the stupidity or immorality, and the only way to solve it would be education or higher standards for leaders.
I agree with everything you said, genuinely. Ignoring societal factors would be foolish and expecting personal responsibility to be the deciding factor is naive. All that said, to ignore it entirely leaves you with an incomplete view as well. People have the potential to be more than our nature and circumstances dictate us to be.
To address your point directly, I don’t expect anyone to do anything. I do though believe that personal responsibility is a core element of any non-autocratic political system. I will ask for it, because my fellow citizens belong to the same government I do and I have a vested interest in it working. I’ll also be doing what I can to improve those contextual circumstances we mentioned earlier. Expect, though? No, I really don’t.
I understand your point, but “a culture of personal responsibility” will still be a societal thing. On a moral level, you can of course assign blame to individual people, but that will not solve the problem, and my point is that a lot of people use personal responsibility to distance themselves from a problem and justify why they aren’t solving it.
What I mean is that it is beneficial to think of personal responsibility when you think of your personal responsibility. You see somebody stealing public funds? You go and be the whistleblower because you are responsible for making society a better, fairer place.
The problem is when people go and see a problem as someone else’s personal responsibility. Simple example, you see a guy throw away some trash on the sidewalk. If you think it’s their personal responsibility to keep our streets clean, and you justify not picking it up after them, the trash will still be there, as long as someone doesn’t pick it up.
The point is, it’s fine to think whatever, but thoughts in themselves won’t solve problems. Thoughts are secondary to actions, and whatever thoughts you have that motivate you making the world better are good, and whatever thoughts push you into apathy, or even stir you to actively make the world worse, are bad. The notion of personal responsibility can be both.
It’s gotta be the same trolls that visit every Boeing thread claiming accidents are the fault of the airport not the manufacturer. They are fucking relentless.
I actually did reread them, and I don’t believe I’m trolling. I am genuinely curious if you believe a comment here did as you claimed and if so which one? Please be specific.
But you spoke as if its already happening. in fact your post reads as if you are replying to someone? Honestly if anyone is coming off as a bot its you dude. I, of course, don’t think you are but…your post makes absolutely no sense in the current context.
Those people are just clarifying headlines that give no idea how long the plane was in service. If they’ve been in service for over a decade it stands to reason that the maintenance on the plane might have been faulty. OFC Boeing should be investigated due to the door plug blow-out, and have previously demonstrated their willingness to cut corners with the Max debacle. That doesn’t mean every incident is their direct fault, and Airbus can suffer similar incidents but not be reported on.
Er, no - because the crashes weren’t the topic. It was just very sudden-left-turn which felt bot-like. Agreed about the Boeing crashes, they’re just different from the deaths of the Boeing whistleblowers.
I was responding to someone who specifically brought up the crashes…
It’s gotta be the same trolls that visit every Boeing thread claiming accidents are the fault of the airport not the manufacturer. They are fucking relentless.
First off fuck Boeing. Second off. When a part falls off of a 30 year old plane it’s typically because the airline that owns it fucked up in the maintenance of the plane, sometimes it’s the manufacturer not stating a correct procedure, or having the stated intervals too long, but just as many aviation accidents have been caused by fuckups during maintenance.
Or sometimes manufacturers simply send a wrong manual which doesn’t apply to your aircraft at all. And it turns out you have to order one from across the ocean because the whole continent got the wrong manuals. Don’t ask how I know.
There’s a time and place to be critical of dumbass politicians taking half-measures on important issues, but doing it now is potentially undermining the election in favor of fascist criminals.
I’m not happy about it, but it’s the reality of the situation. We’re sliding towards fascism as our rights are being eroded away. The government ignores our protests and no one will take up arms against the ruling class. This is how it is.
honestly doesn’t it seem like this change of direction is him listening? Even weeks ago I would have never thought I would have heard the words ceasefire out of his mouth.
to me this seems like a direct response of the message people sent to him with the Michigan primary and I am happy to see it.
doesn’t mean I’m happy with what he’s done so far or even that he has not immediately taken direct action but this is a pivot and failing to acknowledge it weakens protest actions like this in the future.
maybe I am missing something that I don’t see why that is an objectionable position? like obviously the ceasefire needs to happen immediately but what is wrong with hostage release as part of it?
not that long ago politicians were doing anything they could to avoid the word ceasefire and now they’re actively calling for it I’m really not thinking that this is an unchanged position but I am willing to listen if I have some drastic misunderstanding.
