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FlickeringScreens , (edited ) to linuxmemes in What's going on y'all?

I love @Iinux (iinux) on twitter.

nexussapphire ,

It’s summer, I’ll warm myself by that garbage fire in the winter.

GBU_28 , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit wants to put their children in a private trust.

Thusly

EleventhHour , (edited ) to insanepeoplefacebook in I think this is the craziest sovcit so far because he wants the pope to sign whatever this is.
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

he struck his last name from his birth certificate, but still left it (or some form of it) written in his letter to the Bishop of Rome at the top in the “from” line.

dumbass.

edit: also, i can’t exactly determine what this person is hoping to accomplish here (other than to obtain the signature of the Bishop of Rome). What does he believe that his signature will prove, exactly? That he is, in fact, alive? And how will this be achieved, precisely? also, in what way will it establish him as “a foreign entity” and/or “not a Government citizen”?

Zron ,

A lot of sovcits believe that they are secretly owners of massive amounts of land and gold for one reason or another(reparations, obscure and outdated contracts with Native American tribes, schizophrenia, etc)

They believe that being a citizen of their country means that their parents accidentally waved their right to these resources when they were born, and if they simply separate themselves from citizenship, then the government will be forced to give them the land and money.

rottingleaf ,

There’s a dangerous closeness of this to what’s written in constitutional laws of many states, though, if they are understood literally.

I’ve been called a sovereign citizen for pointing out that after a stolen election a government is illegitimate, and that a law adopted in violation of constitutional law is not a law, and that being party to a contract requires consent, and so on. And that rights are not given by laws. Nobody can give you a right or take it away from you.

By “dangerous” I mean that you should explain to sovcits, reichsbuergers, citizens of USSR and such that what they believe in is not supported by existing mechanisms. Simply that. Their ideas are usually not any worse than what we have in really functioning laws, but they don’t have the power to make them real.

Would you be a sovcit for arguing for equal rights in the 50’s? Just trying an American example. Many people would consider you just as crazy.

In USSR of 60’s and 70’s dissidents were forcibly put into asylums, because “the society” (as in people having power in it) wanted them to be considered crazy. Where are the smug bastards who were doing that now? Oh, shit, they are still the elites in ex-Soviet states. By the way, Estonia’s former PM Kaja Kallas, who likes to publicly lament over USSR taking over Baltics, is from such a family.

You shouldn’t argue with the ethical part, because that’d be arguing in favor of “might makes right”.

I think people who consider something morally right and are ready to oppose the whole world over it deserve utmost respect.

If you are finding yourself on the opposite side of someone much weaker than you and not threatening you, think again if you should be there.

I hope this wasn’t too much text, at least better comprehensible that what’s on the photo.

Zron ,

Proponents for equal rights in the 50s didn’t do arcane legal rituals like putting stamps at a 45 degree angle and signing shit in blood.

Sovcit ideas have no basis in reality. They aren’t arguing that black people are in fact people, they are arguing that they deserve vast sums of money or to be debt free because of made up fairytales about old law books and contracts between companies and the government.

rottingleaf ,

Sovcit ideas have no basis in reality. They aren’t arguing that black people are in fact people, they are arguing that they deserve vast sums of money or to be debt free because of made up fairytales about old law books and contracts between companies and the government.

OK, didn’t know this part.

I also haven’t really met a reichsbuerger or a “citizen of USSR”, so can’t speak about them either.

It still seems that there are some for whom it’s about justice and not about magic.

Zron ,

Oh they all think they’ve suffered some injustice

Most sovcits have issues with not paying child support. They want to not pay, which is how they get started down this rabbit hole and how they end up with so much debt. They think child support or whatever debt they have is an unfair burden, and try to seek justice for themselves by getting the debt erased.

Except unlike a normal person who would work overtime to pay or file for bankruptcy, they start citing law books from the 1850s and start referring to themselves as the person John Doe not the legal entity John Doe, and that the person John Doe doesn’t have any debts for whatever bullshit reason they can think of. That’s why they sign stuff in red, because they think black ink is only for corporations, and red ink is for people.

They think they’re seeking justice for themselves, except they want all of the benefits of being a citizen without any of the responsibility like paying taxes or debts.

rottingleaf ,

That is familiar, but around me such people are Marxist.

pelletbucket , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit went to the bank.

can we trick them all into going the same place

Therealgoodjanet , to insanepeoplefacebook in I think this is the craziest sovcit so far because he wants the pope to sign whatever this is.

Damnit, the pope holds all birth certificates? I’m such an idiot, how did I not know?

There must have a massive archive in the Vatican, holding the birth certificates of 8bil people.

Etterra ,

They’re actually is a archive in the Vatican, but it’s full of all of their dirty laundry and all of the dirt that they’ve scraped together on world leaders for like 1,500 years. As I understand it there’s actually stuff that could start wars down there.

Honytawk ,

Yeah, the pope keeps all of them in a big book that also says if you have been naughty or nice.

Geobloke ,

Hold on. This changes everything. You mean the pope works for Santa? Or the saint’s Clause? I smell a loophole

TheFriar ,

Wonder who’s keeping track with all the new ones coming in every few seconds and all the people dying every few seconds. Must be one busy post office in there.

bappity , to aboringdystopia in Never believe the hype.
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

community notes is the BEST thing that Twitter could have ever done

fluxion ,

Which means Elon will find some way to render them useless soon

thesporkeffect ,

Ooohh, he’s tryin’

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

He doesn’t need to render it useless, he just needs to delete community notes applied to his own tweets, which he does.

