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Linkerbaan , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza
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Calls? Did he call Netanyahu and threaten him to withhold weapons? We’ve heard this one before. Time to start showing results.

absentbird OP ,
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Linkerbaan ,
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Israel has two weeks to sign a letter that says “we won’t commit war crimes”? This is after the date israel said they are going to invade Rafah.

Furthermore israel has violated like 8 “red lines” Biden gave them and no consequences ever happened.

Israel didn’t even show up to the talks in Cairo today. Netanyahu isn’t feeling an ounce of pressure from Biden.

BeatTakeshi , (edited ) to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza
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Immediate but not permanent. Stop giving them bombs and ammo if you are sincere Joe. Oooooooh nooooes you’re not.

Also where does it say in the article that he calls for an immediate ceasefire besides the title ??It is all about dropping humanitarian aid, which in fact is to allow IDF continue the massacre. It is nowhere in other news outlets that he calls for a ceasefire. Also also also, I would expect he is the only one who could enforce it, rather than ask it. Nice distraction attempt. .

Anyway damage is done, good luck with Donut T fellow Americans. The not

ImFresh3x ,

They haven’t sent them either of those things since last year. Only aide for Gazans recently.

If you were sincere in caring for gazans you’d be aware that when you say good luck with trump, you’re saying good luck with him to Palestinians, who will definitely suffer much worse under him. He will encourage bibi to finish them off. He’s very vocal about this.

Ohhh nooooos you’re not

BeatTakeshi ,
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I am well aware of that thank you. But I am not able to show any satisfaction for Biden’s less than bare minimum action. It’s genocide we are talking about and his “call” for a ceasefire is a discussion with Italian PM that started with “we are trying to work out a deal that…”. Is that the best he can do?? Bibi’s gonna say fuck you again. I really don’t see where the enthusiasm for that “news” comes from

Linkerbaan ,
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Biden has been trying his very best this year to give israel 15 Billion in weapons as fast as possible.

Trump can’t do much worse than this Nazi style Genocide. If there’s still Palestinians left to Genocide after November that is.

PlexSheep ,
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There is always worse

Linkerbaan ,
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If Biden doesn’t want worse he’ll have to do better.

cecinestpasunbot ,

Exactly how is a slow genocide any better than a quick one?

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  • BeatTakeshi ,
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    Because they will never get rid of Hamas, because maimed kids that lost their families are not hamas, but will be in 15 years. Because diplomacy towards a two state solution has more chances of bringing back the hostages. IDF are just killing them slowly as casualties right now

    FrostKing , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    It’s important to note that we can essentially do this because we’re providing aid to Israel. In my mind it’s sort of the best of a horrible situation, but at least with us aiding them, we can insist on certain conditions. Rare Biden W, in my mind.

    samsepi0l ,

    They need to make the aid conditional. It won’t do much immediately but it is an essential step to stopping the genocide that is currently happening.

    dumpsterlid ,

    The engine of this genocide would have ground to halt before tens of thousands of innocent people were doomed to death if Biden hadn’t specifically blocked other UN powers from forming a coalition with overwhelming international leverage to force Israel to stop slaughtering Palestinians.

    This isn’t a “glad Biden is in the room to temper a bunch of insane, violent people” situation, Biden specifically allowed this entire situation to happen more than any other international figure outside of Israel.

    Biden has an immense amount of blood on his hands.

    Maggoty ,

    Except Netanyahu already told him to go piss in a pot on any deal.

    blazeknave , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

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  • go_go_gadget ,

    How about you shut the fuck up and let us speak so we can whip a piece of shit politician into shape? Your views are well represented all over the media. Everybody knows what you think and that you will be voting for Biden. Great. Now let the people who on the fence have the floor so Biden can get their votes.

    UristMcHolland ,

    On the fence? Seriously?

    Zehzin ,
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    The headline I want isn’t asking nicely for a ceasefire, it’s complete disoccupation and recognizing the sovereignity of the Palestinian state.

    You know, what people have been saying should happen for 60 years.

    jordanlund ,
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    This is your 10th removed comment in less than 24 hours. Go outside and take a walk.

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    Pistcow , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    Wah, slow down there Skippy. Let’s give this some time to see it can resolve organically.

    /S

    tal , to news in Second Boeing whistleblower dies in less than two months
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    If the implication here is that Boeing is assassinating people, I think that that’s pretty ridiculous.

    wandermind ,

    I mean.

    One might be a coincidence.

    Two out of two? Considering how few high profile whistleblowers there are, that is much more unlikely to be due to random chance, statistically speaking.

    Similar to how it’s not impossible that someone might fall out of a window and die.

    But if in a certain country, important people who have crossed the leadership keep falling out of windows, … well.

    ColeSloth ,

    That all depends on how many whistle-blower there currently are, I suppose. If there’s currently been only less than 10, is really, really, suspicious and unlikely two would die within even a year. If there’s 500? Suspicious, but not outlandish.

    LaLuzDelSol ,

    Was this guy high profile? I’d never heard of him. And he was in the hospital for 2 weeks before dying and nobody seemed to care then. When I read the headline, I was extremely suspicious but the cause of death is just completely incompatible with a hit job.