Because the hostages aren’t why we need the ceasefire. We need it to deliver aid. Also it’s an Israeli pre-condition. So what the white house is doing is putting the one big thing Israel wants and telling Hamas they’ll get a temporary peace out of it. Hamas has no reason to take that deal. Israel would similarly tell the white house to pound sand if they showed up in Tel Aviv to say Hamas has a deal that just requires the removal of all IDF troops from Palestinian territory.
I mean, wouldn’t it be a good thing if hostages were released? Also, surely getting a ceasefire like this is one of the reasons Hamas took hostages, right?
In a vacuum, yes. But we aren’t in a vacuum and Hamas needs something more than a shaky ceasefire to release all of the hostages. Israel isn’t agreeing to a ceasefire unless every hostage is released. At that point Hamas loses all leverage.
It’s also an incredibly partisan move by a mediator who says their main concern is getting aid into the area. You need cooperation for that and you don’t get cooperation by backing the demands of just one side.
We’re not. We’re blaming them for being fucking idiots who will vote in a literal dictator because they’re mad at Biden. Someone who will do far more damage to and destroy hundreds of millions of lives in the US and the rest of the world.
30,000 deaths in another country is nothing compared to US deaths little orange is responsible for when you only consider his one choice to fuck over pandemic response at the beginning of the pandemic. Dude has the deaths of millions on his hands already.
Anyone, any human being alive, that would vote for him is a fucking idiot that needs to give their head a bashing
I love that you used the phrase democratic choice to describe it too. A+
America’s path to fascism doesn’t begin and end with Trump. Forcing people to vote for someone they do not morally support is fascist. The last time he was president the world didn’t end. Millions of peoples lives in the United States are already horrible and the US regardless of who is president , democrat or republican, murder people all over the world. This narrow minded take of how the world works is part of the problem not the people abstaining from voting for Biden.
And children without a lot of life experiences to understand. Imagine coming of age in the last decade. This is their “normal”. Its awful and terrifying… exactly what all the people working to divide and and destroy democracy around the world have been working for.
As much as I’m angry at their ignorance, it’s also really fucking sad.
No. It is not, this is a scary and extremist perspective and I’m sorry you feel like that. The media in America and the propagandist dismantling democracy have done so much damage.
So many bots, so many promoters of disjunction. It’s overwhelming.
You’re being asked to make a choice between eating a gross vegetable and a the barrel of a shotgun and you’re arguing for the shotgun.
It’s the unalienable right of every US citizen to say whatever dumbass shit they want. I’m still gonna call them a dumbass for saying dumbass shit though.
People who are able to vote and specifically choose not to should absolutely be blamed. Voting third party is perfectly reasonable, but you have no right to complain about the state of politics and deserve to be ridiculed if you make the conscious decision not to vote even though you are fully able to.
It’s the trolley problem. It is much more difficult for people to be an active part of genocide by voting for Biden than simply not voting and allowing a worse outcome to happen if Trump becomes president…
We should do whatever we can to keep people off of the tracks in the future. But that’s not mutually exclusive with pulling the lever right now, since the trolley is already heading towards people.
It’s an easy decision to make if you aren’t the one tied to the tracks. Palestinian Americans are losing their families and flipping that lever will neither bring them back nor make the situation better. Not only that, but flipping the lever without any real change of action from the DNC just means they can just trust their base to overlook genocide again and again in perpetuity as long as republicans remain the worse choice (which will be always).
Jill’s currently polling at 5%. If the Green Party could get 5%, we’d qualify for millions of dollars in federal grant money, which would go a long way towards helping us fight the corrupt two-party system.
Exactly, I demand better of him and I will probably vote for him. I really wonder though how someone that’s a Muslim or Palestinian can stomach voting for him. His policies around Israel are pretty much identical to what Trump would do which is a big deal for a lot of people. He’s basically saying “Forget that I let Israel murder and starve to death your loved ones, I’ve been pretty good when it comes to monopolies right?!?”.
I’ll vote for him because he’s the better of two options, however, he has blood on his hands and that may just lose him a second term.
The headline is misleading. Biden simply said “I hope a ceasefire happens one day”. Which is a FAR cry from “demanding a ceasefire now”. He isn’t doing enough because he hasn’t been saying things like “We are planning on withdrawing aid from Israel if they keep up this offensive”. Instead it’s “Well golly gee I hope Hamas returns all the hostages for a 2 week ceasefire and no troop withdrawals by Israel.”
But hey, at least he’s decided that he can say the word “ceasefire” Up until maybe a couple of weeks ago that was a forbidden word by the administration.
When Biden ran in 2020, this was the argument I heard from Biden supporters: sure, Biden may not be perfect, but we should support him anyway, and then, once he gets elected, we’ll hold his feet to the fire.