Buddahriffic ,

Someone who still cares to use Twitter should write a third party add-on that allows community notes outside of elon’s control.

independantiste ,
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I would argue it is one of the best features of any social media to date

NegativeLookBehind , to linuxmemes in What's going on y'all?
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Just another boring day on Linux huh

kionite231 ,

Time to go to BSD!!

jaybone ,

Someone should create a distro called FreeBSOD

veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

FreeOfBSOD

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

You can get notified when they make progress on *BSD Derivatives

Guess you chose the right platform to run to,

apfelwoiSchoppen , to lemmyshitpost in Bet y'all are very familiar with this
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

Post drivers, and I hated using them to make fencing.

Agrivar ,

Huh. I spent years driving posts with a sledgehammer! When I discovered the existence of post drivers I was overjoyed and bought one immediately.

SchmidtGenetics ,

They even have handheld gas powered ones too now.

Linky

FlyingSquid , to insanepeoplefacebook in I think this is the craziest sovcit so far because he wants the pope to sign whatever this is.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I am sad that this person has terrible penmanship but they still have nicer penmanship than me.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Me too. I just got some pens at work I actually like and I am hoarding them all for myself. I put them in my work bag so they’re just mine. They improve my handwriting but not much.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My handwriting has been terrible my whole life, even when I used to write in notebooks all the time. It doesn’t help that I’m left-handed and our alphabet is designed for right-handed people.

activ8r ,

I was gonna say it looks like a child wrote it, but I’m honestly not sure I’d do any better 😄

Gradually_Adjusting , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit went to the bank.
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

At least the Discordians were harmless.

Well, mostly. Some are dire.

This is just embarrassing.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Harmless until they start rolling out golden apples. :)

elbucho , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit went to the bank.
@elbucho@lemmy.world avatar

Huh. Call me provincial, but I had no idea that sovereign citizens existed outside of America. The idea of a Cypriot sovcit never occurred to me.

Dudewitbow ,

in general, things do exist out of the U.S, its just people in the U.S do it more publicly. Its like racism, and how some people think U.S is the most racist due to media and social media, its actually very far from that on the general scale of things when compared to other countries.

dellish ,

In Australia I knew I guy who was a SovCit and he would do stupid things like quote the bill of rights. We’d say “what bill of rights?” Australia doesn’t have one. All his info came from the US and he just followed it with realising none of it was relevant in a different country.

edgemaster72 ,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair pretty much all the US sovcit stuff isn’t relevant or applicable in the US either

stinerman , (edited )
@stinerman@midwest.social avatar

True. But things like the UCC are real laws. Sovcits just hilariously misinterpret them. There is no such law in other countries. Plus sovcit stuff is based on common law. It makes even less sense in civil law jurisdictions.

odium ,

I did expect Australian and British sovcits, but didn’t expect Greek ones.

Klear ,

I didn’t expect Spanish SovCits…

dellish ,

No-one expects The Spanish SovCit!

dellish ,

I don’t know man. Idiots are everywhere.

saltesc ,

Were they one of the lost idiots waving a Trump flag during the Victoria lockdown protests? I still cringe to this day.

dellish ,

Fortunately I haven’t bothered keeping up with him for many years, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he was doing that. And protesting vaccinations too probably.

carl_dungeon ,

None of it is relevant in the USA either, it’s all bullshit.

angstylittlecatboy ,

There is a similar movement to SovCits that is at least properly adapted to other countries (specifically the Commonwealth and Ireland’s) laws called “Freeman on the Land.”

floofloof ,

We have people in Canada who demand their first amendment rights too. And they put Trump stickers on their trucks. These people are not the smartest.

Hikermick ,

It’s nice to know America doesn’t have ALL the idiots

Tar_alcaran ,

We call them “autonomous” in the Netherlands, and Germany has “imperial citizens”.

Everywhere has its own flavour of these morons thanks to the Internet. And they often literally copy the talking points, and occasionally even laws.

angelmountain ,

Pretty sure they’re called “wappies” in the Netherlands

Tar_alcaran ,

Well, Autonomen are a flavour of Wappies :P

hanrahan ,
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BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

They have been identified in 26 countries.

pyre ,

the internet was a mistake

thesporkeffect ,

It is effectively a memetic virus, and there’s no SCP foundation to implement quarantine procedures…

Raxiel ,

We have a few so-called sovereign citizens in the UK.

And ONE actual sovereign citizen.

Swedneck ,
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that would of course be count Binface, who is a space alien and thus obviously is only subject to any human law in so far as that he chooses to go along with it.

StarlightDust ,

The anti-vax conspiracy crowd in Britain is heavily SovCit. They seem to think the magna Carta means they can be selfish arseholes

FlyingSquid , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit went to the bank.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Are they asking a trick question?

Facebones , to memes in lets push updates on a Friday, surely nothing could go wrong

Ironically it was more of a hassle than y2k ended up being lol

JoShmoe , to lemmyshitpost in It just does.

Perfect for deep frying! You will not regret eating this much deep-fried peanut butter.

MrJameGumb , to insanepeoplefacebook in The Republic of Cyprus is fed up with this sovcit.
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Does he live in Cyprus? Can I send all my debts to them too? Lol

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

He does not, that’s the hilarious part.

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

It seems no one made the people of Cyprus aware that they’re on the hook for the outstanding debts of every idiot in the world lol imagine their surprise 😂

FlyingSquid ,
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More importantly, did he wad up that letter and stick it in his shoe before taking a picture of it or something?

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