    HikingVet ,

    You’re kidding right? Two whistle-blowers just don’t die this quickly.

    odium ,

    Not just one, but two whistleblowers in two months. And one of them said that if he dies soon, it would be a Boeing assassination a few days before he died.

    alester82 ,

    Someone claiming to be a family friend said that’s what he said, after-the-fact. That part of the whole first whistleblower story is far from rock-solid.

    Zipitydew ,

    John was also in the process of deposition for an appeal to a case he already lost in 2019. If Boeing wanted to kill him they would have before the 2019 trial.

    And by the time he complained in 2017, both 787 and 737 Max that he was spilling details on had been flying for years. The FAA investigated and found a decent chunk of the issues had already been addressed. So it wasn’t even timely information by the time John spoke up.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    and if i were a large multinational company trying to kill someone, i would probably do it at the most inconvenient point possible, because that would be murder, and murder would be illegal. But that’s just me.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    well, to be clear, he said if he committed suicide, that he didn’t commit suicide. Now i dont know much about suicide because i haven’t done it. But if i were to do it, and i was being sued by a large company, i would probably say that they did it to me anyway.

    Mostly just because it would be funny, but also because it be partially true, given what probably led up to the suicide itself.

    Coreidan ,

    You live in denial

    Fixbeat ,

    It is ridiculous, but here we are, two people dead.

    LaLuzDelSol ,

    So they… gave him a MRSA lung infection without him noticing? I have never once heard of attempted murder in that way.

    Did you read the article? My first thought on reading the headline was “this is extremely suspicious” and most people probably stopped there and went straight to the comment section. But reading the article I see no sign that this was murder.

    NatakuNox ,
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    If you think a company that knowingly put 10s of thousands of people in danger with faulty planes resulting in over 300 deaths, wouldn’t kill two people for exposing said crimes? I have a bridge to nowhere to sale you.

    RunningInRVA ,

    Does anybody actually know how the second person died? It was from an hospital acquired MRSA infection. I think it’s insane if people think Boeing somehow managed that to happen.

    homesweethomeMrL ,

    Are you saying it couldn’t be done?

    LaLuzDelSol ,

    How WOULD you give someone a MRSA infection of the lungs? Inject it into their bloodstream? Aerosolize liquid with the bacteria in it and then discretely waft it towards them in a public place maybe? That’s pretty insane though. The risk to reward just isn’t there. And besides, what’s the point of killing a whistle-blower who’s already blown their whistle, except to “send a message” I guess? And the guy died after being hospitalized for 2 weeks so if he had anything left to say he could still have done it. It’s Boeing. It’s an aerospace company with shitty, greedy executives. It’s not the freaking KGB.

    Zipitydew ,

    Welcome to Lemmy. Lots of terminally online idiots here. I was hoping this place would be like old Reddit. Turns out it’s just as bad as current Reddit without as many bots.

    tal ,
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    Well, it depends on the Threadiverse community, as it did the subreddit. I mean, /r/conspiracy probably would buy into an assassination campaign conspiracy theory, but the subreddits I subscribed to on Reddit wouldn’t.

    LaLuzDelSol ,

    There’s some truth to that… scrolling the Lemmyverse front page is kinda like scrolling YouTube while not signed into an account- its amazing how dumb most of YT is. It’s honestly a testament to Lemmy being a solid community that it’s even palatable to just consume it unfiltered, although there are still some garbage takes.

    feedum_sneedson ,

    It’s worse than Reddit, but the app is better.

    mlg , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza
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    mmm “insist”, really a strong word that will surely bring a change.

    inb4 the air drop supplies get bombed too since it’ll light up more civilians for Israel to shoot at.

    vin , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza
    hark , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza
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    If only the president of the united states had power to do something about this!!!

    SuddenDownpour ,

    Plenty of countries would have been capable of forcing themselves into the situation, if only they weren’t legitimately afraid of Israel retaliating and the US backing them in their retaliation.

    Sam_Bass , to news in Second Boeing whistleblower dies in less than two months

    Must be something in the water

    recapitated , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    Talk isn’t news.

    pyre , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    wow don’t be rushing Biden! I’m sure there are still some munitions you have provided Israel that hasn’t been used on children yet!

    Draedron , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    Insisting so hard he will send more weapons to israel?

    mwguy , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    Egypt and Qatar promised Israel that if it sent a delegation to Doha this week for talks on the humanitarian aspects of the proposed deal, they would bring answers from Hamas on which hostages are still alive and put pressure on the group to be flexible on the number of Palestinians prisoners it demands to be released as part of any agreement.

    From an article that came out today. Hamas won’t even attempt to confirm the hostages it has.

    Haha , to world in Biden calls for 'immediate ceasefire' in Gaza

    Dont get hopes up, its a a stunt for reelection

    lolcatnip ,

    Almost everything any politician does is because they think it will help them get reelected. That doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do.

    Haha ,

    That just means to me that they dont really care about what people wants until they need people. Thats very hypocritical honestly.

    nurple ,
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    Welcome to politics.

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