Yet now, when people try to hold his feet to the fire, they’re accused of supporting Trump. Funny how that works.
My argument is: Biden may not be perfect, but he’s a whole hell of a lot better than the guy that tried to start an insurrection and appointed a Supreme Court justice that got rid of Roe v. Wade. Holding his feet to the fire is a waste of time because the house always wins; the People will be the ones to bear the burden of any sort of loss for the Democrats. All I can do is hope that people will finally be pushed too far and revolt against the government, but that will be a whole hell of a lot harder if the 1st and 2nd Amendments are infringed on any more than they already are.
Imagine you were a wizard and could force everyone on Lemmy to vote for a single third-party candidate. Also assume every account on every instance of Lemmy is a US citizen capable of voting. Lemmy has about 421 thousand users. Even if each account on Lemmy could magically convince 50 other eligible voters to vote for the same independent candidate, that would only amount to about 21 million votes, or about 16.3% of all votes in the election going towards that candidate.
Voting in an independent party is nothing short of impossible in the US.
It’s impossible though. The whistleblower has to whistle to someone from the government. Corps like Boeing pay a lot to many people from the government. In case of Boeing they also pay with the taxpayers money that the government gave them. Which is funny because those whistleblowers likely payed for their own murder.
Yes, we have to respect the right of a non-state actor to put terrorists in charge and cancel all future elections so they can continue living in a rich culture of stoning infidels to death? No thanks.
I know this is way later than I or anyone whose been screaming for ceasefire wished for, but I’m so glad something has changed. I hope this is the just a start.
In all likelihood, Biden is starting to pay lip service to the call for a ceasefire as the people around him realize his support for Israel’s genocide may hurt his chances of reelection. I’m not holding my breath for him to actually do anything about it. Words are cheap.
He’s doing the thing where he calls a temporary pause a “ceasefire” with the only leverage getting handed over.,. So the genocidal ethnostate can continue the slaughter at its leasure.
The only leverage Hamas has is to keep being terrorists? No. Hamas can either surrender and give up or keep being bombed until they are gone. It is the only thing still killing people in Gaza at this point.
Not really. Israel didn’t build the terror tunnels under everyone’s houses and then tell everyone not to evacuate. Maybe your thinking of Hamas, and it’s regressive and religio-authoritarian genocidal violence?
And maybe you’ve run the numbers to realize that those “terrors tunnels” would cost too much to be real. It’s a good excuse to ethnically cleanse a region you have no right to.
You have zero understanding of cause and effect or you are looking at this conflict through a pinhole. Stop supporting and lapping up the propaganda of genocidal settler-colonialists like an useful idiot. Learn history and have some morals.
“Genocidal settler-colonialists” sounds like you’ve been lapping enough propoganda for the both of us.
I’m aware of the long history of two way violence. I’m aware that even if Israel stopped the violence now and forever, Hamas is still an ideology that exists as antithetical to democracy and peace. They’ll still be stoning people to death. They’ll still have zero elections. And whatever, that’s wildly popular in Gaza. But when they leave Gaza and start doing international terrorism, accepting money and weapons from Iran and North Korea, that’s not being very neighborly and I’m sorry but Hamas needs to go. They have no right to be terrorists. They can practice nok violent resistance if their lives are important to them. If not…
The first paper you linked to basically makes the argument and it’s not an apartheid system because Gazans are not citizens of Israel… never stopping for a moment to wonder how they ended up refugees in Gaza instead of citizens of Palestine…
Do you not understand that Israel stole land from Palestinians using law, using force, and using ethnic cleansing? Do you not understand that Gazans SHOULD be citizens and have full rights and tjat denying them this while also building a gisnt siege wall around a little strip is the apartheid part, right?
That paper sounds like it was written by a stinky slithering lying lawyer who thinks this “loophole” cancels human rights for Palestinians. It ignores how the West Bank is made to shrink under zones.
And also, Palestinian citizens of Israel do have it shit.
The second link you posted is a study by a Zionist think tank lobbyist called Robbie Sabel
Prof. Robbie Sabel is the former legal advisor to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Deputy Director General for Arms Control of the Ministry, and former Israeli counselor in Washington
Yes… totally unbiased and free of emotion!
Is any article you read not written by some propaganda arm of the Israeli government?
Both those ‘papers’ on apartheid don’t consider any of the overwhelming evidence brought forth by the Reports by three Major Human Rights Organizations, and completely ignore the International Law of the Crimes of Apartheid laid out by International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (Apartheid Convention) and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Rome Statute).
This “Lawfare” argument requires being unaware of the history of Zionism as Settler Colonialism, The History of Israeli Occupation, and the abhorrent material conditions Palestinians as subject to on a daily basis due to the Apartheid. It hinges on the premise of human shields. In bad faith of course, as it ignores all IDF use of Human shields and assumes all Hamas as a given despite any verified evidence. It’s a way for US State Department Propaganda to justify its military and international support of Israel’s ethnic cleansing campaign and genocide.
Okay I’m obviously not going to read all this and click all these links, but what the hell do you mean by this:
The only independent verification of Hamas using human Shields was in 2014.
Look at your television right now and you can see with your own eyes Hamas using entire cities as human shields.
Plenty of recent evidence of tunnels under cities and of Hamas directing people to ignore evacuating warnings.
How can you explain your double standard on this if it’s not anti-semitism?
I’ll start giving a shit what happens to Hamas when they reinstate elections, release all the hostages, and stop taking money from Iran and North Korea to kill Jews. Or maybe if they start following any international law: they can start by wearing uniforms and not purposefully targeting civilians, at a minimum. Until then, they are enemy combatants and not entitled to equal rights under the law.
And that’s another reason why it’s not apartheid, as cited by the authors of my first two links. If you want to say Israel is Apartheid, your argument is limited to its statutory laws that apply to Israeli citizens, not to non citizens; every country discriminates against non citizens and it’s not a war crime. But suddenly with Israel it’s a war crime? How do you explain your double standard on this if it’s not anti-semitism?
Children always make up a huge chunk of civilian casualties in war. Why is it any surprise it’s absurdly high when Hamas is using entire cities as human shields?
A lack of food, water, shelter and sanitation continues to put children’s lives at risk as they suffer under relentless airstrikes with no safe place to go, said UNICEF spokesperson James Elder, who recently returned from the enclave.
The UNICEF spokesperson explained that the “safe zones” were “anything but safe” because they had been designated unilaterally by Israel alone and lacked “sufficient resources for survival”: food, water, medicine, protection.
Mr. Elder added that more than 130,000 of children under two are not receiving “critical life-saving breastfeeding and age-appropriate complementary feeding” such as micronutrient supplementation.
Compared to previous Israeli assaults on Gaza, the current war — which Israel has named “Operation Iron Swords,” and which began in the wake of the Hamas-led assault on southern Israel on October 7 — has seen the army significantly expand its bombing of targets that are not distinctly military in nature. These include private residences as well as public buildings, infrastructure, and high-rise blocks, which sources say the army defines as “power targets” (“matarot otzem”).
The massive attacks on power targets and private residences came at the same time as the Israeli army, on Oct. 13, called on the 1.1 million residents of the northern Gaza Strip — most of them residing in Gaza City — to leave their homes and move to the south of the Strip. By that date, a record number of power targets had already been bombed, and more than 1,000 Palestinians had already been killed, including hundreds of children.
Although it is unprecedented for the Israeli army to attack more than 1,000 power targets in five days, the idea of causing mass devastation to civilian areas for strategic purposes was formulated in previous military operations in Gaza, honed by the so-called “Dahiya Doctrine” from the Second Lebanon War of 2006.
Not only has the current war seen Israel attack an unprecedented number of power targets, it has also seen the army abandon prior policies that aimed at avoiding harm to civilians. Whereas previously the army’s official procedure was that it was possible to attack power targets only after all civilians had been evacuated from them, testimonies from Palestinian residents in Gaza indicate that, since October 7, Israel has attacked high-rises with their residents still inside, or without having taken significant steps to evacuate them, leading to many civilian deaths.
Such attacks very often result in the killing of entire families, as experienced in previous offensives; according to an investigation by AP conducted after the 2014 war, about 89 percent of those killed in the aerial bombings of family homes were unarmed residents, and most of them were children and women.
Yeah the people in Gaza lie constantly about what happens. None of them are ever members of Hamas. Nobody ever saw anyone using tunnels. Nobody knows who is launching the rockets.
Yeah the unarmed families and the houses, it’s horrible. Unfortunately, digging tunnels under your house and using them to launch terror attacks for decades on end is as good as packing your family into the car and driving them right into a war zone. Who would do that? Hamas members and loyalists. They call it martyrdom. They literally stand on the roof of buildings after being warning of an incoming airstrike, trying to get a pension.
Palestinians have been terrorized for generations by Israel under occupation and apartheid. Armed resistance groups don’t pop into existence for no reason. You don’t understand the history or meaning of a Martyr in Palestine. Literally anyone who dies at the hands of the Israeli Occupying Force is considered a Martyr. You are being delusional and racist if you think Palestinian people including women and children want to die. They have hopes and dreams like anyone else, you’re doing dehumanizing rhetoric. Palestinians are being exterminated in Gaza every day, and people like you are defending it without a second guess.
Their hopes and dreams of putting terrorists in charge, ending all elections, killing all Jews, and stoning all infidels to death. Real cool stuff you’re defending!
“I hope for a ceasefire and I dream of a future where I can return to school much sooner,” said Maryam.
“My dream is to become a nurse, and I hope the war will end soon," said 8-year-old Salwa.
Eight-year-old Mohammed lost all his toys when his home was destroyed in an airstrike. “I wish for a ceasefire,” he said.
“I lost my house and my two brothers,” said Wafaa. “I want to return to our house, even though the chances are that we will never get back, and we will never be whole again, as everyone is losing their loved ones.”
“I want this war to reach an end,” said 14-year-old Ahmad. “I hate waiting in lines all day — water, bread, drinking water. My dream was to become a doctor but now I’m dreaming of staying alive.”
“I never imagined that I would be sitting at my school desk as a displaced boy," said 10-year-old Ahmad. "I used to love my school and my classes … I don’t know if I would still love my school again after all of this.”
Outside a Gaza City bakery, 10-year-old Kenan said, “I’ve been waiting in this endless line since 6 a.m. just to bring some bread home for the day. Sometimes, I don’t get back to my family until five or six hours later. I miss my school the most — my only dream now is to put an end to this war and for the world to send us bread.”
“The only thing I want to share is love to the entire world,” said 11-year-old Amal. "I want them to know and to understand that we are kids like any other kid on this earth.”
That was months ago. How many of these children do you think have died while you’ve been dehumanizing them and defending Israel?
Yeah. It’s honestly sad. It can be difficult to break through the propaganda if you don’t have a starting point, but to willfully ignore all these sources in favor of dehumanization…
I’m glad more people are failing to fall for it, the ethnic cleansing of Palestine can’t be ignored any longer
Don’t you see how killing 30,000 is not acceptable just because more died in a bigger genocide? Don’t you see how hypocritical it is to believe in “Never again” but fall short of applying it?
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It’s a national liberation struggle against a settler ethnostate with mandatory military service. Obviously the settlers stealing their land are valid targets.
Netanyahu won’t agree to a permanent ceasefire. The hope seems to be to get any sort of long pause then push to extend and extend it so it is de facto permanent (and hope Netanyahu gets kicked out of power somewhere in there).
The 9th circle in the Inferno was a frozen lake. Though I’d expect Weinstein and Epstein to end up on the ring dedicated to the lustful rather than down on the 9th with the traitors.
Was the situation around his suicide orchestrated to give him the best possible chance of killing himself? Maybe. Even that might be giving too much credit to the people who would have the motive to do so.
He was a guilty pedophile, he knew he was a guilty pedophile, and the easiest way out for him was by wrapping a prison bedsheet around his neck.
Give me a solution to his death simpler than he wanted to die, and the people guarding him weren’t very good at their jobs, and I’ll buy it.
Give me a solution to his death simpler than he wanted to die, and the people guarding him weren’t very good at their jobs, and I’ll buy it.
the fact that someone who isn’t supposed to be capable of committing suicide, manages to commit suicide. Is a pretty damn good argument as for why it’s not entirely up to them, especially in the scenario that they have no legal autonomy over themselves anymore.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that a billionaire running a pedo trafficking ring when left alone for about 23 seconds is going to immediately kill themselves.
Has Israel received any military aid since December? Last I heard they were facing a pause in weapon transfers from the US until they could confirm the weapons were being used in accordance with international law.
So far it’s passed the Senate, but is being refused a vote in the house. Republicans are attempting to pass an Israel only bill, but Biden has vowed to veto it.
There was a sale that Biden bypassed Congress on Dec 29th or 30th. It still takes time to deliver so probably they still received stuff in February but definitely January so within the last month or so for sure.
That was noted as it was above the billions in military aide given annually that are already budgeted. We can still give them that close to 4 billion in aide without announcing as it is already in the budget so yes, we are probably still in February and March giving them aide as it is in our budget (I don’t like it, but say our as I am a US citizens).
Or up the timeline. Biden is thinking this statement is enough to get him over the line. It’s not. He’s too slow. This call should have been made months ago. Cutting off arms shipments should be happening today.
I would disagree that this is not a pertinent question. Did Biden know Israel was going to use those weapons for war crimes? If yes he needs to see consequences. That in itself is a war crime. Y’all are too soft on your representatives.
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